[bolger] Re: Another Rig, of sorts

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They seemed to have a line to the top of that "gaff" too, but it seemed
slack in the drawing. It's sometimes hard to know in artwork how much
artistic license has been used, but this drawing seems rather exacting.
I found the forward and aft steering oars interesting too.
I look forward to your translation.
david beede

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Audemard is pretty technical, though not as technical as G.R.G.
Worcester in his drawings.

The translation is pretty much this: the bay and river sampans
invariably set a single mast in a tabernacle just ahead of the cabin.
The rig is a lateen with a short luff which is laced to the mast. The
sail is made of rice matting, which is very light but fragile.

That's a pretty accurate translation of an unfortunately short
comment...

As far as the details go, it seems to be universal on indochinese boats
to have a vang or two to the peak of the sail. That's what you see
there. We chuld probably think about vangs on our small boats <grin>.

The "spar" may actually be a lashing. The drawing is a little unclear
on that but that's what it looks like to me, a loop with perhaps a
spanish windlass sort of handle (?). Tighten the handle and then twist
it vertical and seize around both ends. This would not be unreasonable
given the material of the sail. You would keep the sail peaked and the
luff tight without putting strain on the sail itself except along the
spars.

Other boats, such as Thai vessels with similar lugs use(d) a roller
reefing scheme where the sail is just rolled up on the boom. So having
a handle to tighten this lashing seems possible to me.

Somewhere a writer on Euro boats has noted that certain French luggers
had a second luffrope to peak the yard without putting the strain on
the sail itself. Similar solution to the same problem?

Craig,
Thanks for that great vietnamese "lateen glug" - I noticed a very
interesting short spar that yokes around the mast and pushes the base of
the peak spar to leeward - effectively pivoting the peak of the sail to
windward - which would tame the exaggerated twist my lug sail seems
prone to.
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/bolger/viet.gif
They seemed to have a line to the top of that "gaff" too, but it seemed
slack in the drawing. It's sometimes hard to know in artwork how much
artistic license has been used, but this drawing seems rather exacting.
I found the forward and aft steering oars interesting too.
I look forward to your translation.
david beede

"C. O'Donnell" wrote:

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> "viet.gif" in the Vault shows an interesting variation on the lugsail
> from Indochina. A gaff lug? A lug gaff? A lateen glug?
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> It comes from Audemard's "Jonques Chinoises" V 10 "Indochine". I will
> make an attempt to translate the description at some point.
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"viet.gif" in the Vault shows an interesting variation on the lugsail
from Indochina. A gaff lug? A lug gaff? A lateen glug?

It comes from Audemard's "Jonques Chinoises" V 10 "Indochine". I will
make an attempt to translate the description at some point.