Re: [bolger] Re: Brushes and Epoxy
I want to thank everyone for their responses. A lot
of good ideas which I'll try. Especially the vinegar
which I had not thought of : )
Wr, Tim
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of good ideas which I'll try. Especially the vinegar
which I had not thought of : )
Wr, Tim
--- dkb715 <lburright@...> wrote:
> I've had good luck with a combination of the__________________________________
> suggestions already
> posted. I use the cheap brushes (the first time you
> use them watch
> out for loose bristles, but after that they're OK).
>
>
> I keep 4 plastic wide mouth gallon containers ready
> in my "cleaning"
> area. The first 2 have 1 1/2 to 2 inches of white
> vinegar in them.
> The other 2 have the same amounts of acetone.
>
> When I'm finished with a brush I immediately throw
> it in the first
> vinegar jug. Once it's there, you can go about
> other business and
> not worry about the epoxy getting hard in it. When
> I'm ready, I
> swirl the brush around in the jug to get the
> majority of the epoxy
> out of it. Then I do it in the 2nd vinegar jug to
> get a little more
> epoxy out, and then shake the brush out as best I
> can to get rid of
> excess vinegar.
>
> Next the brush goes in the 1st acetone jug. The
> acetone makes quick
> work of any remaining epoxy. The 2nd acetone jug is
> really just a
> rinse. Shake the brush out and within minutes it's
> dry enough to
> use again if you need to.
>
> Using this method the brushes last a very long time.
> I rotate the
> vinegar and acetone as they become too contaminated.
> I.E., the 2nd
> jug becomes the 1st jug, etc. By doing this, they
> too last a long
> time and it takes very little solvent. By doing the
> partial
> cleaning with the vinegar, you use very little of
> the acetone (which
> is much more expensive). The brushes come out
> extremely clean.
>
> I am curious about those who put their brushes in
> the freezer. With
> repeated thawing, don't they continue to set up and
> get hard? How
> many times can you do it that way?
>
> Dave B.
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Tim Rohrer
> <tgrohrer@y...> wrote:
> > Good Morning,
> >
> > I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean
> resin
> > out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get
> to
> > them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of
> you
> > have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work?
> I've
> > thought about trying the foam brushes?
> >
> > I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> >
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One habit I slipped into early on was leaving some hand tools covered
with epoxy to develop more character. Screwdriver handles in
particular develop tremendous character and grip after several
sessions. These special tools are designated as 'boat building tools'
and are hidden, from my wood working buddies, I mean they are
protected from the degrading rays of the sun when not in use. (Ok,
Ok, this happened before I learned about vinegar but I needed some
new tools anyway!)
Seriously, an idea that really works is to enclose your portable
power drill/screwdriver in one of those plastic grocery bags and tape
it closed if you will need to use it during an epoxy session. All
controls like the variable speed, reverse, etc. are done by feel
anyway and overheating isn't a problem unless you are doing quite a
few holes or screws at a time. I suppose you could cut vents in the
plastic for cooling, but I have never found that necessary. Being
sensitive to most chemicals, I find it is much easier and safer for
me to keep epoxy away from tools, skin, clothes than to clean it up
later.
Bob P.
A parting thought: While vinegar is great for removing epoxy from
tools and brushes it is also great for treating a sunburn. So if you
are sunburned and going to smell like a giant salad anyway, you might
as well work on your boat. Right?
with epoxy to develop more character. Screwdriver handles in
particular develop tremendous character and grip after several
sessions. These special tools are designated as 'boat building tools'
and are hidden, from my wood working buddies, I mean they are
protected from the degrading rays of the sun when not in use. (Ok,
Ok, this happened before I learned about vinegar but I needed some
new tools anyway!)
Seriously, an idea that really works is to enclose your portable
power drill/screwdriver in one of those plastic grocery bags and tape
it closed if you will need to use it during an epoxy session. All
controls like the variable speed, reverse, etc. are done by feel
anyway and overheating isn't a problem unless you are doing quite a
few holes or screws at a time. I suppose you could cut vents in the
plastic for cooling, but I have never found that necessary. Being
sensitive to most chemicals, I find it is much easier and safer for
me to keep epoxy away from tools, skin, clothes than to clean it up
later.
Bob P.
A parting thought: While vinegar is great for removing epoxy from
tools and brushes it is also great for treating a sunburn. So if you
are sunburned and going to smell like a giant salad anyway, you might
as well work on your boat. Right?
I've had good luck with a combination of the suggestions already
posted. I use the cheap brushes (the first time you use them watch
out for loose bristles, but after that they're OK).
I keep 4 plastic wide mouth gallon containers ready in my "cleaning"
area. The first 2 have 1 1/2 to 2 inches of white vinegar in them.
The other 2 have the same amounts of acetone.
When I'm finished with a brush I immediately throw it in the first
vinegar jug. Once it's there, you can go about other business and
not worry about the epoxy getting hard in it. When I'm ready, I
swirl the brush around in the jug to get the majority of the epoxy
out of it. Then I do it in the 2nd vinegar jug to get a little more
epoxy out, and then shake the brush out as best I can to get rid of
excess vinegar.
Next the brush goes in the 1st acetone jug. The acetone makes quick
work of any remaining epoxy. The 2nd acetone jug is really just a
rinse. Shake the brush out and within minutes it's dry enough to
use again if you need to.
Using this method the brushes last a very long time. I rotate the
vinegar and acetone as they become too contaminated. I.E., the 2nd
jug becomes the 1st jug, etc. By doing this, they too last a long
time and it takes very little solvent. By doing the partial
cleaning with the vinegar, you use very little of the acetone (which
is much more expensive). The brushes come out extremely clean.
I am curious about those who put their brushes in the freezer. With
repeated thawing, don't they continue to set up and get hard? How
many times can you do it that way?
Dave B.
posted. I use the cheap brushes (the first time you use them watch
out for loose bristles, but after that they're OK).
I keep 4 plastic wide mouth gallon containers ready in my "cleaning"
area. The first 2 have 1 1/2 to 2 inches of white vinegar in them.
The other 2 have the same amounts of acetone.
When I'm finished with a brush I immediately throw it in the first
vinegar jug. Once it's there, you can go about other business and
not worry about the epoxy getting hard in it. When I'm ready, I
swirl the brush around in the jug to get the majority of the epoxy
out of it. Then I do it in the 2nd vinegar jug to get a little more
epoxy out, and then shake the brush out as best I can to get rid of
excess vinegar.
Next the brush goes in the 1st acetone jug. The acetone makes quick
work of any remaining epoxy. The 2nd acetone jug is really just a
rinse. Shake the brush out and within minutes it's dry enough to
use again if you need to.
Using this method the brushes last a very long time. I rotate the
vinegar and acetone as they become too contaminated. I.E., the 2nd
jug becomes the 1st jug, etc. By doing this, they too last a long
time and it takes very little solvent. By doing the partial
cleaning with the vinegar, you use very little of the acetone (which
is much more expensive). The brushes come out extremely clean.
I am curious about those who put their brushes in the freezer. With
repeated thawing, don't they continue to set up and get hard? How
many times can you do it that way?
Dave B.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Tim Rohrer <tgrohrer@y...> wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
> out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
> them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
> have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
> thought about trying the foam brushes?
>
> I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
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Cheap chip brushes are the way to go, but if you need to clean epoxy off
tools, brushes, etc. get to it right away and use vinegar, which you can
probably buy cheaply by the gallon at the supermarket. Works better than
alcohol, and I think, tho I'm not sure, better than acetone.
tools, brushes, etc. get to it right away and use vinegar, which you can
probably buy cheaply by the gallon at the supermarket. Works better than
alcohol, and I think, tho I'm not sure, better than acetone.
>Tim Rohrer wrote:
>Good Morning,
>
>I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
>out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
>them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
>have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
>thought about trying the foam brushes?
>
>I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
>
>Cheers,
>Tim
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Don Tyson <tysond99@y...> wrote:
into the head of the brush and let them cure. This way the cheaply
bound brisltes won't pull out. Has anyone ever mentioned this at this
group? I've yet to try it.
Well now,that sure sounds like it will cure the real el cheapo
brushes biggest failing however, after filling close to 800 empty
screw holes with epoxy shot from a syringe into the bottom of
Windermere,I'm not too sure I would like the neighbours to see me
shooting up my brushes as well...........they already think I'm
nuts! :-D
Then again,if I get there early enough in the morning and sneek
under the bottom out of sight, I just may try this........
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
> Peter, Someone on the Triton Group told me that you can take the50cent brushes from RAKA and use a syringe to inject unthickend epoxy
into the head of the brush and let them cure. This way the cheaply
bound brisltes won't pull out. Has anyone ever mentioned this at this
group? I've yet to try it.
> DonHi Don,
Well now,that sure sounds like it will cure the real el cheapo
brushes biggest failing however, after filling close to 800 empty
screw holes with epoxy shot from a syringe into the bottom of
Windermere,I'm not too sure I would like the neighbours to see me
shooting up my brushes as well...........they already think I'm
nuts! :-D
Then again,if I get there early enough in the morning and sneek
under the bottom out of sight, I just may try this........
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
Peter, Someone on the Triton Group told me that you can take the 50cent brushes from RAKA and use a syringe to inject unthickend epoxy into the head of the brush and let them cure. This way the cheaply bound brisltes won't pull out. Has anyone ever mentioned this at this group? I've yet to try it.
Don
Peter Lenihan <lestat@...> wrote:
Don
Peter Lenihan <lestat@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Tim Rohrer wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
> out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
> them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
> have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
> thought about trying the foam brushes?
>
> I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
Tim,
I've had great success with plain white vinager. I simply fill up
a large plastic yogurt conatainer about half way and when I am
through with my brush(es),I dump them in the bucket.Next day or next
week when I need to use them,I simply give them a good rinsing under
water,dry them off and they are ready to go again.If you envision
doing alot of epoxy work with a brush,it would be good to get a
system going whereby you always have cleaned brushes already dried
for the work while another group is drying and yet another soaking in
the vinager. I noticed too that the really really el cheapo brushes
just fall apart after a single use. So I've come to use only cheap
brushes at about a buck a piece and not the others at 4 for a buck.
Vinager will also clean up all your tools which get epoxy on
them.Just don't wait until the stuff is cured before going at it with
the vinager.
And finally,it works great on your skin too for removing epoxy,so
long as you don't wait for the epoxy to cure :-). Oh sure,you may get
a hankering for some fries and friends will wonder where the hell the
smell of vinager is coming from.........have fun with it
......besides,after a few cold ones,I'll bet even you won't notice
the smell all that much :-D
Happy epoxying!
Peter Lenihan
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Tim, I keep my cheap chip brushes in a plastic tub of acetone. I clean them good shake them out and immerse them. Even so they don't last long. Sears used to have Foam brushes 4 or 5 for 2.99. I used alot of them One Use Only ( they fall apart quick).
Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@...> wrote:Cheap chip brushes are the way to go, but if you need to clean epoxy off
tools, brushes, etc. get to it right away and use vinegar, which you can
probably buy cheaply by the gallon at the supermarket. Works better than
alcohol, and I think, tho I'm not sure, better than acetone.
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Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@...> wrote:Cheap chip brushes are the way to go, but if you need to clean epoxy off
tools, brushes, etc. get to it right away and use vinegar, which you can
probably buy cheaply by the gallon at the supermarket. Works better than
alcohol, and I think, tho I'm not sure, better than acetone.
>Tim Rohrer wrote:Bolger rules!!!
>Good Morning,
>
>I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
>out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
>them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
>have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
>thought about trying the foam brushes?
>
>I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
>
>Cheers,
>Tim
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Tim Rohrer <tgrohrer@y...> wrote:
I've had great success with plain white vinager. I simply fill up
a large plastic yogurt conatainer about half way and when I am
through with my brush(es),I dump them in the bucket.Next day or next
week when I need to use them,I simply give them a good rinsing under
water,dry them off and they are ready to go again.If you envision
doing alot of epoxy work with a brush,it would be good to get a
system going whereby you always have cleaned brushes already dried
for the work while another group is drying and yet another soaking in
the vinager. I noticed too that the really really el cheapo brushes
just fall apart after a single use. So I've come to use only cheap
brushes at about a buck a piece and not the others at 4 for a buck.
Vinager will also clean up all your tools which get epoxy on
them.Just don't wait until the stuff is cured before going at it with
the vinager.
And finally,it works great on your skin too for removing epoxy,so
long as you don't wait for the epoxy to cure :-). Oh sure,you may get
a hankering for some fries and friends will wonder where the hell the
smell of vinager is coming from.........have fun with it
......besides,after a few cold ones,I'll bet even you won't notice
the smell all that much :-D
Happy epoxying!
Peter Lenihan
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> Good Morning,Tim,
>
> I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
> out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
> them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
> have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
> thought about trying the foam brushes?
>
> I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
I've had great success with plain white vinager. I simply fill up
a large plastic yogurt conatainer about half way and when I am
through with my brush(es),I dump them in the bucket.Next day or next
week when I need to use them,I simply give them a good rinsing under
water,dry them off and they are ready to go again.If you envision
doing alot of epoxy work with a brush,it would be good to get a
system going whereby you always have cleaned brushes already dried
for the work while another group is drying and yet another soaking in
the vinager. I noticed too that the really really el cheapo brushes
just fall apart after a single use. So I've come to use only cheap
brushes at about a buck a piece and not the others at 4 for a buck.
Vinager will also clean up all your tools which get epoxy on
them.Just don't wait until the stuff is cured before going at it with
the vinager.
And finally,it works great on your skin too for removing epoxy,so
long as you don't wait for the epoxy to cure :-). Oh sure,you may get
a hankering for some fries and friends will wonder where the hell the
smell of vinager is coming from.........have fun with it
......besides,after a few cold ones,I'll bet even you won't notice
the smell all that much :-D
Happy epoxying!
Peter Lenihan
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Hi Tim,
I've tried foam brushes and they just fall apart after a few strokes.
As far as brushes go, I usually buy the cheap throw away ones at Home
Depot. These days I just use a plastic spreader to move the epoxy
around. It's much easier, and I seem to use less epoxy than with
brushes. But it is a little tricky on vertical surfaces.
Tom
I've tried foam brushes and they just fall apart after a few strokes.
As far as brushes go, I usually buy the cheap throw away ones at Home
Depot. These days I just use a plastic spreader to move the epoxy
around. It's much easier, and I seem to use less epoxy than with
brushes. But it is a little tricky on vertical surfaces.
Tom
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Tim Rohrer <tgrohrer@y...> wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
> out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
> them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
> have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
> thought about trying the foam brushes?
>
> I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
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Hi
I suggest not cleaning them at all, and putting them in the freezer
until the next use. They seem to keep a long time this way. Just
warm them up to room temp for the next use.
Daniel Pike.
I suggest not cleaning them at all, and putting them in the freezer
until the next use. They seem to keep a long time this way. Just
warm them up to room temp for the next use.
Daniel Pike.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Tim Rohrer <tgrohrer@y...> wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
> out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
> them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
> have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
> thought about trying the foam brushes?
>
> I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> __________________________________
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Good Morning,
I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
thought about trying the foam brushes?
I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
Cheers,
Tim
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I sure have been frustrated at trying to clean resin
out of brushes. And, I have found, if I don't get to
them right away, forget it. I wonder how many of you
have gone to disposable brushes for epoxy work? I've
thought about trying the foam brushes?
I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations.
Cheers,
Tim
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