[bolger] Re: PB's Comments on the Instant Sailing Sharpies?
>I am still planning to go with Windsprint.My sister is having a sunrise wedding on the beach this Summer. I
had the idea that if conditions permit (Southern Cali could be flat
as a lake or overhead), she and her new husband should depart the
beach by row boat. The Windsprint in on the short list of designs
because it's the right size and can be thrown together so easily.
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David,
I think you and others have confirmed what I already thought. People
who have build the instant sharpies seem to very happy with them, and
I am still planning to go with Windsprint.
It is a bit unusual (and maybe refreshing) when a designer makes
negative comments about his own designs. However, I have noticed
that Bolger does that at a couple of points in BWAOM.
I guess he would never make it in the advertizing business.
Rob
I think you and others have confirmed what I already thought. People
who have build the instant sharpies seem to very happy with them, and
I am still planning to go with Windsprint.
It is a bit unusual (and maybe refreshing) when a designer makes
negative comments about his own designs. However, I have noticed
that Bolger does that at a couple of points in BWAOM.
I guess he would never make it in the advertizing business.
Rob
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> Much of what you're read about sharpies in BWOAM is devoted to
> explaining/justifying PCB's transom-bowed sharpies (traditional
> sharpies were sailed with the bow just in the water. Phil argues
hull
> shape dictates the bow should be clear.) The rest can be looked
upon
> as someone over-stating the weakness of their argument so as not to
> appear to be overstating his case.
>
> I have a Teal (the first boat I ever built) have have been quite
> satisfied with it. It row and sails well, delivering performance
> quite out of proportion to the effort and expense of building it.
If
> you're planning to sail small lakes, I can't imagine ANY boat will
> give you more "bang for the buck" than the simple to build ,and
> capable Windsprint.
>
>
>
> >I have been planning to start work on a Windsprint once the New
> >England weather improves. Meanwhile I have been looking at some of
> >the other similar Bolger designs, and I was surprized to read some
> >rather negative comments about the these designs as sailboats
> >in "Boats With An Open Mind." (I think this was in the write-up on
> >Canard?)
> >
> >As I understood it, PB was saying that a double ender will need to
> >carry less sail than a similar length boat with a transom because
it
> >essentially has less initial stabilty. That seems to make sense
and
> >doesn't really concern me, but then he went on to point out some
> >other problems with hull shape on these boats.
> >
> >It seems that most people who have built Windsprint or Teal are
happy
> >with the sailing performance. But, after reading PB's thoughts on
> >this, I am wondering if I should reconsider. I am primarily
> >interested in sailing on small lakes and I want to go with the
> >simple "Instant Boat" construction, but I am wondering if maybe
> >Featherwind or one of the Michilak skiff designs would be a better
> >choice.
> >
> >Any comments?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Much of what you're read about sharpies in BWOAM is devoted to
explaining/justifying PCB's transom-bowed sharpies (traditional
sharpies were sailed with the bow just in the water. Phil argues hull
shape dictates the bow should be clear.) The rest can be looked upon
as someone over-stating the weakness of their argument so as not to
appear to be overstating his case.
I have a Teal (the first boat I ever built) have have been quite
satisfied with it. It row and sails well, delivering performance
quite out of proportion to the effort and expense of building it. If
you're planning to sail small lakes, I can't imagine ANY boat will
give you more "bang for the buck" than the simple to build ,and
capable Windsprint.
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296
explaining/justifying PCB's transom-bowed sharpies (traditional
sharpies were sailed with the bow just in the water. Phil argues hull
shape dictates the bow should be clear.) The rest can be looked upon
as someone over-stating the weakness of their argument so as not to
appear to be overstating his case.
I have a Teal (the first boat I ever built) have have been quite
satisfied with it. It row and sails well, delivering performance
quite out of proportion to the effort and expense of building it. If
you're planning to sail small lakes, I can't imagine ANY boat will
give you more "bang for the buck" than the simple to build ,and
capable Windsprint.
>I have been planning to start work on a Windsprint once the New--
>England weather improves. Meanwhile I have been looking at some of
>the other similar Bolger designs, and I was surprized to read some
>rather negative comments about the these designs as sailboats
>in "Boats With An Open Mind." (I think this was in the write-up on
>Canard?)
>
>As I understood it, PB was saying that a double ender will need to
>carry less sail than a similar length boat with a transom because it
>essentially has less initial stabilty. That seems to make sense and
>doesn't really concern me, but then he went on to point out some
>other problems with hull shape on these boats.
>
>It seems that most people who have built Windsprint or Teal are happy
>with the sailing performance. But, after reading PB's thoughts on
>this, I am wondering if I should reconsider. I am primarily
>interested in sailing on small lakes and I want to go with the
>simple "Instant Boat" construction, but I am wondering if maybe
>Featherwind or one of the Michilak skiff designs would be a better
>choice.
>
>Any comments?
>
>Thanks
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Bolger rules!!!
>- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
>- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
>- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
>- Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
>Fax: (978) 282-1349
>- Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>- Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296
I have been planning to start work on a Windsprint once the New
England weather improves. Meanwhile I have been looking at some of
the other similar Bolger designs, and I was surprized to read some
rather negative comments about the these designs as sailboats
in "Boats With An Open Mind." (I think this was in the write-up on
Canard?)
As I understood it, PB was saying that a double ender will need to
carry less sail than a similar length boat with a transom because it
essentially has less initial stabilty. That seems to make sense and
doesn't really concern me, but then he went on to point out some
other problems with hull shape on these boats.
It seems that most people who have built Windsprint or Teal are happy
with the sailing performance. But, after reading PB's thoughts on
this, I am wondering if I should reconsider. I am primarily
interested in sailing on small lakes and I want to go with the
simple "Instant Boat" construction, but I am wondering if maybe
Featherwind or one of the Michilak skiff designs would be a better
choice.
Any comments?
Thanks
Rob
England weather improves. Meanwhile I have been looking at some of
the other similar Bolger designs, and I was surprized to read some
rather negative comments about the these designs as sailboats
in "Boats With An Open Mind." (I think this was in the write-up on
Canard?)
As I understood it, PB was saying that a double ender will need to
carry less sail than a similar length boat with a transom because it
essentially has less initial stabilty. That seems to make sense and
doesn't really concern me, but then he went on to point out some
other problems with hull shape on these boats.
It seems that most people who have built Windsprint or Teal are happy
with the sailing performance. But, after reading PB's thoughts on
this, I am wondering if I should reconsider. I am primarily
interested in sailing on small lakes and I want to go with the
simple "Instant Boat" construction, but I am wondering if maybe
Featherwind or one of the Michilak skiff designs would be a better
choice.
Any comments?
Thanks
Rob