Re: [bolger] Pilothouse windows [was Bow Shed]
--- sctree wrote:
with the goop, [siliconized
caulk] was *not* easy.
I predict that sliding the
windows down a slot, will
be messy, and will push
the goop out when you want
to keep the goop in.
I recommend lots and lots
of masking tape, plus maybe
you should experiment some
first. I found that making
about a hundred 'single use'
"V" scraper tools out of
thin cardboard worked to lift
and clean the over-gooped
caulking. Each was used for
about four inches, and then
discarded.
You might also want to consider
a more conventional window
glazing detail, where you use
a trim piece instead of a slot.
> slide in the pane withIn my case, dealing *neatly*
> flexible goop in the slots,
with the goop, [siliconized
caulk] was *not* easy.
I predict that sliding the
windows down a slot, will
be messy, and will push
the goop out when you want
to keep the goop in.
I recommend lots and lots
of masking tape, plus maybe
you should experiment some
first. I found that making
about a hundred 'single use'
"V" scraper tools out of
thin cardboard worked to lift
and clean the over-gooped
caulking. Each was used for
about four inches, and then
discarded.
You might also want to consider
a more conventional window
glazing detail, where you use
a trim piece instead of a slot.
Bruce,
the rectangular window frames aren't so bad.
the rounded corner of the pane is stronger than a 90 degree corner...
On the benchtop epoxy three sides together with the fourth dry fitted to
maintain shape. Next day slide in the pane with flexible goop in the
slots, epoxy on the fourth. Later bed and screw the whole thing to the
cabin, like when a house gets new windows....
What I'll actually do, who knows? I'm open to suggestions.
Last two goes at this sort of thing I left the paper on the panes until
very close to launching day.
Rick
>I agree they will look better rounded. Reddy is mostly square angles, so
> I don't regret the rounded
> corners, I like the way they
> look, but it *was* extra work.
the rectangular window frames aren't so bad.
>Yes, they work like a gusset. Much stronger frame corners, and I'd guess
> Also, I think that the rounding,
> [would you call that filleting?]
> also serves structurally with the
> connections of the stiles and rails,
> and that is probably the reason that
> the PB&F plans show them.
the rounded corner of the pane is stronger than a 90 degree corner...
>My current idea is the rails and stiles connected with half lap joints.
> > My intent is to fit the panes before
> > assembling the final stile, then
> > fitting the whole mess to the cabin.
>
> How will you connect the last joint?
> I found it easy to goober up the Lexan
> with glue, and it scratches too easily.
On the benchtop epoxy three sides together with the fourth dry fitted to
maintain shape. Next day slide in the pane with flexible goop in the
slots, epoxy on the fourth. Later bed and screw the whole thing to the
cabin, like when a house gets new windows....
What I'll actually do, who knows? I'm open to suggestions.
Last two goes at this sort of thing I left the paper on the panes until
very close to launching day.
Rick
>
>
--- sctree wrote:
corners, I like the way they
look, but it *was* extra work.
Also, I think that the rounding,
[would you call that filleting?]
also serves structurally with the
connections of the stiles and rails,
and that is probably the reason that
the PB&F plans show them.
I found it easy to goober up the Lexan
with glue, and it scratches too easily.
> > rounded corners.I don't regret the rounded
>
> Luckily I have squared corners.
corners, I like the way they
look, but it *was* extra work.
Also, I think that the rounding,
[would you call that filleting?]
also serves structurally with the
connections of the stiles and rails,
and that is probably the reason that
the PB&F plans show them.
> My intent is to fit the panes beforeHow will you connect the last joint?
> assembling the final stile, then
> fitting the whole mess to the cabin.
I found it easy to goober up the Lexan
with glue, and it scratches too easily.
Bruce Hallman wrote:
fitting the whole mess to the cabin.
hope to be there the night before, and maybe the night after with
Microtrawler. Maybe Pointy Skiff. Details to follow in a few days......
Rick
> --- sctree wrote:Been there, done that.
> > Still thinking about some
> > camber, with deep
> > routered slots
>
> I looked again critically at my
> cambered windows, and I did more
> like 1" in 36", and the camber
> definitely helps a lot with the wobble.
> The deflections that are visible, are
> localized where I screwed [overscrewed]
>Luckily I have squared corners.
> the lexan to the molding strips.
>
> One thing to consider, on the PB&F
> plans, the window openings have
> rounded corners.
> I found that theMy intent is to fit the panes before assembling the final stile, then
> job of stem bending the molding
> strips to be a 'learning experience'
> to say the least. Routing the channel
> might work better, but fitting the
> lexan in routed slots seems tough.
fitting the whole mess to the cabin.
>Cool, another Bolger boat. Plan on Windmill Cove Marina, the 29th. I
>
> > Hey Bruce, how about towing the
> > Navigator out to the
> > November Messabout in Stockton????
>
> There is no way my Navigator will be
> ready by Nov 29th, but my S.O. and I
> may come with Teal, tent & sleeping bags.
hope to be there the night before, and maybe the night after with
Microtrawler. Maybe Pointy Skiff. Details to follow in a few days......
Rick
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--- sctree wrote:
cambered windows, and I did more
like 1" in 36", and the camber
definitely helps a lot with the wobble.
The deflections that are visible, are
localized where I screwed [overscrewed]
the lexan to the molding strips.
One thing to consider, on the PB&F
plans, the window openings have
rounded corners. I found that the
job of stem bending the molding
strips to be a 'learning experience'
to say the least. Routing the channel
might work better, but fitting the
lexan in routed slots seems tough.
ready by Nov 29th, but my S.O. and I
may come with Teal, tent & sleeping bags.
> Still thinking about someI looked again critically at my
> camber, with deep
> routered slots
cambered windows, and I did more
like 1" in 36", and the camber
definitely helps a lot with the wobble.
The deflections that are visible, are
localized where I screwed [overscrewed]
the lexan to the molding strips.
One thing to consider, on the PB&F
plans, the window openings have
rounded corners. I found that the
job of stem bending the molding
strips to be a 'learning experience'
to say the least. Routing the channel
might work better, but fitting the
lexan in routed slots seems tough.
> Hey Bruce, how about towing theThere is no way my Navigator will be
> Navigator out to the
> November Messabout in Stockton????
ready by Nov 29th, but my S.O. and I
may come with Teal, tent & sleeping bags.
Thanks, I guess I'll try 3/16ths.
Today I enlarged the window holes on my Microtrawler by a few inches, so
now I'll need 24" x 26". Still thinking about some camber, with deep
routered slots for the acrylic.... Haven't quite figured out exact
details .....
Hey Bruce, how about towing the Navigator out to the November Messabout
in Stockton????
Rick
Bruce Hallman wrote:
Today I enlarged the window holes on my Microtrawler by a few inches, so
now I'll need 24" x 26". Still thinking about some camber, with deep
routered slots for the acrylic.... Haven't quite figured out exact
details .....
Hey Bruce, how about towing the Navigator out to the November Messabout
in Stockton????
Rick
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> --- sctree asked:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > I was thinking of building in some
> > camber to the frames to give the
> > thinner stuff some rigidity.
> > Did it work ? Anyone else help with ideas?
>
> Well, the thin 1/8" Lexan still is wobbly
> even with a 2" camber in 36" width.
>
> Never the less, I did impromptu testing
> of the strength of the Lexan, and wow,
> that stuff is tough. I concluded that
> even with the wobbles, the failure will
> be in the fasteners, not in the lexan.
>
> I was unable to break a piece 1/8" by 1/4"
> by 24" using my bare hands.
>
> Did it work? Cosmetically, not really, well
> maybe it helped some. That is hard to know.
> The curved windows cause subtle curves in
> the cabin, and that looks 'nautical' which
> is good. [More than twice as hard to build!]
>
> Structurally, I believe camber doesn't matter.
> What matters is the connection detail of the
> Lexan to the boat.
>
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Did you know you can bend Lexan (polycarbonate) like metal? Clamp a strip
in the vise and hammer to make a 90° bend (with protection from tool marks
and a slight radius like copper or steel). Or use a bending brake if you
have one.
Roger
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in the vise and hammer to make a 90° bend (with protection from tool marks
and a slight radius like copper or steel). Or use a bending brake if you
have one.
Roger
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...>
> Nevertheless, I did impromptu testing
> of the strength of the Lexan, and wow,
> that stuff is tough. I concluded that
> even with the wobbles, the failure will
> be in the fasteners, not in the lexan.
>
> I was unable to break a piece 1/8" by 1/4"
> by 24" using my bare hands.
--- sctree asked:
even with a 2" camber in 36" width.
Never the less, I did impromptu testing
of the strength of the Lexan, and wow,
that stuff is tough. I concluded that
even with the wobbles, the failure will
be in the fasteners, not in the lexan.
I was unable to break a piece 1/8" by 1/4"
by 24" using my bare hands.
Did it work? Cosmetically, not really, well
maybe it helped some. That is hard to know.
The curved windows cause subtle curves in
the cabin, and that looks 'nautical' which
is good. [More than twice as hard to build!]
Structurally, I believe camber doesn't matter.
What matters is the connection detail of the
Lexan to the boat.
> I was thinking of building in someWell, the thin 1/8" Lexan still is wobbly
> camber to the frames to give the
> thinner stuff some rigidity.
> Did it work ? Anyone else help with ideas?
even with a 2" camber in 36" width.
Never the less, I did impromptu testing
of the strength of the Lexan, and wow,
that stuff is tough. I concluded that
even with the wobbles, the failure will
be in the fasteners, not in the lexan.
I was unable to break a piece 1/8" by 1/4"
by 24" using my bare hands.
Did it work? Cosmetically, not really, well
maybe it helped some. That is hard to know.
The curved windows cause subtle curves in
the cabin, and that looks 'nautical' which
is good. [More than twice as hard to build!]
Structurally, I believe camber doesn't matter.
What matters is the connection detail of the
Lexan to the boat.
Make your own convex acrylic windows with a clamped perimeter and a heat
lamp? There must be instructions on the net does anyone have a link?
-Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: sctree [mailto:sctree@...]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:55
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Pilothouse windows [was Bow Shed]
A little further south of you Bruce, where it's 48 F and RAINING. Ya, ya
I know you guys elsewhere think that's summer, but just three days ago
it was over 100F. I want my sun back......
Anyway, this cold spell means I gotta get the windows on the pilothouse
before the next outing. Thing is, the now ten year old tinted lexan is
so fogged and scratched I can't see through it. And I really want to
rework the whole window idea. The panes are 2' x 2' and I want them
seasonally removable. On for the winter, and stored in the garage for
the summer. My big problem is with 2' x 2' panes the thin acrylic
wobbles and flexes, the thick stuff is big $$ and heavy. I was thinking
of building in some camber to the frames to give the thinner stuff some
rigidity. Bruce you said something about trying this on your Navigator.
Did it work ? Anyone else help with ideas?
Thanks.
Rick
Who can't even remember what warm sunshine is like anymore as it's been
so long....
Bruce Hallman wrote:
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lamp? There must be instructions on the net does anyone have a link?
-Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: sctree [mailto:sctree@...]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:55
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Pilothouse windows [was Bow Shed]
A little further south of you Bruce, where it's 48 F and RAINING. Ya, ya
I know you guys elsewhere think that's summer, but just three days ago
it was over 100F. I want my sun back......
Anyway, this cold spell means I gotta get the windows on the pilothouse
before the next outing. Thing is, the now ten year old tinted lexan is
so fogged and scratched I can't see through it. And I really want to
rework the whole window idea. The panes are 2' x 2' and I want them
seasonally removable. On for the winter, and stored in the garage for
the summer. My big problem is with 2' x 2' panes the thin acrylic
wobbles and flexes, the thick stuff is big $$ and heavy. I was thinking
of building in some camber to the frames to give the thinner stuff some
rigidity. Bruce you said something about trying this on your Navigator.
Did it work ? Anyone else help with ideas?
Thanks.
Rick
Who can't even remember what warm sunshine is like anymore as it's been
so long....
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> > work done when the thermometerYahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > plummets down to 60 deg.F.
> > Bloody inhuman, I say!
>
> And that is the high temperature!
> The low got down to 43 deg. this morning!
> This is likely to impair the amount of
> exposed skin at the Halloween party
> tonight in the Castro you know.
> > (any pictures?)
> Look for the guy in the banana costume
>
> > A year does fly by awefully fast!
> Bear in mind that lots of 'real life' occurred
> in the last year. Plus I build a Teal and a
> Yellow Leaf too.
>
> > Any idea what the next boat will be?
>
> I keep dreaming.
> My S.O. still wants a Champlain, and so do
> I, (sort of), pictures of it are on my wall
> near me as I write. Also, there are pictures
> of Rozinante, and of Yonder. S.S. Rabl has
> a design for a deliciously swoopy and retro
> 16 foot outboard 1940's style runabout in
> his book _Boatbuilding in Your Own Backyard_.
>
> My S.O. also suggests using and learning from
> our Micro Navigator before making decisions on
> the next 'big boat'. Good advice, I feel.
>
> So, probably a smaller boat, I really want a
> classic cruising canoe, to the lines of the
> "Rob Roy" described so elegantly by L. F.
> Herreshoff.
>
> Also, I cannot see why not to build a Superbrick.
>
>
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If you are not overconcerned with weight you might consider laminated
glass. The only drawback is the weight. It has none of the
disadvantages of plastic. It is breakable of course but the odds are
usually against breakage in normal situations. Certainly the cost is
competetive.
Bob Chamberland
glass. The only drawback is the weight. It has none of the
disadvantages of plastic. It is breakable of course but the odds are
usually against breakage in normal situations. Certainly the cost is
competetive.
Bob Chamberland
> Anyway, this cold spell means I gotta get the windows on the pilothouse
> before the next outing. Thing is, the now ten year old tinted lexan is
> so fogged and scratched I can't see through it. And I really want to
> rework the whole window idea. The panes are 2' x 2' and I want them
> seasonally removable. On for the winter, and stored in the garage for
> the summer. My big problem is with 2' x 2' panes the thin acrylic
> wobbles and flexes, the thick stuff is big $$ and heavy. I was thinking
> of building in some camber to the frames to give the thinner stuff some
> rigidity. Bruce you said something about trying this on your Navigator.
> Did it work ? Anyone else help with ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rick
A little further south of you Bruce, where it's 48 F and RAINING. Ya, ya
I know you guys elsewhere think that's summer, but just three days ago
it was over 100F. I want my sun back......
Anyway, this cold spell means I gotta get the windows on the pilothouse
before the next outing. Thing is, the now ten year old tinted lexan is
so fogged and scratched I can't see through it. And I really want to
rework the whole window idea. The panes are 2' x 2' and I want them
seasonally removable. On for the winter, and stored in the garage for
the summer. My big problem is with 2' x 2' panes the thin acrylic
wobbles and flexes, the thick stuff is big $$ and heavy. I was thinking
of building in some camber to the frames to give the thinner stuff some
rigidity. Bruce you said something about trying this on your Navigator.
Did it work ? Anyone else help with ideas?
Thanks.
Rick
Who can't even remember what warm sunshine is like anymore as it's been
so long....
Bruce Hallman wrote:
I know you guys elsewhere think that's summer, but just three days ago
it was over 100F. I want my sun back......
Anyway, this cold spell means I gotta get the windows on the pilothouse
before the next outing. Thing is, the now ten year old tinted lexan is
so fogged and scratched I can't see through it. And I really want to
rework the whole window idea. The panes are 2' x 2' and I want them
seasonally removable. On for the winter, and stored in the garage for
the summer. My big problem is with 2' x 2' panes the thin acrylic
wobbles and flexes, the thick stuff is big $$ and heavy. I was thinking
of building in some camber to the frames to give the thinner stuff some
rigidity. Bruce you said something about trying this on your Navigator.
Did it work ? Anyone else help with ideas?
Thanks.
Rick
Who can't even remember what warm sunshine is like anymore as it's been
so long....
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> > work done when the thermometer
> > plummets down to 60 deg.F.
> > Bloody inhuman,I say!
>
> And that is the high temperature!
> The low got down to 43 deg. this morning!
> This is likely to impair the amount of
> exposed skin at the Halloween party
> tonight in the Castro you know.
> > (any pictures?)
> Look for the guy in the banana costume
>
> > A year does fly by awefully fast!
> Bear in mind that lots of 'real life' occurred
> in the last year. Plus I build a Teal and a
> Yellow Leaf too.
>
> > Any idea what the next boat will be?
>
> I keep dreaming.
> My S.O. still wants a Champlain, and so do
> I, (sort of), pictures of it are on my wall
> near me as I write. Also, there are pictures
> of Rozinante, and of Yonder. S.S. Rabl has
> a design for a deliciously swoopy and retro
> 16 foot outboard 1940's style runabout in
> his book _Boatbuilding in Your Own Backyard_.
>
> My S.O. also suggests using and learning from
> our Micro Navigator before making decisions on
> the next 'big boat'. Good advice, I feel.
>
> So, probably a smaller boat, I really want a
> classic cruising canoe, to the lines of the
> "Rob Roy" described so elegantly by L. F.
> Herreshoff.
>
> Also, I cannot see why not to build a Superbrick.
>
>
> work done when the thermometerAnd that is the high temperature!
> plummets down to 60 deg.F.
> Bloody inhuman,I say!
The low got down to 43 deg. this morning!
This is likely to impair the amount of
exposed skin at the Halloween party
tonight in the Castro you know.
> (any pictures?)Look for the guy in the banana costume
> A year does fly by awefully fast!Bear in mind that lots of 'real life' occurred
in the last year. Plus I build a Teal and a
Yellow Leaf too.
> Any idea what the next boat will be?I keep dreaming.
My S.O. still wants a Champlain, and so do
I, (sort of), pictures of it are on my wall
near me as I write. Also, there are pictures
of Rozinante, and of Yonder. S.S. Rabl has
a design for a deliciously swoopy and retro
16 foot outboard 1940's style runabout in
his book _Boatbuilding in Your Own Backyard_.
My S.O. also suggests using and learning from
our Micro Navigator before making decisions on
the next 'big boat'. Good advice, I feel.
So, probably a smaller boat, I really want a
classic cruising canoe, to the lines of the
"Rob Roy" described so elegantly by L. F.
Herreshoff.
Also, I cannot see why not to build a Superbrick.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
Very sorry,indeed,about all that blasted grief your horrible
climate is causing you.Afterall,how in blazes is a chap to get any
work done when the thermometer plummets down to 60 deg.F. Bloody
inhuman,I say!
I shouldn't advertise this but, I would be willing to trade
places with you,if only for a few months,so that you could escape
from those hellish conditions,which somehow passes for a climate,and
restore yourself back to full and proper health! If your game,I'll
take it a first class return plane ticket in my mail box as our
secret code..........:-)
A year does fly by awefully fast! Congrats on the work so far
(any pictures?) and you must be getting excited about sailing her
soon!!
Any idea what the next boat will be?
Sincerely,
Peter,California Dreaming,Lenihan................
>[Almost exactly a year
> ...due to the recent weather change,
> 80 deg F sun on Monday
> to 60 deg F sun on Wednesday,
> since I moved her in...time fliesBruce,
> when you are having fun].
Very sorry,indeed,about all that blasted grief your horrible
climate is causing you.Afterall,how in blazes is a chap to get any
work done when the thermometer plummets down to 60 deg.F. Bloody
inhuman,I say!
I shouldn't advertise this but, I would be willing to trade
places with you,if only for a few months,so that you could escape
from those hellish conditions,which somehow passes for a climate,and
restore yourself back to full and proper health! If your game,I'll
take it a first class return plane ticket in my mail box as our
secret code..........:-)
A year does fly by awefully fast! Congrats on the work so far
(any pictures?) and you must be getting excited about sailing her
soon!!
Any idea what the next boat will be?
Sincerely,
Peter,California Dreaming,Lenihan................
Hi,
or:
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/katos.html
A two page article in Finish but with good images.
The plans are here:
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/kuvat/jigi.jpg
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/kuvat/kulmat.jpg
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/kuvat/katosmitoitus.jpg
Enjoy!
Crister
or:
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/katos.html
A two page article in Finish but with good images.
The plans are here:
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/kuvat/jigi.jpg
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/kuvat/kulmat.jpg
http://www.puuvene.net/Lehti/2001-3/kuvat/katosmitoitus.jpg
Enjoy!
Crister
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@b...> wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, hal <hal@c...> wrote:
> >
> > How about some pictures/plans/instructions for
> > the bow shed. A Google of "Bow Shed" returns
> > nothing useful.
> >
> > hal
>
> Hi Hal,
> Try this:
>http://www.by-the-sea.com/stimsonmarine/bowroof.html
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Peter Lenihan
--- Peter Lenihan wrote:
...due to the recent weather change,
80 deg F sun on Monday
to 60 deg F sun on Wednesday,
I have now officially switched
from Raka Slow to Raka Fast hardener,
here on the cold and windy
California coast...
[rain is forcast for tomorrow!]
Fortunately, my Micro Navigator
roof and roof hatch are now on,
and after a little more surface finishing
and sealing of roof windows etc.,
I will get to move her out onto the
driveway and my shop/garage will actually
be empty again! [Almost exactly a year
since I moved her in...time flies
when you are having fun].
> cold temperaturesWell,
...due to the recent weather change,
80 deg F sun on Monday
to 60 deg F sun on Wednesday,
I have now officially switched
from Raka Slow to Raka Fast hardener,
here on the cold and windy
California coast...
[rain is forcast for tomorrow!]
Fortunately, my Micro Navigator
roof and roof hatch are now on,
and after a little more surface finishing
and sealing of roof windows etc.,
I will get to move her out onto the
driveway and my shop/garage will actually
be empty again! [Almost exactly a year
since I moved her in...time flies
when you are having fun].
If you join the Badger Owners & Builders group and go to Files and check out
Peter Ring of Denmark, Europe, you'll see his 6.5 x 20 meter "tent" (22' x
67') for building a 34' boat. (It looks like a Quonset hut with
demispherical ends.)
George Buehler in "Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding" has a chapter on
building a workshop/shed cheap, but it's not a "bow" shed.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
Peter Ring of Denmark, Europe, you'll see his 6.5 x 20 meter "tent" (22' x
67') for building a 34' boat. (It looks like a Quonset hut with
demispherical ends.)
George Buehler in "Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding" has a chapter on
building a workshop/shed cheap, but it's not a "bow" shed.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "hal"hal@...
> On Oct 29, 2003, at 3:16 PM, sctree wrote:
> >> after reviewing
> >> plans of the famous BOW SHED sent to me by a fellow list member am
> >> all pumped up and excited about building one of these"green houses"
> >> for winter work!
> >
> > I can personally recommend the bow shed.
>
> How about some pictures/plans/instructions for
> the bow shed. A Google of "Bow Shed" returns
> nothing useful.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, hal <hal@c...> wrote:
Try this:
http://www.by-the-sea.com/stimsonmarine/bowroof.html
Enjoy!
Peter Lenihan
>Hi Hal,
> How about some pictures/plans/instructions for
> the bow shed. A Google of "Bow Shed" returns
> nothing useful.
>
> hal
Try this:
http://www.by-the-sea.com/stimsonmarine/bowroof.html
Enjoy!
Peter Lenihan
On Oct 29, 2003, at 3:16 PM, sctree wrote:
the bow shed. A Google of "Bow Shed" returns
nothing useful.
hal
>How about some pictures/plans/instructions for
>
>> after reviewing
>> plans of the famous BOW SHED sent to me by a fellow list member am
>> all pumped up and excited about building one of these"green houses"
>> for winter work!
>
> I can personally recommend the bow shed.
the bow shed. A Google of "Bow Shed" returns
nothing useful.
hal
Ken,
It was a guy, Ed something, restoring an old plank on frame full keel
sloop in his New England backyard. I recall to get headroom above the
deck he needed to raise the bow shed up so built 2x4 and plywood knee
walls about four foot high first, then the bow shed on top. But there
were lots of photos showing the shed in New England snow, deep snow... I
think it was on the original WoodenBoat forum were he was posting weekly
updates with photos. I haven't checked in there in over a year, so
search there way back in say winter of '01 or maybe 2000?
Rick
Ken Locarnini wrote:
It was a guy, Ed something, restoring an old plank on frame full keel
sloop in his New England backyard. I recall to get headroom above the
deck he needed to raise the bow shed up so built 2x4 and plywood knee
walls about four foot high first, then the bow shed on top. But there
were lots of photos showing the shed in New England snow, deep snow... I
think it was on the original WoodenBoat forum were he was posting weekly
updates with photos. I haven't checked in there in over a year, so
search there way back in say winter of '01 or maybe 2000?
Rick
Ken Locarnini wrote:
> Post pictures!!!
>
> Re: Bow Shed [was #481 closed in]
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, sctree <sctree@d...> wrote:
> > I can personally recommend the bow shed. I have seen photos of them
> up
> > to their eyeballs in snow.
>
>
Post pictures!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Lenihan
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Bow Shed [was #481 closed in]
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, sctree <sctree@d...> wrote:
> I can personally recommend the bow shed. I have seen photos of them
up
> to their eyeballs in snow.
Now there's an endorsement even I can understand...thanks Rick!
Originally I had hoped/planned/intended on getting away without any
structure at all since in my wilder dreams I actually thought the
cabin on the boat would all be closed in BEFORE winter arrived.
Well......the weather has been very un-co-operative with unseasonably
cold temperatures combined with what is shaping up to be a record for
least hours of sunshine for the month of October...ever and the most
amount of precipitation:-(
This is what first got me thinking about some sort of mini-green
house a while ago to get the side panels done. The endless rain has
pretty much stopped me dead in my tracks regarding that
idea.However,the Bow Shed now looks all that much more promising
since,had I been wiser,I could have continued working even on all
these cold rainy days under a Bow Shed.
What I really need now are just several consecutive rain-free
days.O.K.,I'll take even one bleeding day per week without rain so
that I can start on a Bow Shed.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,who refuses to get too jealous about folks"suffering"
from the heat and dryness while reminding himself that,although the
wheels of justice may turn very slowly up in heaven,they do grind
extremely fine..............
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, sctree <sctree@d...> wrote:
Originally I had hoped/planned/intended on getting away without any
structure at all since in my wilder dreams I actually thought the
cabin on the boat would all be closed in BEFORE winter arrived.
Well......the weather has been very un-co-operative with unseasonably
cold temperatures combined with what is shaping up to be a record for
least hours of sunshine for the month of October...ever and the most
amount of precipitation:-(
This is what first got me thinking about some sort of mini-green
house a while ago to get the side panels done. The endless rain has
pretty much stopped me dead in my tracks regarding that
idea.However,the Bow Shed now looks all that much more promising
since,had I been wiser,I could have continued working even on all
these cold rainy days under a Bow Shed.
What I really need now are just several consecutive rain-free
days.O.K.,I'll take even one bleeding day per week without rain so
that I can start on a Bow Shed.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,who refuses to get too jealous about folks"suffering"
from the heat and dryness while reminding himself that,although the
wheels of justice may turn very slowly up in heaven,they do grind
extremely fine..............
> I can personally recommend the bow shed. I have seen photos of themup
> to their eyeballs in snow.Now there's an endorsement even I can understand...thanks Rick!
Originally I had hoped/planned/intended on getting away without any
structure at all since in my wilder dreams I actually thought the
cabin on the boat would all be closed in BEFORE winter arrived.
Well......the weather has been very un-co-operative with unseasonably
cold temperatures combined with what is shaping up to be a record for
least hours of sunshine for the month of October...ever and the most
amount of precipitation:-(
This is what first got me thinking about some sort of mini-green
house a while ago to get the side panels done. The endless rain has
pretty much stopped me dead in my tracks regarding that
idea.However,the Bow Shed now looks all that much more promising
since,had I been wiser,I could have continued working even on all
these cold rainy days under a Bow Shed.
What I really need now are just several consecutive rain-free
days.O.K.,I'll take even one bleeding day per week without rain so
that I can start on a Bow Shed.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,who refuses to get too jealous about folks"suffering"
from the heat and dryness while reminding himself that,although the
wheels of justice may turn very slowly up in heaven,they do grind
extremely fine..............
> after reviewingI can personally recommend the bow shed. I have seen photos of them up
> plans of the famous BOW SHED sent to me by a fellow list member am
> all pumped up and excited about building one of these"green houses"
> for winter work!
to their eyeballs in snow. Of course around here I was able to get away
with using 1/4" x 4" redwood (what the landscapers here call 'bender
board") over on-edge 2x4 blocking for the bows and I pounded one foot
long lengths of 2x4 halfway into the ground to attach the bow frame
bases. No frost heaves here. After a week or so I cut off the bottom six
feet of plastic all around, made sort of a patio cover which was enough
to keep the winter dew and rain, (yes it does rain here) off the boat
and tools, and made it much easier to go in and out.. Then as summer
came around I put diluted latex paint into a bug sprayer and sprayed the
outside of the poly cover to create a sun shade.... The following winter
I added a second "skin" of poly over the whole thing to be sure of rain
proof cover again....
Rick
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <bys@c...> wrote:
Whaddya mean,"resigned to the fact that winter has won
again"...? You've gotta be kiddin',right? Surely there is no snow up
your way,yet!
I've hardly begun to fight the good fight and after reviewing
plans of the famous BOW SHED sent to me by a fellow list member am
all pumped up and excited about building one of these"green houses"
for winter work!
The trick now is to get more then 3 hours of sunshine every 5
days.......which has been our miserable lot here on the banks of the
St.Lawrence Seaway for some time now.
Other then that,your houseboat is looking mighty good and ready
for some serious"barn sailing" this winter.Set up some of those heat
lamps inside the barn and fill the cooler up......maybe even put some
posters up depicting tropical shores,where the windows are, and
you'll have lots of virtual boating to hold you over the winter :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,only mildly jealous of your progress.......arrrrg!
> Finally got a picture of Houseboat #481 closed in for winter.Windows
> word great and the tint is just what we all need. Picture is onPaul,
> Bolger 2 in houseboat under winterready.
> Paul McLellan, resigned to the fact that winter has won again and we
> are entering the tunnel.
Whaddya mean,"resigned to the fact that winter has won
again"...? You've gotta be kiddin',right? Surely there is no snow up
your way,yet!
I've hardly begun to fight the good fight and after reviewing
plans of the famous BOW SHED sent to me by a fellow list member am
all pumped up and excited about building one of these"green houses"
for winter work!
The trick now is to get more then 3 hours of sunshine every 5
days.......which has been our miserable lot here on the banks of the
St.Lawrence Seaway for some time now.
Other then that,your houseboat is looking mighty good and ready
for some serious"barn sailing" this winter.Set up some of those heat
lamps inside the barn and fill the cooler up......maybe even put some
posters up depicting tropical shores,where the windows are, and
you'll have lots of virtual boating to hold you over the winter :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,only mildly jealous of your progress.......arrrrg!
The sunny, warm (and fire free) California Delta is only a few gazillion
trailer miles away... She'd make a great Delta Cruiser.
Rick
Paul wrote:
trailer miles away... She'd make a great Delta Cruiser.
Rick
Paul wrote:
> Finally got a picture of Houseboat #481 closed in for winter. Windows
> word great and the tint is just what we all need. Picture is on
> Bolger 2 in houseboat under winterready.
> Paul McLellan, resigned to the fact that winter has won again and we
> are entering the tunnel.
>
Finally got a picture of Houseboat #481 closed in for winter. Windows
word great and the tint is just what we all need. Picture is on
Bolger 2 in houseboat under winterready.
Paul McLellan, resigned to the fact that winter has won again and we
are entering the tunnel.
word great and the tint is just what we all need. Picture is on
Bolger 2 in houseboat under winterready.
Paul McLellan, resigned to the fact that winter has won again and we
are entering the tunnel.