Re: [bolger] Re: woods
The Lee Valley reprints are good quality books too. I ordered The Yankee
Whaler from them, expecting a fuzzy "facsimile" reprint, since they only
wanted something like $15 for it. When it came I was pleasantly surprised to
find a heavy, well bound hardback with high quality paper and crisp, glossy
illustrations (most of the book). It was better than the original! I think
they must be doing the reprints as a labor of love, and leaving the money
making to their tool business.
Whaler from them, expecting a fuzzy "facsimile" reprint, since they only
wanted something like $15 for it. When it came I was pleasantly surprised to
find a heavy, well bound hardback with high quality paper and crisp, glossy
illustrations (most of the book). It was better than the original! I think
they must be doing the reprints as a labor of love, and leaving the money
making to their tool business.
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:10:19 -0000, Bob Chamberland wrote:
> -Hi Roger, The GPO price for the wood handbook is $50US or
> $70overseas. Lee Valley price sure is a bargain. I consider the Wood
> Handbook as a basic reference for any kind of building and at $22.95 I
> think I'll replace my 50 year old edition.
--
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-Hi Roger, The GPO price for the wood handbook is $50US or
$70overseas. Lee Valley price sure is a bargain. I consider the Wood
Handbook as a basic reference for any kind of building and at $22.95 I
think I'll replace my 50 year old edition.
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@s...> wrote:
$70overseas. Lee Valley price sure is a bargain. I consider the Wood
Handbook as a basic reference for any kind of building and at $22.95 I
think I'll replace my 50 year old edition.
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@s...> wrote:
> Lee Valley has two excellent books which discuss wood and itsForest
> characteristics.
>http://www.leevalley.com/home/main.asp
>
> "Wood Handbook - Wood as an Engineering Material" Published by the
> Products Laboratory of USDA since the 1930s, it is revised, enlarged andupdate.
> updated every 10 to 15 years. This is the latest version, the 1999
> $22.95at the
>
> "Understanding Wood" by R. Bruce Hoadley $29.95
>
> I'd been looking for the first one for years. It sells out quickly
> government printing office.go from
>
> The second is quite readable. Both have lots of illustrations and
> quite basic to great depth.must have
>
> Sitka spruce comes in many flavors. The stuff for aircraft spars
> about 7 rings per inch (if I remember right). The constructiongrade you
> find at your local lumber yard is not as good and has many small knots.
> With epoxy one can work around this, but you still don't have its famed
> strength/weight ratio unless you can find the slow growth stuff which
> commands a premium price.
>
> Roger
> derbyrm@s...
>http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Chamberland" <cha62759@t...>
>
>
> > Hi Kris, Sitka spruce is the premium wood for spars but expensive and
> > not widely available.
> >
> > You might want to do some basic research. Check
> >http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm
> > This is an expensive US Forest Service publication but available at
> > the above web address.
> > The rest of the question is too general. The wood that you can use
> > safely depends on the type and quality of construction you are going
> > use. Epoxy encapsulation allows you to use many woods that normally
> > would not be good for boat construction.
> > Bob Chamberland
Lee Valley has two excellent books which discuss wood and its
characteristics.
http://www.leevalley.com/home/main.asp
"Wood Handbook - Wood as an Engineering Material" Published by the Forest
Products Laboratory of USDA since the 1930s, it is revised, enlarged and
updated every 10 to 15 years. This is the latest version, the 1999 update.
$22.95
"Understanding Wood" by R. Bruce Hoadley $29.95
I'd been looking for the first one for years. It sells out quickly at the
government printing office.
The second is quite readable. Both have lots of illustrations and go from
quite basic to great depth.
Sitka spruce comes in many flavors. The stuff for aircraft spars must have
about 7 rings per inch (if I remember right). The construction grade you
find at your local lumber yard is not as good and has many small knots.
With epoxy one can work around this, but you still don't have its famed
strength/weight ratio unless you can find the slow growth stuff which
commands a premium price.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
characteristics.
http://www.leevalley.com/home/main.asp
"Wood Handbook - Wood as an Engineering Material" Published by the Forest
Products Laboratory of USDA since the 1930s, it is revised, enlarged and
updated every 10 to 15 years. This is the latest version, the 1999 update.
$22.95
"Understanding Wood" by R. Bruce Hoadley $29.95
I'd been looking for the first one for years. It sells out quickly at the
government printing office.
The second is quite readable. Both have lots of illustrations and go from
quite basic to great depth.
Sitka spruce comes in many flavors. The stuff for aircraft spars must have
about 7 rings per inch (if I remember right). The construction grade you
find at your local lumber yard is not as good and has many small knots.
With epoxy one can work around this, but you still don't have its famed
strength/weight ratio unless you can find the slow growth stuff which
commands a premium price.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Chamberland" <cha62759@...>
> Hi Kris, Sitka spruce is the premium wood for spars but expensive and
> not widely available.
>
> You might want to do some basic research. Check
>http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm
> This is an expensive US Forest Service publication but available at
> the above web address.
> The rest of the question is too general. The wood that you can use
> safely depends on the type and quality of construction you are going
> use. Epoxy encapsulation allows you to use many woods that normally
> would not be good for boat construction.
> Bob Chamberland
thank you bob,
i have found that by dipping one toe into boat construction i have an
ever increasing amount of questions
i have found that by dipping one toe into boat construction i have an
ever increasing amount of questions
On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 08:22 AM, Bob Chamberland wrote:
> Hi Kris, Sitka spruce is the premium wood for spars but expensive and
> not widely available.
>
> You might want to do some basic research. Check
>http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm
> This is an expensive US Forest Service publication but available at
> the above web address.
> The rest of the question is too general. The wood that you can use
> safely depends on the type and quality of construction you are going
> use. Epoxy encapsulation allows you to use many woods that normally
> would not be good for boat construction.
> Bob Chamberland
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, kris nordby <bonsii@s...> wrote:
> >
> > what kind of spruce is used in boat work. i was trying to read about
> > woods online and found that there is lots of diferent typse of
> spruce.
> > and what other woods are good for boats ?
> >
> > kris
>
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Hi Kris, Sitka spruce is the premium wood for spars but expensive and
not widely available.
You might want to do some basic research. Check
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm
This is an expensive US Forest Service publication but available at
the above web address.
The rest of the question is too general. The wood that you can use
safely depends on the type and quality of construction you are going
use. Epoxy encapsulation allows you to use many woods that normally
would not be good for boat construction.
Bob Chamberland
not widely available.
You might want to do some basic research. Check
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm
This is an expensive US Forest Service publication but available at
the above web address.
The rest of the question is too general. The wood that you can use
safely depends on the type and quality of construction you are going
use. Epoxy encapsulation allows you to use many woods that normally
would not be good for boat construction.
Bob Chamberland
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, kris nordby <bonsii@s...> wrote:
>
> what kind of spruce is used in boat work. i was trying to read about
> woods online and found that there is lots of diferent typse of spruce.
> and what other woods are good for boats ?
>
> kris
what kind of spruce is used in boat work. i was trying to read about
woods online and found that there is lots of diferent typse of spruce.
and what other woods are good for boats ?
kris
woods online and found that there is lots of diferent typse of spruce.
and what other woods are good for boats ?
kris
My pitifully slow process on building a (model of) Chebacco can be seen at
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net/Chebacco.html
I'm guessing the full scale boat will go faster.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net/Chebacco.html
I'm guessing the full scale boat will go faster.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net