Re: Mast Rotiserie
All roasting, hunour and beer swilling jokes aside, you should see the
rig Chuck made up to sand his mast in today's Duckworks update.
If you can't revolve the mast, you can always rotate the ....
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/s/projects/chuckpd/index.cfm
Bruce Hector
rig Chuck made up to sand his mast in today's Duckworks update.
If you can't revolve the mast, you can always rotate the ....
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/s/projects/chuckpd/index.cfm
Bruce Hector
You could try a old AT power supply from a computer and a windscreen wiper
motor , I use them for a variety of things
David Wallace
motor , I use them for a variety of things
David Wallace
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. R. Sloan" <jr_sloan@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Mast Rotiserie
> > >What I'm not seeing very well is how to drive the whole
> contraption. Presumably a belt around the wheel; but a belt driven by
> what? Suggestions welcome.
> ... BBQ Rotiserie motor?
> ... Bow Lathe?
>
> How about a fixed, floor-height pedal, hooked to a line wrapping the
> spar twice, through a pulley in the ceiling across the room to
> another pulley, tied off to a cinder block? This is a cheap, foot-
> propelled version of the old treadle lathe. With the rest of your
> setup already described, you could be making spars like Mike Fink and
> the other riverboatmen did.
>
> JR Sloan
>
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> >What I'm not seeing very well is how to drive the wholecontraption. Presumably a belt around the wheel; but a belt driven by
what? Suggestions welcome.
... BBQ Rotiserie motor?
... Bow Lathe?
How about a fixed, floor-height pedal, hooked to a line wrapping the
spar twice, through a pulley in the ceiling across the room to
another pulley, tied off to a cinder block? This is a cheap, foot-
propelled version of the old treadle lathe. With the rest of your
setup already described, you could be making spars like Mike Fink and
the other riverboatmen did.
JR Sloan
How about a 1/2" heavy-duty drill? They usually have a fitting for
screwing in a threaded pipe for mounting it...I'm planning on trying
that, along with some of the ideas in the most recent woodenboat mag
(article on spar lathe)
screwing in a threaded pipe for mounting it...I'm planning on trying
that, along with some of the ideas in the most recent woodenboat mag
(article on spar lathe)
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, grant corson <corson@a...> wrote:
> go to google and enter "bow lathe" and you will find the answer
> Grant
>
> on 4/8/04 6:29 PM, Nels at arvent@h... wrote:
>
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> >> FBBB,
> >>
> >> What I'm not seeing
> >> very well is how to drive the whole contraption. Presumably a
belt
> >> around the wheel; but a belt driven by what?
> >>
> >> Suggestions welcome.
> >>
> > BBQ Rotiserie motor?
> >
> > Nels
> >
> >
> >
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Well, Peter, perhaps if you hadn't indulged in so much of your all
purpose remedy you'd notice that I said it was only a vision, also that
according to me, I, perhaps, shouldn't associate this plan with you. It
was mostly the beer half of the vision that I associate with you two,
tho I also have a recollection of some mention of Sea Scouts. Since I've
been reading a Patrick O'brien book, it's not far to a vision of drunken
sailors, even underage ones. I will also admit to, at a very early age,
hearing sea chanties about dealing with such people, etc. Trying not to
remember the tacky lyrics, but the scene in the book where they are
hosing down seven inebriated guys brings it all back...
Anyway, I'm not at all sure that you would want whatever "best beer" I
came up with. For medical reasons I am not able to indulge in very much
research, tho I suppose if I put more miles on my bicycle I'd feel
comfortable with one research sample every couple of days. We do have a
local brewery, not 10 blocks from here, but when I sampled I was not
impressed. Also keep in mind that, when I did drink beer, I actually
liked Rolling Rock sometimes, and actually once consumed an entire case
of Red, White, and Blue Beer. Many of the beers that are supposed to be
stronger than water taste like a brown version of what you'd wash dishes
in. So you might be sorry if I did bring a case! I only draw the line at
Miller and other sweet stuff.
Lincoln Ross
who still remembers the pinnacle of his beer consumption, 20 years ago,
an amazing glass of freshly brewed ginger beer (or was it ale?) that was
REAL beer or ale
purpose remedy you'd notice that I said it was only a vision, also that
according to me, I, perhaps, shouldn't associate this plan with you. It
was mostly the beer half of the vision that I associate with you two,
tho I also have a recollection of some mention of Sea Scouts. Since I've
been reading a Patrick O'brien book, it's not far to a vision of drunken
sailors, even underage ones. I will also admit to, at a very early age,
hearing sea chanties about dealing with such people, etc. Trying not to
remember the tacky lyrics, but the scene in the book where they are
hosing down seven inebriated guys brings it all back...
Anyway, I'm not at all sure that you would want whatever "best beer" I
came up with. For medical reasons I am not able to indulge in very much
research, tho I suppose if I put more miles on my bicycle I'd feel
comfortable with one research sample every couple of days. We do have a
local brewery, not 10 blocks from here, but when I sampled I was not
impressed. Also keep in mind that, when I did drink beer, I actually
liked Rolling Rock sometimes, and actually once consumed an entire case
of Red, White, and Blue Beer. Many of the beers that are supposed to be
stronger than water taste like a brown version of what you'd wash dishes
in. So you might be sorry if I did bring a case! I only draw the line at
Miller and other sweet stuff.
Lincoln Ross
who still remembers the pinnacle of his beer consumption, 20 years ago,
an amazing glass of freshly brewed ginger beer (or was it ale?) that was
REAL beer or ale
>Peter Lenihan wrote:
>
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
>
>
>>> I have this horrible vision of Peter or Bruce offering one beer per
>>
>>
>half
>
>
>>> hour to a Sea Scout to do the job, assuming the varnish will get
>>
>>
>dry
>
>
>>> enough to stop rotating in an hour or so. But perhaps I shouldn't
>>> associate this nefarious plan with them...
>>>
>>> Lincoln
>>> who doesn't really give kids beer
>>
>>
>
>Oh the nerve and gaul of some folks! To even possess the ability to
>conger up the faintest image of such an evil deed leaves me almost
>speachless..........but only almost:-)
>For the record,I firmly believe that neither Bruce"Bad Boy" Hector
>nor I,Peter"Where's the GD beer"Lenihan would ever even contemplate
>encouraging youths to engage in the manly task of transforming beer
>into water,despite the fact that in some parts,the beer may indeed be
>just about that,water.Indeed,it requires many man years of diligent
>un-supervised practice to achieve such efficiencies of transformation
>and is not the sort of thing that should be undertaken lightly.
>In order to preserve the good names of us two pirates, it would be
>normal to seek an apology,tout suite, but in your case Lincoln, it
>may require something more fitting,a case of the best beer sold in
>your area to be presented to"us" at the 2004 Kingston Blowout. I'm
>sure Big Bad Bruce would approve
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Peter Lenihan,only slightly hurting from aspersions..............
>
Hello David,
I was the one who told everyone about the system I have used. It
works great with epoxy as a finish then UV protected varnish. One
should buy a used rotisserie that is large. Some of the ones made
for small Bar-B-Q's will not hold up under the strain. After a few
used stuff stores you will find one that id suitable. On spars under
12' I don't use a center bearing. You can make a simple one from
some UHMW held up by a U hook from the ceiling. After you make the
first coat you can use the bearing in another spot.
This system depends on your building ability and resourcefulness.
David, I think you can make a fine unit with what I have given you.
Announcer
AKA John Cupp
I was the one who told everyone about the system I have used. It
works great with epoxy as a finish then UV protected varnish. One
should buy a used rotisserie that is large. Some of the ones made
for small Bar-B-Q's will not hold up under the strain. After a few
used stuff stores you will find one that id suitable. On spars under
12' I don't use a center bearing. You can make a simple one from
some UHMW held up by a U hook from the ceiling. After you make the
first coat you can use the bearing in another spot.
This system depends on your building ability and resourcefulness.
David, I think you can make a fine unit with what I have given you.
Announcer
AKA John Cupp
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> FBBB,
>
> It's finally getting warm enough I can think about refinishing the
> spars on the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen. A while back someone on
> the list suggested that putting the spars on a rotiserie might be
a
> easy-ish way to achieve a pleasing finish.
>
> I'm imagine one end as a sort of plywood wheel with butchered
> c-clamps to hold one end of the spar, and the other end as a sort
of
> plywood C, lined with old rollerblade wheels. What I'm not seeing
> very well is how to drive the whole contraption. Presumably a belt
> around the wheel; but a belt driven by what?
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@h...>
wrote:
...
army cadets at age 15 - where they used to say - "If you are old
enough to die for your country, you are old enough to drink."
Then later on when I was stationed in Europe at age 18, I asked a
local bartender in Belgium what the drinking age was, as I observed
and local kid having a small nip on his way to school.
The bartender replied that in Belgium they went by height and not
age. When I asked for more details he told me that if a customer was
tall enough to put their money on the bar, that was the "legal
drinking height".
Chhers, Nels
wrote:
...
> >All this talk about drinking reminds me of my younger years in the
> > Lincoln
> > who doesn't really give kids beer
>
army cadets at age 15 - where they used to say - "If you are old
enough to die for your country, you are old enough to drink."
Then later on when I was stationed in Europe at age 18, I asked a
local bartender in Belgium what the drinking age was, as I observed
and local kid having a small nip on his way to school.
The bartender replied that in Belgium they went by height and not
age. When I asked for more details he told me that if a customer was
tall enough to put their money on the bar, that was the "legal
drinking height".
Chhers, Nels
Such a blot on our good name cannot go unchallenged, and I thank
Peter for rising to my aid.
But, experienced institutional cook that I am, I'll take care of the
:Lincoln Roast" myself.
Take one un sanded mast, suspend it between two X's of 2 by 4 set at
each end of the mast. Screw slices from a cheap $1 store UHMV cutting
board into the crook of these X supports. This will let the mast
rotate relatively easily.
Jack up your both sides of your car and remove a tire. Now instal an
empty rim. Warp some line around the rim and twice around the mast.
Adjust the placement of the X crooks to tighten the line, and nail the
2 by 4 to a stake driven into the ground beside it. Start motor and
let it idle in reverse. This, thehaswest gear, and lots of torque for
the job at hand..
Cut long strips of sandpaper and give them to the pack of Sea Scouts
you've bribed to assist you by donating them a boat, and instruct them
to wrap the strip once around the mast at a slight angle and hold them
agaist the mast as you walk slowly along it's length.
Skewer one so called "Lincoln Ross Roast" in the centre of the mast,
over a low fire. Baste with a non alcholic marinade (I'd hate to waste
the beer, wine and sundry hootch on him when some Tabasco, lime with
garlic would do the trick nicely) and cook slowly until the roast is
nice and tender and the mast is higly polished.
While all this is happening, the cook and his giggling French-Welsh
Canadian sidekick will take care of any alcholic brews in the vicinity.
The "Ross Roast" should be done dy supper time, honk Adaio's new horn
and summon the Messabout hordes to a big serving of Lincoln Homestyle
Roast.
Yummmmmm! Pas me anouthe Maudite Pierre! Bon apetite!
Bruce Hector
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freeboatexchange/
Where I've just uploaded a few dozen "mood" photos from the 100
Islands to that groups files section,as Bruce Hallam says they are
better there, and I tend to agree with him now.
Peter for rising to my aid.
But, experienced institutional cook that I am, I'll take care of the
:Lincoln Roast" myself.
Take one un sanded mast, suspend it between two X's of 2 by 4 set at
each end of the mast. Screw slices from a cheap $1 store UHMV cutting
board into the crook of these X supports. This will let the mast
rotate relatively easily.
Jack up your both sides of your car and remove a tire. Now instal an
empty rim. Warp some line around the rim and twice around the mast.
Adjust the placement of the X crooks to tighten the line, and nail the
2 by 4 to a stake driven into the ground beside it. Start motor and
let it idle in reverse. This, thehaswest gear, and lots of torque for
the job at hand..
Cut long strips of sandpaper and give them to the pack of Sea Scouts
you've bribed to assist you by donating them a boat, and instruct them
to wrap the strip once around the mast at a slight angle and hold them
agaist the mast as you walk slowly along it's length.
Skewer one so called "Lincoln Ross Roast" in the centre of the mast,
over a low fire. Baste with a non alcholic marinade (I'd hate to waste
the beer, wine and sundry hootch on him when some Tabasco, lime with
garlic would do the trick nicely) and cook slowly until the roast is
nice and tender and the mast is higly polished.
While all this is happening, the cook and his giggling French-Welsh
Canadian sidekick will take care of any alcholic brews in the vicinity.
The "Ross Roast" should be done dy supper time, honk Adaio's new horn
and summon the Messabout hordes to a big serving of Lincoln Homestyle
Roast.
Yummmmmm! Pas me anouthe Maudite Pierre! Bon apetite!
Bruce Hector
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freeboatexchange/
Where I've just uploaded a few dozen "mood" photos from the 100
Islands to that groups files section,as Bruce Hallam says they are
better there, and I tend to agree with him now.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
conger up the faintest image of such an evil deed leaves me almost
speachless..........but only almost:-)
For the record,I firmly believe that neither Bruce"Bad Boy" Hector
nor I,Peter"Where's the GD beer"Lenihan would ever even contemplate
encouraging youths to engage in the manly task of transforming beer
into water,despite the fact that in some parts,the beer may indeed be
just about that,water.Indeed,it requires many man years of diligent
un-supervised practice to achieve such efficiencies of transformation
and is not the sort of thing that should be undertaken lightly.
In order to preserve the good names of us two pirates, it would be
normal to seek an apology,tout suite, but in your case Lincoln, it
may require something more fitting,a case of the best beer sold in
your area to be presented to"us" at the 2004 Kingston Blowout. I'm
sure Big Bad Bruce would approve :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,only slightly hurting from aspersions..............
> I have this horrible vision of Peter or Bruce offering one beer perhalf
> hour to a Sea Scout to do the job, assuming the varnish will getdry
> enough to stop rotating in an hour or so. But perhaps I shouldn'tOh the nerve and gaul of some folks! To even possess the ability to
> associate this nefarious plan with them...
>
> Lincoln
> who doesn't really give kids beer
conger up the faintest image of such an evil deed leaves me almost
speachless..........but only almost:-)
For the record,I firmly believe that neither Bruce"Bad Boy" Hector
nor I,Peter"Where's the GD beer"Lenihan would ever even contemplate
encouraging youths to engage in the manly task of transforming beer
into water,despite the fact that in some parts,the beer may indeed be
just about that,water.Indeed,it requires many man years of diligent
un-supervised practice to achieve such efficiencies of transformation
and is not the sort of thing that should be undertaken lightly.
In order to preserve the good names of us two pirates, it would be
normal to seek an apology,tout suite, but in your case Lincoln, it
may require something more fitting,a case of the best beer sold in
your area to be presented to"us" at the 2004 Kingston Blowout. I'm
sure Big Bad Bruce would approve :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,only slightly hurting from aspersions..............
Well, one way is a gadget called a gearmotor. I don't know what they
cost new in the sizes you need, but perhaps there is some gadget that
uses them. I suppose you could achieve the same effect with a jackshaft
or two with varying pulley sizes (a chain drive might be more
efficient) to really gear down and then use any old motor. Or how about
those gadgets they use to turn TV antennas? I don't know if they're ok
for continuous use. You could install some kind of socket in an old
clothes dryer, but that might be a little fast. Not too far off, tho.
You might also explore the drive components from an old clothes washer.
Seems like they are made to oscillate at a reasonable angular speed on
the gentle cycle. You'd want to convert to continuous rotation.
Oscillating fans often have a slowly rotating part, I think, to drive
the osciallation. Don't know if it's strong enough. These all seem like
a lot of work.
I have this horrible vision of Peter or Bruce offering one beer per half
hour to a Sea Scout to do the job, assuming the varnish will get dry
enough to stop rotating in an hour or so. But perhaps I shouldn't
associate this nefarious plan with them...
Lincoln
who doesn't really give kids beer
cost new in the sizes you need, but perhaps there is some gadget that
uses them. I suppose you could achieve the same effect with a jackshaft
or two with varying pulley sizes (a chain drive might be more
efficient) to really gear down and then use any old motor. Or how about
those gadgets they use to turn TV antennas? I don't know if they're ok
for continuous use. You could install some kind of socket in an old
clothes dryer, but that might be a little fast. Not too far off, tho.
You might also explore the drive components from an old clothes washer.
Seems like they are made to oscillate at a reasonable angular speed on
the gentle cycle. You'd want to convert to continuous rotation.
Oscillating fans often have a slowly rotating part, I think, to drive
the osciallation. Don't know if it's strong enough. These all seem like
a lot of work.
I have this horrible vision of Peter or Bruce offering one beer per half
hour to a Sea Scout to do the job, assuming the varnish will get dry
enough to stop rotating in an hour or so. But perhaps I shouldn't
associate this nefarious plan with them...
Lincoln
who doesn't really give kids beer
>David Ryan wrote:
>FBBB,
>
>It's finally getting warm enough I can think about refinishing the
>spars on the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen. A while back someone on
>the list suggested that putting the spars on a rotiserie might be a
>easy-ish way to achieve a pleasing finish.
>
>I'm imagine one end as a sort of plywood wheel with butchered
>c-clamps to hold one end of the spar, and the other end as a sort of
>plywood C, lined with old rollerblade wheels. What I'm not seeing
>very well is how to drive the whole contraption. Presumably a belt
>around the wheel; but a belt driven by what?
>
>Suggestions welcome.
>
>YIBB,
>
>David
>
There was an article in WoodenBoat within that last year on a home
built spar lathe to be used for sanding spars.
Peter
built spar lathe to be used for sanding spars.
Peter
Hi David
I'll try to place a 'SparBQ' picture in Bolger3 'Micro Gaffer' section.
Basic setup; two old skate bits and a scrap wood four-jaw chuck, turned by
the rotisserie motor. Crisper pictures of the details are available...
cheers
Derek
I'll try to place a 'SparBQ' picture in Bolger3 'Micro Gaffer' section.
Basic setup; two old skate bits and a scrap wood four-jaw chuck, turned by
the rotisserie motor. Crisper pictures of the details are available...
cheers
Derek
go to google and enter "bow lathe" and you will find the answer
Grant
on 4/8/04 6:29 PM, Nels atarvent@...wrote:
Grant
on 4/8/04 6:29 PM, Nels atarvent@...wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
>> FBBB,
>>
>> What I'm not seeing
>> very well is how to drive the whole contraption. Presumably a belt
>> around the wheel; but a belt driven by what?
>>
>> Suggestions welcome.
>>
> BBQ Rotiserie motor?
>
> Nels
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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> (978) 282-1349
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
Nels
> FBBB,BBQ Rotiserie motor?
>
>What I'm not seeing
> very well is how to drive the whole contraption. Presumably a belt
> around the wheel; but a belt driven by what?
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
Nels
FBBB,
It's finally getting warm enough I can think about refinishing the
spars on the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen. A while back someone on
the list suggested that putting the spars on a rotiserie might be a
easy-ish way to achieve a pleasing finish.
I'm imagine one end as a sort of plywood wheel with butchered
c-clamps to hold one end of the spar, and the other end as a sort of
plywood C, lined with old rollerblade wheels. What I'm not seeing
very well is how to drive the whole contraption. Presumably a belt
around the wheel; but a belt driven by what?
Suggestions welcome.
YIBB,
David
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It's finally getting warm enough I can think about refinishing the
spars on the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen. A while back someone on
the list suggested that putting the spars on a rotiserie might be a
easy-ish way to achieve a pleasing finish.
I'm imagine one end as a sort of plywood wheel with butchered
c-clamps to hold one end of the spar, and the other end as a sort of
plywood C, lined with old rollerblade wheels. What I'm not seeing
very well is how to drive the whole contraption. Presumably a belt
around the wheel; but a belt driven by what?
Suggestions welcome.
YIBB,
David
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296