Re: beer ballast
I'd point out that as the beer ballast is consumed, the boat will
still ride on the same lines. Albeit stability could be affected if
the crew drinks the amber nectar too quickly and ignores calls of
nature for too long. This would have the unwanted state of affairs of
moving the ballast up to deck level for a spite.
Tippy or tippsy, at some point they'd be beyond caring or all wet!
As all good ale, porter, stout, lager, or shanty drinkers know, you
don't comsume beer of any kind, you simply rent it for a short while.
Since no self respecting eco-Bolgeristo or Bolgeresta would break any
sanitary laws (or admit it if they did), the weight in the boat will
remain the same.
The liquid ballast would be moving in a perpetual motion circle of
beer locker, to crew, to holding tank.
Bruce Hector
Yes, I'm quite aware of some of the US's better brews, and take great
joy in discovering new ones as I escape the frozen wilds of Canada.
But occasionally one finds oneself at a communal event, forced to buy
whatever barley sandwich the profiteering vendor chose to stock. Such
choices are usually based on whatever cheap mass produced beer was
cheapest when he ordered it. All to often the choice is bad beer,
light bad beer or something even worse. Pop or water. Pop, or "sodas"
as mu fellow southerners call it, I avoid like the plaque.
And water, is best left for boating upon. As W.C. Fields once said,
"Water, Never TOUCH the stuuuffff, fish &%$@ in it!"
still ride on the same lines. Albeit stability could be affected if
the crew drinks the amber nectar too quickly and ignores calls of
nature for too long. This would have the unwanted state of affairs of
moving the ballast up to deck level for a spite.
Tippy or tippsy, at some point they'd be beyond caring or all wet!
As all good ale, porter, stout, lager, or shanty drinkers know, you
don't comsume beer of any kind, you simply rent it for a short while.
Since no self respecting eco-Bolgeristo or Bolgeresta would break any
sanitary laws (or admit it if they did), the weight in the boat will
remain the same.
The liquid ballast would be moving in a perpetual motion circle of
beer locker, to crew, to holding tank.
Bruce Hector
Yes, I'm quite aware of some of the US's better brews, and take great
joy in discovering new ones as I escape the frozen wilds of Canada.
But occasionally one finds oneself at a communal event, forced to buy
whatever barley sandwich the profiteering vendor chose to stock. Such
choices are usually based on whatever cheap mass produced beer was
cheapest when he ordered it. All to often the choice is bad beer,
light bad beer or something even worse. Pop or water. Pop, or "sodas"
as mu fellow southerners call it, I avoid like the plaque.
And water, is best left for boating upon. As W.C. Fields once said,
"Water, Never TOUCH the stuuuffff, fish &%$@ in it!"
Mr. Graybeal, you are a credit to Bolgerites everywhere. Your sagacious
points are well-taken. I might note that as the beer ballast is consumed,
one is perhaps either less capable or less caring as far as maintaining the
angle of the horizontal goes....
David Romasco, on the right coast if you're facing north....
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From: David [mailto:arbordg@...]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:11 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: beer ballast
points are well-taken. I might note that as the beer ballast is consumed,
one is perhaps either less capable or less caring as far as maintaining the
angle of the horizontal goes....
David Romasco, on the right coast if you're facing north....
_____
From: David [mailto:arbordg@...]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:11 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: beer ballast
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@b...> wrote:
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
>
> I must caution our friends to the south NOT to try using their own,
> watery, hopless, maltless, noseless, dare I say tasteless brews as a
> thinner of the Gougeons, Rakas or Systemees Trois,.... their brews,
> and I use the term loosley, just don't have the body to do the job.
> as I mistakemly purchased something called a Miller Light from a
fine fellow of an fortutiuosly located American suds vendor,
>
> My point is, my darling li'l bo'sun's mate, the Big E, was able to
> quench her thirst with this, far too common hereabouts example of a
> southern, er, ale! She could not even notice a hint of the hoppy,
> yeasty, full bodied goodness that she absolutely hates.
Greetings,
I have to comment on this ruthless, entirely called for, attack on the
big-brewery products of the good ol' USofA. You're entirely correct.
They are substantially more thirst-quenching than flavorful. They are
not, however, ales. They technically pilsners. While ales tend to have
more body, it is possible to produce a flavorful pilsner. The
mega-breweries just choose not to. "People who drink 'lite' beer don't
like beer, they just like to pee a lot".
Thankfully, no one with a taste bud left to their name needs to
patronize these pitiful pretenders. The microbrew revolution has come.
Here in my area alone, there are 6-8 excellent mid-size breweries -
and scads of smaller breweries and brewpubs. Names like: Widmer;
Portland Brewing; Bridgeport; Hair of the Dog; Full Sail; Lucky
Labrador, et.al. They're brewing everything from India Pale Ale to
Rasberry Lambic to Oatmeal Stout. Many of them are winning awards, and
landing on the "best of" lists. There is also a local "amateur"
brewing club, which is an inspired incubator for very competent home
brewers. And Portland by no means has an exclusive on this welcome
ferment. You'll find similar developments in: Chico, CA; Boston; San
Francisco; Minneapolis; etc.
The problem I foresee with the beer-as-ballast scheme is this - as it
disappears, you need it more. Guess I'll just keep on consuming beer
as an internal, moveable ballast.
Prosit
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" -- Benj.
Franklin
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
I have to comment on this ruthless, entirely called for, attack on the
big-brewery products of the good ol' USofA. You're entirely correct.
They are substantially more thirst-quenching than flavorful. They are
not, however, ales. They technically pilsners. While ales tend to have
more body, it is possible to produce a flavorful pilsner. The
mega-breweries just choose not to. "People who drink 'lite' beer don't
like beer, they just like to pee a lot".
Thankfully, no one with a taste bud left to their name needs to
patronize these pitiful pretenders. The microbrew revolution has come.
Here in my area alone, there are 6-8 excellent mid-size breweries -
and scads of smaller breweries and brewpubs. Names like: Widmer;
Portland Brewing; Bridgeport; Hair of the Dog; Full Sail; Lucky
Labrador, et.al. They're brewing everything from India Pale Ale to
Rasberry Lambic to Oatmeal Stout. Many of them are winning awards, and
landing on the "best of" lists. There is also a local "amateur"
brewing club, which is an inspired incubator for very competent home
brewers. And Portland by no means has an exclusive on this welcome
ferment. You'll find similar developments in: Chico, CA; Boston; San
Francisco; Minneapolis; etc.
The problem I foresee with the beer-as-ballast scheme is this - as it
disappears, you need it more. Guess I'll just keep on consuming beer
as an internal, moveable ballast.
Prosit
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" -- Benj.
Franklin
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@b...> wrote:fine fellow of an fortutiuosly located American suds vendor,
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
>
> I must caution our friends to the south NOT to try using their own,
> watery, hopless, maltless, noseless, dare I say tasteless brews as a
> thinner of the Gougeons, Rakas or Systemees Trois,.... their brews,
> and I use the term loosley, just don't have the body to do the job.
> as I mistakemly purchased something called a Miller Light from a
>Greetings,
> My point is, my darling li'l bo'sun's mate, the Big E, was able to
> quench her thirst with this, far too common hereabouts example of a
> southern, er, ale! She could not even notice a hint of the hoppy,
> yeasty, full bodied goodness that she absolutely hates.
I have to comment on this ruthless, entirely called for, attack on the
big-brewery products of the good ol' USofA. You're entirely correct.
They are substantially more thirst-quenching than flavorful. They are
not, however, ales. They technically pilsners. While ales tend to have
more body, it is possible to produce a flavorful pilsner. The
mega-breweries just choose not to. "People who drink 'lite' beer don't
like beer, they just like to pee a lot".
Thankfully, no one with a taste bud left to their name needs to
patronize these pitiful pretenders. The microbrew revolution has come.
Here in my area alone, there are 6-8 excellent mid-size breweries -
and scads of smaller breweries and brewpubs. Names like: Widmer;
Portland Brewing; Bridgeport; Hair of the Dog; Full Sail; Lucky
Labrador, et.al. They're brewing everything from India Pale Ale to
Rasberry Lambic to Oatmeal Stout. Many of them are winning awards, and
landing on the "best of" lists. There is also a local "amateur"
brewing club, which is an inspired incubator for very competent home
brewers. And Portland by no means has an exclusive on this welcome
ferment. You'll find similar developments in: Chico, CA; Boston; San
Francisco; Minneapolis; etc.
The problem I foresee with the beer-as-ballast scheme is this - as it
disappears, you need it more. Guess I'll just keep on consuming beer
as an internal, moveable ballast.
Prosit
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" -- Benj.
Franklin
Frank, I did; had a kick like a mule, but tasted like one, too..... could it
have been because my brewing rig was aboard a boat at anchor?
David
_____
From: Frank Bales [mailto:fbales@...]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:20 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: beer ballast
David, you can defend American beer as long as it's not the stuff the
megabreweries make. Micro-brewed beers are everywhere and many are
excellent, but to experience the best in beer you must brew it yourself. I
believe a nice aged barleywine would be the perfect brew for launching a new
boat!
FrankB
-----Original Message-----
From: David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
I can't defend American beer (swill as most of it is, to be sure) . . .
Come to think of it, though, Sam Adams IS a robustly flavored beer, just
lacking in kick.
David Romasco, darn glad it's Friday and I can make more sawdust.
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have been because my brewing rig was aboard a boat at anchor?
David
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From: Frank Bales [mailto:fbales@...]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:20 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: beer ballast
David, you can defend American beer as long as it's not the stuff the
megabreweries make. Micro-brewed beers are everywhere and many are
excellent, but to experience the best in beer you must brew it yourself. I
believe a nice aged barleywine would be the perfect brew for launching a new
boat!
FrankB
-----Original Message-----
From: David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
I can't defend American beer (swill as most of it is, to be sure) . . .
Come to think of it, though, Sam Adams IS a robustly flavored beer, just
lacking in kick.
David Romasco, darn glad it's Friday and I can make more sawdust.
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David, you can defend American beer as long as it's not the stuff the
megabreweries make. Micro-brewed beers are everywhere and many are
excellent, but to experience the best in beer you must brew it yourself. I
believe a nice aged barleywine would be the perfect brew for launching a new
boat!
FrankB
-----Original Message-----
From: David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
I can't defend American beer (swill as most of it is, to be sure) . . .
Come to think of it, though, Sam Adams IS a robustly flavored beer, just
lacking in kick.
David Romasco, darn glad it's Friday and I can make more sawdust.
megabreweries make. Micro-brewed beers are everywhere and many are
excellent, but to experience the best in beer you must brew it yourself. I
believe a nice aged barleywine would be the perfect brew for launching a new
boat!
FrankB
-----Original Message-----
From: David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
I can't defend American beer (swill as most of it is, to be sure) . . .
Come to think of it, though, Sam Adams IS a robustly flavored beer, just
lacking in kick.
David Romasco, darn glad it's Friday and I can make more sawdust.
Bingo, Plonk (and can we forget the aptly-named Screech?): the romance of
the nectars of The Great White North.....
I can't defend American beer (swill as most of it is, to be sure), but at
least the various watery brews aren't named like kids in a street gang....
I wonder if American beer wouldn't make a good ballast substitute,
especially after the erudite thread regard water ballast recently (now,
should that water be outside the hull, or inside above the styrofoam
ballast?).
Come to think of it, though, Sam Adams IS a robustly flavored beer, just
lacking in kick.
David Romasco, darn glad it's Friday and I can make more sawdust
_____
From: Peter Lenihan [mailto:lestat@...]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:03 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: beer ballast
the nectars of The Great White North.....
I can't defend American beer (swill as most of it is, to be sure), but at
least the various watery brews aren't named like kids in a street gang....
I wonder if American beer wouldn't make a good ballast substitute,
especially after the erudite thread regard water ballast recently (now,
should that water be outside the hull, or inside above the styrofoam
ballast?).
Come to think of it, though, Sam Adams IS a robustly flavored beer, just
lacking in kick.
David Romasco, darn glad it's Friday and I can make more sawdust
_____
From: Peter Lenihan [mailto:lestat@...]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:03 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: beer ballast
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
> Isn't Maudite close to the density of lead anyway? I know it's
good at
> getting epoxy off your hands.....
>
> David "enquiring mind" Romasco
>
David,try pure ethenol for density comparisons regarding La Maudite.
However,La Blanche de Chambly,with its heavy bed of lees,might be
closer to lead.
Neverthless,most pirates would consider it an act of high treason to
waste the good juice just for ballast:-)
As for reports,various,concerning the use of La Maudite for removing
epoxy,I would like to caution anyone against this(again,a terrible
waste of the good juice) and suspect that our resident Mouton Noir
de Kingston may have been under the spell of his own batch of Plonk
(known as Bingo,in the Canadian maritimes).I hesitate to suggest and
wish not to sully Le Barons' sterling reputation, but his batch of
Chateau du Depanneur may have been THAT close to actual vinager,a
known epoxy wash,thus explaining his alledged success in removing
epoxy from his body parts various.
There now,I hope that is clear and all this aweful wasting of good
beer will cease,tout suit:-D
Sincerely,
Peter,Le Bartard de Nowhere,Lenihan
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A man after my own heart. This one goes to my archives!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hector [mailto:bruce_hector@...]
I must further caution our erstwhile readers against using beer as
(especially fine Canadian brews, even homemade plonk) as an epoxy
remover.
This is simply not possible, and can lead to all sorts of disasters....
I know from many years of experience that fine hop juice, is just the
opposite. Yes good Canadian beer, in all it's fine flavours, colours,
hues, bouquettes and noses has proven out to be a fine epoxy, er, ...
extender. Were it not for the extravagant pricing of the "Freres
Gougeon" such a heresy 'twoud not be nesessary, and the secret may
have remained undiscovered forever.
Why half the fillets in my boats are a random, sloppy mix of sawdust,
epoxy and beer! All have proven bull strong, and skunk tight in the
adversity of the seas and, well, let's face it, ponds, that my highly
skilled, hand craftedcrafted, work boat finnish, members of the fleet
have had the temerity to cross.
On most days, you can still catch a hint of the bouquet de hops rising
from the joiner work, unles of course, the breeze is from the east.
I must caution our friends to the south NOT to try using their own,
watery, hopless, maltless, noseless, dare I say tasteless brews as a
thinner of the Gougeons, Rakas or Systemees Trois,.... their brews,
and I use the term loosley, just don't have the body to do the job.
My own darling Elaine, who can't stand the fine aroma or taste of a
good English, European, Cannuck, or even a rough outback finsih of a
poor Ozzie Fosters can quaff a cold Bud Light like water. Why just
last week at the quaint Tampa Bay pirate festival of Jose Gasparilla,
as I mistakemly purchased something called a Miller Light from a fine
fellow of an fortutiuosly located American suds vendor, happily
located next to the lamp pole I was assisting in its attempts at
verticality, sold me for a princely sum. Seems pirates have a
reputation of having pockets and other clothing compartments (just
what is a "Codpiece" and why does everyone think this straping example
of a northern hunk has one inside his trousers?) full of gold and
silver dubloons and piece's o' eight. Anyhows, I digress....
My point is, my darling li'l bo'sun's mate, the Big E, was able to
quench her thirst with this, far too common hereabouts example of a
southern, er, ale! She could not even notice a hint of the hoppy,
yeasty, full bodied goodness that she absolutely hates. There is
currently playing down here, on the idiot box, a commercial in which
an actor, while sipping his brew, looks up and starts to scream, :I
can't taste my beer, I CAN'T TASTE MY BEER" over and over. This soon
leads to every one in the saloon to start screaming the same horrible
sentence, rapidly this digresses to hords of our poor, un-hopped US
friends running in the streets recanting the "I CAN'Y TASTE MY BEER" rant.
I must say this spot causes me to chuckle as I sip on an (imported, of
course) Guiness, Heinekem or Newcastle Nut Brown while awaiting the
long awaited spring thaw so that I can once again return to my
seasonaly frozen homeland and share a Maudite with my snowed in ami,
le Batard de Longueille, once again.
Le Mouton Noir de la Bai de Tampa
Bo'sun Blackhand Bruce Hectoir
p.s. As for using such lovely nectars as fine Canadian brews for
ballast, it is a wholely unsafe practice. One could soon turn turlte
and hopefully, quickly be rescued by the men in bright orange tights
amid a debris field of bobbing, colourfully, shiny, yet strangley
empty, weightless, and ballastless cans, bottles, kegs and assorted
"beverage containment units"
This however would be an excellent use of several crates, pallets, or
container loads (all depending on the ballast needs of your craft, and
the conditions on which you were planning to operate it) of such fine
products, merchandise, metal craft advertising media, as an American
light, ultra-light, dry finish, ultar=clear, or even normal can of suds.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCoastRowingClub/
The club that exists solely due to the forsight of The Pub Waterfront
Restaurant and Lounge's owner, a Mr. Steve Westphal, in stocking
Guiness, and other exotic brews, at his fime, waterfrony, watering
hole, of a Tikki Bar (whatever THAT is!) down here on the sides of the
sunny, steamy, hot, Intracoastal Waterway.
Don't cry in your Bras D'Or Peter. It's un-manly!
FrankB
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hector [mailto:bruce_hector@...]
I must further caution our erstwhile readers against using beer as
(especially fine Canadian brews, even homemade plonk) as an epoxy
remover.
This is simply not possible, and can lead to all sorts of disasters....
I know from many years of experience that fine hop juice, is just the
opposite. Yes good Canadian beer, in all it's fine flavours, colours,
hues, bouquettes and noses has proven out to be a fine epoxy, er, ...
extender. Were it not for the extravagant pricing of the "Freres
Gougeon" such a heresy 'twoud not be nesessary, and the secret may
have remained undiscovered forever.
Why half the fillets in my boats are a random, sloppy mix of sawdust,
epoxy and beer! All have proven bull strong, and skunk tight in the
adversity of the seas and, well, let's face it, ponds, that my highly
skilled, hand craftedcrafted, work boat finnish, members of the fleet
have had the temerity to cross.
On most days, you can still catch a hint of the bouquet de hops rising
from the joiner work, unles of course, the breeze is from the east.
I must caution our friends to the south NOT to try using their own,
watery, hopless, maltless, noseless, dare I say tasteless brews as a
thinner of the Gougeons, Rakas or Systemees Trois,.... their brews,
and I use the term loosley, just don't have the body to do the job.
My own darling Elaine, who can't stand the fine aroma or taste of a
good English, European, Cannuck, or even a rough outback finsih of a
poor Ozzie Fosters can quaff a cold Bud Light like water. Why just
last week at the quaint Tampa Bay pirate festival of Jose Gasparilla,
as I mistakemly purchased something called a Miller Light from a fine
fellow of an fortutiuosly located American suds vendor, happily
located next to the lamp pole I was assisting in its attempts at
verticality, sold me for a princely sum. Seems pirates have a
reputation of having pockets and other clothing compartments (just
what is a "Codpiece" and why does everyone think this straping example
of a northern hunk has one inside his trousers?) full of gold and
silver dubloons and piece's o' eight. Anyhows, I digress....
My point is, my darling li'l bo'sun's mate, the Big E, was able to
quench her thirst with this, far too common hereabouts example of a
southern, er, ale! She could not even notice a hint of the hoppy,
yeasty, full bodied goodness that she absolutely hates. There is
currently playing down here, on the idiot box, a commercial in which
an actor, while sipping his brew, looks up and starts to scream, :I
can't taste my beer, I CAN'T TASTE MY BEER" over and over. This soon
leads to every one in the saloon to start screaming the same horrible
sentence, rapidly this digresses to hords of our poor, un-hopped US
friends running in the streets recanting the "I CAN'Y TASTE MY BEER" rant.
I must say this spot causes me to chuckle as I sip on an (imported, of
course) Guiness, Heinekem or Newcastle Nut Brown while awaiting the
long awaited spring thaw so that I can once again return to my
seasonaly frozen homeland and share a Maudite with my snowed in ami,
le Batard de Longueille, once again.
Le Mouton Noir de la Bai de Tampa
Bo'sun Blackhand Bruce Hectoir
p.s. As for using such lovely nectars as fine Canadian brews for
ballast, it is a wholely unsafe practice. One could soon turn turlte
and hopefully, quickly be rescued by the men in bright orange tights
amid a debris field of bobbing, colourfully, shiny, yet strangley
empty, weightless, and ballastless cans, bottles, kegs and assorted
"beverage containment units"
This however would be an excellent use of several crates, pallets, or
container loads (all depending on the ballast needs of your craft, and
the conditions on which you were planning to operate it) of such fine
products, merchandise, metal craft advertising media, as an American
light, ultra-light, dry finish, ultar=clear, or even normal can of suds.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCoastRowingClub/
The club that exists solely due to the forsight of The Pub Waterfront
Restaurant and Lounge's owner, a Mr. Steve Westphal, in stocking
Guiness, and other exotic brews, at his fime, waterfrony, watering
hole, of a Tikki Bar (whatever THAT is!) down here on the sides of the
sunny, steamy, hot, Intracoastal Waterway.
Don't cry in your Bras D'Or Peter. It's un-manly!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@b...> wrote:
(especially fine Canadian brews, even homemade plonk) as an epoxy
remover.
This is simply not possible, and can lead to all sorts of disasters....
I know from many years of experience that fine hop juice, is just the
opposite. Yes good Canadian beer, in all it's fine flavours, colours,
hues, bouquettes and noses has proven out to be a fine epoxy, er, ...
extender. Were it not for the extravagant pricing of the "Freres
Gougeon" such a heresy 'twoud not be nesessary, and the secret may
have remained undiscovered forever.
Why half the fillets in my boats are a random, sloppy mix of sawdust,
epoxy and beer! All have proven bull strong, and skunk tight in the
adversity of the seas and, well, let's face it, ponds, that my highly
skilled, hand craftedcrafted, work boat finnish, members of the fleet
have had the temerity to cross.
On most days, you can still catch a hint of the bouquet de hops rising
from the joiner work, unles of course, the breeze is from the east.
I must caution our friends to the south NOT to try using their own,
watery, hopless, maltless, noseless, dare I say tasteless brews as a
thinner of the Gougeons, Rakas or Systemees Trois,.... their brews,
and I use the term loosley, just don't have the body to do the job.
My own darling Elaine, who can't stand the fine aroma or taste of a
good English, European, Cannuck, or even a rough outback finsih of a
poor Ozzie Fosters can quaff a cold Bud Light like water. Why just
last week at the quaint Tampa Bay pirate festival of Jose Gasparilla,
as I mistakemly purchased something called a Miller Light from a fine
fellow of an fortutiuosly located American suds vendor, happily
located next to the lamp pole I was assisting in its attempts at
verticality, sold me for a princely sum. Seems pirates have a
reputation of having pockets and other clothing compartments (just
what is a "Codpiece" and why does everyone think this straping example
of a northern hunk has one inside his trousers?) full of gold and
silver dubloons and piece's o' eight. Anyhows, I digress....
My point is, my darling li'l bo'sun's mate, the Big E, was able to
quench her thirst with this, far too common hereabouts example of a
southern, er, ale! She could not even notice a hint of the hoppy,
yeasty, full bodied goodness that she absolutely hates. There is
currently playing down here, on the idiot box, a commercial in which
an actor, while sipping his brew, looks up and starts to scream, :I
can't taste my beer, I CAN'T TASTE MY BEER" over and over. This soon
leads to every one in the saloon to start screaming the same horrible
sentence, rapidly this digresses to hords of our poor, un-hopped US
friends running in the streets recanting the "I CAN'Y TASTE MY BEER" rant.
I must say this spot causes me to chuckle as I sip on an (imported, of
course) Guiness, Heinekem or Newcastle Nut Brown while awaiting the
long awaited spring thaw so that I can once again return to my
seasonaly frozen homeland and share a Maudite with my snowed in ami,
le Batard de Longueille, once again.
Le Mouton Noir de la Bai de Tampa
Bo'sun Blackhand Bruce Hectoir
p.s. As for using such lovely nectars as fine Canadian brews for
ballast, it is a wholely unsafe practice. One could soon turn turlte
and hopefully, quickly be rescued by the men in bright orange tights
amid a debris field of bobbing, colourfully, shiny, yet strangley
empty, weightless, and ballastless cans, bottles, kegs and assorted
"beverage containment units"
This however would be an excellent use of several crates, pallets, or
container loads (all depending on the ballast needs of your craft, and
the conditions on which you were planning to operate it) of such fine
products, merchandise, metal craft advertising media, as an American
light, ultra-light, dry finish, ultar=clear, or even normal can of suds.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCoastRowingClub/
The club that exists solely due to the forsight of The Pub Waterfront
Restaurant and Lounge's owner, a Mr. Steve Westphal, in stocking
Guiness, and other exotic brews, at his fime, waterfrony, watering
hole, of a Tikki Bar (whatever THAT is!) down here on the sides of the
sunny, steamy, hot, Intracoastal Waterway.
Don't cry in your Bras D'Or Peter. It's un-manly!
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:I must further caution our erstwhile readers against using beer as
> > Isn't Maudite close to the density of lead anyway? I know it's
> good at
> > getting epoxy off your hands.....
(especially fine Canadian brews, even homemade plonk) as an epoxy
remover.
This is simply not possible, and can lead to all sorts of disasters....
I know from many years of experience that fine hop juice, is just the
opposite. Yes good Canadian beer, in all it's fine flavours, colours,
hues, bouquettes and noses has proven out to be a fine epoxy, er, ...
extender. Were it not for the extravagant pricing of the "Freres
Gougeon" such a heresy 'twoud not be nesessary, and the secret may
have remained undiscovered forever.
Why half the fillets in my boats are a random, sloppy mix of sawdust,
epoxy and beer! All have proven bull strong, and skunk tight in the
adversity of the seas and, well, let's face it, ponds, that my highly
skilled, hand craftedcrafted, work boat finnish, members of the fleet
have had the temerity to cross.
On most days, you can still catch a hint of the bouquet de hops rising
from the joiner work, unles of course, the breeze is from the east.
I must caution our friends to the south NOT to try using their own,
watery, hopless, maltless, noseless, dare I say tasteless brews as a
thinner of the Gougeons, Rakas or Systemees Trois,.... their brews,
and I use the term loosley, just don't have the body to do the job.
My own darling Elaine, who can't stand the fine aroma or taste of a
good English, European, Cannuck, or even a rough outback finsih of a
poor Ozzie Fosters can quaff a cold Bud Light like water. Why just
last week at the quaint Tampa Bay pirate festival of Jose Gasparilla,
as I mistakemly purchased something called a Miller Light from a fine
fellow of an fortutiuosly located American suds vendor, happily
located next to the lamp pole I was assisting in its attempts at
verticality, sold me for a princely sum. Seems pirates have a
reputation of having pockets and other clothing compartments (just
what is a "Codpiece" and why does everyone think this straping example
of a northern hunk has one inside his trousers?) full of gold and
silver dubloons and piece's o' eight. Anyhows, I digress....
My point is, my darling li'l bo'sun's mate, the Big E, was able to
quench her thirst with this, far too common hereabouts example of a
southern, er, ale! She could not even notice a hint of the hoppy,
yeasty, full bodied goodness that she absolutely hates. There is
currently playing down here, on the idiot box, a commercial in which
an actor, while sipping his brew, looks up and starts to scream, :I
can't taste my beer, I CAN'T TASTE MY BEER" over and over. This soon
leads to every one in the saloon to start screaming the same horrible
sentence, rapidly this digresses to hords of our poor, un-hopped US
friends running in the streets recanting the "I CAN'Y TASTE MY BEER" rant.
I must say this spot causes me to chuckle as I sip on an (imported, of
course) Guiness, Heinekem or Newcastle Nut Brown while awaiting the
long awaited spring thaw so that I can once again return to my
seasonaly frozen homeland and share a Maudite with my snowed in ami,
le Batard de Longueille, once again.
Le Mouton Noir de la Bai de Tampa
Bo'sun Blackhand Bruce Hectoir
p.s. As for using such lovely nectars as fine Canadian brews for
ballast, it is a wholely unsafe practice. One could soon turn turlte
and hopefully, quickly be rescued by the men in bright orange tights
amid a debris field of bobbing, colourfully, shiny, yet strangley
empty, weightless, and ballastless cans, bottles, kegs and assorted
"beverage containment units"
This however would be an excellent use of several crates, pallets, or
container loads (all depending on the ballast needs of your craft, and
the conditions on which you were planning to operate it) of such fine
products, merchandise, metal craft advertising media, as an American
light, ultra-light, dry finish, ultar=clear, or even normal can of suds.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCoastRowingClub/
The club that exists solely due to the forsight of The Pub Waterfront
Restaurant and Lounge's owner, a Mr. Steve Westphal, in stocking
Guiness, and other exotic brews, at his fime, waterfrony, watering
hole, of a Tikki Bar (whatever THAT is!) down here on the sides of the
sunny, steamy, hot, Intracoastal Waterway.
Don't cry in your Bras D'Or Peter. It's un-manly!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
However,La Blanche de Chambly,with its heavy bed of lees,might be
closer to lead.
Neverthless,most pirates would consider it an act of high treason to
waste the good juice just for ballast:-)
As for reports,various,concerning the use of La Maudite for removing
epoxy,I would like to caution anyone against this(again,a terrible
waste of the good juice) and suspect that our resident Mouton Noir
de Kingston may have been under the spell of his own batch of Plonk
(known as Bingo,in the Canadian maritimes).I hesitate to suggest and
wish not to sully Le Barons' sterling reputation, but his batch of
Chateau du Depanneur may have been THAT close to actual vinager,a
known epoxy wash,thus explaining his alledged success in removing
epoxy from his body parts various.
There now,I hope that is clear and all this aweful wasting of good
beer will cease,tout suit:-D
Sincerely,
Peter,Le Bartard de Nowhere,Lenihan
> Isn't Maudite close to the density of lead anyway? I know it'sgood at
> getting epoxy off your hands.....David,try pure ethenol for density comparisons regarding La Maudite.
>
> David "enquiring mind" Romasco
>
However,La Blanche de Chambly,with its heavy bed of lees,might be
closer to lead.
Neverthless,most pirates would consider it an act of high treason to
waste the good juice just for ballast:-)
As for reports,various,concerning the use of La Maudite for removing
epoxy,I would like to caution anyone against this(again,a terrible
waste of the good juice) and suspect that our resident Mouton Noir
de Kingston may have been under the spell of his own batch of Plonk
(known as Bingo,in the Canadian maritimes).I hesitate to suggest and
wish not to sully Le Barons' sterling reputation, but his batch of
Chateau du Depanneur may have been THAT close to actual vinager,a
known epoxy wash,thus explaining his alledged success in removing
epoxy from his body parts various.
There now,I hope that is clear and all this aweful wasting of good
beer will cease,tout suit:-D
Sincerely,
Peter,Le Bartard de Nowhere,Lenihan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dnjost" <djost@m...> wrote:
Peter Lenihan,recalling his wasted,poverty stricken youth when we
would be three on a beer,using straws, for that special kick in the
pants effect............
> R.A. David "Lord Nelson" JostWhy.......with a straw,of course! :-D
> "happily dreaming of winds abeam, sheet in one hand, tiller in the
> other...now, how do I eat my lunch with both hands full?"
Peter Lenihan,recalling his wasted,poverty stricken youth when we
would be three on a beer,using straws, for that special kick in the
pants effect............
> Peter" 3 beers short of a case" Lenihan,always ready for somemerry
> mayhem while the cat's away,from along the shores of theLOL. peter. you are waaayyyy behind. Now let's get those wrists
> St.Lawrence.......
in shape.
Now, if I could just remember where I put that stack of MDO and the
leftover epoxy from Firefly??? It must be close to talk like a
pirate day.
R.A. David "Lord Nelson" Jost
"happily dreaming of winds abeam, sheet in one hand, tiller in the
other...now, how do I eat my lunch with both hands full?"
Isn't Maudite close to the density of lead anyway? I know it's good at
getting epoxy off your hands.....
David "enquiring mind" Romasco
_____
From: dnjost [mailto:djost@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:43 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] beer ballast
in shape.
Now, if I could just remember where I put that stack of MDO and the
leftover epoxy from Firefly??? It must be close to talk like a
pirate day.
R.A. David "Lord Nelson" Jost
"happily dreaming of winds abeam, sheet in one hand, tiller in the
other...now, how do I eat my lunch with both hands full?"
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getting epoxy off your hands.....
David "enquiring mind" Romasco
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From: dnjost [mailto:djost@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:43 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] beer ballast
> Peter" 3 beers short of a case" Lenihan,always ready for somemerry
> mayhem while the cat's away,from along the shores of theLOL. peter. you are waaayyyy behind. Now let's get those wrists
> St.Lawrence.......
in shape.
Now, if I could just remember where I put that stack of MDO and the
leftover epoxy from Firefly??? It must be close to talk like a
pirate day.
R.A. David "Lord Nelson" Jost
"happily dreaming of winds abeam, sheet in one hand, tiller in the
other...now, how do I eat my lunch with both hands full?"
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dnjost" <djost@m...> wrote:
I think that
> we need a more scientific study of the specific gravity of water as
> compared to Guinness or perhaps Pilsner Urquel, now there is a
> worthy cause!
>
> I mean - who would care if there were actually a capsize? Perhaps
a
> pontoon/sponson filled with the stuff might work. Bring along
hops,
> wheat, rye, what have you and power the engine with the byproducts.
> David Jost
> "slowly losing whatever was left"
Now there's a man after after me own heart and spoken like a true
sailor!
Who in God's name needs to haul water around,for ballast,anyway when
we sail in the stuff all the time? Leave the pedestrian task of
ballast to the lowly lead or common rocks,dump the water,and load up
with beer! Like David so beautifuly stated,"who would care if there
actually were a capsize?!" Besides,it is well known that consuming
glorious quantities of the stuff will lower ones inhibitions thus
increasing ones willingness to take risks and when we take risks,we
push the envelope of knowledge just a wee bit further
along........and that is what science is all about,discovering new
limits :-)
Bravo to science and three cheers to David!! I'll vote for him as
fleet admiral and official dispenser of grog,brew,suds,nectar of the
gods,all alcohol,any alcohol at all future Bolger Messabouts,if he so
deams to grace us all with his presence :-D
Sincerely,
Peter" 3 beers short of a case" Lenihan,always ready for some merry
mayhem while the cat's away,from along the shores of the
St.Lawrence.......
Well...I for one have read enough about water ballast and will leave
my lead right where it is in the bilge of the catboat. I think that
we need a more scientific study of the specific gravity of water as
compared to Guinness or perhaps Pilsner Urquel, now there is a
worthy cause!
I mean - who would care if there were actually a capsize? Perhaps a
pontoon/sponson filled with the stuff might work. Bring along hops,
wheat, rye, what have you and power the engine with the byproducts.
Hmmm. ruminations for a Valentine's Day....Oh yes dear...I will be
right with you ;-o
David Jost
"slowly losing whatever was left"
my lead right where it is in the bilge of the catboat. I think that
we need a more scientific study of the specific gravity of water as
compared to Guinness or perhaps Pilsner Urquel, now there is a
worthy cause!
I mean - who would care if there were actually a capsize? Perhaps a
pontoon/sponson filled with the stuff might work. Bring along hops,
wheat, rye, what have you and power the engine with the byproducts.
Hmmm. ruminations for a Valentine's Day....Oh yes dear...I will be
right with you ;-o
David Jost
"slowly losing whatever was left"
Just a thought:
The specific gravity of wheat (in bulk) appears to be about the same
as water.
So the square-riggers that sailed from Australia to England could be
seen as "water ballasted"!
The specific gravity of wheat (in bulk) appears to be about the same
as water.
So the square-riggers that sailed from Australia to England could be
seen as "water ballasted"!