Re: [bolger] Re: Canvas deck.
Buehler's main thesis is that there is no money tree in his backyard.
He says he tried bedding canvas in epoxy once and would never do it again.
I enjoyed his reference to "Miami Teak" which is supposedly used for boat
decks in the low rent districts of South Florida -- three or four layers of
tarpaper smeared with asphalt based roofing tar and covered with aluminum or
white "Cool-Dry" trailer roof paint.
He does like Arabol, as mentioned.
Roger
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He says he tried bedding canvas in epoxy once and would never do it again.
I enjoyed his reference to "Miami Teak" which is supposedly used for boat
decks in the low rent districts of South Florida -- three or four layers of
tarpaper smeared with asphalt based roofing tar and covered with aluminum or
white "Cool-Dry" trailer roof paint.
He does like Arabol, as mentioned.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "grant corson" <corson@...>
> What about using Dynel? A woven fabric, not glass, no itch
> or irritation, bed in epoxy and has the look of canvas.
> Grant
> on 4/1/04 6:30 AM, Justin Meddock atjmeddock@...wrote:
>
> > In Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding, he suggests as an alternative
> > to canvas covered or epoxy/glass decks using glass cloth set in a
> > water based lagging compound for steam pipes called Arabol.
> > I have no idea what the finished product looks like,
> > but I assume you get a canvas-like look and texture.
> > Anyway, worth a look, and BBB is worth reading too...
---TOMCBRADY@...wrote:
dress shirt and left over
latex paint to fasten in
some foam blocks encased
in luaun plywood bulkheads.
[flotation for my Roar]
This was three years ago and
it is still holding together.
> The reason I was wonderingI used a ripped up cotton
> about a painted
> canvas deck was as an
> alternate, less toxic, less
> expensive but acceptable
> substitute for epoxy and
> fiberglass.
dress shirt and left over
latex paint to fasten in
some foam blocks encased
in luaun plywood bulkheads.
[flotation for my Roar]
This was three years ago and
it is still holding together.
What about using Dynel? A woven fabric, not glass, no itch or irratation,
bed in epoxy and has the look of canvas.
Grant
on 4/1/04 6:30 AM, Justin Meddock atjmeddock@...wrote:
bed in epoxy and has the look of canvas.
Grant
on 4/1/04 6:30 AM, Justin Meddock atjmeddock@...wrote:
> In Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding, he suggests as an alternative
> to canvas covered or epoxy/glass decks using glass cloth set in a
> water based lagging compound for steam pipes called Arabol.
> I have no idea what the finished product looks like,
> but I assume you get a canvas-like look and texture.
> Anyway, worth a look, and BBB is worth reading too...
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:47 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Canvas deck.
>
>
>> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, TOMCBRADY@C... wrote:
>>> Hello John and Bob,
>>> I will look on WoodenBoat that suggestion makes a lot of
>> sense.
>>> The reason I was wondering about a painted canvas deck was
>> as an
>>> alternate, less toxic, less expensive but acceptable substitute for
>> epoxy and
>>> fiberglass.
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> I have a wood and canvas canoe and one of the reasons that canvas
>> worked was that lead fillers and paint where the traditional
>> preservativies for the cotton fabric. Regular paints won't work as
>> well. However a canoe is also not exposed to the sun as much as a
>> boat deck.
>>
>> Not sure how long a canvas deck would last in the Florida sun and
>> climate. Then it takes special skills to install, much more than
>> glass cloth, and it is likely more expensive.
>>
>> I would think painted MDO on the decks should work. How long do the
>> highway signs last in Florida?
>>
>> Cheers, Nels
>>
>>
>>
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In Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding, he suggests as an alternative
to canvas covered or epoxy/glass decks using glass cloth set in a
water based lagging compound for steam pipes called Arabol.
I have no idea what the finished product looks like,
but I assume you get a canvas-like look and texture.
Anyway, worth a look, and BBB is worth reading too...
Justin
to canvas covered or epoxy/glass decks using glass cloth set in a
water based lagging compound for steam pipes called Arabol.
I have no idea what the finished product looks like,
but I assume you get a canvas-like look and texture.
Anyway, worth a look, and BBB is worth reading too...
Justin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:47 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Canvas deck.
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, TOMCBRADY@C... wrote:
> > Hello John and Bob,
> > I will look on WoodenBoat that suggestion makes a lot of
> sense.
> > The reason I was wondering about a painted canvas deck was
> as an
> > alternate, less toxic, less expensive but acceptable substitute for
> epoxy and
> > fiberglass.
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have a wood and canvas canoe and one of the reasons that canvas
> worked was that lead fillers and paint where the traditional
> preservativies for the cotton fabric. Regular paints won't work as
> well. However a canoe is also not exposed to the sun as much as a
> boat deck.
>
> Not sure how long a canvas deck would last in the Florida sun and
> climate. Then it takes special skills to install, much more than
> glass cloth, and it is likely more expensive.
>
> I would think painted MDO on the decks should work. How long do the
> highway signs last in Florida?
>
> Cheers, Nels
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
(978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, TOMCBRADY@C... wrote:
I have a wood and canvas canoe and one of the reasons that canvas
worked was that lead fillers and paint where the traditional
preservativies for the cotton fabric. Regular paints won't work as
well. However a canoe is also not exposed to the sun as much as a
boat deck.
Not sure how long a canvas deck would last in the Florida sun and
climate. Then it takes special skills to install, much more than
glass cloth, and it is likely more expensive.
I would think painted MDO on the decks should work. How long do the
highway signs last in Florida?
Cheers, Nels
> Hello John and Bob,sense.
> I will look on WoodenBoat that suggestion makes a lot of
> The reason I was wondering about a painted canvas deck wasas an
> alternate, less toxic, less expensive but acceptable substitute forepoxy and
> fiberglass.Hi Tom,
I have a wood and canvas canoe and one of the reasons that canvas
worked was that lead fillers and paint where the traditional
preservativies for the cotton fabric. Regular paints won't work as
well. However a canoe is also not exposed to the sun as much as a
boat deck.
Not sure how long a canvas deck would last in the Florida sun and
climate. Then it takes special skills to install, much more than
glass cloth, and it is likely more expensive.
I would think painted MDO on the decks should work. How long do the
highway signs last in Florida?
Cheers, Nels
I don't know what the market is today, but when I was getting ready to buy a
big lot of plywood a few years ago, the suppliers were unanimous that the
marine fir was junk compared to occume, and it was only a small percentage
cheaper.
Two years ago I paid about $45 for 1/2" MDO and about $48 for 3/8" BS 1088
Occume, delivered. I don't have the quotes handy, but it seemed like the
marine fir was over $40.
Roger
big lot of plywood a few years ago, the suppliers were unanimous that the
marine fir was junk compared to occume, and it was only a small percentage
cheaper.
Two years ago I paid about $45 for 1/2" MDO and about $48 for 3/8" BS 1088
Occume, delivered. I don't have the quotes handy, but it seemed like the
marine fir was over $40.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: <TOMCBRADY@...>
> Hello John and Bob,
> It is discouraging to read
> that even if you spend the money and buy marine fir plywood and even coat
it
> with expensive epoxy that it is still going to check unless you go to the
added
> expense and work of fiberglassing. Either that or buy really expensive
marine
> plywood.
Hello John and Bob,
I will look on WoodenBoat that suggestion makes a lot of sense.
The reason I was wondering about a painted canvas deck was as an
alternate, less toxic, less expensive but acceptable substitute for epoxy and
fiberglass. Nothing high minded or anything like that. It is discouraging to read
that even if you spend the money and buy marine fir plywood and even coat it
with expensive epoxy that it is still going to check unless you go to the added
expense and work of fiberglassing. Either that or buy really expensive marine
plywood.
In the recent MDO discussion it was presented that MDO did not have to
be fiberglassed all over except for abrasion resistance. And since MDO is
coated with something other than fiberglass I just started wondering about other
ways of using plywood.
I have several of Chapelle's books but I do not have boatbuilding.
However, our library does a real good job on interlibrary loans, so I suspect
that I can get it in less than a week. So I will. Thanks for the ino. Tom on
Sandpiper in SW Florida.
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I will look on WoodenBoat that suggestion makes a lot of sense.
The reason I was wondering about a painted canvas deck was as an
alternate, less toxic, less expensive but acceptable substitute for epoxy and
fiberglass. Nothing high minded or anything like that. It is discouraging to read
that even if you spend the money and buy marine fir plywood and even coat it
with expensive epoxy that it is still going to check unless you go to the added
expense and work of fiberglassing. Either that or buy really expensive marine
plywood.
In the recent MDO discussion it was presented that MDO did not have to
be fiberglassed all over except for abrasion resistance. And since MDO is
coated with something other than fiberglass I just started wondering about other
ways of using plywood.
I have several of Chapelle's books but I do not have boatbuilding.
However, our library does a real good job on interlibrary loans, so I suspect
that I can get it in less than a week. So I will. Thanks for the ino. Tom on
Sandpiper in SW Florida.
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