Re: [bolger] Tortoise chine log difficulty...
I did something similar with the cuts, not really paying attention to
symetry of the final three pieces. Function over form! Basically fit
the two outdside ones to get the largest coverage, and clamp on, the for
the middle piece put on top, make pencil marks where the cuts need to be
top and bottom, cut and glue it all. I used weldwood powdered glue,
numerous clamps. Flipped over, and used a sabre saw to cut off excess,
finished up with plane. Used Bondo to fill gaps on three chine pieces,
and where end grain of sides and chines meet.
A seasons use last year proved the chiones very sturdy and water tight.
Just as an aside, I left off the decking so my long legs and my short
daughter could keep the weight in the back. Some sort of incresed
support between transom and sides would be in order-- the top flexed a
bit, but otherwise worked OK. I used it only for rowing, hjust to get
the kids on the water. This year will build the mast, add the support
and get them sailing a bit.
I also changed the rowing station, to row facing back to bow. The trim
wasn't great, but it worked, and proved to be a stable little boat, just
not a lot of glide. Still, I did 2+ mile rows at a casual pace, and
never felt like I was fighting to keep my course.
Ed Vaitones
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symetry of the final three pieces. Function over form! Basically fit
the two outdside ones to get the largest coverage, and clamp on, the for
the middle piece put on top, make pencil marks where the cuts need to be
top and bottom, cut and glue it all. I used weldwood powdered glue,
numerous clamps. Flipped over, and used a sabre saw to cut off excess,
finished up with plane. Used Bondo to fill gaps on three chine pieces,
and where end grain of sides and chines meet.
A seasons use last year proved the chiones very sturdy and water tight.
Just as an aside, I left off the decking so my long legs and my short
daughter could keep the weight in the back. Some sort of incresed
support between transom and sides would be in order-- the top flexed a
bit, but otherwise worked OK. I used it only for rowing, hjust to get
the kids on the water. This year will build the mast, add the support
and get them sailing a bit.
I also changed the rowing station, to row facing back to bow. The trim
wasn't great, but it worked, and proved to be a stable little boat, just
not a lot of glide. Still, I did 2+ mile rows at a casual pace, and
never felt like I was fighting to keep my course.
Ed Vaitones
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Use more goo! It's a Tortoise. If I was doing one of these and I
insisted on a tight fit, I'd make an assembly of the 3 chine logs first,
without any curved edges, THEN trim to fit the side of the boat. Hope
that make sense. This is a model airplane trick.
insisted on a tight fit, I'd make an assembly of the 3 chine logs first,
without any curved edges, THEN trim to fit the side of the boat. Hope
that make sense. This is a model airplane trick.
>Justin Meddock wrote:
>Does anyone have a trick to get nice tight joints in the
>3 piece Tortoise chine logs? In several attempts I have yet to make
>one that I am happy with.
>
>Justin
>
Justin,
another option is to just flex a 1x2 along the edges of the side
panel. It will flex fair and true....i've done this on 2 bricks and
a pd racer no sweat......i put the logs on the inside though...just
a matter of preference.
The pd racer, brick and tortise are of the same lineage. some hints
can be found at
pdracer.com
click on hull constructions. it shows good pictures of both ways to
install the logs.
jason
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Meddock" <jmeddock@n...>
wrote:
another option is to just flex a 1x2 along the edges of the side
panel. It will flex fair and true....i've done this on 2 bricks and
a pd racer no sweat......i put the logs on the inside though...just
a matter of preference.
The pd racer, brick and tortise are of the same lineage. some hints
can be found at
pdracer.com
click on hull constructions. it shows good pictures of both ways to
install the logs.
jason
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Meddock" <jmeddock@n...>
wrote:
> Does anyone have a trick to get nice tight joints in the
> 3 piece Tortoise chine logs? In several attempts I have yet to make
> one that I am happy with.
>
> Justin
Justin:
Here is what I did. I cut the plywood sides to shape and then clamped the
uncut forward and aft chine pieces onto the sides, leaving plenty of wood to
shape the blanks to the bottom curvature. I traced the straight lines from the
two pieces onto the sides, unclamped them, and clamped the middle chine piece
over the ply sides, and then traced the straight lines from the plywood sides
onto the middle chine piece. I cut along the trace and checked by dry fitting
the three pieces and then epoxied them together over the sides. When the glue
dried I fit the chine piece to the bottom, epoxied it, and after the glue
dried shaped it to the bottom curvature using a saw and plane. Hope this helps.
Sam Betty
Denver
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Here is what I did. I cut the plywood sides to shape and then clamped the
uncut forward and aft chine pieces onto the sides, leaving plenty of wood to
shape the blanks to the bottom curvature. I traced the straight lines from the
two pieces onto the sides, unclamped them, and clamped the middle chine piece
over the ply sides, and then traced the straight lines from the plywood sides
onto the middle chine piece. I cut along the trace and checked by dry fitting
the three pieces and then epoxied them together over the sides. When the glue
dried I fit the chine piece to the bottom, epoxied it, and after the glue
dried shaped it to the bottom curvature using a saw and plane. Hope this helps.
Sam Betty
Denver
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Does anyone have a trick to get nice tight joints in the
3 piece Tortoise chine logs? In several attempts I have yet to make
one that I am happy with.
Justin
3 piece Tortoise chine logs? In several attempts I have yet to make
one that I am happy with.
Justin