[bolger] Re: Yellow Leaf & Catfish
Matthew,
Very nice boats - good work. And a nice web site.
I am glad I got to see a Yellow Leaf canoe and a Catfish. The Yellow
Leaf looks like it will fit the bill for the next boat, a low-resource
"get it out quick" boat. Congratulations !
And please relay my congrats to John Tuma.
Why no response earlier? Let me attempt to answer: randomness of the
universe? Because this is a leap year falling on a year divisible by
400 and 1000 causing some inflation in our expectations? Or maybe just
some contrary group dynamics and we thought that responsibility was
assigned to someone else in the Bolger group.
I enjoy this group.
Phil Lea
Russellville, Arkansas
On a long stint of night shifts and overtime, painting finish coats on
ShoeString through the night on a night off -- at 60 degrees F.
"matthew long" <owlnmol-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3241
Very nice boats - good work. And a nice web site.
I am glad I got to see a Yellow Leaf canoe and a Catfish. The Yellow
Leaf looks like it will fit the bill for the next boat, a low-resource
"get it out quick" boat. Congratulations !
And please relay my congrats to John Tuma.
Why no response earlier? Let me attempt to answer: randomness of the
universe? Because this is a leap year falling on a year divisible by
400 and 1000 causing some inflation in our expectations? Or maybe just
some contrary group dynamics and we thought that responsibility was
assigned to someone else in the Bolger group.
I enjoy this group.
Phil Lea
Russellville, Arkansas
On a long stint of night shifts and overtime, painting finish coats on
ShoeString through the night on a night off -- at 60 degrees F.
"matthew long" <owlnmol-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3241
> My Brick site has been revised with a new Resources section and a
> Yellow Leaf page:http://www.gis.net/~owlnmole/Pages/molehome.html
>
> I posted several photos of John Tuma's Catfish Beachcruiser to the
> vault, along with John's and Dynamite Payson's comments.
>
> feedback?
> Matthew
KF4call@...wrote:
IF one built a Catfish as designed with the open interior, the coaming
would be right about head height. I am 5'11" tall, and I couldn't sit
under the side decks without scrunching. I put in bench seats at the
same height as the lazarette, and that seemed to work pretty well. The
coaming went right across the middle of my back. Higher seats would have
been more comfortable (they were about 10 inches above the cabin sole),
but would have precluded laying on the bench under the deck.
The Catfish was an interesting boat to sail, and not at all like the
fin-keeled sloops to which I am most accustomed. It is quite fast, even
on the wind, but it doesn't go to windward that well. A dagger board
would help, but the added complexity is probably not worth it. Off the
wind the Catfish screams. Except in big following seas with that long
boom--then I was the one doing the screaming. The boat is quite light,
and it surfs pretty well in waves. I often found myself going downwind
faster than much larger boats, especially in smooth water and light
winds. The Catfish has a narrow waterline beam, so it accelerates
readily with each little puff.
With the deck stringer run under the decks (rather than on top as shown
on the plans), I generally found that the best place to sit was out on
the side deck with my feet resting on the benches in the cockpit.
Coudn't do this in very light winds upwind though (induced too much
heel), but off the wind with the boom out I often sat out on the decks
to create more clearance between the boom end and the water. Dangerous
spot in an accidental jibe. Most of the time, I preferred to stand while
sailing the boat. It is a very stable platform, and standing seemed a
natural way to sail it.
John Tuma
>Warren and all,
> Matthew and all;
> I have sure enjoyed the few pictures of Catfish. . . If one was sitting in the cabin, how high up on the sides
> would your head be? Regards, Warren
IF one built a Catfish as designed with the open interior, the coaming
would be right about head height. I am 5'11" tall, and I couldn't sit
under the side decks without scrunching. I put in bench seats at the
same height as the lazarette, and that seemed to work pretty well. The
coaming went right across the middle of my back. Higher seats would have
been more comfortable (they were about 10 inches above the cabin sole),
but would have precluded laying on the bench under the deck.
The Catfish was an interesting boat to sail, and not at all like the
fin-keeled sloops to which I am most accustomed. It is quite fast, even
on the wind, but it doesn't go to windward that well. A dagger board
would help, but the added complexity is probably not worth it. Off the
wind the Catfish screams. Except in big following seas with that long
boom--then I was the one doing the screaming. The boat is quite light,
and it surfs pretty well in waves. I often found myself going downwind
faster than much larger boats, especially in smooth water and light
winds. The Catfish has a narrow waterline beam, so it accelerates
readily with each little puff.
With the deck stringer run under the decks (rather than on top as shown
on the plans), I generally found that the best place to sit was out on
the side deck with my feet resting on the benches in the cockpit.
Coudn't do this in very light winds upwind though (induced too much
heel), but off the wind with the boom out I often sat out on the decks
to create more clearance between the boom end and the water. Dangerous
spot in an accidental jibe. Most of the time, I preferred to stand while
sailing the boat. It is a very stable platform, and standing seemed a
natural way to sail it.
John Tuma
There was an article on Dobler in a recent BOATBUILDER. Most of his boats
are tack-and tape, including I believe, the Utility Skiff. It looks like it
may be a bit more complex than "Gypsy", but not much. Dobler died recently
(past 90!), and his widow has not announced disposition of his work.
Apparently Dobler was not moved to detailed documentation and few plans were
in good order at his death. This article and Jones' chapter on Dobler are
uniformly complimentary - if I wanted a spacious daysailer, I would start by
looking for the Dobler plans.
Don Hodges
are tack-and tape, including I believe, the Utility Skiff. It looks like it
may be a bit more complex than "Gypsy", but not much. Dobler died recently
(past 90!), and his widow has not announced disposition of his work.
Apparently Dobler was not moved to detailed documentation and few plans were
in good order at his death. This article and Jones' chapter on Dobler are
uniformly complimentary - if I wanted a spacious daysailer, I would start by
looking for the Dobler plans.
Don Hodges
> I' am going to stray way-way off the reservation now - but I'd suggesttaking
> a look at Joseph C. Dobler's "16' X 5'2" Utility Skiff" as pictured and
> described in Thomas Firth Jones' "Low-Resistance Boats", International
> Marine, 1992, pp.65-72.
Mike, your comments are actually true.
Remember however that you're trying some pretty "avant-garde" type stuff on
your Windsprint. Many of us will be happy when the @#$^%& boat is actually
out sailing with the rig as designed.
Craig O'donnell seems to be the dean of sail experimentation and bamboo.
His site is full interesting info regarding some of the stuff you're trying
to do-ditto Jim Michalak and some of his rig swapping in his smaller boats.
Franking, when describing a sailboat part, direction of travel etc.,
everyone describes things maybe just a little differently, based on where
they grew up and where they learned to talk boat. I've always equated it to
fishing-when I moved to Florida I was using what appeared to be the same
baitfish I used in SC; except everyone here had differnet names for
them....
Robert & Amy Lundy
St. Petersburg, fla.
robert@...
amy@...
Remember however that you're trying some pretty "avant-garde" type stuff on
your Windsprint. Many of us will be happy when the @#$^%& boat is actually
out sailing with the rig as designed.
Craig O'donnell seems to be the dean of sail experimentation and bamboo.
His site is full interesting info regarding some of the stuff you're trying
to do-ditto Jim Michalak and some of his rig swapping in his smaller boats.
Franking, when describing a sailboat part, direction of travel etc.,
everyone describes things maybe just a little differently, based on where
they grew up and where they learned to talk boat. I've always equated it to
fishing-when I moved to Florida I was using what appeared to be the same
baitfish I used in SC; except everyone here had differnet names for
them....
Robert & Amy Lundy
St. Petersburg, fla.
robert@...
amy@...
> -----Original Message-----
> From:Teakdeck@...[mailto:Teakdeck@...]
> Sent: February 29, 2000 8:07 AM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Yellow Leaf & Catfish
>
>
> Thanks for posting the pictures of Catfish. Very interesting
> boat. I do have
> one comment regarding postings and responses:
>
> There seems to be an unspoken bias in this group toward the
> building of boats
> as opposed to the sailing of boats. I have posted a number of e-mails
> regarding the sailing of Bolger boats to an almost totally unresponsive
> audience. Even the catfish info was mostly about building and very little
> info if any on how the boat sailed.
>
> I personally find both topics, building and sailing, to be
> fascinating but I
> am apparently in the minority.
>
> Mike Masten
>
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> I have looked at Bobcat, not in person, but on the web. I have alsomy
> read the Payson book on the Bobcat. It looks like a great design but
> fear is that the boat is too small to comfortably sail with four onA load of four adults suggests a boat of at least 14 feet to me. Even
> board.
that is pretty short.
I was thinking of suggesting the Bolger Sparkler. It was designed to
have Lightning-like elegance and is big enough. It was drawn without
bench seats and you would have to check carefully to see if they could
be fitted and still leave foot room.
If you strongly value a compact boat, you might think of a pram bow.
See the Caravelle at www.bateau.com.
And then there is the Featherwind/$200 sailboat which could be quite
attractive with a fancy finish. An Jim Michalaks' designs....
Peter
I have looked at Bobcat, not in person, but on the web. I have also
read the Payson book on the Bobcat. It looks like a great design but my
fear is that the boat is too small to comfortably sail with four on
board. All the pictures I've seen of it actually sailing have only one
or two on board. I am looking for some sort of bench seating along the
length of the cockpit. My previous boat was a 14' Sears Surfwind (made
by O'Day) only offered wet seating eithr on the floor or (mainly) on
the the topsides to manage heel.
----- Steve Heil
"chuck leinweber" <chuc-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3259
read the Payson book on the Bobcat. It looks like a great design but my
fear is that the boat is too small to comfortably sail with four on
board. All the pictures I've seen of it actually sailing have only one
or two on board. I am looking for some sort of bench seating along the
length of the cockpit. My previous boat was a 14' Sears Surfwind (made
by O'Day) only offered wet seating eithr on the floor or (mainly) on
the the topsides to manage heel.
----- Steve Heil
"chuck leinweber" <chuc-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3259
> > I've looked at Oldshoe and Micro but I think the Catfish is muchnicer
> > looking and I'd rather not deal with the weight and traileringhassels
> > of the lead keel. I guess what I'm looking for is the equivelent ofa
> > Haven 12-1/2 look above the waterline and ease of construction along
> > the lines of the Catfish. Anyone have the answer, or a close
> > approximation, to my dream???
>
> Stephen:
>
> Have you looked at Bolger's Bobcat?
>http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg/articles/folly/index.htm
>
>
> Chuck Leinweber
> Duckworks Magazine
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com
>
>
>
Hello Mike Masten,
You are correct in your observation that there is more discussion
about building then sailing within this group.I suspect this may,in
part,be due to the distinctly different nature of the two
activities.That is,this medium affords you the luxury of tabling
questions about different designs especially just how easy/difficult
they may be to build and how much they may cost.Furthermore,considering
that we are amateurs and often making budget sacrifices to acquire a
boat(not to mention the glacial pace we sometimes achieve in the
building process :D ) there is rarely a pressing need to know toute
suite how to do something.
Sailing,however,may not be the sort of thing that lends itself
well to casual discussion within a forum.It falls,perhaps,more into the
"you had to be there" food group.
In the end,whether or not you are sailing a degree or two closer
to the wind and squeezing out an extra fraction of a knot on your way
around the lake comes down to personal foibles.Besides,most of these
Bolger designs are somewhat unique and cannot be easily or fairly
compared to most conventional production boats.
But,if your boat leaks,sits all cock-eyed in the water,weighs
twice the designed displacement or simply does not"work",well now,isn`t
it comforting to know that apart from the local brasserie(pub?) we have
this wonderful place to come to for help,however late it may be?
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,almost delirious from four consecutive days of above
freezing weather,watching the snow melting on the soon to be ice-free
shores of the St.Lawrence......
teakdec-@...wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3262
You are correct in your observation that there is more discussion
about building then sailing within this group.I suspect this may,in
part,be due to the distinctly different nature of the two
activities.That is,this medium affords you the luxury of tabling
questions about different designs especially just how easy/difficult
they may be to build and how much they may cost.Furthermore,considering
that we are amateurs and often making budget sacrifices to acquire a
boat(not to mention the glacial pace we sometimes achieve in the
building process :D ) there is rarely a pressing need to know toute
suite how to do something.
Sailing,however,may not be the sort of thing that lends itself
well to casual discussion within a forum.It falls,perhaps,more into the
"you had to be there" food group.
In the end,whether or not you are sailing a degree or two closer
to the wind and squeezing out an extra fraction of a knot on your way
around the lake comes down to personal foibles.Besides,most of these
Bolger designs are somewhat unique and cannot be easily or fairly
compared to most conventional production boats.
But,if your boat leaks,sits all cock-eyed in the water,weighs
twice the designed displacement or simply does not"work",well now,isn`t
it comforting to know that apart from the local brasserie(pub?) we have
this wonderful place to come to for help,however late it may be?
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,almost delirious from four consecutive days of above
freezing weather,watching the snow melting on the soon to be ice-free
shores of the St.Lawrence......
teakdec-@...wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3262
> Thanks for posting the pictures of Catfish. Very interesting boat. Ido have
> one comment regarding postings and responses:of boats
>
> There seems to be an unspoken bias in this group toward the building
> as opposed to the sailing of boats. I have posted a number of e-mailsunresponsive
> regarding the sailing of Bolger boats to an almost totally
> audience. Even the catfish info was mostly about building and verylittle
> info if any on how the boat sailed.fascinating but I
>
> I personally find both topics, building and sailing, to be
> am apparently in the minority.
>
> Mike Masten
I think the bias you're talking about reflects the actual distribution
of time. If you're going to build something beyond a Teal or a Brick,
and maybe even more than one, you have to like building at least as
well as, or maybe more than, sailing. Certainly, if this is not the
case it makes it dificult. I think I like HAVING ALREADY built much
more than building, but I am a very slow builder. Still get some
enjoyment, tho.
I was going to participate in the rig ranting, but realised I only had
about 30 minutes with an "unconventional" rig. It was a leg o mutton
sprit (if I have my terms right). Very convenient and easy to handle.
Bamboo boom was very nice as it could slam me in the head with about
the impact of a ping pong ball, plus it was easy to duck since it was
higher up. Especially liked the fact that it was its own vang.
teakdec-@...wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3262
of time. If you're going to build something beyond a Teal or a Brick,
and maybe even more than one, you have to like building at least as
well as, or maybe more than, sailing. Certainly, if this is not the
case it makes it dificult. I think I like HAVING ALREADY built much
more than building, but I am a very slow builder. Still get some
enjoyment, tho.
I was going to participate in the rig ranting, but realised I only had
about 30 minutes with an "unconventional" rig. It was a leg o mutton
sprit (if I have my terms right). Very convenient and easy to handle.
Bamboo boom was very nice as it could slam me in the head with about
the impact of a ping pong ball, plus it was easy to duck since it was
higher up. Especially liked the fact that it was its own vang.
teakdec-@...wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3262
> snipof boats
>
> There seems to be an unspoken bias in this group toward the building
> as opposed to the sailing of boats. snip
>
> Mike Masten
>You are mistaken. The bias in this group is toward *talking* about
>There seems to be an unspoken bias in this group toward the building of boats
>as opposed to the sailing of boats.
building boats. Building and sailing require overcoming far too much
inertia.
David Ryan
Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296
Thanks for posting the pictures of Catfish. Very interesting boat. I do have
one comment regarding postings and responses:
There seems to be an unspoken bias in this group toward the building of boats
as opposed to the sailing of boats. I have posted a number of e-mails
regarding the sailing of Bolger boats to an almost totally unresponsive
audience. Even the catfish info was mostly about building and very little
info if any on how the boat sailed.
I personally find both topics, building and sailing, to be fascinating but I
am apparently in the minority.
Mike Masten
one comment regarding postings and responses:
There seems to be an unspoken bias in this group toward the building of boats
as opposed to the sailing of boats. I have posted a number of e-mails
regarding the sailing of Bolger boats to an almost totally unresponsive
audience. Even the catfish info was mostly about building and very little
info if any on how the boat sailed.
I personally find both topics, building and sailing, to be fascinating but I
am apparently in the minority.
Mike Masten
Stephen wrote: " My primary expected use would be as a daysailer for my wife,
two daughters (9 & 5, both excellent swimmers)and myself. The capacity to
bring a
guest or two would be nice as well but I don't want anything too big to
single-hand comfortably."
I' am going to stray way-way off the reservation now - but I'd suggest taking
a look at Joseph C. Dobler's "16' X 5'2" Utility Skiff" as pictured and
described in Thomas Firth Jones' "Low-Resistance Boats", International
Marine, 1992, pp.65-72. Despite its radically prosaic name it is a
commodious, open daysailer built of sheet ply with convenient storage for
odds and ends under the stern sheets and small deck and acres of seating at a
dry and comfortable height. Jones practically raves about it. I once had Mr.
Dobler's address and a catalog of plans, but both seem to have gone missing,
so I have no idea where one can get plans for it. Jones does not discuss
construction, but I suspect that lofting, erection of a strong-back and all
that would be required - not something I think I would be comfortable
tackling with my negligible experience (one cedar strip canoe). I might be
tempted to have one professionally built some time, though. It doesn't have
the "what's that?" factor, but its a design I keep coming back to and
admiring. Hope I don't get excommunicated for this posting!
two daughters (9 & 5, both excellent swimmers)and myself. The capacity to
bring a
guest or two would be nice as well but I don't want anything too big to
single-hand comfortably."
I' am going to stray way-way off the reservation now - but I'd suggest taking
a look at Joseph C. Dobler's "16' X 5'2" Utility Skiff" as pictured and
described in Thomas Firth Jones' "Low-Resistance Boats", International
Marine, 1992, pp.65-72. Despite its radically prosaic name it is a
commodious, open daysailer built of sheet ply with convenient storage for
odds and ends under the stern sheets and small deck and acres of seating at a
dry and comfortable height. Jones practically raves about it. I once had Mr.
Dobler's address and a catalog of plans, but both seem to have gone missing,
so I have no idea where one can get plans for it. Jones does not discuss
construction, but I suspect that lofting, erection of a strong-back and all
that would be required - not something I think I would be comfortable
tackling with my negligible experience (one cedar strip canoe). I might be
tempted to have one professionally built some time, though. It doesn't have
the "what's that?" factor, but its a design I keep coming back to and
admiring. Hope I don't get excommunicated for this posting!
Matthew and all;
I have sure enjoyed the few pictures of Catfish I have had time to
download. However, with my almost-antique computer (486sx) and
underacheiver modem, the system usually crashes before I get to see the
larger files. Thanks for taking the time to put them up. It is a very
appealing boat. If one was sitting in the cabin, how high up on the sides
would your head be? Regards, Warren
I have sure enjoyed the few pictures of Catfish I have had time to
download. However, with my almost-antique computer (486sx) and
underacheiver modem, the system usually crashes before I get to see the
larger files. Thanks for taking the time to put them up. It is a very
appealing boat. If one was sitting in the cabin, how high up on the sides
would your head be? Regards, Warren
> I've looked at Oldshoe and Micro but I think the Catfish is much nicerStephen:
> looking and I'd rather not deal with the weight and trailering hassels
> of the lead keel. I guess what I'm looking for is the equivelent of a
> Haven 12-1/2 look above the waterline and ease of construction along
> the lines of the Catfish. Anyone have the answer, or a close
> approximation, to my dream???
Have you looked at Bolger's Bobcat?
http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg/articles/folly/index.htm
Chuck Leinweber
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com
"stepehn f. heil" <casahei-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3246
I guess what I'm looking for is the equivelent of a
Bolger has a "Plywood 12-1/2 in BwaOM". Or is that still too fancy?
I did look at the pictures in the vault of the catboat and the yellow
leaf, and enjoyed.
My computer at work crashed tonight just long enough to stop me from
going home at a reasonable hour and building for a little while. GRRRRR!
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3246
I guess what I'm looking for is the equivelent of a
> Haven 12-1/2 look above the waterline and ease of construction alongIsn't the Haven 12-1/2 supposed to be like the Hereshoff 12-1/2? If so,
> the lines of the Catfish. Anyone have the answer, or a close
> approximation, to my dream???
>
>
Bolger has a "Plywood 12-1/2 in BwaOM". Or is that still too fancy?
I did look at the pictures in the vault of the catboat and the yellow
leaf, and enjoyed.
My computer at work crashed tonight just long enough to stop me from
going home at a reasonable hour and building for a little while. GRRRRR!
>. I guess what I'm looking for is the equivelent of aHow about the Fancy design from the cover of 30 Odd Boats. Not in the
>Haven 12-1/2 look above the waterline and ease of construction along
>the lines of the Catfish. Anyone have the answer, or a close
>approximation, to my dream???
Herreshoff style, but a very pretty boat.
Peter
Thanks for posting the great photos of the Catfish. I just got a chance
to look at them today. I have been very interested in this design but
have not seen much information on it until your comprehensive post.
The Catfish looks to be almost the perfect size for my interests but
I'm not sure that the cabin design is best for my application. My
primary expected use would be as a daysailer for my wife, two daughters
(9 & 5, both excellent swimmers)and myself. The capacity to bring a
guest or two would be nice as well but I don't want anything too big to
single-hand comfortably. Has Bolger done anything like this (Catfish)
without the cabin???
I've looked at Oldshoe and Micro but I think the Catfish is much nicer
looking and I'd rather not deal with the weight and trailering hassels
of the lead keel. I guess what I'm looking for is the equivelent of a
Haven 12-1/2 look above the waterline and ease of construction along
the lines of the Catfish. Anyone have the answer, or a close
approximation, to my dream???
As an aside idea... has the been much consideration/discussion of
making a removable cabintop along the lines of a pickup truck cap? I
thought I remember seeing something like this in one of the drawings in
Ruel Parker's Sharpie Book. I'll have to go back a look at it again
tonight. This technique, if feasible, would provide for the
camp-cruising ability of the Catfist when desired without compromising
the wide-open cockpit I want for its primarily daysailing use. I looked
at Tim Weber's Scram Pram last summer when he was offering it at a
grerat price but did not feel it was close enough to my needs. I think
the Birdwatcher slot-top design is interesting any maybe optimal if
camp-cruising is a high priority, but it seems to compromise my overall
desire for open cockpit daysailing.
"matthew long" <owlnmol-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3241
to look at them today. I have been very interested in this design but
have not seen much information on it until your comprehensive post.
The Catfish looks to be almost the perfect size for my interests but
I'm not sure that the cabin design is best for my application. My
primary expected use would be as a daysailer for my wife, two daughters
(9 & 5, both excellent swimmers)and myself. The capacity to bring a
guest or two would be nice as well but I don't want anything too big to
single-hand comfortably. Has Bolger done anything like this (Catfish)
without the cabin???
I've looked at Oldshoe and Micro but I think the Catfish is much nicer
looking and I'd rather not deal with the weight and trailering hassels
of the lead keel. I guess what I'm looking for is the equivelent of a
Haven 12-1/2 look above the waterline and ease of construction along
the lines of the Catfish. Anyone have the answer, or a close
approximation, to my dream???
As an aside idea... has the been much consideration/discussion of
making a removable cabintop along the lines of a pickup truck cap? I
thought I remember seeing something like this in one of the drawings in
Ruel Parker's Sharpie Book. I'll have to go back a look at it again
tonight. This technique, if feasible, would provide for the
camp-cruising ability of the Catfist when desired without compromising
the wide-open cockpit I want for its primarily daysailing use. I looked
at Tim Weber's Scram Pram last summer when he was offering it at a
grerat price but did not feel it was close enough to my needs. I think
the Birdwatcher slot-top design is interesting any maybe optimal if
camp-cruising is a high priority, but it seems to compromise my overall
desire for open cockpit daysailing.
"matthew long" <owlnmol-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3241
> Not to sound like the wallflower at the prom or anything, but I posted
> a couple of things to the group this weekend and haven't heard a peep!
>
> My Brick site has been revised with a new Resources section and a
> Yellow Leaf page:http://www.gis.net/~owlnmole/Pages/molehome.html
>
> I posted several photos of John Tuma's Catfish Beachcruiser to the
> vault, along with John's and Dynamite Payson's comments.
>
> Any feedback?
>
> <sniff> ;-)
>
> Matthew
>
> Not to sound like the wallflower at the prom or anything, but I postedI sympathize. I put up some pictures of my Cynthia J. and got zero
> a couple of things to the group this weekend and haven't heard a peep!
> <sniff> ;-)
>
response.
I looked at the Catfish pictures with great interest since it
represents an alternative to the Cynthia J. in many respects. It's a
very interesting boat with a lot of advantages as a beach cruiser.
On the other hand, for use as a general daysailor, a more conventional
arrangement might work better. Something along the lines of a bigger
sister to the Tiny Cat, to fill the gap between Tiny Cat and Chebacco.
The roomy cabin seems to compromise the daysailor function especially
with respect to seating. Even if you build in seats, the crew is
restricted to the middle of the boat, or to the rather high deck.
Of course, if your have small children, as I did when I had the Cynthia
J., the deep cabin is a plus.
With respect to lack of feedback, your posting was about the time that
our Group Admin requested us to avoid short 'atta boy' postings in
order to keep the total number of posts down. Blame it on him.
Peter in SW Connecticut where most of the ice in the ponds has melted.
Not to sound like the wallflower at the prom or anything, but I posted
a couple of things to the group this weekend and haven't heard a peep!
My Brick site has been revised with a new Resources section and a
Yellow Leaf page:http://www.gis.net/~owlnmole/Pages/molehome.html
I posted several photos of John Tuma's Catfish Beachcruiser to the
vault, along with John's and Dynamite Payson's comments.
Any feedback?
<sniff> ;-)
Matthew
a couple of things to the group this weekend and haven't heard a peep!
My Brick site has been revised with a new Resources section and a
Yellow Leaf page:http://www.gis.net/~owlnmole/Pages/molehome.html
I posted several photos of John Tuma's Catfish Beachcruiser to the
vault, along with John's and Dynamite Payson's comments.
Any feedback?
<sniff> ;-)
Matthew