Re:Re: I60 Wheel Wells/Launching
Not too long ago there was an article in SAIL Magazine about a boat
that has wheels, sort of like aircraft landing gear, that can be
lowered and used to winch the boat up out of the water. The
builder/designer uses it in high latitude artic regions for exploration.
Bob
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On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 06:58 AM,bolger@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
that has wheels, sort of like aircraft landing gear, that can be
lowered and used to winch the boat up out of the water. The
builder/designer uses it in high latitude artic regions for exploration.
Bob
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On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 06:58 AM,bolger@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:46 -0500
> From: "John Spoering" <spoering@...>
> Subject: Re: I60 Wheel Wells/Launching
>
> Hi All -
>
> Just as an aside to this thought of wheelwells - British
> multihull designer Derek Kelsell
>http://www.kelsall.com/has the design called AMCAT that has wheels
> permanantly built-in.
> As far as I can figure out the boat can be trailered for short
> distances on these wheels.
> Might be interesting for some I60 builders to look over.
>
> Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft
> Lauderdale, Fl
>
Hi All -
Just as an aside to this thought of wheelwells - British multihull designer Derek Kelsell
http://www.kelsall.com/has the design called AMCAT that has wheels permanantly built-in.
As far as I can figure out the boat can be trailered for short distances on these wheels.
Might be interesting for some I60 builders to look over.
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale, Fl
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Just as an aside to this thought of wheelwells - British multihull designer Derek Kelsell
http://www.kelsall.com/has the design called AMCAT that has wheels permanantly built-in.
As far as I can figure out the boat can be trailered for short distances on these wheels.
Might be interesting for some I60 builders to look over.
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale, Fl
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David:
"modern" design circa 1940. She looks like what a science fiction
author of fifty or sixty years ago might have imagined a boat built
in 2003 to look like. She'd look utterly stunning in gleaming
unpainted aluminum (and even more so with brass or copper accents
if there were a way to combine the metals without causing galvanic
trouble); I'm half-tempted to ask PCB about prospects for building
her that way.
My non-boat-building partner -- who has enjoyed going to Messabouts
and paddling Mouseboats and being rowed around the canal, but who
isn't a boat geek like us -- spent half an hour just staring at
the sail plan yesterday, and has been going on and on about how
beautiful the I60 is. Now we just need to solve the financial
end of it....
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> The only description of the look I can find is that she looksShe looks almost Art Deco to me, reminiscent of "futuristic" or
> like a schooner rigged starship; the most unlikely yet but beautiful
> combination of traditional maritime looks and modern lines I never
> could have imagined.
"modern" design circa 1940. She looks like what a science fiction
author of fifty or sixty years ago might have imagined a boat built
in 2003 to look like. She'd look utterly stunning in gleaming
unpainted aluminum (and even more so with brass or copper accents
if there were a way to combine the metals without causing galvanic
trouble); I'm half-tempted to ask PCB about prospects for building
her that way.
My non-boat-building partner -- who has enjoyed going to Messabouts
and paddling Mouseboats and being rowed around the canal, but who
isn't a boat geek like us -- spent half an hour just staring at
the sail plan yesterday, and has been going on and on about how
beautiful the I60 is. Now we just need to solve the financial
end of it....
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
FBBB,
It's a pity that neither Sue nor I have a scanner big enough to show
the you the drawings we got yesterday, because the boat really is a
wonder. The only description of the look I can find is that she looks
like a schooner rigged starship; the most unlikely yet but beautiful
combination of traditional maritime looks and modern lines I never
could have imagined. She is just so sleek, and carries such an
impressive sail plan that about all I can think about is how she'll
look knifing through the chop at 12+ knots.
But I will admit to being intimidated by the wheel wells. Who knows,
had this been a part of the pitch from the start, maybe I wouldn't
have bought in. But it's too late! Besides, the whole trailer thing
is icing on the cake for me, and whatever PCB has up his sleeve,
we'll find out soon enough. I think he feels enough affection about
this design to give it his best shot. In the mean time, come with me
to a small outport in Newfoundland and I'll tell you a story that
shows why I'm not really worried about launching the I60 anymore.
Take out a map of The Rock, and find the town of Port Aux Basque at
the very southwestern corner. That's where the ferry comes in from
North Sydney NS. Now let your eye travel East just a little down the
coast to Isle aux Morts (charming name, huh?) It was in Isle aux
Morts that we found a 40 foot sloop tied up at the town wharf. Since
we had just spent a few days in Burgeo (look a little further East)
and were already dreaming of future adventures on Newfoundland's
South coast, we couldn't help wonder: where they heading East? (In
which case we wanted to regale them with what little we had already
seen); or were they headed West? (In which case we wanted to quiz
them on all the many miles of uninhabited coast we were already
dreaming about.)
In fact, they were neither headed East nor West. They had crossed
over from Cape Breton Island 2 weeks previously, made landfall in
Port aux Basque, stayed the night, and then headed out the next
morning, their ultimate destination St. John's. But not even two
hours out they had trouble with their engine. So they made port at
Isle aux Morts for diagnosis and repairs, and their they had been
laying, going on their 11th night as they waited for parts to arrive
from St. John's.
In spite of this they seemed in good spirits. Newfies are
embarrassingly hospitable, and like most people who live in remote
areas, a visitor of any sort is a welcome novelty. And while the
repair had cost them time, it had actually been relatively minor in
terms of money. On one point the skipper was particularly delight.
"You know they have a 40 ton lift in this town?" he asked. This
wasn't a surprise, there were several fishboats that size nearby.
"Do you know how much it cost me to haul my boat?" He paused for
dramatic effect. "Five dollars, Canadian."
I suppose this has something to do with the 14% VAT levied on
everything you buy in Newfoundland, or maybe with the collapse of the
cod fishery their just happy to have an excuse to run the damn thing.
Whatever the case, getting your boat, even a BIG BOAT in and out of
the water is not a problem in Newfoundland.
However these wheel wells do or don't work, I don't think it's going
to be much of a problem for me. 99% of the time my I60 is going to be
tied off to a float in a shallow cove about 2 miles from my house.
She'll be the ultimate daysailer; a testament to the triumph of my
foolishness. If it does happen that I actually want to drive her
somewhere to go for a sail, I'll drive her to Ilse aux Mort (I've
already checked the cost of putting her on the ferry and it's
reasonable) and have them launch her with their hoist!
YIBB,
David
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296
It's a pity that neither Sue nor I have a scanner big enough to show
the you the drawings we got yesterday, because the boat really is a
wonder. The only description of the look I can find is that she looks
like a schooner rigged starship; the most unlikely yet but beautiful
combination of traditional maritime looks and modern lines I never
could have imagined. She is just so sleek, and carries such an
impressive sail plan that about all I can think about is how she'll
look knifing through the chop at 12+ knots.
But I will admit to being intimidated by the wheel wells. Who knows,
had this been a part of the pitch from the start, maybe I wouldn't
have bought in. But it's too late! Besides, the whole trailer thing
is icing on the cake for me, and whatever PCB has up his sleeve,
we'll find out soon enough. I think he feels enough affection about
this design to give it his best shot. In the mean time, come with me
to a small outport in Newfoundland and I'll tell you a story that
shows why I'm not really worried about launching the I60 anymore.
Take out a map of The Rock, and find the town of Port Aux Basque at
the very southwestern corner. That's where the ferry comes in from
North Sydney NS. Now let your eye travel East just a little down the
coast to Isle aux Morts (charming name, huh?) It was in Isle aux
Morts that we found a 40 foot sloop tied up at the town wharf. Since
we had just spent a few days in Burgeo (look a little further East)
and were already dreaming of future adventures on Newfoundland's
South coast, we couldn't help wonder: where they heading East? (In
which case we wanted to regale them with what little we had already
seen); or were they headed West? (In which case we wanted to quiz
them on all the many miles of uninhabited coast we were already
dreaming about.)
In fact, they were neither headed East nor West. They had crossed
over from Cape Breton Island 2 weeks previously, made landfall in
Port aux Basque, stayed the night, and then headed out the next
morning, their ultimate destination St. John's. But not even two
hours out they had trouble with their engine. So they made port at
Isle aux Morts for diagnosis and repairs, and their they had been
laying, going on their 11th night as they waited for parts to arrive
from St. John's.
In spite of this they seemed in good spirits. Newfies are
embarrassingly hospitable, and like most people who live in remote
areas, a visitor of any sort is a welcome novelty. And while the
repair had cost them time, it had actually been relatively minor in
terms of money. On one point the skipper was particularly delight.
"You know they have a 40 ton lift in this town?" he asked. This
wasn't a surprise, there were several fishboats that size nearby.
"Do you know how much it cost me to haul my boat?" He paused for
dramatic effect. "Five dollars, Canadian."
I suppose this has something to do with the 14% VAT levied on
everything you buy in Newfoundland, or maybe with the collapse of the
cod fishery their just happy to have an excuse to run the damn thing.
Whatever the case, getting your boat, even a BIG BOAT in and out of
the water is not a problem in Newfoundland.
However these wheel wells do or don't work, I don't think it's going
to be much of a problem for me. 99% of the time my I60 is going to be
tied off to a float in a shallow cove about 2 miles from my house.
She'll be the ultimate daysailer; a testament to the triumph of my
foolishness. If it does happen that I actually want to drive her
somewhere to go for a sail, I'll drive her to Ilse aux Mort (I've
already checked the cost of putting her on the ferry and it's
reasonable) and have them launch her with their hoist!
YIBB,
David
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296