Re: Weekend of boatbuilding
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, sctree <sctree@d...> wrote:
Well.....it all depends on just how cold it is:-) Otherwise,I
use Industrial Formulators COLD CURE epoxy and set it in a pale of
hot water.It does help greatly if the pieces to be epoxied are also
warmed up......I use a blow drier(not my Pesky Crews,God NO!!) and
try to get the epoxy work done early enough in the day so that it is
well on its way to being cured before the cold night falls.
Alcohol,as if you didn't know, is to fuel the fires of blind
madness which lurk just beneath the fair thin outershell of folks
generally known as"amateur boatbuilders", also sometimes
called "raving idiots".It's really great stuff to introduce gently
into your body when all hope seems lost or to giggle that remaining
memory cell into recalling exactly why one is building a boat in the
first place.
Otherwise, it is a certain sign of welcome and friendship when shared
with others crazy enough to pay a visit along the frozen snow
covered banks of the St.Lawrence Seaway.
or damned uncivilized at best.But you're right,it is insanity:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,not yet into the sauce but not anywhere near his boat
either..........
> To get back to boatbuilding... Esplain please, how do you northernguys
> mix frozen resin and hardener??? Is that what all this talk ofalcohol
> is about?Hi Rick,
Well.....it all depends on just how cold it is:-) Otherwise,I
use Industrial Formulators COLD CURE epoxy and set it in a pale of
hot water.It does help greatly if the pieces to be epoxied are also
warmed up......I use a blow drier(not my Pesky Crews,God NO!!) and
try to get the epoxy work done early enough in the day so that it is
well on its way to being cured before the cold night falls.
Alcohol,as if you didn't know, is to fuel the fires of blind
madness which lurk just beneath the fair thin outershell of folks
generally known as"amateur boatbuilders", also sometimes
called "raving idiots".It's really great stuff to introduce gently
into your body when all hope seems lost or to giggle that remaining
memory cell into recalling exactly why one is building a boat in the
first place.
Otherwise, it is a certain sign of welcome and friendship when shared
with others crazy enough to pay a visit along the frozen snow
covered banks of the St.Lawrence Seaway.
>street to
> Rick-
> Recalling the insanity of everyone shoveling snow out into the
> the right, so that the plow could push it into the "downstreet"Up here,that sort of behavior is sometimes called a"suicide" at worst
> neighbor's driveway.
or damned uncivilized at best.But you're right,it is insanity:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,not yet into the sauce but not anywhere near his boat
either..........
I'm rather pleased with my old, discarded, inoperable, refrigerator which I
equipped with an electric "heat tape" to keep the inside above 40 degrees F.
(Heat tapes are sold to house trailer owners to keep their water lines from
freezing.)
Since I scrounged it from an appliance delivery truck delivering something
else, I didn't even have to wrestle it around. The truck's crew backed up
to the barn and unloaded it where I wanted it.
A cheap indoor/outdoor thermometer with "min/max" capability tells me how
it's doing. (The inside of the refrigerator is "outside" on the
thermometer.)
Roger
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equipped with an electric "heat tape" to keep the inside above 40 degrees F.
(Heat tapes are sold to house trailer owners to keep their water lines from
freezing.)
Since I scrounged it from an appliance delivery truck delivering something
else, I didn't even have to wrestle it around. The truck's crew backed up
to the barn and unloaded it where I wanted it.
A cheap indoor/outdoor thermometer with "min/max" capability tells me how
it's doing. (The inside of the refrigerator is "outside" on the
thermometer.)
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@...>
> The easiest thing is just to keep the resin and hardener warm. Mine lives
in
> a cardboard box against the baseboard heater(hot water, not electric!)in
> the kitchen, just inside the door from the unheated garage. When I need to
> mix a batch I just lean in the door and pump away; any dribbles from the
> ratioing pumps fall inside the box so I don't get scolded for gooping up
the
> Pergo. The resin and hardener pumps out, mixes, and soaks in better, and
> cures faster when warm. I even heat my chemicals in a bucket of warm water
> when temps are in the 70's - it just makes the stuff so much easier to
work
> with. It has really extended my building season this year - even without
> buying the special cold-weather epoxy, I can get a good overnight cure
with
> outside temps in the 20's(F) with a salvaged electric 'oil radiator'
heater
> on low inside the boat, and a tarp over everything. My wife is starting to
> grumble about wanting 'her' garage back so she won't have to scrape her
car
> so I'll have to kick the Micro outdoors pretty soon, but I was determined
to
> get it all decked, glassed and sealed before doing so. Once I glass the
deck
> and epoxy seal the endgrain in the drain holes this weekend, it'll be
ready
> for the snow.
<snip>
Rick,
The easiest thing is just to keep the resin and hardener warm. Mine lives in
a cardboard box against the baseboard heater(hot water, not electric!)in
the kitchen, just inside the door from the unheated garage. When I need to
mix a batch I just lean in the door and pump away; any dribbles from the
ratioing pumps fall inside the box so I don't get scolded for gooping up the
Pergo. The resin and hardener pumps out, mixes, and soaks in better, and
cures faster when warm. I even heat my chemicals in a bucket of warm water
when temps are in the 70's - it just makes the stuff so much easier to work
with. It has really extended my building season this year - even without
buying the special cold-weather epoxy, I can get a good overnight cure with
outside temps in the 20's(F) with a salvaged electric 'oil radiator' heater
on low inside the boat, and a tarp over everything. My wife is starting to
grumble about wanting 'her' garage back so she won't have to scrape her car
so I'll have to kick the Micro outdoors pretty soon, but I was determined to
get it all decked, glassed and sealed before doing so. Once I glass the deck
and epoxy seal the endgrain in the drain holes this weekend, it'll be ready
for the snow.
I must say it was really hard for me to drill those four 1" drain holes in
the flooding wells on Saturday - a little voice in my head kept screaming
"Nooooooooo!!! What're you DOING???". This is my fifth boat, and it's the
first time I've had to drill big holes in the bottom of a perfectly good
hull... I had to keep telling myself "it's OK, they're in the drawing, and
are there to let the water OUT......"
Lately I've had to choose my days carefully for exterior work, but now that
my boat actually has an 'inside' and an 'outside', there's plenty of finish
work to keep me busy in the cuddy - that little heater makes it very cozy. I
figure every night I spend sanding and painting the inside during the cold,
dark months puts me that much closer to a launch date.
Save the alcohol for warming the builder... spiced or aged rum is a great
accompaniment to garage sailing!
Paul Lefebvre
from the chilly shores of Cape Cod
The easiest thing is just to keep the resin and hardener warm. Mine lives in
a cardboard box against the baseboard heater(hot water, not electric!)in
the kitchen, just inside the door from the unheated garage. When I need to
mix a batch I just lean in the door and pump away; any dribbles from the
ratioing pumps fall inside the box so I don't get scolded for gooping up the
Pergo. The resin and hardener pumps out, mixes, and soaks in better, and
cures faster when warm. I even heat my chemicals in a bucket of warm water
when temps are in the 70's - it just makes the stuff so much easier to work
with. It has really extended my building season this year - even without
buying the special cold-weather epoxy, I can get a good overnight cure with
outside temps in the 20's(F) with a salvaged electric 'oil radiator' heater
on low inside the boat, and a tarp over everything. My wife is starting to
grumble about wanting 'her' garage back so she won't have to scrape her car
so I'll have to kick the Micro outdoors pretty soon, but I was determined to
get it all decked, glassed and sealed before doing so. Once I glass the deck
and epoxy seal the endgrain in the drain holes this weekend, it'll be ready
for the snow.
I must say it was really hard for me to drill those four 1" drain holes in
the flooding wells on Saturday - a little voice in my head kept screaming
"Nooooooooo!!! What're you DOING???". This is my fifth boat, and it's the
first time I've had to drill big holes in the bottom of a perfectly good
hull... I had to keep telling myself "it's OK, they're in the drawing, and
are there to let the water OUT......"
Lately I've had to choose my days carefully for exterior work, but now that
my boat actually has an 'inside' and an 'outside', there's plenty of finish
work to keep me busy in the cuddy - that little heater makes it very cozy. I
figure every night I spend sanding and painting the inside during the cold,
dark months puts me that much closer to a launch date.
Save the alcohol for warming the builder... spiced or aged rum is a great
accompaniment to garage sailing!
Paul Lefebvre
from the chilly shores of Cape Cod
Peter,
All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray..... At least that's what
I tell all my relatives when they call.
Actually this morning was the first below freezing temperature we've had
around here since winter '02. I sent my son out this morning to get the
frost off the truck windshield and he came back a few minutes later with
numb fingertips to tell me the ice wouldn't "wipe" off. I asked if he
tried the ice scraper and he said; "What's that ? "
Looks like a hard frost tomorrow morning. I guess I better go out with a
flashlight and pick some oranges tonight.
To get back to boatbuilding... Esplain please, how do you northern guys
mix frozen resin and hardener??? Is that what all this talk of alcohol
is about?
Rick-
Recalling the insanity of everyone shoveling snow out into the street to
the right, so that the plow could push it into the "downstreet"
neighbor's driveway.
All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray..... At least that's what
I tell all my relatives when they call.
Actually this morning was the first below freezing temperature we've had
around here since winter '02. I sent my son out this morning to get the
frost off the truck windshield and he came back a few minutes later with
numb fingertips to tell me the ice wouldn't "wipe" off. I asked if he
tried the ice scraper and he said; "What's that ? "
Looks like a hard frost tomorrow morning. I guess I better go out with a
flashlight and pick some oranges tonight.
To get back to boatbuilding... Esplain please, how do you northern guys
mix frozen resin and hardener??? Is that what all this talk of alcohol
is about?
Rick-
Recalling the insanity of everyone shoveling snow out into the street to
the right, so that the plow could push it into the "downstreet"
neighbor's driveway.
> hope you have at least one
> shot showing a blue sunny sky,green leafy trees and sun spackled
> water to drive the rest of us a wee bit nuts(not that we need much
> help)!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan,not yet in the throes of winter madness but getting
> closer every day........:-D
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
inspire/encourage other builders favoured by a benign climate to get
on with the work at hand :-)
Each little bit done today is just one less little bit to be done
tomorrow.Sorta like a giant 3D puzzle.
Can't wait to see your pictures........hope you have at least one
shot showing a blue sunny sky,green leafy trees and sun spackled
water to drive the rest of us a wee bit nuts(not that we need much
help)!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,not yet in the throes of winter madness but getting
closer every day........:-D
> On topic, but maybe boring,Boring? BORING?! No way Bruce! That's just the kind of stuff to
> I spent the best part of the
> weekend working on Micro Nav-
> igator. Photo's to follow.
inspire/encourage other builders favoured by a benign climate to get
on with the work at hand :-)
Each little bit done today is just one less little bit to be done
tomorrow.Sorta like a giant 3D puzzle.
Can't wait to see your pictures........hope you have at least one
shot showing a blue sunny sky,green leafy trees and sun spackled
water to drive the rest of us a wee bit nuts(not that we need much
help)!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,not yet in the throes of winter madness but getting
closer every day........:-D
On topic, but maybe boring,
I spent the best part of the
weekend working on Micro Nav-
igator. Photo's to follow.
I built spars. Top gaff,
which is curved, from a
really choice 1 in a 100
piece of Home Depot DFir
2x6. The boom too, plus
three battens. They all
have mast jaws, laminated
from plywood.
I also worked on the cabin
by installing the knotty
pine 'wall' on the face of
the berths/seats. In this
I also roughed in the elect-
rical boxes for the switches.
Micro Navigator has a mind
numbing quantity of blocks
and pullies [three dozen!].
I am making them from UHWM
plastic. After a few false
starts, I have chosen to make
the blocks out of heat bent
polycarbonate scrap. That
stuff is dense, strong, and
very easy to 'machine'.
As a 'trial run' I made a
two part pully system to
lift my table saw from a
choice spot in my shop up
into the rafters to clear
up floor space.
I still have a spare day of
vacation, use or lose it,
before years end so I am
taking tomorrow off for a
boat building day!
I spent the best part of the
weekend working on Micro Nav-
igator. Photo's to follow.
I built spars. Top gaff,
which is curved, from a
really choice 1 in a 100
piece of Home Depot DFir
2x6. The boom too, plus
three battens. They all
have mast jaws, laminated
from plywood.
I also worked on the cabin
by installing the knotty
pine 'wall' on the face of
the berths/seats. In this
I also roughed in the elect-
rical boxes for the switches.
Micro Navigator has a mind
numbing quantity of blocks
and pullies [three dozen!].
I am making them from UHWM
plastic. After a few false
starts, I have chosen to make
the blocks out of heat bent
polycarbonate scrap. That
stuff is dense, strong, and
very easy to 'machine'.
As a 'trial run' I made a
two part pully system to
lift my table saw from a
choice spot in my shop up
into the rafters to clear
up floor space.
I still have a spare day of
vacation, use or lose it,
before years end so I am
taking tomorrow off for a
boat building day!
Hey Bruce, how about a software pun or two?
Floppy Floater
Tri-Ram
Bug-Free
Lapper
et al.
Bruce II or is it III (el mouton noir de Kingston)
Floppy Floater
Tri-Ram
Bug-Free
Lapper
et al.
Bruce II or is it III (el mouton noir de Kingston)
calex@...wrote:
big bantam would be a "chook".
Bruce Fountain
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
> I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I'veA "big bantam" is kind of like a double-negative. Around here a
> heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
> appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
big bantam would be a "chook".
Bruce Fountain
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "chodges31711" <chodges@a...> wrote:
> You could name an award winning boat after the literary award -This just HAS to be the winning entry:-))
> " The Pullet Surprise "
>
> Charles
You could name an award winning boat after the literary award -
" The Pullet Surprise "
Charles
" The Pullet Surprise "
Charles
Supah Bantah!
pep
pep
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
> Tri-Rooster or Bantamaxi? !!
>
> camalexander2002 <calex@e...> wrote:Greetings from frozen Manitoba -
30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out) The
> heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
> resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger
refers
> to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
> However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
> heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
> appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
>
> Cam
>
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Hi Cam,
How about "Wild Turkey" after the libation of the same name???
Steve.
How about "Wild Turkey" after the libation of the same name???
Steve.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "camalexander2002" <calex@e...> wrote:
> Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out)
The
> heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
> resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger
refers
> to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
> However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
> heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
> appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
>
> Cam
You already have plenty of possible names,
my suggestions are:
Bolger's Bantam
or
Bolger's Big Bantam
or
B's Bantam
or
BB's
or
Bantam #654
my suggestions are:
Bolger's Bantam
or
Bolger's Big Bantam
or
B's Bantam
or
BB's
or
Bantam #654
Hi Cam,
If you go here you will see guidlines for:
"a shamelessly pretentious name for your boat."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canadianboatbuilder/
Any photos available? What part of Manitoba are you from?
"Ptarmigan" might be appropriate. Or "Spruce Grouse" But certainly
NOT "Fool Hen" or "Thompson Turkey" even if that is a familiar local
name:-)
Cheers, Nels
If you go here you will see guidlines for:
"a shamelessly pretentious name for your boat."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canadianboatbuilder/
Any photos available? What part of Manitoba are you from?
"Ptarmigan" might be appropriate. Or "Spruce Grouse" But certainly
NOT "Fool Hen" or "Thompson Turkey" even if that is a familiar local
name:-)
Cheers, Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "camalexander2002" <calex@e...> wrote:
> Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out)
Are you sure? I know people from Saskatchewan living there:-)
I am
> appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
>
> Cam
Sorry, that would be 'Prairie Chicken'.
I thought the spelling looked odd as I typed, but there were plenty of
google results for 'prarie'.
Note to self; Never write late at night.....
Derek
I thought the spelling looked odd as I typed, but there were plenty of
google results for 'prarie'.
Note to self; Never write late at night.....
Derek
Uh... "Prarie Chicken"?
Bigger than a bantam, from Manitoba.... They're interesting looking things,
prarie chickens.
2c
Derek
Bigger than a bantam, from Manitoba.... They're interesting looking things,
prarie chickens.
2c
Derek
How about Bantam Grande
Steve Bosquette
Steve Bosquette
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "camalexander2002" <calex@e...> wrote:
> Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out)
The
> heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
> resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger
refers
> to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
> However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
> heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
> appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
>
> Cam
Tri-Rooster or Bantamaxi? !!
camalexander2002 <calex@...> wrote:Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out) The
heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger refers
to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
Cam
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camalexander2002 <calex@...> wrote:Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out) The
heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger refers
to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
Cam
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----- Original Message -----
From: "camalexander2002" <calex@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:03 PM
Subject: [bolger] Need Bantam XL name suggestions
> Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out) The
> heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
> resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger refers
> to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
> However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
> heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
> appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
>
> Cam
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "camalexander2002" <calex@e...> wrote:
How about Partridge,a slightly larger fowl not so easily
domesticated as a bantam?
Peter Lenihan,glad to hear you've got heat on and glader still that
we are yet in the minus double diget realm.......yet......from along
the shores of the St.Lawrence
> Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out)The
> heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantamrefers
> resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger
> to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.Cam,
> However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
> heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
> appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
>
> Cam
How about Partridge,a slightly larger fowl not so easily
domesticated as a bantam?
Peter Lenihan,glad to hear you've got heat on and glader still that
we are yet in the minus double diget realm.......yet......from along
the shores of the St.Lawrence
Greetings from frozen Manitoba - 30C. (Keeps the riff-raff out) The
heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger refers
to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
Cam
heat is finally in the garage, and construction on the Bantam
resumes. The lack of name has been bothering me. Mr. Bolger refers
to the Bantam 16/20 and the 20/24 - so that is the offical name.
However, I'm looking for that catchy perfect label. So far, I've
heard the Bantam stretch, the Big Bantam and the Bantam XL. I am
appealing to the collective group genius for suggestions.
Cam