RE: [bolger] Re: Bolger Cruising Canoe, Dugong
They were also put off by how difficult the rig was to handle (as originally
designed). I was initially quite taken by this design, but having cruised
the same waters in various small craft, I understand their objections.
Sailing Florida Bay, a Black Skimmer made more sense, whereas the Bahamas
might call for a bit more boat. Based on their current boat, it would seem
they agree.
David Romasco
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From: dovekie107 [mailto:gunkholer@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:55 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Bolger Cruising Canoe, Dugong
When reviewing Dugong in her book "Beach Cruising and Coastal
Camping" Ida Little states that if they had it to do over again
they'd have bought a Dovekie and modified it for their purposes.
Being a Dovekie sailor I've often wondered what modifications they
might have made to make long term (several months) cruising in a
small, mostly open boat comfortable.
Jake
designed). I was initially quite taken by this design, but having cruised
the same waters in various small craft, I understand their objections.
Sailing Florida Bay, a Black Skimmer made more sense, whereas the Bahamas
might call for a bit more boat. Based on their current boat, it would seem
they agree.
David Romasco
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From: dovekie107 [mailto:gunkholer@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:55 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Bolger Cruising Canoe, Dugong
When reviewing Dugong in her book "Beach Cruising and Coastal
Camping" Ida Little states that if they had it to do over again
they'd have bought a Dovekie and modified it for their purposes.
Being a Dovekie sailor I've often wondered what modifications they
might have made to make long term (several months) cruising in a
small, mostly open boat comfortable.
Jake
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, johnfader <johnfader@b...> wrote:
> I had extensive conversations with Ida about the boat in the '83-
86 years. A couple of times I tried to buy Dugong, as they weren't
very pleased with the design for their use. With the simple rig, it
wasn't a great sailer, plus they were cruising in the tropics and it
was a hot boat, tightly enclosed and with poor ventilation.
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I recall seeing Dugong come around for sale about 5 years ago??
It was listed in MAIB and I think the asking price then was around
$5-6000.
Jake
should have been, even for a cold-moulded boat. I expect that they'd
taken a lot of time-outs from building to drink sold beverages :-)
It seems that she was asking over US$10K in '84; a lot of money for
asmall boat with no engineered systems aboard. I had about $2500
ready to put into the deal, which was about what a good used San
Juan 21 with trailer and complete (racing) set of sails cost at that
time. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't get her, as I was living in
FL and would have had the same complaints they had. However, it is
to me still one of Bolger's most beautiful efforts BTW, I spoke to
him about buying Dugong and he said much the same about the pricing
as I mentioned above.
It was listed in MAIB and I think the asking price then was around
$5-6000.
Jake
> I was not able to buy it, as Ida thought that the sale priceshould compensate them for the labor, which was about 4X what it
should have been, even for a cold-moulded boat. I expect that they'd
taken a lot of time-outs from building to drink sold beverages :-)
It seems that she was asking over US$10K in '84; a lot of money for
asmall boat with no engineered systems aboard. I had about $2500
ready to put into the deal, which was about what a good used San
Juan 21 with trailer and complete (racing) set of sails cost at that
time. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't get her, as I was living in
FL and would have had the same complaints they had. However, it is
to me still one of Bolger's most beautiful efforts BTW, I spoke to
him about buying Dugong and he said much the same about the pricing
as I mentioned above.
>
> Cheers/The Fader
When reviewing Dugong in her book "Beach Cruising and Coastal
Camping" Ida Little states that if they had it to do over again
they'd have bought a Dovekie and modified it for their purposes.
Being a Dovekie sailor I've often wondered what modifications they
might have made to make long term (several months) cruising in a
small, mostly open boat comfortable.
Jake
Camping" Ida Little states that if they had it to do over again
they'd have bought a Dovekie and modified it for their purposes.
Being a Dovekie sailor I've often wondered what modifications they
might have made to make long term (several months) cruising in a
small, mostly open boat comfortable.
Jake
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, johnfader <johnfader@b...> wrote:
> I had extensive conversations with Ida about the boat in the '83-
86 years. A couple of times I tried to buy Dugong, as they weren't
very pleased with the design for their use. With the simple rig, it
wasn't a great sailer, plus they were cruising in the tropics and it
was a hot boat, tightly enclosed and with poor ventilation.
I had extensive conversations with Ida about the boat in the '83-86 years. A couple of times I tried to buy Dugong, as they weren't very pleased with the design for their use. With the simple rig, it wasn't a great sailer, plus they were cruising in the tropics and it was a hot boat, tightly enclosed and with poor ventilation. In 86 they were building a classic schooner non-Bolger)as a replacement.
I was not able to buy it, as Ida thought that the sale price should compensate them for the labor, which was about 4X what it should have been, even for a cold-moulded boat. I expect that they'd taken a lot of time-outs from building to drink sold beverages :-) It seems that she was asking over US$10K in '84; a lot of money for asmall boat with no engineered systems aboard. I had about $2500 ready to put into the deal, which was about what a good used San Juan 21 with trailer and complete (racing) set of sails cost at that time. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't get her, as I was living in FL and would have had the same complaints they had. However, it is to me still one of Bolger's most beautiful efforts BTW, I spoke to him about buying Dugong and he said much the same about the pricing as I mentioned above.
Cheers/The Fader
RKAMILS wrote:
That boat would have to be called a success as I have read, in various
sailing mags, several articles going back for a lot of years on their exploits.
Their being Ida and her partner.
I was not able to buy it, as Ida thought that the sale price should compensate them for the labor, which was about 4X what it should have been, even for a cold-moulded boat. I expect that they'd taken a lot of time-outs from building to drink sold beverages :-) It seems that she was asking over US$10K in '84; a lot of money for asmall boat with no engineered systems aboard. I had about $2500 ready to put into the deal, which was about what a good used San Juan 21 with trailer and complete (racing) set of sails cost at that time. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't get her, as I was living in FL and would have had the same complaints they had. However, it is to me still one of Bolger's most beautiful efforts BTW, I spoke to him about buying Dugong and he said much the same about the pricing as I mentioned above.
Cheers/The Fader
RKAMILS wrote:
That boat would have to be called a success as I have read, in various
sailing mags, several articles going back for a lot of years on their exploits.
Their being Ida and her partner.