Re: [bolger] Re: Looking for a sail/row boat
If you can find a group that has races, formal or informal, your sailing
skills will advance by leaps and bounds. We used racing (with Optimist
prams) starting with the third session of the classes at the Halifax River
Sailing Association. When someone in an identical boat is going faster, you
don't need the instructor to tell you you're doing something wrong.
(A slightly larger boat would be a lot easier on the knees. We raced
Sunfish on Sundays.)
To post a picture, go to Bolger3,http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/
(If you're not a member, join.) Then select "Photos" then "Add Photo" then
browse to your image (on your disk), select it and click "upload" on the
Yahoo page.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
skills will advance by leaps and bounds. We used racing (with Optimist
prams) starting with the third session of the classes at the Halifax River
Sailing Association. When someone in an identical boat is going faster, you
don't need the instructor to tell you you're doing something wrong.
(A slightly larger boat would be a lot easier on the knees. We raced
Sunfish on Sundays.)
To post a picture, go to Bolger3,http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/
(If you're not a member, join.) Then select "Photos" then "Add Photo" then
browse to your image (on your disk), select it and click "upload" on the
Yahoo page.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerrych57" <churchj@...>
> I plan to build a boat someday, but learning to sail comes first.
> I've sailed a little bit and took a Red Cross sailing class a long
> time ago. A college roommate had a Hobi 14 and I went with him
> fairly often until he got a girlfriend. He liked her as crew more
> than me for some reason.
>
> I'll be searching all the for sale ads I can find.
>
> How do you post pictures? I built a model of Featherwind that I'd
> like to share a picture of with you. It turned out pretty good, I
> believe.
Thanks for all the replies, it's great getting to hear about all the
different experiences you've had.
I plan to build a boat someday, but learning to sail comes first.
I've sailed a little bit and took a Red Cross sailing class a long
time ago. A college roommate had a Hobi 14 and I went with him
fairly often until he got a girlfriend. He liked her as crew more
than me for some reason.
I'll be searching all the for sale ads I can find.
How do you post pictures? I built a model of Featherwind that I'd
like to share a picture of with you. It turned out pretty good, I
believe.
Thanks again,
Jerry
different experiences you've had.
I plan to build a boat someday, but learning to sail comes first.
I've sailed a little bit and took a Red Cross sailing class a long
time ago. A college roommate had a Hobi 14 and I went with him
fairly often until he got a girlfriend. He liked her as crew more
than me for some reason.
I'll be searching all the for sale ads I can find.
How do you post pictures? I built a model of Featherwind that I'd
like to share a picture of with you. It turned out pretty good, I
believe.
Thanks again,
Jerry
I thought someone mention not long ago a larger version of the Brick? Not
the Super version with the cabin and all, just a larger version of the
Brick. I looked but couldn't find the post. Was I dreaming, or does such a
beast exist?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hallman [mailto:bruce@...]
If you want to build a boat and do not
have 'hang ups' about looks. Consider
the Bolger Brick.
http://www.shortypen.com/boats/brick/
If you don't like the 'finish' work,
skip it. Ugly boats float fine.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
the Super version with the cabin and all, just a larger version of the
Brick. I looked but couldn't find the post. Was I dreaming, or does such a
beast exist?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hallman [mailto:bruce@...]
If you want to build a boat and do not
have 'hang ups' about looks. Consider
the Bolger Brick.
http://www.shortypen.com/boats/brick/
If you don't like the 'finish' work,
skip it. Ugly boats float fine.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Jerry - I bought a Featherwind from a friend (who introduced me to this group)and it works great for what you're asking for. I use a small trolling motor and get around very nicely when I'm not sailing.
Best of luck,
Jim
I've thought about building Dave Carnell's
$200 sailboat
Best of luck,
Jim
I've thought about building Dave Carnell's
$200 sailboat
----- Original Message -----
From: jerrych57
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:35 AM
Subject: [bolger] Looking for a sail/row boat
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
ah but on the other hand i build a bolger teal some 20 years ago, out
of salvaged ply that was weatherd , salvaged 2x4's. i treated the boat
after construction with terpintine a few times, then i thinned down
some non marine paint and let it soak that in binding the fibers down,
sanded vigerously and put on a few coats sanding , i got a smoth
surface, and did i mention that no glass was used anywear on the boat,
that boat sat out side up side down for 5 years in humbolt county, the
got put up in the boat shed's rafters and is still there the shed is
open to the elements , its still there and its still sailible, needs
paint!!
however i did see some boats and trailers on craigslist. for good
prices!!
and my point?
you can make a boat with out going broke
of salvaged ply that was weatherd , salvaged 2x4's. i treated the boat
after construction with terpintine a few times, then i thinned down
some non marine paint and let it soak that in binding the fibers down,
sanded vigerously and put on a few coats sanding , i got a smoth
surface, and did i mention that no glass was used anywear on the boat,
that boat sat out side up side down for 5 years in humbolt county, the
got put up in the boat shed's rafters and is still there the shed is
open to the elements , its still there and its still sailible, needs
paint!!
however i did see some boats and trailers on craigslist. for good
prices!!
and my point?
you can make a boat with out going broke
On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 09:51 AM, Rob Mouradian wrote:
>
> I'd second what Bruce said. Building a boat is more work and takes
> longer than you might expect. If you don't really enjoy it, or if
> you are in a rush to get sailing, I think you are better off buying a
> used boat. Also, if you are like me, you will end up spending more
> than expected on the boat you build. Marine paint, epoxy, brass
> hardware, marine plywood, tools and so on all add up.
>
> If I were starting over, I would buy a boat first, and then think
> about building the boat you really want later. You can sail when the
> weather is good and build when you aren't sailing.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > > I'd like some advice on how to find a boat.
> >
> > Don't build a boat unless you enjoy
> > building boats! Much better is to
> > buy a used boat. In the San Francisco
> > Bay Area I think that lots of super
> > bargains come up on the 'for sale'
> > advertisments at www.craigslist.org.
> >
> > Search for 'boat'.
> >
> > If you want to build a boat and do not
> > have 'hang ups' about looks. Consider
> > the Bolger Brick.
> >
> >http://www.shortypen.com/boats/brick/
> >
> > If you don't like the 'finish' work,
> > skip it. Ugly boats float fine.
>
>
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>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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Jerry, I would definitely hie thee down to the your local community or
yacht club or other sailing organization that has a training program.
They go through cycles of getting new 14-16 foot boats to keep their
fleet up to snuff. And they will usually sell the old ones very
reasonably, first come best served. -Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: jerrych57 [mailto:churchj@...]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:35
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Looking for a sail/row boat
Hello All,
This is a copy of a post I put on Duckworks new Yahoo forum:
I've been quietly hanging around the on-line "waterfront" for many
months now. This is the first time I've put my toe in the water, so
to speak. I'd like some advice on how to find a boat. Cheaper is
better, it'll get banged around some until I refine my skills.
I stopped in at the local sailboat / kayak store "Wind Toys" and got
sticker shock right away. I've thought about building Dave Carnell's
$200 sailboat, but time is tight and it would never get finished. I
started a model of it. The part I really don't like fussing with is
the finish work.
I've got nearly every Saturday free to spend with 2 of my kids and
I'd like to learn to sail with them. I also think we'd spend some
time fishing if we were to get close enough to the water on a semi-
frequent basis, so rowing ability or use of a small outboard would
be a real plus. I know we all like to fish, we're just not very good
at it. The best part is being away from the phones and pressing
issues, etc.
Where would you look for a used 14' - 16' sailing skiff or something
similar that is easy to sail and stable enough for 4 people (2
adults and 2 kids). I'd like to be able to row it, or attach a
trolling motor to it. Most boats that sail and row seem to be the
homebuild type. Is there a resource where these are frequently
listed for sale?
I'm in California, about 50 miles north of San Francisco. I'd need a
light boat that can be pulled with a 4-cylinder car or pickup.
Thanks for your help.
--Jerry
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yacht club or other sailing organization that has a training program.
They go through cycles of getting new 14-16 foot boats to keep their
fleet up to snuff. And they will usually sell the old ones very
reasonably, first come best served. -Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: jerrych57 [mailto:churchj@...]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:35
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Looking for a sail/row boat
Hello All,
This is a copy of a post I put on Duckworks new Yahoo forum:
I've been quietly hanging around the on-line "waterfront" for many
months now. This is the first time I've put my toe in the water, so
to speak. I'd like some advice on how to find a boat. Cheaper is
better, it'll get banged around some until I refine my skills.
I stopped in at the local sailboat / kayak store "Wind Toys" and got
sticker shock right away. I've thought about building Dave Carnell's
$200 sailboat, but time is tight and it would never get finished. I
started a model of it. The part I really don't like fussing with is
the finish work.
I've got nearly every Saturday free to spend with 2 of my kids and
I'd like to learn to sail with them. I also think we'd spend some
time fishing if we were to get close enough to the water on a semi-
frequent basis, so rowing ability or use of a small outboard would
be a real plus. I know we all like to fish, we're just not very good
at it. The best part is being away from the phones and pressing
issues, etc.
Where would you look for a used 14' - 16' sailing skiff or something
similar that is easy to sail and stable enough for 4 people (2
adults and 2 kids). I'd like to be able to row it, or attach a
trolling motor to it. Most boats that sail and row seem to be the
homebuild type. Is there a resource where these are frequently
listed for sale?
I'm in California, about 50 miles north of San Francisco. I'd need a
light boat that can be pulled with a 4-cylinder car or pickup.
Thanks for your help.
--Jerry
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I'd second what Bruce said. Building a boat is more work and takes
longer than you might expect. If you don't really enjoy it, or if
you are in a rush to get sailing, I think you are better off buying a
used boat. Also, if you are like me, you will end up spending more
than expected on the boat you build. Marine paint, epoxy, brass
hardware, marine plywood, tools and so on all add up.
If I were starting over, I would buy a boat first, and then think
about building the boat you really want later. You can sail when the
weather is good and build when you aren't sailing.
Good luck,
Rob
longer than you might expect. If you don't really enjoy it, or if
you are in a rush to get sailing, I think you are better off buying a
used boat. Also, if you are like me, you will end up spending more
than expected on the boat you build. Marine paint, epoxy, brass
hardware, marine plywood, tools and so on all add up.
If I were starting over, I would buy a boat first, and then think
about building the boat you really want later. You can sail when the
weather is good and build when you aren't sailing.
Good luck,
Rob
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > I'd like some advice on how to find a boat.
>
> Don't build a boat unless you enjoy
> building boats! Much better is to
> buy a used boat. In the San Francisco
> Bay Area I think that lots of super
> bargains come up on the 'for sale'
> advertisments at www.craigslist.org.
>
> Search for 'boat'.
>
> If you want to build a boat and do not
> have 'hang ups' about looks. Consider
> the Bolger Brick.
>
>http://www.shortypen.com/boats/brick/
>
> If you don't like the 'finish' work,
> skip it. Ugly boats float fine.
> I'd like some advice on how to find a boat.Don't build a boat unless you enjoy
building boats! Much better is to
buy a used boat. In the San Francisco
Bay Area I think that lots of super
bargains come up on the 'for sale'
advertisments at www.craigslist.org.
Search for 'boat'.
If you want to build a boat and do not
have 'hang ups' about looks. Consider
the Bolger Brick.
http://www.shortypen.com/boats/brick/
If you don't like the 'finish' work,
skip it. Ugly boats float fine.
Hello All,
This is a copy of a post I put on Duckworks new Yahoo forum:
I've been quietly hanging around the on-line "waterfront" for many
months now. This is the first time I've put my toe in the water, so
to speak. I'd like some advice on how to find a boat. Cheaper is
better, it'll get banged around some until I refine my skills.
I stopped in at the local sailboat / kayak store "Wind Toys" and got
sticker shock right away. I've thought about building Dave Carnell's
$200 sailboat, but time is tight and it would never get finished. I
started a model of it. The part I really don't like fussing with is
the finish work.
I've got nearly every Saturday free to spend with 2 of my kids and
I'd like to learn to sail with them. I also think we'd spend some
time fishing if we were to get close enough to the water on a semi-
frequent basis, so rowing ability or use of a small outboard would
be a real plus. I know we all like to fish, we're just not very good
at it. The best part is being away from the phones and pressing
issues, etc.
Where would you look for a used 14' - 16' sailing skiff or something
similar that is easy to sail and stable enough for 4 people (2
adults and 2 kids). I'd like to be able to row it, or attach a
trolling motor to it. Most boats that sail and row seem to be the
homebuild type. Is there a resource where these are frequently
listed for sale?
I'm in California, about 50 miles north of San Francisco. I'd need a
light boat that can be pulled with a 4-cylinder car or pickup.
Thanks for your help.
--Jerry
This is a copy of a post I put on Duckworks new Yahoo forum:
I've been quietly hanging around the on-line "waterfront" for many
months now. This is the first time I've put my toe in the water, so
to speak. I'd like some advice on how to find a boat. Cheaper is
better, it'll get banged around some until I refine my skills.
I stopped in at the local sailboat / kayak store "Wind Toys" and got
sticker shock right away. I've thought about building Dave Carnell's
$200 sailboat, but time is tight and it would never get finished. I
started a model of it. The part I really don't like fussing with is
the finish work.
I've got nearly every Saturday free to spend with 2 of my kids and
I'd like to learn to sail with them. I also think we'd spend some
time fishing if we were to get close enough to the water on a semi-
frequent basis, so rowing ability or use of a small outboard would
be a real plus. I know we all like to fish, we're just not very good
at it. The best part is being away from the phones and pressing
issues, etc.
Where would you look for a used 14' - 16' sailing skiff or something
similar that is easy to sail and stable enough for 4 people (2
adults and 2 kids). I'd like to be able to row it, or attach a
trolling motor to it. Most boats that sail and row seem to be the
homebuild type. Is there a resource where these are frequently
listed for sale?
I'm in California, about 50 miles north of San Francisco. I'd need a
light boat that can be pulled with a 4-cylinder car or pickup.
Thanks for your help.
--Jerry