[bolger] Re: Brick Sail Question
>Look in Bolger2>Files>Fast Brick.I did find it. Yes, the individual file links are a pain.
>I see now that the flags for individual files are not constant for
>Yahoo. Sorry.
That bal lug should have a higher peak.
Craig O'Donnell
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Look in Bolger2>Files>Fast Brick.
I see now that the flags for individual files are not constant for Yahoo. Sorry.
Cf. What it was yesterday...
http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cGSCP5OEvwx89YLwssbFvDNSgGB-0Ual45KGNAn_faF-L5upsWRNp6jocTwhy8pH5-gbpchqB6px-HdKkeHHEV3qSELffDNaUbjyog/Fast%20Brick/FastBrick.jpg
What it is today...
http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MA2DP9M_eBvTd-aSgP17jqLdA6Q6TF2F2RoJxz0_XyGII1HG4lasP298U7qIm9-HapMFsV-0eq5HhGLIztLwPbTLxonGi65QatSKtg/Fast%20Brick/FastBrick.jpg
Mark
craig o'donnell wrote:
I see now that the flags for individual files are not constant for Yahoo. Sorry.
Cf. What it was yesterday...
http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cGSCP5OEvwx89YLwssbFvDNSgGB-0Ual45KGNAn_faF-L5upsWRNp6jocTwhy8pH5-gbpchqB6px-HdKkeHHEV3qSELffDNaUbjyog/Fast%20Brick/FastBrick.jpg
What it is today...
http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MA2DP9M_eBvTd-aSgP17jqLdA6Q6TF2F2RoJxz0_XyGII1HG4lasP298U7qIm9-HapMFsV-0eq5HhGLIztLwPbTLxonGi65QatSKtg/Fast%20Brick/FastBrick.jpg
Mark
craig o'donnell wrote:
> >Or by Tiny:
> >http://tinyurl.com/pzmx
>
> What folder in which Bolger group? These ain't working for me.
>I was already planning to mount the mast in the center of the boatWell, mast location has nothin to do with floating... for that
>about 1'back from the front. Having spent a less than enjoyable
>hour in the middle of the lake with my capsized nymph, no boat gets
>built without floatation. Front box 4'x 1' and rear floatation box
>1.5' x 4'. Still leaves lots of room and should be able to self
>rescue.
matter, put one of those bullet-shaped foam pot floats on the
masthead. Looks weird but a little floatation on the masthead goes a
long way.
>Do you have a link for the cheap pages?Just take a look at the SIG below my name.
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I was already planning to mount the mast in the center of the boat
about 1'back from the front. Having spent a less than enjoyable
hour in the middle of the lake with my capsized nymph, no boat gets
built without floatation. Front box 4'x 1' and rear floatation box
1.5' x 4'. Still leaves lots of room and should be able to self
rescue.
Do you have a link for the cheap pages?
Thanks,
Doug
about 1'back from the front. Having spent a less than enjoyable
hour in the middle of the lake with my capsized nymph, no boat gets
built without floatation. Front box 4'x 1' and rear floatation box
1.5' x 4'. Still leaves lots of room and should be able to self
rescue.
Do you have a link for the cheap pages?
Thanks,
Doug
>controllable
> Hmmm. A balanced lug oughta work well and will be more
> than a standing lug (trust me, been there). According to TomColvin,
> when figuring the center of effort you can discount the area aheadof
> the mast. You may need to rake the mast forward or back to bringthe
> new CE in line with the CE of the "as-designed" sail. (JimMichalak's
> site has a case study of this using his Birdwatcher as an example,that
> going from leg-of-mutton to lug).
>
> I doubt that there's any issue with the mast off centerline.
>
> See also the Cheap Pages for the "Gunter Sprit" rig that Conor
> O'Brien touted back in the 1930s-40s for small boats. He claimed
> its boomless nature was a great advantage.Junks,
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> American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
> Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
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>
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>
>Or by Tiny:
>http://tinyurl.com/pzmx
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>I'm building a Brick (two actually) and I want to change the sailHmmm. A balanced lug oughta work well and will be more controllable
>plan to get away from a 16' mast. I'm thinking of using a 4 sided
>sprit or maybe a standing lug sail. I've heard a couple of comments
>from people who think that the designed 59 sf sail may be a little
>light. Anybody have any thoughts or experience they can relate?
>
>Thanks
>
>Doug
than a standing lug (trust me, been there). According to Tom Colvin,
when figuring the center of effort you can discount the area ahead of
the mast. You may need to rake the mast forward or back to bring the
new CE in line with the CE of the "as-designed" sail. (Jim Michalak's
site has a case study of this using his Birdwatcher as an example,
going from leg-of-mutton to lug).
I doubt that there's any issue with the mast off centerline.
See also the Cheap Pages for the "Gunter Sprit" rig that Conor
O'Brien touted back in the 1930s-40s for small boats. He claimed that
its boomless nature was a great advantage.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www2.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
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American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
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I haven't sailed mine yet, but am considering this balanced lug rig from the newest
version of the Brick.
http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cGSCP5OEvwx89YLwssbFvDNSgGB-0Ual45KGNAn_faF-L5upsWRNp6jocTwhy8pH5-gbpchqB6px-HdKkeHHEV3qSELffDNaUbjyog/Fast%20Brick/FastBrick.jpg
Or by Tiny:
http://tinyurl.com/pzmx
Since it's reefable, no harm using the handsome, taller outline with the not quite 12' mast.
Mark
ibelucky2002 wrote:
version of the Brick.
http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cGSCP5OEvwx89YLwssbFvDNSgGB-0Ual45KGNAn_faF-L5upsWRNp6jocTwhy8pH5-gbpchqB6px-HdKkeHHEV3qSELffDNaUbjyog/Fast%20Brick/FastBrick.jpg
Or by Tiny:
http://tinyurl.com/pzmx
Since it's reefable, no harm using the handsome, taller outline with the not quite 12' mast.
Mark
ibelucky2002 wrote:
>
> I'm building a Brick (two actually) and I want to change the sail
> plan to get away from a 16' mast. I'm thinking of using a 4 sided
> sprit or maybe a standing lug sail. I've heard a couple of comments
> from people who think that the designed 59 sf sail may be a little
> light. Anybody have any thoughts or experience they can relate?
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug
"...The boomless spritsail from the Cartopper might be an option..."
although PCB did not have much good to say about it, giving the short mast
as its only merit. Perhaps with a sprit boom as well as the peak sprit?
Still doesn't offer the person at the helm much of a view to leeward.
If an eleven foot spar is acceptable, why not rig the leg of mutton as a
Solent lug? The yard can be very light - just a length of 'closet pole'.
cheers
Derek
although PCB did not have much good to say about it, giving the short mast
as its only merit. Perhaps with a sprit boom as well as the peak sprit?
Still doesn't offer the person at the helm much of a view to leeward.
If an eleven foot spar is acceptable, why not rig the leg of mutton as a
Solent lug? The yard can be very light - just a length of 'closet pole'.
cheers
Derek
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "ibelucky2002" <daysatnight@h...> wrote:
you'd need to either step it on the center line or add a boom.
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Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> I'm building a Brick (two actually) and I want to change the sailThe boomless spritsail from the Cartopper might be an option, but
> plan to get away from a 16' mast. I'm thinking of using a 4 sided
> sprit or maybe a standing lug sail.
you'd need to either step it on the center line or add a boom.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
I'm building a Brick (two actually) and I want to change the sail
plan to get away from a 16' mast. I'm thinking of using a 4 sided
sprit or maybe a standing lug sail. I've heard a couple of comments
from people who think that the designed 59 sf sail may be a little
light. Anybody have any thoughts or experience they can relate?
Thanks
Doug
plan to get away from a 16' mast. I'm thinking of using a 4 sided
sprit or maybe a standing lug sail. I've heard a couple of comments
from people who think that the designed 59 sf sail may be a little
light. Anybody have any thoughts or experience they can relate?
Thanks
Doug