[bolger] Re: Who likes Surf ?
FBBB,
The first Bolger boat I built was a Teal, but if I had it to do over
again, I'd have built the Surf for sure.
YIBB,
David
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The first Bolger boat I built was a Teal, but if I had it to do over
again, I'd have built the Surf for sure.
YIBB,
David
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296
"She (Surf) sails great and is an exciting boat at speed, being
closer to the waterline than I'm used to," Col wrote. I agree
totally; indeed, that water surges up mighty fast in a gust for a
chicken-sh*t sailor like me. I replaced Bolger's leeboard and rudder
with Michalak designs, the downside being that I lost the more
forward rowing position as a result. Surf rows very easily -- skims
right along with the dog and I aboard (about 280 lb.) -- and I added
a removable seat aft for a passenger. Dipping the flip-up ruddder
just a touch provides needed directional stability. I'm less
enthusiasrtic about the sharpie sprit rig but that's particularly
relavant for me because of our narrow channel and quirky winds. I'm
considering a switch to some form of gaff rig so I can more easily
row or paddle (did I mention Surf paddles well) out of the channel
and then raise sail. If nothing else, Surf is a lovely, graceful
boat -- but that cutter-style bow does mean a longer trailer than
for other 15.5-ft. boats.
John
closer to the waterline than I'm used to," Col wrote. I agree
totally; indeed, that water surges up mighty fast in a gust for a
chicken-sh*t sailor like me. I replaced Bolger's leeboard and rudder
with Michalak designs, the downside being that I lost the more
forward rowing position as a result. Surf rows very easily -- skims
right along with the dog and I aboard (about 280 lb.) -- and I added
a removable seat aft for a passenger. Dipping the flip-up ruddder
just a touch provides needed directional stability. I'm less
enthusiasrtic about the sharpie sprit rig but that's particularly
relavant for me because of our narrow channel and quirky winds. I'm
considering a switch to some form of gaff rig so I can more easily
row or paddle (did I mention Surf paddles well) out of the channel
and then raise sail. If nothing else, Surf is a lovely, graceful
boat -- but that cutter-style bow does mean a longer trailer than
for other 15.5-ft. boats.
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "riverdonk4" <mcram@f...> wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "martha2005au" <micro@l...> wrote:
> >I like the looks of Surf. How does she row?
> Thanks
> Gene
> > I built Surf in lieu of her baby sister Teal because I wanted
more
> > room for a passenger, and something a bit faster. She sails
great
> > and is an exciting boat at speed, being closer to the waterline
> than
> > I'm used to. Building is just as easy, and she is still light
> enough
> > to take to the waterline on a set of dolly wheels single
handed.
> You
> > do need a trailer whereas a Teal might go into the back of a
pickup
> > or on a roof. (although I have seen a picture of Zephyr, Surfs
20
> > foot big sister, mounted on roof racks)
> >
> > Col
> >
> > -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loyseal1" <loyseal1@y...> wrote:
> > > Why does there seem to be less enthusiasm for Surf as opposed
> > > to Teal or Elegant Punt? Is there something I am missing? I
have
> an
> > > Elegant Punt and am looking to build a larger boat and would
love
> to
> > > use my existing sail. Your opinions please.
Loy,
I've asked the same question many times; about both Surf and Zephyr. #
times I've considered building one or the other, but never have done.
I can remember one of these times; I was wanting a boat in which to
teach my (then) pre-teens to sail. I wanted something that would hold
me and my 3 children (wife won't sail) and be safe for the kids alone.
Surf seemed to be minimum, with Zephyr more capable of the task. In
the end, I built neither because I didn't consider the sides to be
high enough to give safe freeboard for beginners. I bought and
restored an old outboard runabout and they never have learned to sail.
(heck, they've their entire lives ahead... plenty of time if they
really want to:-)
I don't know whether that's the reason for the relative lack of
interest vs. Teal, or if it is the idea that one can get out an entire
boat with just two sheets of ply with Teal. I know that's the reason
my brother (mistakenly) built a Teal. After he was done, he used it
very little as it would carry only him and one of his youger children.
He rowed it a bit, but it wasn't a good enough rowboat to reward the
work in the chop of the Chesapeake.
Cheers/The Fader
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because there are giants
standing on my shoulders"
I've asked the same question many times; about both Surf and Zephyr. #
times I've considered building one or the other, but never have done.
I can remember one of these times; I was wanting a boat in which to
teach my (then) pre-teens to sail. I wanted something that would hold
me and my 3 children (wife won't sail) and be safe for the kids alone.
Surf seemed to be minimum, with Zephyr more capable of the task. In
the end, I built neither because I didn't consider the sides to be
high enough to give safe freeboard for beginners. I bought and
restored an old outboard runabout and they never have learned to sail.
(heck, they've their entire lives ahead... plenty of time if they
really want to:-)
I don't know whether that's the reason for the relative lack of
interest vs. Teal, or if it is the idea that one can get out an entire
boat with just two sheets of ply with Teal. I know that's the reason
my brother (mistakenly) built a Teal. After he was done, he used it
very little as it would carry only him and one of his youger children.
He rowed it a bit, but it wasn't a good enough rowboat to reward the
work in the chop of the Chesapeake.
Cheers/The Fader
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because there are giants
standing on my shoulders"
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loyseal1" <loyseal1@y...> wrote:
> Why does there seem to be less enthusiasm for Surf as opposed
> to Teal or Elegant Punt? Is there something I am missing? I have an
> Elegant Punt and am looking to build a larger boat and would love to
> use my existing sail. Your opinions please.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "martha2005au" <micro@l...> wrote:
Gene
>I like the looks of Surf. How does she row?Thanks
Gene
> I built Surf in lieu of her baby sister Teal because I wanted morethan
> room for a passenger, and something a bit faster. She sails great
> and is an exciting boat at speed, being closer to the waterline
> I'm used to. Building is just as easy, and she is still lightenough
> to take to the waterline on a set of dolly wheels single handed.You
> do need a trailer whereas a Teal might go into the back of a pickupan
> or on a roof. (although I have seen a picture of Zephyr, Surfs 20
> foot big sister, mounted on roof racks)
>
> Col
>
> -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loyseal1" <loyseal1@y...> wrote:
> > Why does there seem to be less enthusiasm for Surf as opposed
> > to Teal or Elegant Punt? Is there something I am missing? I have
> > Elegant Punt and am looking to build a larger boat and would loveto
> > use my existing sail. Your opinions please.
I built Surf in lieu of her baby sister Teal because I wanted more
room for a passenger, and something a bit faster. She sails great
and is an exciting boat at speed, being closer to the waterline than
I'm used to. Building is just as easy, and she is still light enough
to take to the waterline on a set of dolly wheels single handed. You
do need a trailer whereas a Teal might go into the back of a pickup
or on a roof. (although I have seen a picture of Zephyr, Surfs 20
foot big sister, mounted on roof racks)
Col
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loyseal1" <loyseal1@y...> wrote:
room for a passenger, and something a bit faster. She sails great
and is an exciting boat at speed, being closer to the waterline than
I'm used to. Building is just as easy, and she is still light enough
to take to the waterline on a set of dolly wheels single handed. You
do need a trailer whereas a Teal might go into the back of a pickup
or on a roof. (although I have seen a picture of Zephyr, Surfs 20
foot big sister, mounted on roof racks)
Col
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loyseal1" <loyseal1@y...> wrote:
> Why does there seem to be less enthusiasm for Surf as opposed
> to Teal or Elegant Punt? Is there something I am missing? I have an
> Elegant Punt and am looking to build a larger boat and would love to
> use my existing sail. Your opinions please.
Why does there seem to be less enthusiasm for Surf as opposed
to Teal or Elegant Punt? Is there something I am missing? I have an
Elegant Punt and am looking to build a larger boat and would love to
use my existing sail. Your opinions please.
to Teal or Elegant Punt? Is there something I am missing? I have an
Elegant Punt and am looking to build a larger boat and would love to
use my existing sail. Your opinions please.