[bolger] Re: Junk Rigged Chebacco

>Craig, I don't think that is a Chebacco, but something called a
>Seabird -- different bottom, rudder, no mizzenmast, different prow,
>etc. Did I miss the Chebacco somewhere? Thought the Chinese junk
>rig spectacular. Must do one for my canoe, I'd love it! Awaiting
>your 2nd or more articles in MAIB!
>Cheers,
>Dick Burnham, owner of Chebacco-in-process

You're right, and I knew that, and was thinking Sea Bird and typing
Chebacco. Sigh.

(Hiya Dick)
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That would explain my question -- I thought Chebacco was supposed to come out about 500 Kg.

Roger
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----- Original Message -----

From: "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@...>


> Craig, I don't think that is a Chebacco, but something called a
> Seabird -- different bottom, rudder, no mizzenmast, different prow,
> etc. Did I miss the Chebacco somewhere? Thought the Chinese junk
> rig spectacular. Must do one for my canoe, I'd love it! Awaiting
> your 2nd or more articles in MAIB!
> Cheers,
> Dick Burnham, owner of Chebacco-in-process
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, craig o'donnell <dadadata@f...> wrote:
> > A report posted originally to the junkrig group:
<snip>
> > >This mast carries bout 25 square meters of sail. Mast is
> > > rumoured toweigh about 40 to 50 kg. Seems no big
> > > deal to me in a 1600 kg boat.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Craig, I don't think that is a Chebacco, but something called a
Seabird -- different bottom, rudder, no mizzenmast, different prow,
etc. Did I miss the Chebacco somewhere? Thought the Chinese junk
rig spectacular. Must do one for my canoe, I'd love it! Awaiting
your 2nd or more articles in MAIB!
Cheers,
Dick Burnham, owner of Chebacco-in-process

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, craig o'donnell <dadadata@f...> wrote:
> A report posted originally to the junkrig group:
>
> At 9:44 AM +0000 6/18/04,junkrig@yahoogroups.comwrote:
> >
> >Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:04:50 -0000
> > From: "antoinem01" <amaartens@a...>
> >Subject: Trip report Blue Air june 10th, 2004
> >
> >Trip report BLUE AIR jun 11th, 2004
> >
> >LS,
> >
> >Last week I visited with Stephan Nohn a board his modified Bolger
> >Seabird 86 in Lemmer, The Netherlands. Stephan invited me throug
email
> >after "meeting" in the junkrig group of Yahoo. I browsed through
his
> >webpages athttp://ca.geocities.com/nohnpages/and was impressed by
> >his ship and the way he adapted Mr.Bolger's ideas to his own
> >requirements.
> >
> >After a fast ride to Lemmer, Stephan met me at the dock. We lost no
> >time and cast off for a trip round the Grote Brekken. The rig is a
> >white tarpaulin, following the Fenix junk rig design. The cloth is
> >strengtened at the top to withstand stronger winds. (have a look at
> >http://www.geocities.com/mattipalm/images/Fenix1.jpgor at
> >http://ca.geocities.com/nohnpages/04-04-03.jpg)The Fenix design is
> >rumoured to make for good windward perfomance while maintaining the
> >junkrig's easy of handling. It does not move to windward like the
> >Finn-dinghies out on the water, but she behaved as my own big
> >lug-rigged Drascrombe Gig does. Not exactly Volvo 60 stuff, but
> >getting their at a leisurely pace. Stephan believes the rig to be a
> >rig for people bound for longer trips but it handled very nicely
while
> >we used it.
> >
> >Blue Air's rig is quite heavy. The sail and battens, yard and boom
> >weigh about 28kg. It hosts fairly slowly but very surely and
steady.
> >The sail has eight lines to control it and the sheets are long.
> >Despite these initial drawbacks, once set the rig handles very
easily
> >on all points of sailing. We made sail quickly, we reefed very
easily
> >and both tacking and gybing were a push at the tiller. The boat was
> >very well balanced and sailed itself with ease. And very pleasing:
no
> >noise of sails flapping (is this english?) about in the wind and no
> >wind whistling through the standing rigging. We were able to almost
> >bring Blue Air to a controlled stall - almost heaving to - a
feature
> >which would allow to prepare and eat descent meals and cat-naps in
> >waters that allow for such activities.
> >
> >Mast step and mast are very rugged indeed. A wooden tabernacle of
6cm
> >"cheeks", 80 cm above deck, oak alround supports a 7,5 metre mast.
> >This mast carries bout 25 square meters of sail. Mast is rumoured
to
> >weigh about 40 to 50 kg. Seems no big deal to me in a 1600 kg boat.
> >
> >We cruised the waters of the Grote Brekken until darkness fell and
we
> >had to head back to Blue Air's berth and further chat about boats
in
> >general and building Blue Air in particular. Seems that designer
Mr.
> >Bolger was not amused hearing that Blue Air would sport a junk rig.
> >
> >I was very impressed with Blue Air and would not think twice to
take
> >her for a longer trip. From my perspective sthe lacked only two
bits
> >kit: skulling gear and drying-out struts. This would very much
> >increase here sailing area in that part of the world. But appart
from
> >this, I felt that she was a joy to sail on and to sit. A trip very
> >much worth taking.
> >
> >Brgds,
> >
> >Antoine
>
> --
> Craig O'Donnell
> Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
> The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
> The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
> Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese
Junks,
> American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
> Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
> _________________________________
>
> -- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
> -- Macintosh kinda guy
> Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
> _________________________________

A report posted originally to the junkrig group:

At 9:44 AM +0000 6/18/04,junkrig@yahoogroups.comwrote:

>
>Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:04:50 -0000
> From: "antoinem01" <amaartens@...>
>Subject: Trip report Blue Air june 10th, 2004
>
>Trip report BLUE AIR jun 11th, 2004
>
>LS,
>
>Last week I visited with Stephan Nohn a board his modified Bolger
>Seabird 86 in Lemmer, The Netherlands. Stephan invited me throug email
>after "meeting" in the junkrig group of Yahoo. I browsed through his
>webpages athttp://ca.geocities.com/nohnpages/and was impressed by
>his ship and the way he adapted Mr.Bolger's ideas to his own
>requirements.
>
>After a fast ride to Lemmer, Stephan met me at the dock. We lost no
>time and cast off for a trip round the Grote Brekken. The rig is a
>white tarpaulin, following the Fenix junk rig design. The cloth is
>strengtened at the top to withstand stronger winds. (have a look at
>http://www.geocities.com/mattipalm/images/Fenix1.jpgor at
>http://ca.geocities.com/nohnpages/04-04-03.jpg)The Fenix design is
>rumoured to make for good windward perfomance while maintaining the
>junkrig's easy of handling. It does not move to windward like the
>Finn-dinghies out on the water, but she behaved as my own big
>lug-rigged Drascrombe Gig does. Not exactly Volvo 60 stuff, but
>getting their at a leisurely pace. Stephan believes the rig to be a
>rig for people bound for longer trips but it handled very nicely while
>we used it.
>
>Blue Air's rig is quite heavy. The sail and battens, yard and boom
>weigh about 28kg. It hosts fairly slowly but very surely and steady.
>The sail has eight lines to control it and the sheets are long.
>Despite these initial drawbacks, once set the rig handles very easily
>on all points of sailing. We made sail quickly, we reefed very easily
>and both tacking and gybing were a push at the tiller. The boat was
>very well balanced and sailed itself with ease. And very pleasing: no
>noise of sails flapping (is this english?) about in the wind and no
>wind whistling through the standing rigging. We were able to almost
>bring Blue Air to a controlled stall - almost heaving to - a feature
>which would allow to prepare and eat descent meals and cat-naps in
>waters that allow for such activities.
>
>Mast step and mast are very rugged indeed. A wooden tabernacle of 6cm
>"cheeks", 80 cm above deck, oak alround supports a 7,5 metre mast.
>This mast carries bout 25 square meters of sail. Mast is rumoured to
>weigh about 40 to 50 kg. Seems no big deal to me in a 1600 kg boat.
>
>We cruised the waters of the Grote Brekken until darkness fell and we
>had to head back to Blue Air's berth and further chat about boats in
>general and building Blue Air in particular. Seems that designer Mr.
>Bolger was not amused hearing that Blue Air would sport a junk rig.
>
>I was very impressed with Blue Air and would not think twice to take
>her for a longer trip. From my perspective sthe lacked only two bits
>kit: skulling gear and drying-out struts. This would very much
>increase here sailing area in that part of the world. But appart from
>this, I felt that she was a joy to sail on and to sit. A trip very
>much worth taking.
>
>Brgds,
>
>Antoine

--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________

-- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
_________________________________