Re: [bolger] Re: Fast Brick

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:17 AM, bucentaurus<motaro76@...>wrote:

Hallo! I have a big interest about Fast Brick. Can you tell me the purpose of its most significant part - rostrum. IMHO rostrum is used to break head-sea.

When Phil Bolger was a young man, serving in the army of occupation of Japan after World War II, he came across the yamato-gata boats of Tokyo Bay, which solved the problem of providing greater seaworthiness to a flat bottomed boat by adding a rostrum, or cutwater as it is more commonly known, to the front of the boat. Bolger wrote a description of these boats, the first article he ever had published, for The Rudder magazine in 1948.This article was reprinted in a Bolger retrospective in the July-August, 2008 issue of the magazine Watercraft. (See:http://www.watercraft.co.uk/backs.htm)

For those of you unfamiliar with the term "rostrum," it is the Latin word for "beak," the plural form of which, "rostra," came to refer to the speakers platform in the ancient Roman Forum, which had the ramming beaks of enemy warships mounted on its front.  Since then, rostra has come to mean a speaker's platform.

Since you have 1.5 x 1.5 meter plywood as standard, you may want to look into Bolger's Design #583 Power Yawl. (See:http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlboat.gif) It is 3.5 meters long by 1.5 meters wide of 12 mm. and 6 mm. plywood; has a flat bottom with a rostrum which extends underneath the bottom as a shallow box keel; and is a heavy duty boat designed to be unsinkable and carry 450 kg. and be able to be used as a tugboat to push or tow much heavier boats around. Bolger wrote about it in Messing About in Boats, Volume 9, Number 15.

Fred

>
> --- Mark wrote:
> > The cutwater and full draft stern
> > are the main things.
>
> The Fast Brick is intended to be
> a life boat, and it also has 2"
> Styrofoam sandwiched on the hull
> to give it great floatation.
>
> Also, I recall there are chambers
> to stow survival gear to be at
> the constant ready, for quick
> get-a-way. The spars and sail
> are designed to stow easily on
> board too.
>

>
> Does anyone recall what issue of MAIB fast brick was in? --FrankB

> The cutwater and full draft stern
> are the main things.

>
> Thanks Mark. What's different with this version? It's not any longer is
> it? --FrankB

> Dreams are true.
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Fast%20Brick/

> > you now have your a last chance to download the original
> from the filessection under Health:health1&health2 in the
> freeboatexchange Group I believe they have an open
> membership,and sure love a good joke

> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "ben_azo" <ben_azo@h...>

> >> > With marginal equipment,never expect to much on the

> > > you now have your a last chance to download the original
> > from the filessection under Health:health1&health2 in the
> > freeboatexchange Group I believe they have an open
> > membership,and sure love a good joke
>
>
> Ben,
> Your tiny urls still ain't workin'........
>
> Peter

>> > With marginal equipment,never expect to much on the other
> > hand you could have a peak athttp://tinyurl.com/deleted
> > you now have your a last chance to download the original
> from the filessection under Health:health1&health2 in the
> freeboatexchange Group I believe they have an open
> membership,and sure love a good joke

> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart"
> <pvanderw@o...> wrote:
> >
> > I sculled my Cynthia J. catboat a couple of times using an
> oarlock on
> > the transom and a hardware-store oar. I found it barely
> workable.
> > The catboat has a lot of windage. In general, it worked out
> better
> > for one person to paddle and another to steer.
> >
> > Yes, I know, an oar does not a yuloh make.
> >
> > Moral: don't expect it to work with marginal equipment. This
> was
> > Bolger's experience with Swallow, too.
> >
> > Peter
> With marginal equipment,never expect to much on the other
> hand you could have a peak athttp://tinyurl.com/deleted
> you now have your a last chance to download the original

>
> I sculled my Cynthia J. catboat a couple of times using an

> the transom and a hardware-store oar. I found it barely

> The catboat has a lot of windage. In general, it worked out

> for one person to paddle and another to steer.
>
> Yes, I know, an oar does not a yuloh make.
>
> Moral: don't expect it to work with marginal equipment. This

> Bolger's experience with Swallow, too.
>
> Peter

>
> Does anyobody know how much motor the 12' version of fast brick can
> take?
>
> I just picked up an old 18 HP motor at a garage sale and and don't
> know what to do with it.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
[snip]
> Used outboard motors, go figure...sometimes
> it seems that they sell for more $$$ 'alone'.
>
> ...versus, they often seem cheaper when sold as
> part of a junk boat/trailer/outboard combo!
>
> Burn the boat, sell the trailer, keep the outboard.

NO NO NO, put the boat in the yard and plant some flowers in it keep
the trailer for the boat you are going to build and overhull the motor
so you can win the Hydroplane race.

Corbin
Draco the Red
Captain of the Small boats
Owner/builder Auray Brick

>craig o'donnell wrote:
>>
>> Ah, the Fastbrick rig is not going to be any fun. That's a
>> running-reaaching survival rig.
>
>Can you tell, please, how it's different from a normal balanced lug?
>Doesn't look much
>different to my untrained eye.
>Thanks,
>Mark

> > Does anyobody know how much motor the
> > 12' version of fast brick can
> > take?
> >
> > I just picked up an old 18 HP motor

----- Original Message -----
From: "billfye" <fye2k@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: [bolger] Fast Brick


> Does anyobody know how much motor the 12' version of fast brick can
> take?
>
> I just picked up an old 18 HP motor at a garage sale and and don't
> know what to do with it.
>
>
>
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On 8 Oct 2003 at 17:02, billfye wrote:

> Does anyobody know how much motor the 12' version of fast brick can
> take?
>
> I just picked up an old 18 HP motor at a garage sale and and don't
> know what to do with it.
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

>
> Ah, the Fastbrick rig is not going to be any fun. That's a
> running-reaaching survival rig.

> I don't know about yulohs, but two of us did paddle
> a 34' sloop out of
> Belmont Harbor (Chicago) using the oars from the
> dinghy. You just keep
> throwing water aft and eventually the harbor mouth
> gets closer.
>
> I guess the question is "What kind of weather do you
> want to handle?" We
> had a dead flat calm.
>
> Roger
>derbyrm@...
>http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GarthAB" <garth@...>
>
> > Anyone with experience using yulohs, please tell
> us about it. How big
> > a boat can you propel using one? Could a yuloh
> replace an outboard
> > for low-speed auxiliary power on, say, a 31'
> sailboat? I harbor a
> > secret wish to go motorless on my Cormorant, but I
> don't want to
> > place my family in peril.
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "GarthAB" <garth@...>

> Anyone with experience using yulohs, please tell us about it. How big
> a boat can you propel using one? Could a yuloh replace an outboard
> for low-speed auxiliary power on, say, a 31' sailboat? I harbor a
> secret wish to go motorless on my Cormorant, but I don't want to
> place my family in peril.