Re: Starting thin and working up
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@i...> > I
have been thinking about how I will build my boat, and one thing
T&G flooring laid athwartship, then installing a layer of plywood
over that? This way you would have lots of "purchase" when gluing and
screwing down the plywood.
Then glass tapes along the chines and finally a heavy layer of glass,
after the shoe has been installed?
Cheers, Nels
have been thinking about how I will build my boat, and one thing
> that occured to me was to build with the first lamination being1/4"
> and then "cladding" the result with the rest of the wood I need toand
> make it the necessary thickness. This way I can do initial bends
> joints to critical dimensions with less muscle. It might add someWhat about starting thick and working down? Make the initial layer
> cost, but not much work overall.
>
> Anybody else doing this?
T&G flooring laid athwartship, then installing a layer of plywood
over that? This way you would have lots of "purchase" when gluing and
screwing down the plywood.
Then glass tapes along the chines and finally a heavy layer of glass,
after the shoe has been installed?
Cheers, Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@i...>
wrote:
completely forgot that you had posted two variations in the photo
section.
It is a fine looking boat and your proposed cabin changes are a
credit to the spirit! Going straight away with 1/2" ply instead of
the more labour intensive 1/4" build up will not be that hard and
will greatly save on time and money.I don't know what Bolger calls
for in hull scantlings but my guess would be something like a 1 1/2"
shoe,1" bottom,1/2" sides with 1/4" used for the rest of the
superstructure(cabin).
A nice thing with 1/2" ply is that it is stiff enough to not
wobble,flex,buckle or otherwise misbehave while being manhandled and
requires less framing stock to"stabilize"....unlike the flimsy 1/4".
It'll be great to hear of another Bolger boat a-building :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
> Idaho, with a Minnesota like superstructure, or Minnesota.Leaning
> toward Minnesota right now.I guess you can tell that I was only firing on one cylinder.....I
completely forgot that you had posted two variations in the photo
section.
It is a fine looking boat and your proposed cabin changes are a
credit to the spirit! Going straight away with 1/2" ply instead of
the more labour intensive 1/4" build up will not be that hard and
will greatly save on time and money.I don't know what Bolger calls
for in hull scantlings but my guess would be something like a 1 1/2"
shoe,1" bottom,1/2" sides with 1/4" used for the rest of the
superstructure(cabin).
A nice thing with 1/2" ply is that it is stiff enough to not
wobble,flex,buckle or otherwise misbehave while being manhandled and
requires less framing stock to"stabilize"....unlike the flimsy 1/4".
It'll be great to hear of another Bolger boat a-building :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Idaho, with a Minnesota like superstructure, or Minnesota. Leaning
toward Minnesota right now. It is pretty much a smaller Wyoming.
Idaho, with a Minnesota like superstructure, or Minnesota. Leaning
toward Minnesota right now. It is pretty much a smaller Wyoming.
> What boat are you scheming to build?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@i...>
wrote:
for nothing.Some pro builders,like Sam Devlin,do build some of their
bigger boats by first "stitching" up the hull shape in 1/2" and then
adding subsequent layers of 1/4" etc.....but not,to my knowledge,the
other way around.
Laminating up to a desired thickness with progressive layers of 1/4"
ply presents opportunities for glue voids between the layers of 1/4"
if you do not have some method to ensure evenly applied all-over
pressure.
What boat are you scheming to build?
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
> I have been thinking about how I will build my boat, and one thing1/4"
> that occured to me was to build with the first lamination being
> and then "cladding" the result with the rest of the wood I need toand
> make it the necessary thickness. This way I can do initial bends
> joints to critical dimensions with less muscle. It might add someDepending on what size boat you are building,this may be more work
> cost, but not much work overall.
>
> Anybody else doing this?
for nothing.Some pro builders,like Sam Devlin,do build some of their
bigger boats by first "stitching" up the hull shape in 1/2" and then
adding subsequent layers of 1/4" etc.....but not,to my knowledge,the
other way around.
Laminating up to a desired thickness with progressive layers of 1/4"
ply presents opportunities for glue voids between the layers of 1/4"
if you do not have some method to ensure evenly applied all-over
pressure.
What boat are you scheming to build?
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
From: "dnjost" <djost@m...>
Date: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:48 am
Subject: Re: bottom butt straps?
I staggered two sheets of 1/4" to laminate the bottom of my micro.
I worked fine with no problems.
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I have been thinking about how I will build my boat, and one thing
that occured to me was to build with the first lamination being 1/4"
and then "cladding" the result with the rest of the wood I need to
make it the necessary thickness. This way I can do initial bends and
joints to critical dimensions with less muscle. It might add some
cost, but not much work overall.
Anybody else doing this?
Date: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:48 am
Subject: Re: bottom butt straps?
I staggered two sheets of 1/4" to laminate the bottom of my micro.
I worked fine with no problems.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I have been thinking about how I will build my boat, and one thing
that occured to me was to build with the first lamination being 1/4"
and then "cladding" the result with the rest of the wood I need to
make it the necessary thickness. This way I can do initial bends and
joints to critical dimensions with less muscle. It might add some
cost, but not much work overall.
Anybody else doing this?