Re: [bolger] An option? Was Yamaha 9.9 high thrust price?

Any experience withhttp://www.maxrules.com/fixnissanindex.html???
They show lots of parts for Tohatsu outboards.

Roger
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Meddock" <jmeddock@...>


> I had a Tohatsu outboard on my keelboat 6-7 years ago, it was
> a 1987 model longshaft. It was really fine piece, ran flawlessly.
> Well constructed, easy to work on.
> However, the importer in Texas discontinued some of the parts,
> lower unit seals, water pump impeller, prop shaft seal.
> The parts are still produced by Tohatsu, the importer refused
> to get them for me. I can see not keeping the parts in the US,
> but an outright refusal to help me in any way on a 10 year old
> product really ticked me off. BTW, Nissan is the same motor,
> same importer. I won't buy another one...
> I would
> feel better with a US motor.

Is there such a thing as a US motor? From what I understand, there
are perhaps two companies making low-power outboards in Japan (Honda
& Tomatsu) which are sold under a range of brand names: Mariner,
Nissan, Mercury, etc.

The OMC business which was still making it's own higher horsepower
engines was bought by a Canadian company, and who knows where the
motors are made. My own motor guy, a Mercury dealer, says that
dealers are fleeing from the OMC brands.

Peter
Also,

I forgot to add that you can get parts for US made motors
in nearly every town in the country, my Japanese motors
(Tohatsu, Suzuki, Honda) have been
much more difficult to get parts for. I forget what we were powering
in this thread, but if I was cruising ICW, rivers, or Great Lakes, I would
feel better with US motor. The Japanese motor dealerships are more
common now than they were 10 years ago, but I sure like being able to
walk in the dealer and point to the part I need on the
page/microfiche/monitor
vs. describing the part I want to the parts guy over the phone @ the
dealer 300 miles away.

Justin
FWIW, the Tohatsu 4-stroke 15 looks suspiciously identical to my Mercury
4-stroke 15.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Meddock" <jmeddock@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] An option? Was Yamaha 9.9 high thrust price?


| I had a Tohatsu outboard on my keelboat 6-7 years ago, it was a 1987 model
| longshaft. It was really fine piece, ran flawlessly. Well constructed,
easy
| to work on.
| However, the importer in Texas discontinued some of the parts,
| lower unit seals, water pump impeller, prop shaft seal.
| The parts are still produced by Tohatsu, the importer refused
| to get them for me. I can see not keeping the parts in the US,
| but an outright refusal to help me in any way on a 10 year old
| product really ticked me off. BTW, Nissan is the same motor,
| same importer. I won't buy another one...
|
| Justin
|
|
|
| ?
|
|
| > Bruce
| > You might want to take a look at the 9.8 Tohatsu 4 stroke--it weighs
| > 81 pounds for the minimum version. Personally I think the Tohatsu is
| > the best outboard in the world--they were originally built for
| > commercial fishermen (the smallest outboard to power a boat across
| > the Atlantic is a Tohatsu 2 horse--they ran it 13-16 hours a day).
| >
| > The 9.8 is $1625 from:http://www.onlineoutboards.com/#
| >
| > The 9.9 4 stroke is actually a little cheaper ($1589) but according
| > to (this gets interesting) the dealer's websites it weighs 114--but
| > according to the official Tohatsu brochure I downloaded from Tohatsu,
| > the minimal version should also weigh 81 lbs. I don't know why the
| > discrepancy but 30 more pounds on the stern of a Micro could be
| > significant.
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
|
| Bolger rules!!!
| - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
| - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
| - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
| - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
(978) 282-1349
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|
|
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|
I had a Tohatsu outboard on my keelboat 6-7 years ago, it was a 1987 model
longshaft. It was really fine piece, ran flawlessly. Well constructed, easy
to work on.
However, the importer in Texas discontinued some of the parts,
lower unit seals, water pump impeller, prop shaft seal.
The parts are still produced by Tohatsu, the importer refused
to get them for me. I can see not keeping the parts in the US,
but an outright refusal to help me in any way on a 10 year old
product really ticked me off. BTW, Nissan is the same motor,
same importer. I won't buy another one...

Justin



?


> Bruce
> You might want to take a look at the 9.8 Tohatsu 4 stroke--it weighs
> 81 pounds for the minimum version. Personally I think the Tohatsu is
> the best outboard in the world--they were originally built for
> commercial fishermen (the smallest outboard to power a boat across
> the Atlantic is a Tohatsu 2 horse--they ran it 13-16 hours a day).
>
> The 9.8 is $1625 from:http://www.onlineoutboards.com/#
>
> The 9.9 4 stroke is actually a little cheaper ($1589) but according
> to (this gets interesting) the dealer's websites it weighs 114--but
> according to the official Tohatsu brochure I downloaded from Tohatsu,
> the minimal version should also weigh 81 lbs. I don't know why the
> discrepancy but 30 more pounds on the stern of a Micro could be
> significant.
>
>
Bruce
You might want to take a look at the 9.8 Tohatsu 4 stroke--it weighs
81 pounds for the minimum version. Personally I think the Tohatsu is
the best outboard in the world--they were originally built for
commercial fishermen (the smallest outboard to power a boat across
the Atlantic is a Tohatsu 2 horse--they ran it 13-16 hours a day).

The 9.8 is $1625 from:http://www.onlineoutboards.com/#

The 9.9 4 stroke is actually a little cheaper ($1589) but according
to (this gets interesting) the dealer's websites it weighs 114--but
according to the official Tohatsu brochure I downloaded from Tohatsu,
the minimal version should also weigh 81 lbs. I don't know why the
discrepancy but 30 more pounds on the stern of a Micro could be
significant.

j




--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, bruce@h... wrote:
> Bolger often specifies the Yamaha 9.9
> high thrust outboard, like on the Champlain
> etc.. I am thinking of this motor for
> my Micro Navigator.
>
> It appears that Yamaha has their dealers under
> some kind of 'gag order' so that the price of
> these outboards cannot be determined by searching
> websites.
>
> Does anybody know what the dealer cost
> is for one of these motors?
Hi Bruce -

Just something I try to warn everyone about on the Yamaha O.B.'s --- the fresh water tube that brings water up to cool the motor for some reason is very small in diameter. Everyone I know (myself & my son included) about 12 people, all love the Yamaha but this tube constantly get's clogged from a build-up of salt crystals.

I suppose Yamaha saves a nickle on each smaller tube.

The solution we've found is to carry a gallon bottle of "Vinigar" and put it in a bucket and lowering the prop (water intake) into the bucket and run the engine a minute of so to disolve any buildup - it works.

If I were to buy another O.B. when my "Champlain" is completed I will still go with a Yamaha. Unless Honda or one of the US O.B,'s (are any still made in the USA ?) has corrected this problem.

Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale, Fla.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tryhttp://www.boats.net/cgi-local/listings.pl?stype=motor&type=list&HP=9.9

They list the Yamaha high thrust 9.9 25" shaft, electric start, tiller model
for $2,200. That's probably $600-700 less than list.

I wound up buying a Mercury from Bass Pro Shops. They were hundreds less
than list as well.

JB



----- Original Message -----
From: "grant corson" <corson@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Yamaha 9.9 high thrust price?


> I just bought a used one for $1500 in really good condition (only used by
a
> little old lady......)
> Grant
> launch date for the boat it goes on will be May 22!
>
>
> on 4/30/04 12:58 PM,bruce@...atbruce@...wrote:
>
> > Bolger often specifies the Yamaha 9.9
> > high thrust outboard, like on the Champlain
> > etc.. I am thinking of this motor for
> > my Micro Navigator.
> >
> > It appears that Yamaha has their dealers under
> > some kind of 'gag order' so that the price of
> > these outboards cannot be determined by searching
> > websites.
> >
> > Does anybody know what the dealer cost
> > is for one of these motors?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> > - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax:
> > (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
(978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
I just bought a used one for $1500 in really good condition (only used by a
little old lady......)
Grant
launch date for the boat it goes on will be May 22!


on 4/30/04 12:58 PM,bruce@...atbruce@...wrote:

> Bolger often specifies the Yamaha 9.9
> high thrust outboard, like on the Champlain
> etc.. I am thinking of this motor for
> my Micro Navigator.
>
> It appears that Yamaha has their dealers under
> some kind of 'gag order' so that the price of
> these outboards cannot be determined by searching
> websites.
>
> Does anybody know what the dealer cost
> is for one of these motors?
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
> (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
Bolger often specifies the Yamaha 9.9
high thrust outboard, like on the Champlain
etc.. I am thinking of this motor for
my Micro Navigator.

It appears that Yamaha has their dealers under
some kind of 'gag order' so that the price of
these outboards cannot be determined by searching
websites.

Does anybody know what the dealer cost
is for one of these motors?