Re: [bolger] Re: chebacco model
Hi,
I finally got around to digging onhttp://www.chebacco.comlooking for the
doghouse details you mentioned. No luck.
Any suggestions?
Roger
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I finally got around to digging onhttp://www.chebacco.comlooking for the
doghouse details you mentioned. No luck.
Any suggestions?
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: chebacco model
> > I'm building the "Cruising Conversion," but the model hasn't gotten
there
> > yet. I'm sneaking up on the structure needed to keep the roof (upper
deck?)
> > intact when some teenager decides to sunbathe there. One problem is
that so
> > much of it is cut away for hatches. The corners by the companionway
where
> > one will naturally grab when tossed about in a rough wake are
cantilevered
> > out in space and won't keep 200 lbs aloft without I make them from
> > unobtainium or add a lot of head-knocking structure. Maybe I'll build
them
> > as a break-away item which is easily repaired.
> >
>
> hmm. When I made mine, I used 1/2" mdo for the house, roof and all, with
> taped seams throughout. Might check out how I did it on chebacco.com, it's
> pretty stout. Though I try not to crawl on the aft roof of the cabin,
where it's
> cantilevered out, it will hold my weight. Also, in rough waves, standing
in
> the "navigator station", with your head sticking out the aft hatch, you
rarely
> put your fully weight on it, if ever.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
> hmm. When I made mine, I used 1/2" mdo for the house, roof and all,
> with taped seams throughout. Might check out how I did it on
> chebacco.com, it's pretty stout. Though I try not to crawl on the
> aft roof of the cabin, where it's cantilevered out, it will hold
> my weight. Also, in rough waves, standing in the "navigator
> station", with your head sticking out the aft hatch, you rarely put your
> fully weight on it, if ever.
I'm anticipating the time when a motorboat wake causes Ellen to step on the
dog who then bolts against my legs and leaves me swinging on the eave.
>
> Now you've done it, I'm wanting to go sailing again!
Isn't that why we have these groups?
Roger
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> I'm building the "Cruising Conversion," but the model hasn't gotten therehmm. When I made mine, I used 1/2" mdo for the house, roof and all, with taped seams throughout. Might check out how I did it on
> yet. I'm sneaking up on the structure needed to keep the roof (upper deck?)
> intact when some teenager decides to sunbathe there. One problem is that so
> much of it is cut away for hatches. The corners by the companionway where
> one will naturally grab when tossed about in a rough wake are cantilevered
> out in space and won't keep 200 lbs aloft without I make them from
> unobtainium or add a lot of head-knocking structure. Maybe I'll build them
> as a break-away item which is easily repaired.
>
chebacco.com, it's pretty stout. Though I try not to crawl on the aft roof of the cabin, where it's cantilevered out, it will hold
my weight. Also, in rough waves, standing in the "navigator station", with your head sticking out the aft hatch, you rarely put your
fully weight on it, if ever.
>Ya, and I wouldn't raise them. They are cozy as designed, you roll up against the bilge panel and get quite comfortable.
> I don't understand "raising the berths." There's just sitting head room
> under the fore-deck now????
>
Now you've done it, I'm wanting to go sailing again!
> Most of the time there will be just two of us (plus an 80 lb Lab) aboard.You will be very surprised how roomy it is, with the cabin doors latched forward, it's almost like being in a 20ft open boat.
> It's got to be roomier than the Sunfish.
>
Thanks. It doesn't look so good in person, but photo tricks cover a
multitude of flaws. (The camera lens doesn't really distort that badly.)
Next it gets a thick coat of paint ;-)
Those six foot clothespins were a mistake and contributed to the model's
ugliness. I should have taken the time to glue the ladder together solidly.
Rushing sure does slow things down.
I'm building the "Cruising Conversion," but the model hasn't gotten there
yet. I'm sneaking up on the structure needed to keep the roof (upper deck?)
intact when some teenager decides to sunbathe there. One problem is that so
much of it is cut away for hatches. The corners by the companionway where
one will naturally grab when tossed about in a rough wake are cantilevered
out in space and won't keep 200 lbs aloft without I make them from
unobtainium or add a lot of head-knocking structure. Maybe I'll build them
as a break-away item which is easily repaired.
I think the 12"=1' 0" version will be easier. I'll be able to get inside to
make marks showing where to saw. One gotcha is that the PCB drawing is for
the plywood version and the lapstrake is about 3" wider. I guess I'm lucky
the model made that obvious before I started cutting up the occume. The
write-up that came with the plans did suggest that one should measure the
boat being converted rather than scale things off the plans. Anyway, I view
the "cabin" as more of a Bimini to keep the sun and rain off. Sleeping
aboard will be rare, I'm afraid.
I don't understand "raising the berths." There's just sitting head room
under the fore-deck now????
Most of the time there will be just two of us (plus an 80 lb Lab) aboard.
It's got to be roomier than the Sunfish.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
multitude of flaws. (The camera lens doesn't really distort that badly.)
Next it gets a thick coat of paint ;-)
Those six foot clothespins were a mistake and contributed to the model's
ugliness. I should have taken the time to glue the ladder together solidly.
Rushing sure does slow things down.
I'm building the "Cruising Conversion," but the model hasn't gotten there
yet. I'm sneaking up on the structure needed to keep the roof (upper deck?)
intact when some teenager decides to sunbathe there. One problem is that so
much of it is cut away for hatches. The corners by the companionway where
one will naturally grab when tossed about in a rough wake are cantilevered
out in space and won't keep 200 lbs aloft without I make them from
unobtainium or add a lot of head-knocking structure. Maybe I'll build them
as a break-away item which is easily repaired.
I think the 12"=1' 0" version will be easier. I'll be able to get inside to
make marks showing where to saw. One gotcha is that the PCB drawing is for
the plywood version and the lapstrake is about 3" wider. I guess I'm lucky
the model made that obvious before I started cutting up the occume. The
write-up that came with the plans did suggest that one should measure the
boat being converted rather than scale things off the plans. Anyway, I view
the "cabin" as more of a Bimini to keep the sun and rain off. Sleeping
aboard will be rare, I'm afraid.
I don't understand "raising the berths." There's just sitting head room
under the fore-deck now????
Most of the time there will be just two of us (plus an 80 lb Lab) aboard.
It's got to be roomier than the Sunfish.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "paul_romayne" <paul_romayne@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: chebacco model
> Roger, very nice model - it brought back memories of building a full-
> sized Chebacco, except I didn't have any six-foot-long clothespins to
> clamp things with.
>
> A couple of thoughts and suggestions: I think you will find the
> cockpit very small - two people will be very cozy. This is no problem
> if you are going to be single-handing the boat. Raising the berths to
> the level of the seats will give you both more lounging options and
> copious storage space under.
>
> Romayne
Roger, very nice model - it brought back memories of building a full-
sized Chebacco, except I didn't have any six-foot-long clothespins to
clamp things with.
A couple of thoughts and suggestions: I think you will find the
cockpit very small - two people will be very cozy. This is no problem
if you are going to be single-handing the boat. Raising the berths to
the level of the seats will give you both more lounging options and
copious storage space under.
Romayne
sized Chebacco, except I didn't have any six-foot-long clothespins to
clamp things with.
A couple of thoughts and suggestions: I think you will find the
cockpit very small - two people will be very cozy. This is no problem
if you are going to be single-handing the boat. Raising the berths to
the level of the seats will give you both more lounging options and
copious storage space under.
Romayne
I'm still at the planning, modelbuilding, stage; but the lapstrake has a
very slightly greater interior volume; e.g. the beam is a few inches greater
and the round bilges also add volume. The write-ups suggest that any
differences in performance would require very carefully controlled trials to
measure.
Seehttp://derbyrm.mystarband.net/Chebacco.html
Roger
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http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
very slightly greater interior volume; e.g. the beam is a few inches greater
and the round bilges also add volume. The write-ups suggest that any
differences in performance would require very carefully controlled trials to
measure.
Seehttp://derbyrm.mystarband.net/Chebacco.html
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "bd5194" <reenbrad@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:26 AM
Subject: [bolger] chebacco
> Hi all, first post here. Was just admiring Chebacco "again" recently,
> as I've done on and off for about 5 years. Just wondering if anyone
> could tell me about any differences, other than looks of course,
> between the lapstrake and ply version. I've built in ply before,
> canoe and a kayak, this would be the first "full-size" project. Just
> wonder about major differences, handling, interior space etc. I would
> imagine the ONLY major difference is ease and speed of construction,
> thats why so many more ply versions are built! or at least it seems
> so from what I can find on the net. Anyway, just pondering about
> which plan to ponder. Any thoughts, comments appreciated. BD
bd5194 wrote:
Wooden Boat magazine. I don't think they found much difference in handling or speed. The
cold molded bolt is the most expensive; the ply took a lot of fiberglass; the lapstreak
seemed to have the most initial stability, while not so easy to tell, "Where she hove down."
Playing with the three, they began to lose track of which one they were on.
Mark
>If you send me your regular address, I'll return a nice article on the three versions from
Wooden Boat magazine. I don't think they found much difference in handling or speed. The
cold molded bolt is the most expensive; the ply took a lot of fiberglass; the lapstreak
seemed to have the most initial stability, while not so easy to tell, "Where she hove down."
Playing with the three, they began to lose track of which one they were on.
Mark
> Hi all, first post here. Was just admiring Chebacco "again" recently,
> as I've done on and off for about 5 years. Just wondering if anyone
> could tell me about any differences, other than looks of course,
> between the lapstrake and ply version. I've built in ply before,
> canoe and a kayak, this would be the first "full-size" project. Just
> wonder about major differences, handling, interior space etc. I would
> imagine the ONLY major difference is ease and speed of construction,
> thats why so many more ply versions are built! or at least it seems
> so from what I can find on the net. Anyway, just pondering about
> which plan to ponder. Any thoughts, comments appreciated. BD
Hi all, first post here. Was just admiring Chebacco "again" recently,
as I've done on and off for about 5 years. Just wondering if anyone
could tell me about any differences, other than looks of course,
between the lapstrake and ply version. I've built in ply before,
canoe and a kayak, this would be the first "full-size" project. Just
wonder about major differences, handling, interior space etc. I would
imagine the ONLY major difference is ease and speed of construction,
thats why so many more ply versions are built! or at least it seems
so from what I can find on the net. Anyway, just pondering about
which plan to ponder. Any thoughts, comments appreciated. BD
as I've done on and off for about 5 years. Just wondering if anyone
could tell me about any differences, other than looks of course,
between the lapstrake and ply version. I've built in ply before,
canoe and a kayak, this would be the first "full-size" project. Just
wonder about major differences, handling, interior space etc. I would
imagine the ONLY major difference is ease and speed of construction,
thats why so many more ply versions are built! or at least it seems
so from what I can find on the net. Anyway, just pondering about
which plan to ponder. Any thoughts, comments appreciated. BD