Re: [bolger] Re: Air Stapler
Roger Derby wrote:
I use them doing canoes and kayaks.
If I was doing a foam stripper I'd get the raptor setup.
I do have about six or seven different staplers so it's different staple
for diff. materials.
Have yet wanted to leave the little buggers in anything but cabinets.
--
Steve Studley
Quality Flooring Works
Tampa, FL
MacGregor 36/40
"Lil' Behind"
Still trying to get caught up...
>I do hope you'll try it and report when/if it works. When I tried it theProbably depends on the staple depth, crown width and gauge.
>plastic shredded and the staple remained in place. It did make it easy to
>grab the staple with pliers/vise-grips and pull it out, but it sure didn't
>match my image of just grabbing the strap and removing them by the dozen
>with one pull.
>
>Roger
>derbyrm@...
>derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
>
>
I use them doing canoes and kayaks.
If I was doing a foam stripper I'd get the raptor setup.
I do have about six or seven different staplers so it's different staple
for diff. materials.
Have yet wanted to leave the little buggers in anything but cabinets.
--
Steve Studley
Quality Flooring Works
Tampa, FL
MacGregor 36/40
"Lil' Behind"
Still trying to get caught up...
I do hope you'll try it and report when/if it works. When I tried it the
plastic shredded and the staple remained in place. It did make it easy to
grab the staple with pliers/vise-grips and pull it out, but it sure didn't
match my image of just grabbing the strap and removing them by the dozen
with one pull.
Roger
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
plastic shredded and the staple remained in place. It did make it easy to
grab the staple with pliers/vise-grips and pull it out, but it sure didn't
match my image of just grabbing the strap and removing them by the dozen
with one pull.
Roger
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <sstudle1@...>
> Don't know what you are stapling or why, but if you are stapling
> to hold a glue joint... try regular staples thru plastic band wrap.
> The kind they use for wrapping pallets of whatever. Then you
> pull out easily after the joint is set. Also might look into
> the Raptor line of plasic staple. These won't hurt a thing when you
> plane over them.
Robb wrote:
a glue joint... try regular staples thru plastic band wrap. The kind
they use for wrapping pallets of whatever.
then you pull out easily after the joint is set. Also might look into
the Raptor line of plasic staple. These won't hurt a thing when you
plane over them.
Have fun, see ya sailin'
--
Steve Studley
Quality Flooring Works
Tampa, FL
MacGregor 36/40
"Lil' Behind"
Still trying to get caught up...
>Hi again......I have been researching this and I've finally found thatDon't know what you are stapling or why, but if you are stapling to hold
>316 SS is suitable for boatbuilding. The catch is that you can only
>get SS staples and nails for certain guns. I bought a bostitch 7/32
>crown stapler just for the purpose of boat building only to find out
>that you can't get them in SS! you have to have senco or a few other
>brands and they are expensive!!!......I still think they are worth the
>money for several reasons: ALOT of time saved, stronger, impossible to
>back out.
>
>
a glue joint... try regular staples thru plastic band wrap. The kind
they use for wrapping pallets of whatever.
then you pull out easily after the joint is set. Also might look into
the Raptor line of plasic staple. These won't hurt a thing when you
plane over them.
Have fun, see ya sailin'
--
Steve Studley
Quality Flooring Works
Tampa, FL
MacGregor 36/40
"Lil' Behind"
Still trying to get caught up...
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Robb" <rube2112us@y...> wrote:
Robb;
Corrosion in SS is quite different than for ferritic steels. 316SS is
recommended for marine fasteners over 304SS because of it's improved
resistance to interstitial (sp?) corrosion in salt water. However,
neither grade actually turns into a swollen pile of red stuff the way
carbon steel does.
Interstitial corrosion mainly affects stressed components such as a
bolt, which is under tension. Staples used to hold pieces together
while glue sets become redundant in a cured joint. Thus, their long
term strength is unimportant.
The problem with carbon steel is that it swells considerably as it
corrodes. The result is sometimes visible. Some builders don't
consider it an issue, some do. 304SS and 316SS are austenitic
stainless steels. They don't swell as they corrode, they just get
weak. Of course, 316SS is much better at retaining it's strength.
Doug
Dry wall nails are also hard on planer blades.
Roger :-(
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Roger :-(
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----- Original Message -----
From: "doug6949" <prototype@...>
> I inquired once and the gun price was about $300. Sure beats pulling
> steel nails after the glue sets. The savings in planer blades might
> also help offset the cost.
Don't know about plastic staples. There is a plastic nail gun and I
think the brand name is Raptor. Some feller over on the
multihullboatbuilder list has one. It is supposed to work very well.
I inquired once and the gun price was about $300. Sure beats pulling
steel nails after the glue sets. The savings in planer blades might
also help offset the cost.
Doug
think the brand name is Raptor. Some feller over on the
multihullboatbuilder list has one. It is supposed to work very well.
I inquired once and the gun price was about $300. Sure beats pulling
steel nails after the glue sets. The savings in planer blades might
also help offset the cost.
Doug
> What is the name of that
> proprietary 'plastic' staple
> that strip canoe builders use?
Hi again......I have been researching this and I've finally found that
316 SS is suitable for boatbuilding. The catch is that you can only
get SS staples and nails for certain guns. I bought a bostitch 7/32
crown stapler just for the purpose of boat building only to find out
that you can't get them in SS! you have to have senco or a few other
brands and they are expensive!!!......I still think they are worth the
money for several reasons: ALOT of time saved, stronger, impossible to
back out.
From what I've learned, 304 stainless will corrode from repeated
saltwater exposure. Robb
316 SS is suitable for boatbuilding. The catch is that you can only
get SS staples and nails for certain guns. I bought a bostitch 7/32
crown stapler just for the purpose of boat building only to find out
that you can't get them in SS! you have to have senco or a few other
brands and they are expensive!!!......I still think they are worth the
money for several reasons: ALOT of time saved, stronger, impossible to
back out.
From what I've learned, 304 stainless will corrode from repeated
saltwater exposure. Robb
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> --- Robb wrote:
> > stainless staples
>
> Isn't Monel [nickel/copper] alloy
> the better choice than stainess?
>
> I don't know the answer to
> that question, but I have
> heard that 'stainless' can
> have corrosion problems in
> saltwater. Also, I wonder
> what the 'hardness' of Monel
> is relative to tool steel,
> in other words, will Monel
> staples chew up the blades
> of my plane, etc., like
> stainless would?
>
> I read once that there used
> to be a source of silicon
> bronze air gun staples,
> but that doesn't seem to be
> true anymore.
>
> What is the name of that
> proprietary 'plastic' staple
> that strip canoe builders use?
--- Robb wrote:
the better choice than stainess?
I don't know the answer to
that question, but I have
heard that 'stainless' can
have corrosion problems in
saltwater. Also, I wonder
what the 'hardness' of Monel
is relative to tool steel,
in other words, will Monel
staples chew up the blades
of my plane, etc., like
stainless would?
I read once that there used
to be a source of silicon
bronze air gun staples,
but that doesn't seem to be
true anymore.
What is the name of that
proprietary 'plastic' staple
that strip canoe builders use?
> stainless staplesIsn't Monel [nickel/copper] alloy
the better choice than stainess?
I don't know the answer to
that question, but I have
heard that 'stainless' can
have corrosion problems in
saltwater. Also, I wonder
what the 'hardness' of Monel
is relative to tool steel,
in other words, will Monel
staples chew up the blades
of my plane, etc., like
stainless would?
I read once that there used
to be a source of silicon
bronze air gun staples,
but that doesn't seem to be
true anymore.
What is the name of that
proprietary 'plastic' staple
that strip canoe builders use?
Hi......I'm getting ready for a build of a June Bug. I've been
reading alot on the web about people starting to use senco 1/4" crown
staples for most of the fastening jobs. I've checked this out and
found that you can get stainless staples for about every length you
need. Can anyone comment on this?.........Thanks.....Robb
reading alot on the web about people starting to use senco 1/4" crown
staples for most of the fastening jobs. I've checked this out and
found that you can get stainless staples for about every length you
need. Can anyone comment on this?.........Thanks.....Robb