Re: [bolger] Digest Number 2037
Hey boys and girls...
The Florida Gulf Coast Maritime Museum is sponsoring a messabout Sat June 10th at Emerson Point Park on Snead Island off the Manatee River in Palmetto Florida. Boats to meet at Indian Mound Beach on the Manatee River side of the Indian Mounds near "Palm Avenue" Launching at the boat ramp on the west point of Snead Island or the Marina at the bridge on the east end of Snead Island
Larry (Bradenton)
The Florida Gulf Coast Maritime Museum is sponsoring a messabout Sat June 10th at Emerson Point Park on Snead Island off the Manatee River in Palmetto Florida. Boats to meet at Indian Mound Beach on the Manatee River side of the Indian Mounds near "Palm Avenue" Launching at the boat ramp on the west point of Snead Island or the Marina at the bridge on the east end of Snead Island
Larry (Bradenton)
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Subject: [bolger] Digest Number 2037
There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: blasphemy ......just got off the phone with Bolger and Suzanne
From: "Nels" <arvent@...<mailto:arvent@...>>
2. Re: glass/dynel and epoxy?
From: grant corson <corson@...<mailto:corson@...>>
3. Re: glass/dynel and epoxy?
From: "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@...<mailto:derbyrm@...>>
4. Re: blasphemy ......just got off the phone with Bolger and Suzanne
From: "dbaldnz" <oink@...<mailto:oink@...>>
5. (unknown)
From: "jjoftheusa" <jjoftheusa@...<mailto:jjoftheusa@...>>
6. Pictures of Port Sorell/ Tyson's Boatbuilding /Boat Storage Shed
From: "hhetyson" <hhetyson@...<mailto:hhetyson@...>>
7. Gudgons for Teal
From: "stoo_mcdoo" <stoo_mcdoo@...<mailto:stoo_mcdoo@...>>
8. Gudgons for Teal
From: "stoo_mcdoo" <stoo_mcdoo@...<mailto:stoo_mcdoo@...>>
9. Re: Gudgons for Teal
From: "oarmandt" <oarmanD@...<mailto:oarmanD@...>>
10. Re: Gudgons for Teal
From: "dnjost" <djost@...<mailto:djost@...>>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 16:46:58 -0000
From: "Nels" <arvent@...<mailto:arvent@...>>
Subject: Re: blasphemy ......just got off the phone with Bolger and Suzanne
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h<mailto:jasonstancil@h>...>
wrote:
>> I specifically groaned at the idea of cutting up my transom for
> a "notch", but they said it would stay put as is and the mast
would
> swing out and up to the front and seat flush on the
> transom?......your guess is as good as mine to what that means. So
> much for keeping the weight out of the ends?....how many times
have
> i heard that.
>
Well I don't think you would have to remove the bow transom all the
way down - perhaps just half way. This would allow the base of the
mast to swing through the slot. Then you would have the round
section attach to the forward edge of the mast and overlap the
bottom portion of the bow transon. This could then have the
counterweight on the lower end.
To imagine this round bow section - it would be like a round fence
post sliced vertically, with the flat side attached to the mast.
Then the lower end would be faired into a nice cutwater edge with
some lead inserted. It could then be raised and lowered with one
hand. It could also have a gasket of some kind routed into its aft
edge to cushion and seal it against the bow slot and transom front.
The added weight would be more than compensated for by the foam
under the free-flooding well. and the added wood of the fencepost.
Since MICRO has tremendous load carrying capacity amidships, adding
some weight to the bow does not affect it so long as you add the
same amount to the stern. Both are above the water most of the time
anyway!
You would have to install the boarding step in the topsides and
also deploy the anchor from the side.
I believe your motor will work out well simply running free and
steering with the rudder. It is only an emergency back-up for the
yuloh anyway. You might want a yuloh like Bruce's.
Bruce will also be rolling his eyes about a 24' maxi micro
navigator, because he is a JESSE COOPER fan - as am I. And that is
what you are describing. Just a bit too big to trailer easily. I
loved his rendering of the AS19 Navigator - only with chine runners
instead of leeboards.
The anti kerphlumping bow fairing is going to be nice when motoring
to lessen the wave slap and pounding, since mine is going to be a
LMNMS (LONG MICRO NAVIGATOR MOTOR SAILER:-)
Quite likely one could modify a LM just from the regular MICRO
NAVIGATOR update. The basic hull is the same.
Funny that last year when I enquired PCB&F seemed quite uninterested
in the MICRO's. Perhaps the enthusiasm of Bruce and yourself and
several others has reignited the flame.
Cheers, Nels
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:42:20 -0400
From: grant corson <corson@...<mailto:corson@...>>
Subject: Re: glass/dynel and epoxy?
Roger, I have been thinking about switching from West System to System three
because of the fact that you can still get a chemical bond if you recoat
within 72 hours. How do the two compare? I have only used West System.
Grant
on 6/5/04 11:20 AM, Roger Derby atderbyrm@...<mailto:derbyrm@...> wrote:
> From System Three's "Epoxy Book" (free at
>http://www.systemthree.com/m_register.asp<http://www.systemthree.com/m_register.asp> ) Yes, you do have to register to
> get the book. It's in pdf form.
>
> Fiberglassing
> (sealer, wet-out & fill coats)
> square feet of coverage per gallon
>
> first subsequent
> coat coats
> 4 ounce cloth 150 300
> 6 ounce cloth 130 250
> 10 ounce cloth 100 170
> Biaxial Tape 32 40
>
> So one and one-half gallons should do
> 1.5 x 130 x 250/(250 +260) = 96 sq. ft.
> If you put on three coats.
>
> That's assuming Raka is not too different from System Three in coverage.
>
> Roger
>derbyrm@...<mailto:derbyrm@...>
> derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@...<mailto:jasonstancil@...>>
>
>
>> I just cleaned out and inventoried the basement and realized i used
>> a hair more than a gallon of Raka Resin and a hair more than a half
>> gallon of hardener! laying the 6 oz dynel sheath......Did i use way
>> too much or is that about right? I was kinda worried it was'nt
>> wetting out.....the dynel does'nt go clear like glass so it's tough
>> to tell. Doh! got to order more....again. 6 gallons and counting.
>>
>> Jason
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 16:03:08 -0400
From: "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@...<mailto:derbyrm@...>>
Subject: Re: glass/dynel and epoxy?
I don't really know since I've only used System Three. My bet is that they
are both good. I do like the Gougeon Brothers' book on "Boatbuilding."
When I ordered the System Three "Test Kit," S3 products were slightly
cheaper than West Systems. I was "off-put" by West System's marketing
technique, but I don't remember why.
I like System Three, it works, Kern Hendrix answers questions well -- why
should I change and re-do my learning curve?
Roger
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From: "grant corson" <corson@...<mailto:corson@...>>
> Roger, I have been thinking about switching from West System to System
three
> because of the fact that you can still get a chemical bond if you recoat
> within 72 hours. How do the two compare? I have only used West System.
> Grant
>
> on 6/5/04 11:20 AM, Roger Derby atderbyrm@...<mailto:derbyrm@...> wrote:
>
> > From System Three's "Epoxy Book" (free at
> >http://www.systemthree.com/m_register.asp<http://www.systemthree.com/m_register.asp> ) Yes, you do have to
register to
> > get the book. It's in pdf form.
> >
> > Fiberglassing
> > (sealer, wet-out & fill coats)
> > square feet of coverage per gallon
> >
> > first subsequent
> > coat coats
> > 4 ounce cloth 150 300
> > 6 ounce cloth 130 250
> > 10 ounce cloth 100 170
> > Biaxial Tape 32 40
> >
> > So one and one-half gallons should do
> > 1.5 x 130 x 250/(250 +260) = 96 sq. ft.
> > If you put on three coats.
> >
> > That's assuming Raka is not too different from System Three in coverage.
> >
> > Roger
> >derbyrm@...<mailto:derbyrm@...>
> > derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@...<mailto:jasonstancil@...>>
> >
> >
> >> I just cleaned out and inventoried the basement and realized i used
> >> a hair more than a gallon of Raka Resin and a hair more than a half
> >> gallon of hardener! laying the 6 oz dynel sheath......Did i use way
> >> too much or is that about right? I was kinda worried it was'nt
> >> wetting out.....the dynel does'nt go clear like glass so it's tough
> >> to tell. Doh! got to order more....again. 6 gallons and counting.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
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Fax:
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:49:05 -0000
From: "dbaldnz" <oink@...<mailto:oink@...>>
Subject: Re: blasphemy ......just got off the phone with Bolger and Suzanne
How about a whole round bow with tabernacle part of it as a unit,
counterweight at the bottom, hinged at the top of the existing bow
transom.....rather like the nose of a large freight aircraft? No
slot, nice orca bow.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h<mailto:jasonstancil@h>...>
wrote:
> It would still have an open slot in the stem with
> > the rounded attachment overlapping and held in place by the mast
> > when it is upright. The drawback is that the slot will be open
> when the mast is in the lowered position. (i.e. when motoring or at
> > anchor.)
>
> I specifically groaned at the idea of cutting up my transom for
> a "notch", but they said it would stay put as is and the mast would
> swing out and up to the front and seat flush on the
> transom?......your guess is as good as mine to what that means. So
> much for keeping the weight out of the ends?....how many times have
> i heard that.
>
>
> > The biggest challenge is how to avoid a tangle of lines and sail
> > when the chinese lug sail and mast are lowered. I am sure PCB&F
> are aware of this.
>
> I forgot to ask if the gaff jaws will change. If they can't be
> released or something to pivit 90 degrees without removal that no
> good. There is no where to stow that stuff when on the water.
>
>
> > I am curious about two other items:
> >
> > Did you asked them about how you can control the motor from
inside
> > the cabin and still keep out the fumes?
>
> I did'nt even think about it at the time. I'm kicking around making
> the tiller slot big enough to get my wrist through......put a
little
> lip around it and then sew up rubber boot....kinda like a gear
shift
> knob or spray skirt. I'll put a kill switch in the cabin. For the
> rich famous i bet remote controls are the ticket...for me, well i
> still have to climb on deck to start/lower/raise and do the 180
> degree twist for reverse.
> >
> > What about an anti-kerphlumping bow mod?
>
> I have never been kept all night by a kerphlumping flat bow, so i
> forgot.
>
> I'll ask about this stuff, when they call back next week. I've got
> my note cards ready.
>
> Nels if they're doing this stuff kinda spur of the
moment......maybe
> now is the time to commission the long micro navigator with all the
> bells and whistles you have been thinking about.......you ought to
> just make it a maxi micro 24'x 6' with, 4-5 feet of cockpit aft of
> pilot house, a protected motorwell and room for a tortise on deck :)
>
> is that my dream or yours......just wait till i get a real job, HA
>
> Jason
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:00:32 -0000
From: "jjoftheusa" <jjoftheusa@...<mailto:jjoftheusa@...>>
Subject: (unknown)
I realized that this site is not for transmission modificaiton but
99.99% of all boats do have transmissions.
Recently I was made aware that an old 2-speed power glide could be
turned into a great marine tranny. From what I have been told,
removing the torque converter and reworking the valve body for
shifting using the engine's oil pressure is about the extent of the
modificaitons. Just need details as i have never heard of this
modification before. It seems as if dragsters (land and sea) are
useing powerglide trannies...prices seem to start well in excess of
$1400.... and we all need/like to save money....
Anyone out there know about this, could I talk you into shareing your
info...
Cheers
JJ
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:14:52 -0000
From: "hhetyson" <hhetyson@...<mailto:hhetyson@...>>
Subject: Pictures of Port Sorell/ Tyson's Boatbuilding /Boat Storage Shed
Hello everyone,
I've just posted some photos in Bolger 4 group files of the Port
Sorell(Tasmania, Australia) area where my parents live and where the
Tyson family keeps and builds its various Bolger Boats.Folder is
called "Tyson's New "Temporary Boat shed" or something close to
that.
Of particular note to Pierre-ter Lenihan and Le Mouton Noir de
Kingston is that its now Winter here(Tasmania,Australia), but we
still get some quite nice days without a lot of that soft(sometimes
hard), white, cold stuff that interrupts boatbuilding and boating
activities, though I must say swimming is definately out unless
you've got masochistic tendencies or are just plain clumsy when
boating!!!!
Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:39:09 -0000
From: "stoo_mcdoo" <stoo_mcdoo@...<mailto:stoo_mcdoo@...>>
Subject: Gudgons for Teal
I am looking for gudgeons to fit my twenty year old Teal.
Jamestown Distributers, where I bought the originals, only has
them for a flat transom. Help!
Thanks, Stuart McD
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:46:09 -0000
From: "stoo_mcdoo" <stoo_mcdoo@...<mailto:stoo_mcdoo@...>>
Subject: Gudgons for Teal
I am looking for gudgeons to fit my twenty year old Teal.
Jamestown Distributers, where I bought the originals, only has
them for a flat transom. Help!
Thanks, Stuart McD
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:19:31 -0000
From: "oarmandt" <oarmanD@...<mailto:oarmanD@...>>
Subject: Re: Gudgons for Teal
I bought custom cast bronze pintels and gudgeons for my double-ender
from Lunenburg Foundry in Nova Scotia. www.lunenburgfoundry.com<http://www.lunenburgfoundry.com/>
They were not cheap ($400 Canadian), but I had been frustrated
trying to find another source.
Doug
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>, "stoo_mcdoo" <stoo_mcdoo@y<mailto:stoo_mcdoo@y>...> wrote:
> I am looking for gudgeons to fit my twenty year old Teal.
> Jamestown Distributers, where I bought the originals, only has
> them for a flat transom. Help!
>
Thanks, Stuart McD
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:11:57 -0000
From: "dnjost" <djost@...<mailto:djost@...>>
Subject: Re: Gudgons for Teal
Try a catboat builder such as Marshall Marine in South Dartmouth,
MA. They have gudgeons for their catboats that attach to the keel
and rudder. I think I paid about $60 per set.
David Jost
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