RE: RE: Pure PCB...

Note that those are TWO DIFFERENT exceptions.

>Paul Lefebvre wrote:
>If your anchor weighs at least 10x the displacement and your scope is less
>than 1:1, I believe your biggest problem will be sinking, not drifting!
>
>Paul L.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Lincoln Ross wrote:
>
>...and the anchor is allowed to weigh at least 10 times the
>displacement or 300 lbs., whichever is more.
>
>Oh, and here's another: if your scope is less than 1:1, you will drift.
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>

Actually, they may well be mutually exclusive, as 10X displacement should
probably lead to rendering the scope factor meaningless.....

DR

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From: Paul Lefebvre [mailto:paul@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:37 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] RE: RE: Pure PCB...

I know... I just couldn't resist!

sorry!

PL

-----Original Message-----
From: Lincoln Ross [mailto:lincolnr@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:19 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] RE: RE: Pure PCB...

Note that those are TWO DIFFERENT exceptions.

>Paul Lefebvre wrote:
>If your anchor weighs at least 10x the displacement and your scope is less
>than 1:1, I believe your biggest problem will be sinking, not drifting!

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I know... I just couldn't resist!

sorry!

PL

-----Original Message-----
From: Lincoln Ross [mailto:lincolnr@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:19 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] RE: RE: Pure PCB...

Note that those are TWO DIFFERENT exceptions.

>Paul Lefebvre wrote:
>If your anchor weighs at least 10x the displacement and your scope is less
>than 1:1, I believe your biggest problem will be sinking, not drifting!

If your anchor weighs at least 10x the displacement and your scope is less
than 1:1, I believe your biggest problem will be sinking, not drifting! ;-)

Paul L.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lincoln Ross [mailto:lincolnr@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:48 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] RE: Pure PCB...

...and the anchor is allowed to weigh at least 10 times the
displacement or 300 lbs., whichever is more.

Oh, and here's another: if your scope is less than 1:1, you will drift.

Can't pass it up. I would submit that in 999 out of 1000 cases an anchor
can be devised which will hold a boat in any conditions which that boat
is strong enough to take, provided that the water is less than 20 boat
lengths deep and the anchor is allowed to weigh at least 10 times the
displacement or 300 lbs., whichever is more. To be limited to usable
boats, of course, even though this anchor wouldn't be...

Oh, and here's another: if your scope is less than 1:1, you will drift.

>David Romasco wrote:
>Well said on all counts!
>
>Anyone who believes there is any eternal verity in anchoring (except one,
>and the exception proves the rule: You will ALWAYS have the wrong anchor in
>any conditions where it is sorely needed), should be immediately relieved of
>their voting rights, driver's license and most importantly their ability to
>genetically replicate themselves. We could hasten the process with
>jetskiers, IMHO: high octane fuel and throttles wired wide open (as if
>they've ever used any OTHER setting....).
>
>David "The Old Curmudgeon" Romasco (and my chattel agrees....)
>

No, no.... I meant, you wouldn't have it WITH you at the time..... still,
the 300 lb anchor DOES sound attractive as long as I'm not the one picking
it up!

The Navy had a lovely anchor that I saw many years back. It largely
revolved around the propellant from a 5-inch shell inside a device dropped
over the side that exploded on contact with the bottom (no, I do NOT know
how it knew when to explode on contacting a squishy bottom), driving an
expanding anchor into the guck. The intent was to create a serviceable
mooring in a hurry, not to be used as a casual anchoring device. Still, I
always thought it had great merit: sail into a lovely lagoon, drop the
'device', meet ALL your neighbors and harvest plenty of fish for dinner in
one brief and exciting interlude. After a grand entrance like that, I
guarantee NOBODY is going to swing into YOUR boat, no matter what
adjustments may be necessitated in either their scope or location. Sigh...
I suppose we really can't do that sort of thing, much like using jetskiers
as a substitute for sporting clays is frowned upon these days in the more
'civilized' locales.

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From: Lincoln Ross [mailto:lincolnr@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:48 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] RE: Pure PCB...

Can't pass it up. I would submit that in 999 out of 1000 cases an anchor
can be devised which will hold a boat in any conditions which that boat
is strong enough to take, provided that the water is less than 20 boat
lengths deep and the anchor is allowed to weigh at least 10 times the
displacement or 300 lbs., whichever is more. To be limited to usable
boats, of course, even though this anchor wouldn't be...

Oh, and here's another: if your scope is less than 1:1, you will drift.

>David Romasco wrote:
>Well said on all counts!
>
>Anyone who believes there is any eternal verity in anchoring (except one,
>and the exception proves the rule: You will ALWAYS have the wrong anchor

>any conditions where it is sorely needed), should be immediately relieved

>their voting rights, driver's license and most importantly their ability to
>genetically replicate themselves. We could hasten the process with
>jetskiers, IMHO: high octane fuel and throttles wired wide open (as if
>they've ever used any OTHER setting....).
>
>David "The Old Curmudgeon" Romasco (and my chattel agrees....)
>

--- antispray2001 wrote:

> Now, he didn't SPECIFICALLY rule
> out inboard power.....

Well said on all counts!

Anyone who believes there is any eternal verity in anchoring (except one,
and the exception proves the rule: You will ALWAYS have the wrong anchor in
any conditions where it is sorely needed), should be immediately relieved of
their voting rights, driver's license and most importantly their ability to
genetically replicate themselves. We could hasten the process with
jetskiers, IMHO: high octane fuel and throttles wired wide open (as if
they've ever used any OTHER setting....).

David "The Old Curmudgeon" Romasco (and my chattel agrees....)

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From: Bruce Hallman [mailto:bruce@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 2:55 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Pure PCB...

--- antispray2001 wrote:

> Now, he didn't SPECIFICALLY rule
> out inboard power.....

...Which is even more *pure PCB*
In his chapter on anchor design
he wrote that he is loath to
ever say "there ought to be a law".

I am presently reading _Schorpioen_
where he creates an astonishingly
plausible libertarian society, where
'taxation is theft', with no
government, only 'an army' which 'is
expected to be a profitable venture...
andis, without more than casual, usuallly
friendly intimidation.'

...and a 'Novel, highly arguable, yet
surprisingly palatable treatment of
women. They are men's chattels ...
yet they are always consulted in
questions of importance, and their
opinions are invariably followed.
There are not battered women. If a
man is completely untenable, his
woman can dispatch him with no fear
of recriminination."

He writes: There is something to be
said for a country where a good
fart is cause for congratulations.

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I was just filing some of my plans, and came across Design #526, for
a 20' dory. It was one of the old Elrow LaRowe designs. PCB had
added a VERY carefully inked note on the first sheet, saying:

"It's possible to rig this boat to sail, and to mount an outboard
motor. She will be a poor performer under sail, worse under power,
and will be more or less degraded for rowing in each case. Designer
won't cooperate in the process. PCB"

That's about as straightforward a piece of advice as any man could
desire, IMHO.

David Romasco

Now, he didn't SPECIFICALLY rule out inboard power.....