Re: [bolger] Re: Reboarding a swamped dory!
In a message dated 4/13/04 11:00:46 PM,bruce_hector@...writes:
<< Just kick to shore against genuine 3 foot swells with a 15 knot, or
better, offshore breeze in you're sodden, freezing clothes. What? It
can't be more than a mile? >>
As I am in about the same physical shape as you describe yourself, I wouldn't
go out
to sea in a dory. I wouldn't get more than 100 yards from shore, maybe a lot
less.
<< Just kick to shore against genuine 3 foot swells with a 15 knot, or
better, offshore breeze in you're sodden, freezing clothes. What? It
can't be more than a mile? >>
As I am in about the same physical shape as you describe yourself, I wouldn't
go out
to sea in a dory. I wouldn't get more than 100 yards from shore, maybe a lot
less.
If you're really worried about reboarding, use a single scull. They are
really easy to get back into, and the oars are fastened in so they don't
go away. Plus those oars are long, so they don't need the life jacket
trick. Very little bailing required, either. And if you don't pay
attention when upright, they'll give you LOTS of reboarding practice,
especially at the dock where everyone can see you, and especially next
to those dead Charles River whitefish. (I suppose a live one might be
worse.)
Lincoln Ross
whose back doesn't seem to handle sliding seat rowing anymore
really easy to get back into, and the oars are fastened in so they don't
go away. Plus those oars are long, so they don't need the life jacket
trick. Very little bailing required, either. And if you don't pay
attention when upright, they'll give you LOTS of reboarding practice,
especially at the dock where everyone can see you, and especially next
to those dead Charles River whitefish. (I suppose a live one might be
worse.)
Lincoln Ross
whose back doesn't seem to handle sliding seat rowing anymore
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@m...>
wrote: "Didja finally dump the dory, Bruce?"
Nah, I've been treating it with far too much respect.
And you're right, she is very stable, once you're in and on the seat box.
But I cannot imagine reboarding her in deep water. I've seen her
swamped, rides very low in the water and then, with a 1000 pounds of
water onboard,is tender as hell. A couple of high tides have caught
her under the edge of the dock and tipped her or filled her. I keep a
2 gallon bucket on board as a bailer and it's come in handy.
I'll be adding bow and stern floatation chambers when I get her back
to my epoxy storage area, aka Rust Check Kingston.
Bruce Hector
wrote: "Didja finally dump the dory, Bruce?"
Nah, I've been treating it with far too much respect.
And you're right, she is very stable, once you're in and on the seat box.
But I cannot imagine reboarding her in deep water. I've seen her
swamped, rides very low in the water and then, with a 1000 pounds of
water onboard,is tender as hell. A couple of high tides have caught
her under the edge of the dock and tipped her or filled her. I keep a
2 gallon bucket on board as a bailer and it's come in handy.
I'll be adding bow and stern floatation chambers when I get her back
to my epoxy storage area, aka Rust Check Kingston.
Bruce Hector
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, frboblynn@a... wrote:
seaworthy dory.
Just kick to shore against genuine 3 foot swells with a 15 knot, or
better, offshore breeze in you're sodden, freezing clothes. What? It
can't be more than a mile?
Why does the shore seem to be shrinking?
Just imagine it, then practice your reboarding techniques.... in
shallow and tropical water until it's second nature.
Then imagine an overweight, out of shape (not like me at all <yeah,
right!>) retired Enron executive trying the same feat.
Bos'un Bruce
Who know that the best way to get Peter Lenihan back in is to throw a
six a pack of Laurentide Ale aboard.
> In a message dated 4/13/04 8:59:12 PM, Fr BobLynn writes:the
>
> << Gosh, sounds like it would be a lot easier and safer to hang onto
> transom andYep, that'll work just fine in the kind o' seas that'll dump a good
> kick your way in. >>
>
> I should have said, "...and kick your way in to shore."
>
> Yeah, the transom.
seaworthy dory.
Just kick to shore against genuine 3 foot swells with a 15 knot, or
better, offshore breeze in you're sodden, freezing clothes. What? It
can't be more than a mile?
Why does the shore seem to be shrinking?
Just imagine it, then practice your reboarding techniques.... in
shallow and tropical water until it's second nature.
Then imagine an overweight, out of shape (not like me at all <yeah,
right!>) retired Enron executive trying the same feat.
Bos'un Bruce
Who know that the best way to get Peter Lenihan back in is to throw a
six a pack of Laurentide Ale aboard.
Didja finally dump the dory, Bruce?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:19 PM
Subject: [bolger] Reboarding a swamped dory!
> This is a cross post of something I put up on the Michalak group, then
> thought, what the heck, it might save someone or their kids some day.
>
> So I hope the crosspost might be forgiven.
>
> Ta da!
>
> Now, if you end up out of the boat, any dory is impossible to reboard
> in deep water (over yer' head lad!) unless you know the trick.
>
> What's that?
>
> Oh the trick. Why yes, I do know the trick. Did you want to know the
> trick too?
>
> It's simple, but never easy.
>
> While treading water and hanging on to the gunwale, tie your life
> jacket to the blade end of an oar. Hook the other end, and you may
> need a quicky lash here too, under the opposite gunwale. Now you've
> got a poor imitation of a proa. A float at the end of a pole, stayed
> out to one side.
>
> Now make a loop of line hanging down into the wa wa so that the bottom
> of the loop is bobbing about where your knees are.
>
> Stick yer' good leg in the loop, straighten up smartly while heaving
> with your arms on the gunwales and flop into the half flooded dory
> like a gasping mullet. Overcorrect, if needed, to the side with the
> proa-oarabd lifejacket sticking out from it. That way the tippy little
> sucker won't spit you out the other side.
>
> Nothing to it. If you believ that, practice just off a beach on a nice
> day. Just might save your life someday.
>
> Then bail out the boat with your bailing bucket that was tied in, and
> grab your safety lined oars, re-don your lifejacket, and start rowing
> for shore.
>
> Cause' you need a big hot rum toddy.
>
> Hope you never need this tip, and that if you do, and it saves you or
> a loved one, stand me a pint some day.
>
> Bos'un Bruce Hector
> ps. To reboard a smallish skiff, use the leg loop at the transom and
> flop in lengthwise. Bob's your uncle. And always keep a few extra
> lines tied off somewhere in your little boats. Never know when you
> might need them.
>
>
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In a message dated 4/13/04 8:59:12 PM, Fr BobLynn writes:
<< Gosh, sounds like it would be a lot easier and safer to hang onto the
transom and
kick your way in. >>
I should have said, "...and kick your way in to shore."
Yeah, the transom.
<< Gosh, sounds like it would be a lot easier and safer to hang onto the
transom and
kick your way in. >>
I should have said, "...and kick your way in to shore."
Yeah, the transom.
Kick you way over the transom?
On a dory?
What transom?
Kicking and hauling themselves over the transom may work for the young
and fit clawing their way into a flat bottomed skiff who aren't in 100
pounds of sodden clothes, but the rope sling ladder works for me on a
small stable boat.
But a dory? I'd like to see it done.
While watching from shore with a chilled Bras D'or in my hand.
What I really worry about, in a rhetorical way (I don't really worry
much about anything), is the thousands now taking to Kayaking. Many
with little training and less experience out paddling a mile from
shore in cold waters. Never in wetsuits of course. A wet entry into a
kayak is an art for the physically fit, and a difficult one at that.
I'd probably have anothe heart attack trying, then calmly drown.
Thousands of baby boomers and their kin are out there paddling their
narrow liitle injection moulded or rotor cast plastic imitations of a
kayak purchased in a "mountain shop" from a cute, acne'ed clerk, who
also know nothing about safety in small boats. Dozens will drown over
the next few years and we'll wonder why our legislators are going to
be passing laws that keep us off the water in anything smaller than a
small aircraft carrier.
Lucky for me, I've got the plans ready for mine.
Bruce Hector
Wondering how anyone can write a tome of such nautical drivel without
a cold bottle of Maudite in their fist, oh Yeah, A glass of Jack
Daniels on the rocks helps!
On a dory?
What transom?
Kicking and hauling themselves over the transom may work for the young
and fit clawing their way into a flat bottomed skiff who aren't in 100
pounds of sodden clothes, but the rope sling ladder works for me on a
small stable boat.
But a dory? I'd like to see it done.
While watching from shore with a chilled Bras D'or in my hand.
What I really worry about, in a rhetorical way (I don't really worry
much about anything), is the thousands now taking to Kayaking. Many
with little training and less experience out paddling a mile from
shore in cold waters. Never in wetsuits of course. A wet entry into a
kayak is an art for the physically fit, and a difficult one at that.
I'd probably have anothe heart attack trying, then calmly drown.
Thousands of baby boomers and their kin are out there paddling their
narrow liitle injection moulded or rotor cast plastic imitations of a
kayak purchased in a "mountain shop" from a cute, acne'ed clerk, who
also know nothing about safety in small boats. Dozens will drown over
the next few years and we'll wonder why our legislators are going to
be passing laws that keep us off the water in anything smaller than a
small aircraft carrier.
Lucky for me, I've got the plans ready for mine.
Bruce Hector
Wondering how anyone can write a tome of such nautical drivel without
a cold bottle of Maudite in their fist, oh Yeah, A glass of Jack
Daniels on the rocks helps!
Gosh, sounds like it would be a lot easier and safer to hang onto the transom
and
kick your way in. Hope we never have to find out which of these or others
are the
better way to re-enter a dory in water over our heads or even in more shallow
water
for that matter.
Best wishes,
boblynn
frboblynn@...
and
kick your way in. Hope we never have to find out which of these or others
are the
better way to re-enter a dory in water over our heads or even in more shallow
water
for that matter.
Best wishes,
boblynn
frboblynn@...
This is a cross post of something I put up on the Michalak group, then
thought, what the heck, it might save someone or their kids some day.
So I hope the crosspost might be forgiven.
Ta da!
Now, if you end up out of the boat, any dory is impossible to reboard
in deep water (over yer' head lad!) unless you know the trick.
What's that?
Oh the trick. Why yes, I do know the trick. Did you want to know the
trick too?
It's simple, but never easy.
While treading water and hanging on to the gunwale, tie your life
jacket to the blade end of an oar. Hook the other end, and you may
need a quicky lash here too, under the opposite gunwale. Now you've
got a poor imitation of a proa. A float at the end of a pole, stayed
out to one side.
Now make a loop of line hanging down into the wa wa so that the bottom
of the loop is bobbing about where your knees are.
Stick yer' good leg in the loop, straighten up smartly while heaving
with your arms on the gunwales and flop into the half flooded dory
like a gasping mullet. Overcorrect, if needed, to the side with the
proa-oarabd lifejacket sticking out from it. That way the tippy little
sucker won't spit you out the other side.
Nothing to it. If you believ that, practice just off a beach on a nice
day. Just might save your life someday.
Then bail out the boat with your bailing bucket that was tied in, and
grab your safety lined oars, re-don your lifejacket, and start rowing
for shore.
Cause' you need a big hot rum toddy.
Hope you never need this tip, and that if you do, and it saves you or
a loved one, stand me a pint some day.
Bos'un Bruce Hector
ps. To reboard a smallish skiff, use the leg loop at the transom and
flop in lengthwise. Bob's your uncle. And always keep a few extra
lines tied off somewhere in your little boats. Never know when you
might need them.
thought, what the heck, it might save someone or their kids some day.
So I hope the crosspost might be forgiven.
Ta da!
Now, if you end up out of the boat, any dory is impossible to reboard
in deep water (over yer' head lad!) unless you know the trick.
What's that?
Oh the trick. Why yes, I do know the trick. Did you want to know the
trick too?
It's simple, but never easy.
While treading water and hanging on to the gunwale, tie your life
jacket to the blade end of an oar. Hook the other end, and you may
need a quicky lash here too, under the opposite gunwale. Now you've
got a poor imitation of a proa. A float at the end of a pole, stayed
out to one side.
Now make a loop of line hanging down into the wa wa so that the bottom
of the loop is bobbing about where your knees are.
Stick yer' good leg in the loop, straighten up smartly while heaving
with your arms on the gunwales and flop into the half flooded dory
like a gasping mullet. Overcorrect, if needed, to the side with the
proa-oarabd lifejacket sticking out from it. That way the tippy little
sucker won't spit you out the other side.
Nothing to it. If you believ that, practice just off a beach on a nice
day. Just might save your life someday.
Then bail out the boat with your bailing bucket that was tied in, and
grab your safety lined oars, re-don your lifejacket, and start rowing
for shore.
Cause' you need a big hot rum toddy.
Hope you never need this tip, and that if you do, and it saves you or
a loved one, stand me a pint some day.
Bos'un Bruce Hector
ps. To reboard a smallish skiff, use the leg loop at the transom and
flop in lengthwise. Bob's your uncle. And always keep a few extra
lines tied off somewhere in your little boats. Never know when you
might need them.