Re: Boat Plans and Sails and Who does What!
> As an aside, I'd note that in my experience anyway boat plansI would go so far as to say that no professional sailmaker would give
> with explicit sailmaking instructions are an exception, rather
> than the norm. A good sailmaker doesn't need them, and
> they won't turn a novice into a good sailmaker.
more than a passing glance to recommendations from the boat designer.
The sources already cited are good. If you are interested in makeing
your own sails, you might start with polytarp, or the like. It's
amazingly easy to make a sail capable of getting you around a lake
(or lake-sized piece of ocean).
Peter
Hi Gene
Several options;
Chuck at Duckworks has recently started providing a range of Dacron sails
[and polytarp versions too, IIRC] at very good prices. I haven't seen the
sails, but knowing Chuck I'm sure you would be happy with the product - he's
a good guy.
Sailrite have a business centred on doing the difficult part of sailmaking
(accurately cutting the panels to build good well shaped sails), leaving you
the customer to do the easy part; sewing the panels together and doing the
finishing work. They sell you a kit including all the hardware and the sails
can be assembled using a domestic sewing machine. I've built a few Sailrite
sails and been well pleased with the outcome. It's rewarding.
Hunt around locally for a 'Sailor's exchange' or 'Marine junk' store -
second hand sails can be had for next to nothing, and cut down to fit. It
would help if you had a bit of sail-hacking experience to make this last
option work well, but it's the cheapest of the lot - less than good
polytarp. As an example I recently picked up a 36 foot jib with damaged
corners which will have a new life as a dinghy sail, some sailcovers, a
possible crashmat and assorted bags. Cost; less than $10.
As an aside, I'd note that in my experience anyway boat plans with explicit
sailmaking instructions are an exception, rather than the norm. A good
sailmaker doesn't need them, and they won't turn a novice into a good
sailmaker. If you are interested in the processes there are a couple of good
books out there; "The Sailmaker's Apprentice" by Emiliano Marino [sp?] and
Todd Bradshaw's Canoe sailing book being the two I can vouch for personally.
Todd's book is more generally applicable to small boat sailing than the
title perhaps suggests.
cheers
Derek
Several options;
Chuck at Duckworks has recently started providing a range of Dacron sails
[and polytarp versions too, IIRC] at very good prices. I haven't seen the
sails, but knowing Chuck I'm sure you would be happy with the product - he's
a good guy.
Sailrite have a business centred on doing the difficult part of sailmaking
(accurately cutting the panels to build good well shaped sails), leaving you
the customer to do the easy part; sewing the panels together and doing the
finishing work. They sell you a kit including all the hardware and the sails
can be assembled using a domestic sewing machine. I've built a few Sailrite
sails and been well pleased with the outcome. It's rewarding.
Hunt around locally for a 'Sailor's exchange' or 'Marine junk' store -
second hand sails can be had for next to nothing, and cut down to fit. It
would help if you had a bit of sail-hacking experience to make this last
option work well, but it's the cheapest of the lot - less than good
polytarp. As an example I recently picked up a 36 foot jib with damaged
corners which will have a new life as a dinghy sail, some sailcovers, a
possible crashmat and assorted bags. Cost; less than $10.
As an aside, I'd note that in my experience anyway boat plans with explicit
sailmaking instructions are an exception, rather than the norm. A good
sailmaker doesn't need them, and they won't turn a novice into a good
sailmaker. If you are interested in the processes there are a couple of good
books out there; "The Sailmaker's Apprentice" by Emiliano Marino [sp?] and
Todd Bradshaw's Canoe sailing book being the two I can vouch for personally.
Todd's book is more generally applicable to small boat sailing than the
title perhaps suggests.
cheers
Derek
Can't speak for the plans (we bought our Oldshoe from the builder, and no,
we don't have a lot of advice about her as we haven't taken her out of
winter storage yet). I'd suggest you check with www.sailrite.com
<http://www.sailrite.com/> , as they sell kits to sew your own Oldshoe
sails. The prices are most reasonable, and they're available for advice as
needed. Good people to know, even if you don't buy the kit.
David Romasco
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From: tehansky [mailto:goldranger02-boats@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:53 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Boat Plans and Sails and Who does What!
Having just discovered that the Old Shoe plans do not have specific
information on sail panel widths and how much draft should be built
into the sails, I was wondering. What do most builders do (not just
for Old Shoe but other Bolger plans)? Do you buy sails pre made? Do
you go to some other source for information on how to cut the sails?
Are all the sails built flat, is that the proper type of sail for
these plans?
Inquiring minds want to know. I'll say thanks ahead of time for your
opinions and methods that you used for the various bolger designs you
have built.
Gene T.
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we don't have a lot of advice about her as we haven't taken her out of
winter storage yet). I'd suggest you check with www.sailrite.com
<http://www.sailrite.com/> , as they sell kits to sew your own Oldshoe
sails. The prices are most reasonable, and they're available for advice as
needed. Good people to know, even if you don't buy the kit.
David Romasco
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From: tehansky [mailto:goldranger02-boats@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:53 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Boat Plans and Sails and Who does What!
Having just discovered that the Old Shoe plans do not have specific
information on sail panel widths and how much draft should be built
into the sails, I was wondering. What do most builders do (not just
for Old Shoe but other Bolger plans)? Do you buy sails pre made? Do
you go to some other source for information on how to cut the sails?
Are all the sails built flat, is that the proper type of sail for
these plans?
Inquiring minds want to know. I'll say thanks ahead of time for your
opinions and methods that you used for the various bolger designs you
have built.
Gene T.
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Having just discovered that the Old Shoe plans do not have specific
information on sail panel widths and how much draft should be built
into the sails, I was wondering. What do most builders do (not just
for Old Shoe but other Bolger plans)? Do you buy sails pre made? Do
you go to some other source for information on how to cut the sails?
Are all the sails built flat, is that the proper type of sail for
these plans?
Inquiring minds want to know. I'll say thanks ahead of time for your
opinions and methods that you used for the various bolger designs you
have built.
Gene T.
information on sail panel widths and how much draft should be built
into the sails, I was wondering. What do most builders do (not just
for Old Shoe but other Bolger plans)? Do you buy sails pre made? Do
you go to some other source for information on how to cut the sails?
Are all the sails built flat, is that the proper type of sail for
these plans?
Inquiring minds want to know. I'll say thanks ahead of time for your
opinions and methods that you used for the various bolger designs you
have built.
Gene T.