Re: Legality of stealing your boat back
In Massachusetts, we are required to attach two plates that have are
provided by the Environmental police to two locations on the hull.
One location is the upper right transom of your homebuilt boat. The
other location is an obscure location known only to the
builder/owner. This has been in place since the increase of
homeland security.
Speaking of homeland security, I finally got boarded by the USCG.
Please rememember to put your registration on board. It's
embarrasing to have everything absolutely ship shape, and forget the
paperwork. it's hard being a "B" student.
David Jost
provided by the Environmental police to two locations on the hull.
One location is the upper right transom of your homebuilt boat. The
other location is an obscure location known only to the
builder/owner. This has been in place since the increase of
homeland security.
Speaking of homeland security, I finally got boarded by the USCG.
Please rememember to put your registration on board. It's
embarrasing to have everything absolutely ship shape, and forget the
paperwork. it's hard being a "B" student.
David Jost
What a good idea gabriel,
DonB
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@s...>
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> ... or you could use my Dad's method, which is to have a set ofcustom "dog
> tags" made with the boats name, builder, phone, address, and soon, epoxy
> them into a couple of unlikely (and out of sight) places, and TIG(trust in
> God). :) He had an outboard skiff he built back in the early80's stolen,
> and the thief sanded off the U.S. Coast Guard registration numbersand
> re-registered it in his name... Unfortunately for him, Dad hadthe serial
> number of the outboard. He couldn't prove that the boat was his,but the
> outboard was, so the guy got 90 days in jail, had to serve 30 andwas on
> probation for a year... We never did get the boat back, but wegot the
> outboard and built another boat. After that, Dad started addingID to the
> boats that was not obvious and was very difficult to get out ofthe boat
> without destroying the boat.unregistered
>
>
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> From: oceanplodder2003 [mailto:dana-tenacity@u...]
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:18 PM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Legality of stealing your boat back
>
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>
> I've just returned from living in the US (Where's your boat Don,
> Love to see it, I'm in Whangaparaoa) and think I prefer
> NZ, Just couldn't stand those ugly numbers on my pretty boat. I'llsolution
> take my chances with the theives and resort to the "Don "
> where possible.posts
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > Here in California at least, when you register boats,
> > [required for my 15'4" Micro Navigator, not sure for
> > an Elegant Punt] you must engrave, carve, burn,
> > or otherwise permanently inscribe a 'hull number'
> > onto the boat. Makes it harder to steal later, and/or
> > makes the recovery easier.
>
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Hi, welcome back.
My boat is at home in Westmere, Auckland, but I will be putting her
in the water in 2 weeks time, to be moored nearby. Feel free to come
anytime.
Yes, registration is a difficult one. On the one hand proof of
ownership, on the other paying lifetime salaries for yet anothet
tier of fat-assed seat warmers.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "oceanplodder2003" <dana-
tenacity@u...> wrote:
My boat is at home in Westmere, Auckland, but I will be putting her
in the water in 2 weeks time, to be moored nearby. Feel free to come
anytime.
Yes, registration is a difficult one. On the one hand proof of
ownership, on the other paying lifetime salaries for yet anothet
tier of fat-assed seat warmers.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "oceanplodder2003" <dana-
tenacity@u...> wrote:
>unregistered
> I've just returned from living in the US (Where's your boat Don,
> Love to see it, I'm in Whangaparaoa) and think I prefer
> NZ, Just couldn't stand those ugly numbers on my pretty boat. I'llsolution
> take my chances with the theives and resort to the "Don "
> where possible.
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > Here in California at least, when you register boats,
> > [required for my 15'4" Micro Navigator, not sure for
> > an Elegant Punt] you must engrave, carve, burn,
> > or otherwise permanently inscribe a 'hull number'
> > onto the boat. Makes it harder to steal later, and/or
> > makes the recovery easier.
... or you could use my Dad's method, which is to have a set of custom "dog
tags" made with the boats name, builder, phone, address, and so on, epoxy
them into a couple of unlikely (and out of sight) places, and TIG (trust in
God). :) He had an outboard skiff he built back in the early 80's stolen,
and the thief sanded off the U.S. Coast Guard registration numbers and
re-registered it in his name... Unfortunately for him, Dad had the serial
number of the outboard. He couldn't prove that the boat was his, but the
outboard was, so the guy got 90 days in jail, had to serve 30 and was on
probation for a year... We never did get the boat back, but we got the
outboard and built another boat. After that, Dad started adding ID to the
boats that was not obvious and was very difficult to get out of the boat
without destroying the boat.
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From: oceanplodder2003 [mailto:dana-tenacity@...]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:18 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Legality of stealing your boat back
I've just returned from living in the US (Where's your boat Don,
Love to see it, I'm in Whangaparaoa) and think I prefer unregistered
NZ, Just couldn't stand those ugly numbers on my pretty boat. I'll
take my chances with the theives and resort to the "Don " solution
where possible.
tags" made with the boats name, builder, phone, address, and so on, epoxy
them into a couple of unlikely (and out of sight) places, and TIG (trust in
God). :) He had an outboard skiff he built back in the early 80's stolen,
and the thief sanded off the U.S. Coast Guard registration numbers and
re-registered it in his name... Unfortunately for him, Dad had the serial
number of the outboard. He couldn't prove that the boat was his, but the
outboard was, so the guy got 90 days in jail, had to serve 30 and was on
probation for a year... We never did get the boat back, but we got the
outboard and built another boat. After that, Dad started adding ID to the
boats that was not obvious and was very difficult to get out of the boat
without destroying the boat.
_____
From: oceanplodder2003 [mailto:dana-tenacity@...]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:18 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Legality of stealing your boat back
I've just returned from living in the US (Where's your boat Don,
Love to see it, I'm in Whangaparaoa) and think I prefer unregistered
NZ, Just couldn't stand those ugly numbers on my pretty boat. I'll
take my chances with the theives and resort to the "Don " solution
where possible.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> Here in California at least, when you register boats,
> [required for my 15'4" Micro Navigator, not sure for
> an Elegant Punt] you must engrave, carve, burn,
> or otherwise permanently inscribe a 'hull number'
> onto the boat. Makes it harder to steal later, and/or
> makes the recovery easier.
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I've just returned from living in the US (Where's your boat Don,
Love to see it, I'm in Whangaparaoa) and think I prefer unregistered
NZ, Just couldn't stand those ugly numbers on my pretty boat. I'll
take my chances with the theives and resort to the "Don " solution
where possible.
Love to see it, I'm in Whangaparaoa) and think I prefer unregistered
NZ, Just couldn't stand those ugly numbers on my pretty boat. I'll
take my chances with the theives and resort to the "Don " solution
where possible.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> Here in California at least, when you register boats,
> [required for my 15'4" Micro Navigator, not sure for
> an Elegant Punt] you must engrave, carve, burn,
> or otherwise permanently inscribe a 'hull number'
> onto the boat. Makes it harder to steal later, and/or
> makes the recovery easier.
Here in California at least, when you register boats,
[required for my 15'4" Micro Navigator, not sure for
an Elegant Punt] you must engrave, carve, burn,
or otherwise permanently inscribe a 'hull number'
onto the boat. Makes it harder to steal later, and/or
makes the recovery easier.
[required for my 15'4" Micro Navigator, not sure for
an Elegant Punt] you must engrave, carve, burn,
or otherwise permanently inscribe a 'hull number'
onto the boat. Makes it harder to steal later, and/or
makes the recovery easier.
Then there's the question of salvage. If the original thief abandoned it to
drift on to the rocks, the person from whom you reclaimed it may have a very
legitimate claim to at least a part of its value.
Roger (Just playing Devil's Advocate. I think you did right.)
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
drift on to the rocks, the person from whom you reclaimed it may have a very
legitimate claim to at least a part of its value.
Roger (Just playing Devil's Advocate. I think you did right.)
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "dbaldnz" <oink@...>
> Scott Calman's post brought me up short! He said 'regardless of the
> legality'.....and he is probably right, seeing how stuffed our
> perpetrator/victim system works. I suppose you are supposed to get a
> policeman to sort it out, and have to prove the boat belonged to you?
> Now there would be a problem at least here, where there is no boat
> registration....it would be the thiefs word against mine. When I
> think about it, I have no photos even.
<snip>
Scott Calman's post brought me up short! He said 'regardless of the
legality'.....and he is probably right, seeing how stuffed our
perpetrator/victim system works. I suppose you are supposed to get a
policeman to sort it out, and have to prove the boat belonged to you?
Now there would be a problem at least here, where there is no boat
registration....it would be the thiefs word against mine. When I
think about it, I have no photos even. My daughter came home and
asked 'what is that disgusting thing?'.........I reminded her that
under the horrible black camouflage paint is the little red dinghy
she used to play in. She seemed to not believe me, and floored me by
saying...'how do you know it's yours?' I pouted and stuttered,
remembering every piece of the boat I had built and used for 20
years, but to her it was no different from her consumer cellphone.
Would a policeman know any better? 'It's Elegant Punt officer, with
a non-standard skeg, and a.........'COME with ME sonny!"
DonB
legality'.....and he is probably right, seeing how stuffed our
perpetrator/victim system works. I suppose you are supposed to get a
policeman to sort it out, and have to prove the boat belonged to you?
Now there would be a problem at least here, where there is no boat
registration....it would be the thiefs word against mine. When I
think about it, I have no photos even. My daughter came home and
asked 'what is that disgusting thing?'.........I reminded her that
under the horrible black camouflage paint is the little red dinghy
she used to play in. She seemed to not believe me, and floored me by
saying...'how do you know it's yours?' I pouted and stuttered,
remembering every piece of the boat I had built and used for 20
years, but to her it was no different from her consumer cellphone.
Would a policeman know any better? 'It's Elegant Punt officer, with
a non-standard skeg, and a.........'COME with ME sonny!"
DonB