Re: Stretched Bobcat
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
Photos in the files section... Nels
> Hi, Bob,I think you are right that a stretched Bobcat would
> be a much easier build.Then there is Cynthia J - a catboat with leeboards.
Photos in the files section... Nels
Hi, Bob,
I'm always interested, but as always, my eyes are always bigger than
my budget! Sigh. I think you are right that a stretched Bobcat would
be a much easier build. Is the Chapelle Camp Skiff the same design
that Stambaugh derived the Redwing Series from?
Dennis
I'm always interested, but as always, my eyes are always bigger than
my budget! Sigh. I think you are right that a stretched Bobcat would
be a much easier build. Is the Chapelle Camp Skiff the same design
that Stambaugh derived the Redwing Series from?
Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, cha62759@t... wrote:
> Hi Dennis, I had thought so to but decided to do one more.
Chappelle's
> Camp Skiff. I will keep that and my Bobcat. Herreshoff pram,
Hawkeye,
> inflatable all go.
> If you are interested in Spartina I have the plans. Would you like
to
> look them over? I like Spartina but I suspect a stretched Bobcat
would
> be much easier.
> Bob Chamberland
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
> > Hi, Bob, I thought you were done building boats!
> >
> > With respect to a stretched Bobcat -- it does have its
attractions,
> > of course, there is Spartina!
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, cha62759@t... wrote:
> > > Hi Dennis, Apparently the answer to your question is no. All the
> > > catboats suggested are of course "like" Bobcat in the same way
a
> > Ford
> > > is like a chevy.
> > >
> > > Bobcat IS somewhat cramped for two big people and extending the
hull
> > > 3' would certainly ease that and probably make room for a small
> > > family. As it is there is a lot of plywood left over after
building
> > > Bobcat as designed. A Bobcat 2 sheets of plywood long would not
cost
> > > much more and of course it would be faster. I would like to see
it
> > > done. I think Bobcat is one of the nicest of the small catboats
> > > available. I am going to try "Plyboats" to get the side panels
for
> > my
> > > "Camp Cruiser" and I think I'll try "Bobcat" also just for
kicks.
> > >
> > > Bob Chamberland-
> > >
> > > -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
> > > > Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
> > > > seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by
> > stretching
> > > > it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks,
Dennis
Hi Dennis, I had thought so to but decided to do one more. Chappelle's
Camp Skiff. I will keep that and my Bobcat. Herreshoff pram, Hawkeye,
inflatable all go.
If you are interested in Spartina I have the plans. Would you like to
look them over? I like Spartina but I suspect a stretched Bobcat would
be much easier.
Bob Chamberland
Camp Skiff. I will keep that and my Bobcat. Herreshoff pram, Hawkeye,
inflatable all go.
If you are interested in Spartina I have the plans. Would you like to
look them over? I like Spartina but I suspect a stretched Bobcat would
be much easier.
Bob Chamberland
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
> Hi, Bob, I thought you were done building boats!
>
> With respect to a stretched Bobcat -- it does have its attractions,
> of course, there is Spartina!
>
> Dennis
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, cha62759@t... wrote:
> > Hi Dennis, Apparently the answer to your question is no. All the
> > catboats suggested are of course "like" Bobcat in the same way a
> Ford
> > is like a chevy.
> >
> > Bobcat IS somewhat cramped for two big people and extending the hull
> > 3' would certainly ease that and probably make room for a small
> > family. As it is there is a lot of plywood left over after building
> > Bobcat as designed. A Bobcat 2 sheets of plywood long would not cost
> > much more and of course it would be faster. I would like to see it
> > done. I think Bobcat is one of the nicest of the small catboats
> > available. I am going to try "Plyboats" to get the side panels for
> my
> > "Camp Cruiser" and I think I'll try "Bobcat" also just for kicks.
> >
> > Bob Chamberland-
> >
> > -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
> > > Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
> > > seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by
> stretching
> > > it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
Hi, Bob, I thought you were done building boats!
With respect to a stretched Bobcat -- it does have its attractions,
of course, there is Spartina!
Dennis
With respect to a stretched Bobcat -- it does have its attractions,
of course, there is Spartina!
Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, cha62759@t... wrote:
> Hi Dennis, Apparently the answer to your question is no. All the
> catboats suggested are of course "like" Bobcat in the same way a
Ford
> is like a chevy.
>
> Bobcat IS somewhat cramped for two big people and extending the hull
> 3' would certainly ease that and probably make room for a small
> family. As it is there is a lot of plywood left over after building
> Bobcat as designed. A Bobcat 2 sheets of plywood long would not cost
> much more and of course it would be faster. I would like to see it
> done. I think Bobcat is one of the nicest of the small catboats
> available. I am going to try "Plyboats" to get the side panels for
my
> "Camp Cruiser" and I think I'll try "Bobcat" also just for kicks.
>
> Bob Chamberland-
>
> -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
> > Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
> > seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by
stretching
> > it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
Hi Dennis, Apparently the answer to your question is no. All the
catboats suggested are of course "like" Bobcat in the same way a Ford
is like a chevy.
Bobcat IS somewhat cramped for two big people and extending the hull
3' would certainly ease that and probably make room for a small
family. As it is there is a lot of plywood left over after building
Bobcat as designed. A Bobcat 2 sheets of plywood long would not cost
much more and of course it would be faster. I would like to see it
done. I think Bobcat is one of the nicest of the small catboats
available. I am going to try "Plyboats" to get the side panels for my
"Camp Cruiser" and I think I'll try "Bobcat" also just for kicks.
Bob Chamberland-
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
catboats suggested are of course "like" Bobcat in the same way a Ford
is like a chevy.
Bobcat IS somewhat cramped for two big people and extending the hull
3' would certainly ease that and probably make room for a small
family. As it is there is a lot of plywood left over after building
Bobcat as designed. A Bobcat 2 sheets of plywood long would not cost
much more and of course it would be faster. I would like to see it
done. I think Bobcat is one of the nicest of the small catboats
available. I am going to try "Plyboats" to get the side panels for my
"Camp Cruiser" and I think I'll try "Bobcat" also just for kicks.
Bob Chamberland-
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
> Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
> seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by stretching
> it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
If the Catfish size is what interests you, but you want a traditional
centerboard, but sure to check with PCB&F. They did a version with a
normal cockpit in place of the odd camp-cruising deck. It would be
worth checking if it had a centerboard. I don't happen to remember.
He has other catboat options too, if you are looking for a cat rig
and better sailing performance. There are is the Dart dinghy. I think
there was a v-bottom boat that he did for Small Boat Journal that
have very sparce plans (experts only!), but which would have been a
fast boat. Cartopper is a muti-chine shape and probably better
performance than the BobCat. For that matter, so is Gypsy and she had
very good performance.
Peter
centerboard, but sure to check with PCB&F. They did a version with a
normal cockpit in place of the odd camp-cruising deck. It would be
worth checking if it had a centerboard. I don't happen to remember.
He has other catboat options too, if you are looking for a cat rig
and better sailing performance. There are is the Dart dinghy. I think
there was a v-bottom boat that he did for Small Boat Journal that
have very sparce plans (experts only!), but which would have been a
fast boat. Cartopper is a muti-chine shape and probably better
performance than the BobCat. For that matter, so is Gypsy and she had
very good performance.
Peter
Whoops, maybe not. Catfish *is* just a shoal keel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Stretched Bobcat
| Yeah it has a bit of a keel, but also a centerboard like Chebacco. Bobcat
| also has a substantial skeg itself.
|
| Looking at the lines, the three boat are definitely of a type.
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Dennis" <pseudodion@...>
| To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
| Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:28 PM
| Subject: [bolger] Re: Stretched Bobcat
|
|
| | Hi, John,
| |
| | I thought the Catfish Beach Cruiser also had an external shoal draft
| | keel rather than a center board. While it might look a wee bit like
| | the Bobcat, I think it is a much different animal altogether.
| |
| | Dennis
| |
| | --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@m...>
| | wrote:
| | > Catfish Beach Cruiser is essentially a stretched Bobcat, albeit
| | with a
| | > curious deck arrangement. And for that matter, Chebacco could be
| | considered
| | > seven and a half foot stretch of the same hull. And we've all heard
| | how nice
| | > those boats are...
| | >
| | >
| | > ----- Original Message -----
| | > From: "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...>
| | > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
| | > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:27 PM
| | > Subject: [bolger] Stretched Bobcat
| | >
| | >
| | > | Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
| | > | seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by
| | stretching
| | > | it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
| |
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Yeah it has a bit of a keel, but also a centerboard like Chebacco. Bobcat
also has a substantial skeg itself.
Looking at the lines, the three boat are definitely of a type.
also has a substantial skeg itself.
Looking at the lines, the three boat are definitely of a type.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis" <pseudodion@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:28 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Stretched Bobcat
| Hi, John,
|
| I thought the Catfish Beach Cruiser also had an external shoal draft
| keel rather than a center board. While it might look a wee bit like
| the Bobcat, I think it is a much different animal altogether.
|
| Dennis
|
| --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@m...>
| wrote:
| > Catfish Beach Cruiser is essentially a stretched Bobcat, albeit
| with a
| > curious deck arrangement. And for that matter, Chebacco could be
| considered
| > seven and a half foot stretch of the same hull. And we've all heard
| how nice
| > those boats are...
| >
| >
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...>
| > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
| > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:27 PM
| > Subject: [bolger] Stretched Bobcat
| >
| >
| > | Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
| > | seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by
| stretching
| > | it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
|
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Hi, John,
I thought the Catfish Beach Cruiser also had an external shoal draft
keel rather than a center board. While it might look a wee bit like
the Bobcat, I think it is a much different animal altogether.
Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@m...>
wrote:
I thought the Catfish Beach Cruiser also had an external shoal draft
keel rather than a center board. While it might look a wee bit like
the Bobcat, I think it is a much different animal altogether.
Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@m...>
wrote:
> Catfish Beach Cruiser is essentially a stretched Bobcat, albeitwith a
> curious deck arrangement. And for that matter, Chebacco could beconsidered
> seven and a half foot stretch of the same hull. And we've all heardhow nice
> those boats are...stretching
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:27 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Stretched Bobcat
>
>
> | Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
> | seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by
> | it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis" <pseudodion@s...> wrote:
meeting that description, called CATFISH BEACHCRUISER.
http://www.instantboats.com/catfish.htm
Cheers, Nels
> Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about BobcatNot certain as to what comment you refer to, but he did design a boat
> seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by stretching
> it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
meeting that description, called CATFISH BEACHCRUISER.
http://www.instantboats.com/catfish.htm
Cheers, Nels
Catfish Beach Cruiser is essentially a stretched Bobcat, albeit with a
curious deck arrangement. And for that matter, Chebacco could be considered
seven and a half foot stretch of the same hull. And we've all heard how nice
those boats are...
curious deck arrangement. And for that matter, Chebacco could be considered
seven and a half foot stretch of the same hull. And we've all heard how nice
those boats are...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis" <pseudodion@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:27 PM
Subject: [bolger] Stretched Bobcat
| Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
| seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by stretching
| it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
Do you know of anyone who took Bolger's comment about Bobcat
seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by stretching
it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis
seriously, i.e., having a much better and faster boat by stretching
it 3 feet on the same beam? I'd be curious to know. Thanks, Dennis