Re: Talc as epoxy filler
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@s...> wrote:
unless you bought the really top grades of
> talcum powder, what you got was a mix of talc and asbestos.
My first Bolger boat,a SURF,was built entirely with epoxy and
asbestos powder.It made for some wonderful fillets and was really
dirt cheap.In fact, I seem to recall paying something like $18.00Can
for a green garbage bag full of the stuff!The only draw back,to my
eyes, was sanding the stuff.........it was about as much fun and
difficult as attempting to sand a concrete sidewalk.
And then it happened.Some wisenhiemer figured out that if you slowly
fill your lungs up with asbestos,you might experience some trouble
breathing and,heaven forbid,die. Soon a whole industry was born and
houses were being gutted to remove the silent killer from our midst
while"inspectors" probed every nook and crevice with delicate
instruments seeking micron sized"evidence" of the killers presence.
I keep praying that some other wise guy similarly doesn't come out
with some study informing the world that the waters of the
St.Lawrence are a toxic soup barely capable of supporting
life,causing cancers in whales and subsequently banning the use of
boats in the river.Yikes!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,ex-member of the eternal life club and anxious for when
the next big adventure begins after being sent off in a Viking
funeral with all guns blazing and an open bar for the foot dragging
guests..............:-D
--- Roger Derby <derbyrm@...> wrote:
The Chinese used lime and tung oil as a filler for
hundreds of years. I tried it on my Chinese Junk with
good success. You are smart to wear the dust mask you
only have one pair of lungs
Lon
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> > I've been experimenting with using lime, from theRoger
> garden supply places, as a
> filler to create a bullet proof coating for such
> places as the chain locker.
The Chinese used lime and tung oil as a filler for
hundreds of years. I tried it on my Chinese Junk with
good success. You are smart to wear the dust mask you
only have one pair of lungs
Lon
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For boats left at a dock or mooring for long periods it might be okay to do and on my Wyo I am putting a coat of copper impregnated epoxy so it'll be recoated.
I would only do it for under the water line only AND if I don't have fiberglass cloth laid on the plywood. I feel the cloth holds enough epoxy to keep it water proofed.
For trailer boats it seems to me a waste of time and epoxy. Of course if you've gotten too aggressive and sanded through the epoxy, by all means recoat.
My opinion only of course.
Jeff
I would only do it for under the water line only AND if I don't have fiberglass cloth laid on the plywood. I feel the cloth holds enough epoxy to keep it water proofed.
For trailer boats it seems to me a waste of time and epoxy. Of course if you've gotten too aggressive and sanded through the epoxy, by all means recoat.
My opinion only of course.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Rund
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:56 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Talc as epoxy filler
After fairing with Talc, what is put on next? Primer? Larry at Raka
told me that talc should be re-coated with epoxy.
Tom
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <boatbuilding@g...> wrote:
> I found that to be true but when purchased through a pharmacy it
cost more than dropping into Wal-Mart, Target, etc. and grabbing the
big bottles of baby powder. I suppose they figure that if your going
to a pharmacist, your not price shopping.
>
> I found that I like the way talc sands over micro-balloons. It
vacuums easier with the dust collector. I think the Micro balloons
are essentially hollow spheres that make the sanding dust
very "wispy" for lack of a better term that can escape away from the
sander before being captured by the vacuum from the dust collector.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kurt P. Herzog
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:19 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Talc as epoxy filler
>
>
>
> "Jeff" <boatbuilding@g...> said:
>
> "I've use a lot of wood flour in the past but have switched
> to Talc. It's relatively cheap, mixes easy, sands well, and
> can be found anywhere. Baby powder is pure Talc with
> Fragrance."
>
> You can buy pure, unscented talc in most well-equiped
> pharmacies.
> Ask the pharmacist.
>
> . . . Kurt
>
> Kurt P. Herzog
> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>
> kpherzog@s...
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A few years ago, I noticed my barber was no longer using talcum powder.
When I asked why, he replied that unless you bought the really top grades of
talcum powder, what you got was a mix of talc and asbestos. Apparently the
deposits tend to interleave and the fellow with the backhoe doesn't worry
too much.
So, if you believe the trial lawyers and worry about your health, you might
want to wear a real good mask when working with the stuff.
I've been experimenting with using lime, from the garden supply places, as a
filler to create a bullet proof coating for such places as the chain locker.
It comes out a funny gray color and sanding is ??? -- I didn't try it. It
leveled real smooth on a horizontal surface. (Original idea from MAIB.)
Roger
derbyrm@...
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When I asked why, he replied that unless you bought the really top grades of
talcum powder, what you got was a mix of talc and asbestos. Apparently the
deposits tend to interleave and the fellow with the backhoe doesn't worry
too much.
So, if you believe the trial lawyers and worry about your health, you might
want to wear a real good mask when working with the stuff.
I've been experimenting with using lime, from the garden supply places, as a
filler to create a bullet proof coating for such places as the chain locker.
It comes out a funny gray color and sanding is ??? -- I didn't try it. It
leveled real smooth on a horizontal surface. (Original idea from MAIB.)
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt P. Herzog" <kpherzog@...>
> "Jeff" <boatbuilding@...> said:
>
> "I've use a lot of wood flour in the past but have switched
> to Talc. It's relatively cheap, mixes easy, sands well, and
> can be found anywhere. Baby powder is pure Talc with
> Fragrance."
After fairing with Talc, what is put on next? Primer? Larry at Raka
told me that talc should be re-coated with epoxy.
Tom
told me that talc should be re-coated with epoxy.
Tom
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <boatbuilding@g...> wrote:
> I found that to be true but when purchased through a pharmacy it
cost more than dropping into Wal-Mart, Target, etc. and grabbing the
big bottles of baby powder. I suppose they figure that if your going
to a pharmacist, your not price shopping.
>
> I found that I like the way talc sands over micro-balloons. It
vacuums easier with the dust collector. I think the Micro balloons
are essentially hollow spheres that make the sanding dust
very "wispy" for lack of a better term that can escape away from the
sander before being captured by the vacuum from the dust collector.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kurt P. Herzog
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:19 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Talc as epoxy filler
>
>
>
> "Jeff" <boatbuilding@g...> said:
>
> "I've use a lot of wood flour in the past but have switched
> to Talc. It's relatively cheap, mixes easy, sands well, and
> can be found anywhere. Baby powder is pure Talc with
> Fragrance."
>
> You can buy pure, unscented talc in most well-equiped
> pharmacies.
> Ask the pharmacist.
>
> . . . Kurt
>
> Kurt P. Herzog
> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>
> kpherzog@s...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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I found that to be true but when purchased through a pharmacy it cost more than dropping into Wal-Mart, Target, etc. and grabbing the big bottles of baby powder. I suppose they figure that if your going to a pharmacist, your not price shopping.
I found that I like the way talc sands over micro-balloons. It vacuums easier with the dust collector. I think the Micro balloons are essentially hollow spheres that make the sanding dust very "wispy" for lack of a better term that can escape away from the sander before being captured by the vacuum from the dust collector.
Jeff
I found that I like the way talc sands over micro-balloons. It vacuums easier with the dust collector. I think the Micro balloons are essentially hollow spheres that make the sanding dust very "wispy" for lack of a better term that can escape away from the sander before being captured by the vacuum from the dust collector.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Kurt P. Herzog
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: [bolger] Talc as epoxy filler
"Jeff" <boatbuilding@...> said:
"I've use a lot of wood flour in the past but have switched
to Talc. It's relatively cheap, mixes easy, sands well, and
can be found anywhere. Baby powder is pure Talc with
Fragrance."
You can buy pure, unscented talc in most well-equiped
pharmacies.
Ask the pharmacist.
. . . Kurt
Kurt P. Herzog
Grants Pass, OR 97526
kpherzog@...
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
- Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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"Jeff" <boatbuilding@...> said:
"I've use a lot of wood flour in the past but have switched
to Talc. It's relatively cheap, mixes easy, sands well, and
can be found anywhere. Baby powder is pure Talc with
Fragrance."
You can buy pure, unscented talc in most well-equiped
pharmacies.
Ask the pharmacist.
. . . Kurt
Kurt P. Herzog
Grants Pass, OR 97526
kpherzog@...
"I've use a lot of wood flour in the past but have switched
to Talc. It's relatively cheap, mixes easy, sands well, and
can be found anywhere. Baby powder is pure Talc with
Fragrance."
You can buy pure, unscented talc in most well-equiped
pharmacies.
Ask the pharmacist.
. . . Kurt
Kurt P. Herzog
Grants Pass, OR 97526
kpherzog@...