Re: Finishing Bright?
I always tried to avoid varnish in the past until I built a kayak
and used it. I was amazed at the ease of application, the
durability, and the beauty of the finised product. This was with Z-
Spar 'Captain's Varnish' over epoxy.
I basically followed the instructions on the CLC site (see address
at the bottom) and was amazed. I found it easier to apply and more
durable than paint, better looking, and you can see the condition of
the wood underneath.
Since then I have done some oars and some spars and been pleased
with the results with varnish over epoxy. I found it a little
harder to get a perfect finish on spars compared to a flatter
surface, but it still looked good. Maybe next time I will try the
rotisserie trick.
IMO, there is no contest, varnish wins hands down over paint for
spars.
Pete
For a varnishing tutorial see:
http://www.clcboats.com/shoptips/shoptips_varnishing.php/
and used it. I was amazed at the ease of application, the
durability, and the beauty of the finised product. This was with Z-
Spar 'Captain's Varnish' over epoxy.
I basically followed the instructions on the CLC site (see address
at the bottom) and was amazed. I found it easier to apply and more
durable than paint, better looking, and you can see the condition of
the wood underneath.
Since then I have done some oars and some spars and been pleased
with the results with varnish over epoxy. I found it a little
harder to get a perfect finish on spars compared to a flatter
surface, but it still looked good. Maybe next time I will try the
rotisserie trick.
IMO, there is no contest, varnish wins hands down over paint for
spars.
Pete
For a varnishing tutorial see:
http://www.clcboats.com/shoptips/shoptips_varnishing.php/
What I would do is find a small rotisserie attachment for a barbeque
and then make a bearing for the other end. Placing your spars one at
a time in this device paint bright enamel red or yellow lines around
portions of the spars for looks. Then get the fast curing Raka epoxy
and coat the spar as it turns on the rotisserie with the epoxy.
You'll be surprised at the resulting glass smooth finish it leaves.
After the epoxy sets put a nice coat of UV resistant varnish over
that and you will have a super hard finished spar. If you do not
leave it out in the sun all the time it will last for years.
The finish will last much longer than paint and people will
constantly ask you how you made your spars look so nice. The enamel
paint can be purchased at any hobby store and be sure to get the
ultra gloss paint. Under the epoxy it will look a mile deep. After
a few years just lightly sand and place another coat of UV resistant
varnish on it. That is all you will need to do. Simple and an
excellent finish, what more could you ask from it?
John Cupp
Duckworks columnist
& Flaming Bolgerista
and then make a bearing for the other end. Placing your spars one at
a time in this device paint bright enamel red or yellow lines around
portions of the spars for looks. Then get the fast curing Raka epoxy
and coat the spar as it turns on the rotisserie with the epoxy.
You'll be surprised at the resulting glass smooth finish it leaves.
After the epoxy sets put a nice coat of UV resistant varnish over
that and you will have a super hard finished spar. If you do not
leave it out in the sun all the time it will last for years.
The finish will last much longer than paint and people will
constantly ask you how you made your spars look so nice. The enamel
paint can be purchased at any hobby store and be sure to get the
ultra gloss paint. Under the epoxy it will look a mile deep. After
a few years just lightly sand and place another coat of UV resistant
varnish on it. That is all you will need to do. Simple and an
excellent finish, what more could you ask from it?
John Cupp
Duckworks columnist
& Flaming Bolgerista
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> FBBB --
>
> I finished the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen in the waning days of
> Indian Summer. Eager to get her in the water, and didn't know
whether
> I want to paint her spars or leave them bright, I simply left them
> slightly oversized and unfinished.
>
> Three years later I've got the grey wood planed/sanded away; the
> touble is I still don't know whether I want to paint or finish
bright.
>
> Obviously bright has a nice shippy look that would go well with the
> lines of the Light Scooner, but I'm not big on boat maintenance
(I'd
> prefer to put that effort into more boats!). Still, the spars
aren't
> all that big. It wouldn't be much to rub them down with something
now
> and then. We had a small amount of teak on our fishboat, and I
never
> minded oiling it. I don't care much for the idea of sanding or
> scraping.
>
> Any thoughts or recommendation on finishes?
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
> --
>
> C.E.P.
> 415 W.46th Street
> New York, New York 10036
>http://www.crumblingempire.com
> Mobile (646) 325-8325
> Office (212) 247-0296
Nice thing about bright finishes is that they show where the rot is. I'd
suggest Z-Spar 'Captain's Varnish'
suggest Z-Spar 'Captain's Varnish'
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:01 PM
Subject: [bolger] Finishing Bright?
| FBBB --
|
| I finished the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen in the waning days of
| Indian Summer. Eager to get her in the water, and didn't know whether
| I want to paint her spars or leave them bright, I simply left them
| slightly oversized and unfinished.
|
| Three years later I've got the grey wood planed/sanded away; the
| touble is I still don't know whether I want to paint or finish bright.
|
| Obviously bright has a nice shippy look that would go well with the
| lines of the Light Scooner, but I'm not big on boat maintenance (I'd
| prefer to put that effort into more boats!). Still, the spars aren't
| all that big. It wouldn't be much to rub them down with something now
| and then. We had a small amount of teak on our fishboat, and I never
| minded oiling it. I don't care much for the idea of sanding or
| scraping.
|
| Any thoughts or recommendation on finishes?
|
| YIBB,
|
| David
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|
| C.E.P.
| 415 W.46th Street
| New York, New York 10036
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> Any thoughts or recommendation on finishes?I think that a rubbed-on oil finish might work out well, but I can't
recommend a brand. I used Deks Oje (sp?) on the trim of one of my
boats. It tended to attract dirt, and took a good long time to dry.
If I didn't keep it covered, rain would drive off the wood onto the
fiberglass where would stain.
Peter
Six or eight coats of Behr spar varnish with sanding in between. Tradition!
Actually, after the second coat, the sanding is easy -- no sharp corners to
protect, you're mainly removing the fruit flies and brush hairs.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
Actually, after the second coat, the sanding is easy -- no sharp corners to
protect, you're mainly removing the fruit flies and brush hairs.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
>
> I finished the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen in the waning days of
> Indian Summer. Eager to get her in the water, and didn't know whether
> I want to paint her spars or leave them bright, I simply left them
> slightly oversized and unfinished.
>
> Three years later I've got the grey wood planed/sanded away; the
> touble is I still don't know whether I want to paint or finish bright.
>
> Obviously bright has a nice shippy look that would go well with the
> lines of the Light Scooner, but I'm not big on boat maintenance (I'd
> prefer to put that effort into more boats!). Still, the spars aren't
> all that big. It wouldn't be much to rub them down with something now
> and then. We had a small amount of teak on our fishboat, and I never
> minded oiling it. I don't care much for the idea of sanding or
> scraping.
FBBB --
I finished the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen in the waning days of
Indian Summer. Eager to get her in the water, and didn't know whether
I want to paint her spars or leave them bright, I simply left them
slightly oversized and unfinished.
Three years later I've got the grey wood planed/sanded away; the
touble is I still don't know whether I want to paint or finish bright.
Obviously bright has a nice shippy look that would go well with the
lines of the Light Scooner, but I'm not big on boat maintenance (I'd
prefer to put that effort into more boats!). Still, the spars aren't
all that big. It wouldn't be much to rub them down with something now
and then. We had a small amount of teak on our fishboat, and I never
minded oiling it. I don't care much for the idea of sanding or
scraping.
Any thoughts or recommendation on finishes?
YIBB,
David
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296
I finished the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen in the waning days of
Indian Summer. Eager to get her in the water, and didn't know whether
I want to paint her spars or leave them bright, I simply left them
slightly oversized and unfinished.
Three years later I've got the grey wood planed/sanded away; the
touble is I still don't know whether I want to paint or finish bright.
Obviously bright has a nice shippy look that would go well with the
lines of the Light Scooner, but I'm not big on boat maintenance (I'd
prefer to put that effort into more boats!). Still, the spars aren't
all that big. It wouldn't be much to rub them down with something now
and then. We had a small amount of teak on our fishboat, and I never
minded oiling it. I don't care much for the idea of sanding or
scraping.
Any thoughts or recommendation on finishes?
YIBB,
David
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296