Re: Black Skimmer/ Micro
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
I have read some articles where the Black Skimmer was sailed
singlehanded. May I ask what Bolger charges for review and changes
to existing plans,
Cheers,
John
Yes the family has had and has a few Bolger Boats. My father built
a "Romp" 30' Cat Ketch called "Beluga", then a 20' Sheet Ply
Chebacco called "Grebe". A "Teal" dinghy , a couple of "Elegant
Punts", a 13' 6" Strip-planked, Dynel and Epoxy
Sheathed "Recreational Rowboat" called "Folly", "Merlin" 21' 3" x
7'10"(Marina Cruiser in B.W.A.O.M.), 15' x 5' "Diablo" Outboard
Utility Skiff called "Sabre" and he is currently finishing off a
Bolger "Harbinger" 15' x7'1" catboat which he hopes to have in the
water by February.She's a combination of modern and traditional
boatbuilding methods, - Strip planked, Dynel and epoxy sheathed wood
with frames , floors etc so when finished she'll look 100%
traditional and last close to 200 years + if looked after !!!!
He's also built a number of boats by other designers, but nothing
major, just dinghies and a Kayak.
Leopard"(B.W.A.O.M) but slightly smaller and lighter 26' x 6 '6"
to "Snow Leopard's" 28' x 7'
with an Open Mind" and I decided that a slightly smaller version
might be slightly more practical in regards to trailering,
launching/retrieving. Also the smaller craft will require less power
to reach the specified top speed of around 40 Knots. A 160 HP 6
cylinder should be able to attain this speed. Bolger stated in a
letter to me that about 100-130HP Should see speeds in excess of 30
Knots.(Approx.34 M.P.H.)
4500-4800 Max. to yield about 160-180 HP.
> Hugo,For some reason part of my reply was not sent. I think I wrote that
I have read some articles where the Black Skimmer was sailed
singlehanded. May I ask what Bolger charges for review and changes
to existing plans,
Cheers,
John
Yes the family has had and has a few Bolger Boats. My father built
a "Romp" 30' Cat Ketch called "Beluga", then a 20' Sheet Ply
Chebacco called "Grebe". A "Teal" dinghy , a couple of "Elegant
Punts", a 13' 6" Strip-planked, Dynel and Epoxy
Sheathed "Recreational Rowboat" called "Folly", "Merlin" 21' 3" x
7'10"(Marina Cruiser in B.W.A.O.M.), 15' x 5' "Diablo" Outboard
Utility Skiff called "Sabre" and he is currently finishing off a
Bolger "Harbinger" 15' x7'1" catboat which he hopes to have in the
water by February.She's a combination of modern and traditional
boatbuilding methods, - Strip planked, Dynel and epoxy sheathed wood
with frames , floors etc so when finished she'll look 100%
traditional and last close to 200 years + if looked after !!!!
He's also built a number of boats by other designers, but nothing
major, just dinghies and a Kayak.
>construction "Torpedo-Stern" runabout based on "Snow
> Currently Bolger is designing me a custom composite
Leopard"(B.W.A.O.M) but slightly smaller and lighter 26' x 6 '6"
to "Snow Leopard's" 28' x 7'
>Leopard" hadn't progressed any further than what is shown in "Boats
> The reason a new design was required was that the design of "Snow
with an Open Mind" and I decided that a slightly smaller version
might be slightly more practical in regards to trailering,
launching/retrieving. Also the smaller craft will require less power
to reach the specified top speed of around 40 Knots. A 160 HP 6
cylinder should be able to attain this speed. Bolger stated in a
letter to me that about 100-130HP Should see speeds in excess of 30
Knots.(Approx.34 M.P.H.)
>will fit the bill nicely, maybe De Tuned or Rev. limited to about
> I'm thinking that a Subaru "Boxer" 3.3 L 230HP 6 cylinder engine
4500-4800 Max. to yield about 160-180 HP.
>of "Silver Blaze" (Bolger's design name for the new craft.)
> Hugo Tyson in Tasmania, paitiently awaiting the completed plans
> mannthree <atonkin@b...> wrote:reference site for Bolger books turned up some
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
> > Black Skimmer is featured in Bolger's second book "The Folding
> Schooner" which is long out of print.
>
> I sent off for the Black Skimmer plans today. singlehanded. The
> second hand copies so I might invest. Are you sailing a Bolgerquite
> design,
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > mannthree <atonkin@b...> wrote:I have been sailing my Micro for
> about two years and lately had her
> > out in 20knots plus with the main reefed. Sydney harbour is
> > tricky in these conditions because the headlands and bays "bend"and
> and
> > funnel the wind so that it becomes quite changeable. I find
> holding
> > the boat on a windward course quite tricky and
> somtimes "exciting"
> > She has never been knocked down but simply rounds up in the
> gusts.
> > Has anyone out there had experience in 20knots plus in a micro
> > what are the tricks to get her to sail to windward in thesethe
> > conditions. I find that I tack a lot but get nowhere. By the
> way,
> > you may have deduced already that I'm not a brilliant sailor!
> >
> > I have also read all the post items on this site dealing with
> > Black Skimmer. I am looking for another project (this one longquestions
> term
> > in my retirement in about 5 years. I have the following
> > re Black Skimmer:pleased
> >
> > 1 Are there any other sites or pictures around (I have read the
> > schooner pages etc etc?
> > 2 Is it detailed in "Boats with an Open Mind"?
> > 3. Can she be sailed by one person. I do most of my sailing
> > singlehanded so any new boat will have to meet this requirement?
> > 4. Is it better to get plans directly from Phil Bolger and
> Friends
> > or from Instant Boats or Common Sense Boats? I bought my Micro
> > plans from CSD but have noticed recently that they require some
> > money for the catalogue.
> > 5. Is the Otter ? Otter2 a scaled down version of the Black
> Skimmer
> > and are there any good pictures around of these two boats?
> >
> > I know of two other Microphiles in Australia and would be
> to
> > here from others as well as any Black Skimmer owners/builders,
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Mann (Sydney Sailing weather is 34C mid summer)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
I have read some articles where the Black Skimmer was sailed
singlehanded. May I ask what Bolger charges for review and changes
to existing plans,
Cheers,
John
Yes the family has had and has a few Bolger Boats. My father built
a "Romp" 30' Cat Ketch called "Beluga", then a 20' Sheet Ply
Chebacco called "Grebe". A "Teal" dinghy , a couple of "Elegant
Punts", a 13' 6" Strip-planked, Dynel and Epoxy
Sheathed "Recreational Rowboat" called "Folly", "Merlin" 21' 3" x
7'10"(Marina Cruiser in B.W.A.O.M.), 15' x 5' "Diablo" Outboard
Utility Skiff called "Sabre" and he is currently finishing off a
Bolger "Harbinger" 15' x7'1" catboat which he hopes to have in the
water by February.She's a combination of modern and traditional
boatbuilding methods, - Strip planked, Dynel and epoxy sheathed wood
with frames , floors etc so when finished she'll look 100%
traditional and last close to 200 years + if looked after !!!!
He's also built a number of boats by other designers, but nothing
major, just dinghies and a Kayak.
Leopard"(B.W.A.O.M) but slightly smaller and lighter 26' x 6 '6"
to "Snow Leopard's" 28' x 7'
with an Open Mind" and I decided that a slightly smaller version
might be slightly more practical in regards to trailering,
launching/retrieving. Also the smaller craft will require less power
to reach the specified top speed of around 40 Knots. A 160 HP 6
cylinder should be able to attain this speed. Bolger stated in a
letter to me that about 100-130HP Should see speeds in excess of 30
Knots.(Approx.34 M.P.H.)
4500-4800 Max. to yield about 160-180 HP.
> Hugo,For some reason part of my reply was not sent. I think I wrote that
I have read some articles where the Black Skimmer was sailed
singlehanded. May I ask what Bolger charges for review and changes
to existing plans,
Cheers,
John
Yes the family has had and has a few Bolger Boats. My father built
a "Romp" 30' Cat Ketch called "Beluga", then a 20' Sheet Ply
Chebacco called "Grebe". A "Teal" dinghy , a couple of "Elegant
Punts", a 13' 6" Strip-planked, Dynel and Epoxy
Sheathed "Recreational Rowboat" called "Folly", "Merlin" 21' 3" x
7'10"(Marina Cruiser in B.W.A.O.M.), 15' x 5' "Diablo" Outboard
Utility Skiff called "Sabre" and he is currently finishing off a
Bolger "Harbinger" 15' x7'1" catboat which he hopes to have in the
water by February.She's a combination of modern and traditional
boatbuilding methods, - Strip planked, Dynel and epoxy sheathed wood
with frames , floors etc so when finished she'll look 100%
traditional and last close to 200 years + if looked after !!!!
He's also built a number of boats by other designers, but nothing
major, just dinghies and a Kayak.
>construction "Torpedo-Stern" runabout based on "Snow
> Currently Bolger is designing me a custom composite
Leopard"(B.W.A.O.M) but slightly smaller and lighter 26' x 6 '6"
to "Snow Leopard's" 28' x 7'
>Leopard" hadn't progressed any further than what is shown in "Boats
> The reason a new design was required was that the design of "Snow
with an Open Mind" and I decided that a slightly smaller version
might be slightly more practical in regards to trailering,
launching/retrieving. Also the smaller craft will require less power
to reach the specified top speed of around 40 Knots. A 160 HP 6
cylinder should be able to attain this speed. Bolger stated in a
letter to me that about 100-130HP Should see speeds in excess of 30
Knots.(Approx.34 M.P.H.)
>will fit the bill nicely, maybe De Tuned or Rev. limited to about
> I'm thinking that a Subaru "Boxer" 3.3 L 230HP 6 cylinder engine
4500-4800 Max. to yield about 160-180 HP.
>of "Silver Blaze" (Bolger's design name for the new craft.)
> Hugo Tyson in Tasmania, paitiently awaiting the completed plans
> mannthree <atonkin@b...> wrote:reference site for Bolger books turned up some
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
> > Black Skimmer is featured in Bolger's second book "The Folding
> Schooner" which is long out of print.
>
> I sent off for the Black Skimmer plans today. singlehanded. The
> second hand copies so I might invest. Are you sailing a Bolgerquite
> design,
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > mannthree <atonkin@b...> wrote:I have been sailing my Micro for
> about two years and lately had her
> > out in 20knots plus with the main reefed. Sydney harbour is
> > tricky in these conditions because the headlands and bays "bend"and
> and
> > funnel the wind so that it becomes quite changeable. I find
> holding
> > the boat on a windward course quite tricky and
> somtimes "exciting"
> > She has never been knocked down but simply rounds up in the
> gusts.
> > Has anyone out there had experience in 20knots plus in a micro
> > what are the tricks to get her to sail to windward in thesethe
> > conditions. I find that I tack a lot but get nowhere. By the
> way,
> > you may have deduced already that I'm not a brilliant sailor!
> >
> > I have also read all the post items on this site dealing with
> > Black Skimmer. I am looking for another project (this one longquestions
> term
> > in my retirement in about 5 years. I have the following
> > re Black Skimmer:pleased
> >
> > 1 Are there any other sites or pictures around (I have read the
> > schooner pages etc etc?
> > 2 Is it detailed in "Boats with an Open Mind"?
> > 3. Can she be sailed by one person. I do most of my sailing
> > singlehanded so any new boat will have to meet this requirement?
> > 4. Is it better to get plans directly from Phil Bolger and
> Friends
> > or from Instant Boats or Common Sense Boats? I bought my Micro
> > plans from CSD but have noticed recently that they require some
> > money for the catalogue.
> > 5. Is the Otter ? Otter2 a scaled down version of the Black
> Skimmer
> > and are there any good pictures around of these two boats?
> >
> > I know of two other Microphiles in Australia and would be
> to
> > here from others as well as any Black Skimmer owners/builders,
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Mann (Sydney Sailing weather is 34C mid summer)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Yes the family has had and has a few Bolger Boats. My father built a "Romp" 30' Cat Ketch called "Beluga", then a 20' Sheet Ply Chebacco called "Grebe". A "Teal" dinghy , a couple of "Elegant Punts", a 13' 6" Strip-planked, Dynel and Epoxy Sheathed "Recreational Rowboat" called "Folly", "Merlin" 21' 3" x 7'10"(Marina Cruiser in B.W.A.O.M.), 15' x 5' "Diablo" Outboard Utility Skiff called "Sabre" and he is currently finishing off a Bolger "Harbinger" 15' x7'1" catboat which he hopes to have in the water by February.She's a combination of modern and traditional boatbuilding methods, - Strip planked, Dynel and epoxy sheathed wood with frames , floors etc so when finished she'll look 100% traditional and last close to 200 years + if looked after !!!! He's also built a number of boats by other designers, but nothing major, just dinghies and a Kayak.
Currently Bolger is designing me a custom composite construction "Torpedo-Stern" runabout based on "Snow Leopard"(B.W.A.O.M) but slightly smaller and lighter 26' x 6 '6" to "Snow Leopard's" 28' x 7'
The reason a new design was required was that the design of "Snow Leopard" hadn't progressed any further than what is shown in "Boats with an Open Mind" and I decided that a slightly smaller version might be slightly more practical in regards to trailering, launching/retrieving. Also the smaller craft will require less power to reach the specified top speed of around 40 Knots. A 160 HP 6 cylinder should be able to attain this speed. Bolger stated in a letter to me that about 100-130HP Should see speeds in excess of 30 Knots.(Approx.34 M.P.H.)
I'm thinking that a Subaru "Boxer" 3.3 L 230HP 6 cylinder engine will fit the bill nicely, maybe De Tuned or Rev. limited to about 4500-4800 Max. to yield about 160-180 HP.
Hugo Tyson in Tasmania, paitiently awaiting the completed plans of "Silver Blaze" (Bolger's design name for the new craft.)
mannthree <atonkin@...> wrote:
Currently Bolger is designing me a custom composite construction "Torpedo-Stern" runabout based on "Snow Leopard"(B.W.A.O.M) but slightly smaller and lighter 26' x 6 '6" to "Snow Leopard's" 28' x 7'
The reason a new design was required was that the design of "Snow Leopard" hadn't progressed any further than what is shown in "Boats with an Open Mind" and I decided that a slightly smaller version might be slightly more practical in regards to trailering, launching/retrieving. Also the smaller craft will require less power to reach the specified top speed of around 40 Knots. A 160 HP 6 cylinder should be able to attain this speed. Bolger stated in a letter to me that about 100-130HP Should see speeds in excess of 30 Knots.(Approx.34 M.P.H.)
I'm thinking that a Subaru "Boxer" 3.3 L 230HP 6 cylinder engine will fit the bill nicely, maybe De Tuned or Rev. limited to about 4500-4800 Max. to yield about 160-180 HP.
Hugo Tyson in Tasmania, paitiently awaiting the completed plans of "Silver Blaze" (Bolger's design name for the new craft.)
mannthree <atonkin@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
> Black Skimmer is featured in Bolger's second book "The Folding
Schooner" which is long out of print.
I sent off for the Black Skimmer plans today. singlehanded. The reference site for Bolger books turned up some
second hand copies so I might invest. Are you sailing a Bolger
design,
Cheers,
John
>
>
>
>
> mannthree <atonkin@b...> wrote:I have been sailing my Micro for
about two years and lately had her
> out in 20knots plus with the main reefed. Sydney harbour is quite
> tricky in these conditions because the headlands and bays "bend"
and
> funnel the wind so that it becomes quite changeable. I find
holding
> the boat on a windward course quite tricky and
somtimes "exciting"
> She has never been knocked down but simply rounds up in the
gusts.
> Has anyone out there had experience in 20knots plus in a micro and
> what are the tricks to get her to sail to windward in these
> conditions. I find that I tack a lot but get nowhere. By the
way,
> you may have deduced already that I'm not a brilliant sailor!
>
> I have also read all the post items on this site dealing with the
> Black Skimmer. I am looking for another project (this one long
term
> in my retirement in about 5 years. I have the following questions
> re Black Skimmer:
>
> 1 Are there any other sites or pictures around (I have read the
> schooner pages etc etc?
> 2 Is it detailed in "Boats with an Open Mind"?
> 3. Can she be sailed by one person. I do most of my sailing
> singlehanded so any new boat will have to meet this requirement?
> 4. Is it better to get plans directly from Phil Bolger and
Friends
> or from Instant Boats or Common Sense Boats? I bought my Micro
> plans from CSD but have noticed recently that they require some
> money for the catalogue.
> 5. Is the Otter ? Otter2 a scaled down version of the Black
Skimmer
> and are there any good pictures around of these two boats?
>
> I know of two other Microphiles in Australia and would be pleased
to
> here from others as well as any Black Skimmer owners/builders,
>
> Regards,
>
> John Mann (Sydney Sailing weather is 34C mid summer)
>
>
>
>
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