New member

Hi friends!

I'm new member, very honored by Mr. Gregg invitation
Please, take a look at Bantha, my contribution to the home building community
Cathy -

Those tiny trailers are available by mail order from places like
Northern Tool or Harbor Freight. They're about $100. I use one to move
my rubber ducky dinghy from the ramp to the house and to store it in the
winter. It works great. I made a long boom out of a cut-down 4 x 4.

- Peter M
Orcas Island

ladycathyofwales wrote:
> Wow, that's a small trailer.
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Try this trailer, I pack two Gull dories on mine after putting on an
extended tongue. You could stand it up against the wall.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_7262_7262

HJ

ladycathyofwales wrote:
> Bruce Hallman wrote:
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>> The Tortoise is ideal, I cannot think of a better choice for your
>> needs. I have built and owned two of them, with the second built
>> while paying special attention to keeping it light weight.
>> Wanting to "toss" any boat on top of a car is a tough task, and
>> keeping it small and light weight are essential.
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> I've just run across the link to Andrew Linn's Teal and trailer:
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>http://www.andrewlinn.com/080715_teal/01ready.jpg
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> Wow, that's a small trailer. If I could get something as small as
> that, and if the long metal boom were removable, I could push that
> trailer into a corner of the garage when not in use.
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> The reason I ruled out a trailer is lack of space to park it in the
> garage, and not being allowed to park it outside. But if it fit in a
> *corner* of the garage instead of taking up most of it...
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> Thoughts? I admit I don't feel competent to *build* a trailer, which
> is part of the issue.
>
> Cathy
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Bruce Hallman wrote:
> The Tortoise is ideal, I cannot think of a better choice for your
> needs. I have built and owned two of them, with the second built
> while paying special attention to keeping it light weight.
> Wanting to "toss" any boat on top of a car is a tough task, and
> keeping it small and light weight are essential.

I've just run across the link to Andrew Linn's Teal and trailer:

http://www.andrewlinn.com/080715_teal/01ready.jpg

Wow, that's a small trailer. If I could get something as small as
that, and if the long metal boom were removable, I could push that
trailer into a corner of the garage when not in use.

The reason I ruled out a trailer is lack of space to park it in the
garage, and not being allowed to park it outside. But if it fit in a
*corner* of the garage instead of taking up most of it...

Thoughts? I admit I don't feel competent to *build* a trailer, which
is part of the issue.

Cathy
I built a very similar sof canoe about 20 years ago. Love it, and it
is still going strong after many hundreds of river miles. Had to
change the skin once, but it only took 4 - 6 hours over a couple of days.

Cheers, Brian

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Slimak" <otter55806@...> wrote:
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> The November/December issue of WoodenBoat has an article on building a
> skin on frame solo canoe, complete with offsets. It is 11'6" and
> weighs only 20 lbs.
> Bob
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Jim Michaels <james_a_michaels@> wrote:
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> > This may be a little off topic, but have you considered a
> skin-on-frame kayak?
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> > My sons and I built one in '07 and it is a blast - we drag it all
> over the place (camping, scout trips and sailing our Sunfish and PD
> Racer).��
> >
> > Those kayaks weight about 35lbs - very portable, and with power
> tools, you can build one in a� couple of weekends (I use only hand
> tools, but even so, we built ours in a couple of months).� They are
> really fun to build.
> >
> > Percy Blandford wrote a number of books on the subject, and even
> addressed sailing rigs.
> >
> > Anyway, good luck!
> >
> > Jim in St. Louis
> > (who is currently dreaming about building a Junebug)
> >
> > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, ladycathyofwales <catherine.james@> wrote:
> > From: ladycathyofwales <catherine.james@>
> > Subject: [bolger] Re: New member
> > To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 1:38 PM
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> > Yes, weight and bulkiness are key. We're currently using
self-bailing
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> > rivers but less than ideal for flatwater rivers and lakes, and
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> > impossible for anything offshore (even in protected bays).
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> > I'm in decent physical shape, but still, a mid-size woman picking
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> > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@> wrote:
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> > > <catherine.james@ ...> wrote:
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The November/December issue of WoodenBoat has an article on building a
skin on frame solo canoe, complete with offsets. It is 11'6" and
weighs only 20 lbs.
Bob



--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Jim Michaels <james_a_michaels@...> wrote:
>
> This may be a little off topic, but have you considered a
skin-on-frame kayak?
>
> My sons and I built one in '07 and it is a blast - we drag it all
over the place (camping, scout trips and sailing our Sunfish and PD
Racer).
>
> Those kayaks weight about 35lbs - very portable, and with power
tools, you can build one in a  couple of weekends (I use only hand
tools, but even so, we built ours in a couple of months).  They are
really fun to build.
>
> Percy Blandford wrote a number of books on the subject, and even
addressed sailing rigs.
>
> Anyway, good luck!
>
> Jim in St. Louis
> (who is currently dreaming about building a Junebug)
>
> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, ladycathyofwales <catherine.james@...> wrote:
> From: ladycathyofwales <catherine.james@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: New member
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 1:38 PM
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> Yes, weight and bulkiness are key. We're currently using self-bailing
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> inflatable kayaks for our boating, which is great for white water
>
> rivers but less than ideal for flatwater rivers and lakes, and
>
> impossible for anything offshore (even in protected bays).
>
>
>
> I'm in decent physical shape, but still, a mid-size woman picking up a
>
> boat by herself and lifting it on top of an SUV is a non-trivial task!
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> Cathy
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> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, ladycathyofwales
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> > <catherine.james@ ...> wrote:
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> > > will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
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> > > pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is
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> > > in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
>
> > > PDRacer later.
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> > The Tortoise is ideal, I cannot think of a better choice for your
>
> > needs. I have built and owned two of them, with the second built
>
> > while paying special attention to keeping it light weight. Wanting to
>
> > "toss" any boat on top of a car is a tough task, and keeping it small
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> > and light weight are essential.
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> At the Portland City of Books just tonight spotted a very nice copy
> of Chappelle's Boat Building, just $15; and a VG > Exc Folding
> Schooner for 60.

Mark
This may be a little off topic, but have you considered a skin-on-frame kayak?

My sons and I built one in '07 and it is a blast - we drag it all over the place (camping, scout trips and sailing our Sunfish and PD Racer).

Those kayaks weight about 35lbs - very portable, and with power tools, you can build one in a  couple of weekends (I use only hand tools, but even so, we built ours in a couple of months).  They are really fun to build.

Percy Blandford wrote a number of books on the subject, and even addressed sailing rigs.

Anyway, good luck!

Jim in St. Louis
(who is currently dreaming about building a Junebug)

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, ladycathyofwales <catherine.james@...> wrote:
From: ladycathyofwales <catherine.james@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: New member
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 1:38 PM













Yes, weight and bulkiness are key. We're currently using self-bailing

inflatable kayaks for our boating, which is great for white water

rivers but less than ideal for flatwater rivers and lakes, and

impossible for anything offshore (even in protected bays).



I'm in decent physical shape, but still, a mid-size woman picking up a

boat by herself and lifting it on top of an SUV is a non-trivial task!



Cathy



--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:

>

> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, ladycathyofwales

> <catherine.james@ ...> wrote:

>

> > will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can

> > pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is

not

> > in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or

> > PDRacer later.

>

>

> The Tortoise is ideal, I cannot think of a better choice for your

> needs. I have built and owned two of them, with the second built

> while paying special attention to keeping it light weight. Wanting to

> "toss" any boat on top of a car is a tough task, and keeping it small

> and light weight are essential.

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Cathy,



I'm a feeble old man, so I can relate. When looking for a car toppable
boat, most people think light weight, short boats. I have found that a
longer boat is easier to cartop because you can put one end on the ground
(preferably on a cushion), lift the other end, and put the high end on the
rack. Then you can lift the low end up onto the car.



If your car has an external radio antenna, it is a real good idea to remove
it while loading or unloading the boat.



I've been out on a PDR. It carried two large men with good stability and
gave the impression of speed (though it wasn't actually very fast). I assume
Tortoise would be about the same.



Have fun.



JohnT



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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ladycathyofwales
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:38 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: New member




Yes, weight and bulkiness are key. We're currently using self-bailing
inflatable kayaks for our boating, which is great for white water
rivers but less than ideal for flatwater rivers and lakes, and
impossible for anything offshore (even in protected bays).

I'm in decent physical shape, but still, a mid-size woman picking up a
boat by herself and lifting it on top of an SUV is a non-trivial task!

Cathy

--- In bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com, Bruce
Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, ladycathyofwales
> <catherine.james@...> wrote:
>
> > will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
> > pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is
not
> > in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
> > PDRacer later.
>
>
> The Tortoise is ideal, I cannot think of a better choice for your
> needs. I have built and owned two of them, with the second built
> while paying special attention to keeping it light weight. Wanting to
> "toss" any boat on top of a car is a tough task, and keeping it small
> and light weight are essential.
>





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Yes, weight and bulkiness are key. We're currently using self-bailing
inflatable kayaks for our boating, which is great for white water
rivers but less than ideal for flatwater rivers and lakes, and
impossible for anything offshore (even in protected bays).

I'm in decent physical shape, but still, a mid-size woman picking up a
boat by herself and lifting it on top of an SUV is a non-trivial task!

Cathy

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, ladycathyofwales
> <catherine.james@...> wrote:
>
> > will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
> > pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is
not
> > in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
> > PDRacer later.
>
>
> The Tortoise is ideal, I cannot think of a better choice for your
> needs. I have built and owned two of them, with the second built
> while paying special attention to keeping it light weight. Wanting to
> "toss" any boat on top of a car is a tough task, and keeping it small
> and light weight are essential.
>
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, ladycathyofwales
<catherine.james@...> wrote:

> will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
> pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is not
> in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
> PDRacer later.


The Tortoise is ideal, I cannot think of a better choice for your
needs. I have built and owned two of them, with the second built
while paying special attention to keeping it light weight. Wanting to
"toss" any boat on top of a car is a tough task, and keeping it small
and light weight are essential.
Welcome Cathy -

I have the plans for Tortoise, but ended up building an Elegant Punt. I've also sailed a Brick. This was several years ago, and have just finished a 16 foot cuddy cabin sharpie. Building small boats can get addictive.

You are going to love these little boats. Perfect for one or two people poking around the harbors and backwaters of eastern Mass (I was born and raised there -- and am currently trying to move back). You could spend a lifetime exploring the coast between Buzzards Bay and Monomoy Island -- lots of great gunkholing up on the north shore as well -- Essex, Ipswich, Plum Island.

Don't make yourself crazy on this first boat. Whatever materials you can afford are fine. The important thing is that you get it together and get it on the water. You'll learn so much from this first one, and then if you are so inclined, make your second one a masterpiece.

No matter the size, there is nothing like the feeling of accomplishment you will feel when you launch a boat you have built yourself.

David C

---- ladycathyofwales <catherine.james@...> wrote:
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> Greetings all,
>
> After years of *wanting* a boat, but not being in a position to spend
> thousands on a boat, I recently moved to eastern Massachusetts. That
> brought the desire for a sailboat to a head.
>
> While reading "Voyaging on a Small Income" and dreaming of
> long-distance voyaging, I came to the chapter on dinghies. I quickly
> found myself more fascinated with Bolger's "Tortoise" than with the
> rest of the book! I can't buy/build a full-scale yacht anytime soon,
> but I can build this...
>
> More research turned up various Bolger boats and the PDRacer.
>
> Now that I realize I can bang something together in a few weeks at
> most and get out there, I can't wait for spring to start building. I
> will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
> pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is not
> in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
> PDRacer later.
>
> Here's hoping that everything works out and I can join the fun the
> rest of you are having!
>
> Cathy
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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>
Bruce Hallman of this group is a big fan of the Tortoise, I believe he
has some on line pics of it and hopefully will post the link again.

HJ

ladycathyofwales wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> After years of *wanting* a boat, but not being in a position to spend
> thousands on a boat, I recently moved to eastern Massachusetts. That
> brought the desire for a sailboat to a head.
>
> While reading "Voyaging on a Small Income" and dreaming of
> long-distance voyaging, I came to the chapter on dinghies. I quickly
> found myself more fascinated with Bolger's "Tortoise" than with the
> rest of the book! I can't buy/build a full-scale yacht anytime soon,
> but I can build this...
>
> More research turned up various Bolger boats and the PDRacer.
>
> Now that I realize I can bang something together in a few weeks at
> most and get out there, I can't wait for spring to start building. I
> will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
> pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is not
> in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
> PDRacer later.
>
> Here's hoping that everything works out and I can join the fun the
> rest of you are having!
>
> Cathy
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "ladycathyofwales"
<catherine.james@...> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings all,
>
> After years of *wanting* a boat, but not being in a position to
spend
> thousands on a boat, I recently moved to eastern Massachusetts.
That
> brought the desire for a sailboat to a head.
>
> While reading "Voyaging on a Small Income" and dreaming of
> long-distance voyaging, I came to the chapter on dinghies. I
quickly
> found myself more fascinated with Bolger's "Tortoise" than with the
> rest of the book! I can't buy/build a full-scale yacht anytime
soon,
> but I can build this...Welcome this is great place to start..
>
> More research turned up various Bolger boats and the PDRacer.
>
> Now that I realize I can bang something together in a few weeks at
> most and get out there, I can't wait for spring to start building.
I
> will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
> pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is
not
> in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
> PDRacer later.
>
> Here's hoping that everything works out and I can join the fun the
> rest of you are having!
>
> Cathy
>
Greetings all,

After years of *wanting* a boat, but not being in a position to spend
thousands on a boat, I recently moved to eastern Massachusetts. That
brought the desire for a sailboat to a head.

While reading "Voyaging on a Small Income" and dreaming of
long-distance voyaging, I came to the chapter on dinghies. I quickly
found myself more fascinated with Bolger's "Tortoise" than with the
rest of the book! I can't buy/build a full-scale yacht anytime soon,
but I can build this...

More research turned up various Bolger boats and the PDRacer.

Now that I realize I can bang something together in a few weeks at
most and get out there, I can't wait for spring to start building. I
will probably start with the Tortoise w/ sailing rig, because I can
pick it up by myself and toss it on the car even if my husband is not
in a boating mood. If he gets interested, I can build a Brick or
PDRacer later.

Here's hoping that everything works out and I can join the fun the
rest of you are having!

Cathy
Hi everyone,
I've been looking at this group for awhile, and have decided to pitch in at last. My June Bug had been finished to the rowing stage, when a job change and shift to a new town intervened. This is a good thing, as my new house is 10 minutes to the water instead of an hour. Most of the other parts, including rudder, mast step and leeboard have been finished apart from the painting, with only the mast and sprit boom to be carved out of the rough.
The next step, is the trailer, which is something I need some advice on. I intend to build a larger sharpie sometime; something in the general size and shape of Otter 1, which was 19' 6", from memory. This trailer would need to be usable for both, if possible. An extendable drawbar would be necessary, but I'm not sure how to set the trailer up, as sharpies are next to non-existent in my area (Wellington, New Zealand). How are "bunks" set up, as sharpies have no deadrise like normal boats, so conventional rollers wouldn't seem to be the go. Also, plumb sides like on June Bug, pose their own problems. My bigger boat is also intended to have plumb sides, and pointy bow, just like June Bug.
Any advise you can provide, would be most welcome.

Many Thanks,
Karl Rasmussen