Re: [bolger] Re: Kind of off-topic....
On Thursday 24 June 2004 10:45 am, sacalman wrote:
from my home. Here is the story. It might be instructive for
others with the same problem.
The most difficult problem in building this banka so far has been
finding a place to do it. I recently was forced to move from
a place the I had rented for a decade (gentrification). I lost
the best little backyard this side of Tijuana, a city free from
the control and code mentality of San Diego. I had no place to
move the boat or my accumulated collection of recycled
building materials (Read trash to the rest of the world).
What a hassle! I took my model boat tucked under my
arm and walked up to over twenty different houses here
in City Heights. I had cruised the alleys and determined
that these house had backyards suitable for my project.
I would say, "Hi, I'm Bob. I live in the neighborhood.
This is a model of a boat I am building. The real boat
is about sixteen feet long. I have it half finished. I
had to move and my new place is too small to work
on the boat. Could I use your backyard to finish the
boat?"
Sometimes if they looked questioning I would pause
in my spiel. Finally after 20-25 rejections a fellow
just looked straight at me and said, "Yes." I nearly
fell over. He elaborated, "I am not using it for
anything so you can. Pick up the key to the gate
Monday after 5:00." The yard is fifty foot on a side
fenced all around with a locked gate that is big
enough to drive through opening on the alley.
Perfect!!!!!
That was it. A decisive guy of few words. So I moved the
boat and all kinds of other recycled wood over there
last Tuesday. Made a copy of the key and gave him his
key back. Again he spoke about 3 words. I like this
guy and hope to get to know him better.
Yesterday he introduced me to his dogs. They still bark
whenever I show up ...
As luck would have it there is an apartment next door. The
second floor balcony overlooks the backyard where I am
working so I am a strange sort of theatrical performance
for these folks. One guy has already told me that "I won't
throw my bottles at you." Did I mention that I cleaned up
the yard and threw a bunch of vodka bottles into the trash :)
So it goes,
Bob La Quey
> Hi Bob,I missed Scott's reply, but found a place to build three blocks
>
> Where are you in sn Diego? I am in the Lakeside area. I might be able
> to help you with some space if your other plan does not work out. How
> big is this banca and the space you need?
>
> Scott Calman
from my home. Here is the story. It might be instructive for
others with the same problem.
The most difficult problem in building this banka so far has been
finding a place to do it. I recently was forced to move from
a place the I had rented for a decade (gentrification). I lost
the best little backyard this side of Tijuana, a city free from
the control and code mentality of San Diego. I had no place to
move the boat or my accumulated collection of recycled
building materials (Read trash to the rest of the world).
What a hassle! I took my model boat tucked under my
arm and walked up to over twenty different houses here
in City Heights. I had cruised the alleys and determined
that these house had backyards suitable for my project.
I would say, "Hi, I'm Bob. I live in the neighborhood.
This is a model of a boat I am building. The real boat
is about sixteen feet long. I have it half finished. I
had to move and my new place is too small to work
on the boat. Could I use your backyard to finish the
boat?"
Sometimes if they looked questioning I would pause
in my spiel. Finally after 20-25 rejections a fellow
just looked straight at me and said, "Yes." I nearly
fell over. He elaborated, "I am not using it for
anything so you can. Pick up the key to the gate
Monday after 5:00." The yard is fifty foot on a side
fenced all around with a locked gate that is big
enough to drive through opening on the alley.
Perfect!!!!!
That was it. A decisive guy of few words. So I moved the
boat and all kinds of other recycled wood over there
last Tuesday. Made a copy of the key and gave him his
key back. Again he spoke about 3 words. I like this
guy and hope to get to know him better.
Yesterday he introduced me to his dogs. They still bark
whenever I show up ...
As luck would have it there is an apartment next door. The
second floor balcony overlooks the backyard where I am
working so I am a strange sort of theatrical performance
for these folks. One guy has already told me that "I won't
throw my bottles at you." Did I mention that I cleaned up
the yard and threw a bunch of vodka bottles into the trash :)
So it goes,
Bob La Quey
>it's a little more challenging that a slooop. I never found the sternA boom that runs out past the stern is also much prettier and
>overhang of the boom to be a problem with my Cynthia J., though I
romantic than one that stops before the end of the boat.
-D
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> The sideBolger has drawn plans for a conventional catboat treatment of the
> decks don't appear high enough to sit under...
same hull, like a larger Tinycat (Bobcat, whatever....). I admire
ingenuity of the original beachcruiser layout, and if I was going to
choose this boat for a long trip that's the way I would go. But from
John's pictures, it clearly does not work as a daysailer for a group.
I would stick with the cat rig myself. It's been popular for a long
time for good reasons. It makes an interesting boat to sail since
it's a little more challenging that a slooop. I never found the stern
overhang of the boom to be a problem with my Cynthia J., though I
didn't use a boat cover. It only take a bit of planning to be able to
reef easily since the reefing clew cringle is reachable. The hull is
a little short and fat for a two mast rig. IMHO.
Peter
Dan-
Sounds like you have a plan. You should contact PCB and friends to
see what they have to say about shortning the boom and sticking a
mizzen on it.
Jim Michalak has written a good essay on tinkering with rigs:
http://homepages.apci.net/~michalak/#Contents
As far as the keel goes i don't think it will be enough to get in
the way of the shallows........then again this is coming from a guy
threatening to put leeboards and internal ballast on my micro so i
can launch at my local ramp......about a foot deep in the slough
before hitting the channel.
That keel looks to be the same as on the chebacco motor
sailer.....may be able to revert back to the board realitively
easily?
Sounds like you have a plan. You should contact PCB and friends to
see what they have to say about shortning the boom and sticking a
mizzen on it.
Jim Michalak has written a good essay on tinkering with rigs:
http://homepages.apci.net/~michalak/#Contents
As far as the keel goes i don't think it will be enough to get in
the way of the shallows........then again this is coming from a guy
threatening to put leeboards and internal ballast on my micro so i
can launch at my local ramp......about a foot deep in the slough
before hitting the channel.
That keel looks to be the same as on the chebacco motor
sailer.....may be able to revert back to the board realitively
easily?
>in the
> That might well be a good starting point. I must admit I'd got it
> back of my mind, but couldn't quite remember the name of thedesign. I
> knew there was something mid-way between Bobcat and Chebacco,which is
> basically what I'm looking for.side
>
> I read John Tuma's comments, and having looked at the pictures I'm
> inclined to go along with most of the changes he suggests. The
> decks don't appear high enough to sit under, so making themnarrower
> will tend to result in crew weight getting further out to thesides,
> which is good for stability. I'm not keen on the idea of addingballast,
> might a centreboard similar to Chebacco's be an alternative toimprove
> upwind performance? Would it be worth the hassle ofbuilding/maintaining it?
>the end
> The rig is also a little off-putting. I'm wary of any boat where
> of the boom extends over the stern, as that almost invariablymeans that
> at some point I'll end up having to try and reach the end of theboom,
> with consequent risk of going overboard (something I've never doneyet,
> and have no wish to experience).down
>
> It would seem possible to replace the gaff cat rig with a scaled
> Chebacco rig, or even the balanced lug cat yawl rig from NordKoster (or
> something similar), which would obviate the necessity of buildinga
> gaff. The arrangement of the stern in Catfish looks fairly similarto
> Chebacco, so I would speculate that one could pretty much copy thehas a
> mizzen mast step and other details.
>
> This looks like a promising line of thought. Catfish beach cruiser
> hull that fits all of my requirements, I'd just need to work outwhat to
> do about the rig. Given what I've been contemplating doing to thedesign
> of JBC, the Catfish looks like a much better point from which tostart.
>days, I
> Many thanks to all who've contributed over the past couple of
> think I'm now getting closer to working out what I want to do.
>
> Dan
Jason Stancil wrote:
back of my mind, but couldn't quite remember the name of the design. I
knew there was something mid-way between Bobcat and Chebacco, which is
basically what I'm looking for.
I read John Tuma's comments, and having looked at the pictures I'm
inclined to go along with most of the changes he suggests. The side
decks don't appear high enough to sit under, so making them narrower
will tend to result in crew weight getting further out to the sides,
which is good for stability. I'm not keen on the idea of adding ballast,
might a centreboard similar to Chebacco's be an alternative to improve
upwind performance? Would it be worth the hassle of building/maintaining it?
The rig is also a little off-putting. I'm wary of any boat where the end
of the boom extends over the stern, as that almost invariably means that
at some point I'll end up having to try and reach the end of the boom,
with consequent risk of going overboard (something I've never done yet,
and have no wish to experience).
It would seem possible to replace the gaff cat rig with a scaled down
Chebacco rig, or even the balanced lug cat yawl rig from Nord Koster (or
something similar), which would obviate the necessity of building a
gaff. The arrangement of the stern in Catfish looks fairly similar to
Chebacco, so I would speculate that one could pretty much copy the
mizzen mast step and other details.
This looks like a promising line of thought. Catfish beach cruiser has a
hull that fits all of my requirements, I'd just need to work out what to
do about the rig. Given what I've been contemplating doing to the design
of JBC, the Catfish looks like a much better point from which to start.
Many thanks to all who've contributed over the past couple of days, I
think I'm now getting closer to working out what I want to do.
Dan
> How about bolger's catfish?......it's a 15 footer somwhere betweenThat might well be a good starting point. I must admit I'd got it in the
> the bobcat and chebacco......some photo's in the files section on
> this group.
back of my mind, but couldn't quite remember the name of the design. I
knew there was something mid-way between Bobcat and Chebacco, which is
basically what I'm looking for.
I read John Tuma's comments, and having looked at the pictures I'm
inclined to go along with most of the changes he suggests. The side
decks don't appear high enough to sit under, so making them narrower
will tend to result in crew weight getting further out to the sides,
which is good for stability. I'm not keen on the idea of adding ballast,
might a centreboard similar to Chebacco's be an alternative to improve
upwind performance? Would it be worth the hassle of building/maintaining it?
The rig is also a little off-putting. I'm wary of any boat where the end
of the boom extends over the stern, as that almost invariably means that
at some point I'll end up having to try and reach the end of the boom,
with consequent risk of going overboard (something I've never done yet,
and have no wish to experience).
It would seem possible to replace the gaff cat rig with a scaled down
Chebacco rig, or even the balanced lug cat yawl rig from Nord Koster (or
something similar), which would obviate the necessity of building a
gaff. The arrangement of the stern in Catfish looks fairly similar to
Chebacco, so I would speculate that one could pretty much copy the
mizzen mast step and other details.
This looks like a promising line of thought. Catfish beach cruiser has a
hull that fits all of my requirements, I'd just need to work out what to
do about the rig. Given what I've been contemplating doing to the design
of JBC, the Catfish looks like a much better point from which to start.
Many thanks to all who've contributed over the past couple of days, I
think I'm now getting closer to working out what I want to do.
Dan
How about bolger's catfish?......it's a 15 footer somwhere between
the bobcat and chebacco......some photo's in the files section on
this group.
jason
the bobcat and chebacco......some photo's in the files section on
this group.
jason
pvanderwaart wrote:
strong that it makes very little difference what boat you're sailing,
you only ever go near the islands when wind and tide are favourable, as
to do otherwise is to invite disaster.
The reason I thought it might be suitable is that if really bad weather
were to develop whilst you're out at sea in these areas, then having a
boat that you can point towards open water, shorten sail to virtually
nothing, and then go below with the helm lashed to wait out the storm is
often the safest position to be in. I've no doubt that it would be
exceptionally unpleasant to be inside a small boat in this situation,
but it's definitely better than being dashed upon the rocks trying to
enter a harbour in unsuitable conditions.
There's some good descriptions of heavy weather sailing in these areas
in Tim Severin's 'The Voyage of the Brendan', made all the more
exceptional because they were in a 30 foot open leather boat, rigged
with two square sails, no keel to speak of, and steered by an oar.
Dan
>>If I could afford her I'd be interested, as sheFrom what I've read of conditions in these areas, the currents are so
>>sounds perfect for a cruise up to the Shetlands, Orkneys,
>>and Faroes,
>>and possibly beyond.
>
>
> Of course, I've never sailed these areas, but if I was planning a
> cruise in an area with strong currents, I would want a faster boat.
> Maybe I'm especially sensitive on the question this morning since I
> spent a couple of hours last night racing up-current in a flukey
> breeze (and getting nowhere for a good part of the time).
strong that it makes very little difference what boat you're sailing,
you only ever go near the islands when wind and tide are favourable, as
to do otherwise is to invite disaster.
The reason I thought it might be suitable is that if really bad weather
were to develop whilst you're out at sea in these areas, then having a
boat that you can point towards open water, shorten sail to virtually
nothing, and then go below with the helm lashed to wait out the storm is
often the safest position to be in. I've no doubt that it would be
exceptionally unpleasant to be inside a small boat in this situation,
but it's definitely better than being dashed upon the rocks trying to
enter a harbour in unsuitable conditions.
There's some good descriptions of heavy weather sailing in these areas
in Tim Severin's 'The Voyage of the Brendan', made all the more
exceptional because they were in a 30 foot open leather boat, rigged
with two square sails, no keel to speak of, and steered by an oar.
Dan
> If I could afford her I'd be interested, as sheOf course, I've never sailed these areas, but if I was planning a
> sounds perfect for a cruise up to the Shetlands, Orkneys,
> and Faroes,
> and possibly beyond.
cruise in an area with strong currents, I would want a faster boat.
Maybe I'm especially sensitive on the question this morning since I
spent a couple of hours last night racing up-current in a flukey
breeze (and getting nowhere for a good part of the time).
The original design without a cockpit footwell had the crew sitting
on flat deck with a small coaming, rather out in the open and
unprotected. I guess the effect would be similar to sailing Micro
with the 'cockpit hatch' in place. In contrast, PCB has moved to
more protection for the crew as the years have gone by, witness
Birdwatcher and Jochems.
I have not it looked up in Small Boats, but IIRC, PCB compares Lynx
to the Quickstep yawl, noting the latter is faster. The cockpit in
Quickstep always looked pretty awful to me, but a lot of PCB's ideas
are better in practice than they look to me.
Peter
Dan, I am not planning on building the Japanese Beach Cruiser -- it
is just one of Bolger's designs that I happen to like a lot and would
love to get a look at one and hear a report of how she sails. I'm in
the process of lofting Spartina -- Bolger's 15'4x7 ft clinker
catboat. The more I consider her lines, the more I fall in love with
her. Jeez! I've gotta get out more often!
Dennis
is just one of Bolger's designs that I happen to like a lot and would
love to get a look at one and hear a report of how she sails. I'm in
the process of lofting Spartina -- Bolger's 15'4x7 ft clinker
catboat. The more I consider her lines, the more I fall in love with
her. Jeez! I've gotta get out more often!
Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Dan Burrill <dan@b...> wrote:
> Dennis wrote:
> > Dan, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the Japanese
Beach
> > Cruiser. Have you seen her sail? Do you know the owners? Do you
have
> > pics? Any information that you could give would be appreciated.
> > Thanks, Dennis
> >
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a lot to go on. I saw it listed for sale
on a
> web site about a year ago, with some brief notes and no picture. If
I
> hadn't already been vaguely familiar with the design and primed to
> investigate any mention of the word 'Bolger' in connection with
boats,
> then I'd probably have missed it completely.
>
> Are you considering building one?
>
> I'd been set on building a Chebacco 20 for a while now, and will
soon
> have just about enough room. (When I say 'just about', I've been
> considering a way of making the strongback so I can slide it from
side
> to side to work on different sides of the boat, so it's tight).
However,
> this is going to be the first time I've built a boat, and I'm
conscious
> of not biting off more than I can chew. Realising that cost and
building
> time increase roughly in proportion to the cube of length, whilst
the
> amount a boat gets used tends to be larger the smaller the boat,
I've
> been looking at a few other options, including a few other
designers,
> but I'm now almost settled on the Japanese Beach Cruiser,
especially
> since I remembered the one I'd seen for sale, which had been used
on
> similar waters to the ones I'm planning on sailing.
>
> The Japanese Beach Cruiser looks like quite an attractive design
(I've
> also thought about Old Shoe, but I've been told by she who must be
> obeyed that I've only got permission to build a 'pretty' boat, and
Old
> Shoe doesn't qualify. Casting lead is also out.) I'm not convinced
by
> the spritsail rig, mainly because I've never seen one in use, and
it's
> very different to anything I've sailed before.
>
> I'm contemplating a balanced lug mainsail, but that's going to
involve
> moving the main mast a fair distance back, so it's something I need
to
> have decided and worked out before I start building the hull. I was
> sailing on the Norfolk Broads a couple of weeks ago and saw two
> wonderful 1930's Mahogany halfdeckers with balanced lug rigs. Their
> spars were made from bamboo approx. 75-100mm (3-4 inch) diameter.
If I
> can find a supplier, that might be a very easy way to get strong
hollow
> spars, though I noticed that these halfdeckers still used a wooden
mast.
> N.B. I'm still planning on keeping the mizzen and the yawl rig,
just
> changing the mainsail so I don't have to worry about positioning
the
> mainsheet and hopefully to improve performance close-hauled and
reefed.
>
> Of course, messing around with the sail plan means I might also
have to
> alter the leeboards, but I'm going to try and deviate from the
original
> plans as little as possible when making my modifications, to reduce
the
> potential for me to muck things up. The leeboards were a big plus
point
> for me, a lot of my potential cruising grounds are sand flats with
maybe
> a foot or two of water. The large end plate on the rudder also
looked
> very attractive, I can't understand why it hasn't been more widely
> adopted by other designers.
>
> Other ideas I've considered are a 10% enlargement of the hull (I'm
a
> fairly big bloke and need all the space I can get), and an increase
in
> the size of the dry stowage compartments. Final decisions on these
will
> definitely have to wait until I've bought my plans and can consult
with PCB.
>
> I'm planning to use her for dinghy cruising with two people, and
> daysailing with up to four in good weather. Mostly off the
> Northumberland coast (The ambition is to make it to the Farne
Islands at
> least once, and preferably back as well), but she's small enough
that we
> should be able to trailer her easily to other cruising grounds
(mostly
> lakes and inland waterways, but I have considered the possibility
of
> getting the ferry to Norway or Denmark for a change of scenery).
>
> Anyway, there's my thoughts on the design, anyone else got anything
to add?
>
> Dan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <ktsrfer@m...> wrote:
Boler and Susan told me they'd have it ready in two weeks. I think
today marks two weeks and i haven't heard anything. I'll drop them a
line next week and find out what's going on. I'll let folks know
when i get my blue tube, i'll also ask if he minds if i post some
scans here.
Jason
> Being a micro owner, I am curious as to when the upgrade sheet mybe
> avaliable?Todd-
Boler and Susan told me they'd have it ready in two weeks. I think
today marks two weeks and i haven't heard anything. I'll drop them a
line next week and find out what's going on. I'll let folks know
when i get my blue tube, i'll also ask if he minds if i post some
scans here.
Jason
John B. Trussell wrote:
to trailer sail with that heavy keel, but it sounds like she's a
seaworthy little boat. If I could afford her I'd be interested, as she
sounds perfect for a cruise up to the Shetlands, Orkneys, and Faroes,
and possibly beyond.
I think somebody's going to pick up a real bargain on this one, I can't
see anything else for sale in that price range that even begins to compare.
Dan
> Dan--The plans for Lynx were included in Bolger's first book. Small Boats. Its dimensions are 14'8''x6'11"x3'0". I would describe the hull as round bottomed with fairly firm bilges and a keel which drops in a straight line from about 6 'aft of the bow to the transom. The drop is about 2' and the keel is triangular in shape. The keel includes a 700lb casting. The boat has a flush deck forward and the deck in the cockpit is about a foot lower. The area beneath the deck is the cabin.Thanks, that's interesting to know. I'd guess she'd be somewhat awkward
>
> Bolger says:
> She proved close winded, went where she looked, balanced well heeled and upright, maneuvered neatly, and shouldered her way through a turmoil of motor boat wakes in light air without pitching twice in the same hole.She is remarkably dry in a chop, and will hold her course with the tiller lashed on a wide range of points....She is the type that can take care of her crew, rather than continually drawing on them for her own safety.She's a well corked bottle and it is not easy to imagine conditions that would put her down. Compared to Sopranino, to say nothing about Tinkerbell, she'a a powerful roomy vessel able to go anywhere.
>
> My observation is that a short, heavy boat is likely to be slower, but have a more comfortable motion than a longer, lighter boat.
to trailer sail with that heavy keel, but it sounds like she's a
seaworthy little boat. If I could afford her I'd be interested, as she
sounds perfect for a cruise up to the Shetlands, Orkneys, and Faroes,
and possibly beyond.
I think somebody's going to pick up a real bargain on this one, I can't
see anything else for sale in that price range that even begins to compare.
Dan
Dennis wrote:
web site about a year ago, with some brief notes and no picture. If I
hadn't already been vaguely familiar with the design and primed to
investigate any mention of the word 'Bolger' in connection with boats,
then I'd probably have missed it completely.
Are you considering building one?
I'd been set on building a Chebacco 20 for a while now, and will soon
have just about enough room. (When I say 'just about', I've been
considering a way of making the strongback so I can slide it from side
to side to work on different sides of the boat, so it's tight). However,
this is going to be the first time I've built a boat, and I'm conscious
of not biting off more than I can chew. Realising that cost and building
time increase roughly in proportion to the cube of length, whilst the
amount a boat gets used tends to be larger the smaller the boat, I've
been looking at a few other options, including a few other designers,
but I'm now almost settled on the Japanese Beach Cruiser, especially
since I remembered the one I'd seen for sale, which had been used on
similar waters to the ones I'm planning on sailing.
The Japanese Beach Cruiser looks like quite an attractive design (I've
also thought about Old Shoe, but I've been told by she who must be
obeyed that I've only got permission to build a 'pretty' boat, and Old
Shoe doesn't qualify. Casting lead is also out.) I'm not convinced by
the spritsail rig, mainly because I've never seen one in use, and it's
very different to anything I've sailed before.
I'm contemplating a balanced lug mainsail, but that's going to involve
moving the main mast a fair distance back, so it's something I need to
have decided and worked out before I start building the hull. I was
sailing on the Norfolk Broads a couple of weeks ago and saw two
wonderful 1930's Mahogany halfdeckers with balanced lug rigs. Their
spars were made from bamboo approx. 75-100mm (3-4 inch) diameter. If I
can find a supplier, that might be a very easy way to get strong hollow
spars, though I noticed that these halfdeckers still used a wooden mast.
N.B. I'm still planning on keeping the mizzen and the yawl rig, just
changing the mainsail so I don't have to worry about positioning the
mainsheet and hopefully to improve performance close-hauled and reefed.
Of course, messing around with the sail plan means I might also have to
alter the leeboards, but I'm going to try and deviate from the original
plans as little as possible when making my modifications, to reduce the
potential for me to muck things up. The leeboards were a big plus point
for me, a lot of my potential cruising grounds are sand flats with maybe
a foot or two of water. The large end plate on the rudder also looked
very attractive, I can't understand why it hasn't been more widely
adopted by other designers.
Other ideas I've considered are a 10% enlargement of the hull (I'm a
fairly big bloke and need all the space I can get), and an increase in
the size of the dry stowage compartments. Final decisions on these will
definitely have to wait until I've bought my plans and can consult with PCB.
I'm planning to use her for dinghy cruising with two people, and
daysailing with up to four in good weather. Mostly off the
Northumberland coast (The ambition is to make it to the Farne Islands at
least once, and preferably back as well), but she's small enough that we
should be able to trailer her easily to other cruising grounds (mostly
lakes and inland waterways, but I have considered the possibility of
getting the ferry to Norway or Denmark for a change of scenery).
Anyway, there's my thoughts on the design, anyone else got anything to add?
Dan
> Dan, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the Japanese BeachUnfortunately I don't have a lot to go on. I saw it listed for sale on a
> Cruiser. Have you seen her sail? Do you know the owners? Do you have
> pics? Any information that you could give would be appreciated.
> Thanks, Dennis
>
web site about a year ago, with some brief notes and no picture. If I
hadn't already been vaguely familiar with the design and primed to
investigate any mention of the word 'Bolger' in connection with boats,
then I'd probably have missed it completely.
Are you considering building one?
I'd been set on building a Chebacco 20 for a while now, and will soon
have just about enough room. (When I say 'just about', I've been
considering a way of making the strongback so I can slide it from side
to side to work on different sides of the boat, so it's tight). However,
this is going to be the first time I've built a boat, and I'm conscious
of not biting off more than I can chew. Realising that cost and building
time increase roughly in proportion to the cube of length, whilst the
amount a boat gets used tends to be larger the smaller the boat, I've
been looking at a few other options, including a few other designers,
but I'm now almost settled on the Japanese Beach Cruiser, especially
since I remembered the one I'd seen for sale, which had been used on
similar waters to the ones I'm planning on sailing.
The Japanese Beach Cruiser looks like quite an attractive design (I've
also thought about Old Shoe, but I've been told by she who must be
obeyed that I've only got permission to build a 'pretty' boat, and Old
Shoe doesn't qualify. Casting lead is also out.) I'm not convinced by
the spritsail rig, mainly because I've never seen one in use, and it's
very different to anything I've sailed before.
I'm contemplating a balanced lug mainsail, but that's going to involve
moving the main mast a fair distance back, so it's something I need to
have decided and worked out before I start building the hull. I was
sailing on the Norfolk Broads a couple of weeks ago and saw two
wonderful 1930's Mahogany halfdeckers with balanced lug rigs. Their
spars were made from bamboo approx. 75-100mm (3-4 inch) diameter. If I
can find a supplier, that might be a very easy way to get strong hollow
spars, though I noticed that these halfdeckers still used a wooden mast.
N.B. I'm still planning on keeping the mizzen and the yawl rig, just
changing the mainsail so I don't have to worry about positioning the
mainsheet and hopefully to improve performance close-hauled and reefed.
Of course, messing around with the sail plan means I might also have to
alter the leeboards, but I'm going to try and deviate from the original
plans as little as possible when making my modifications, to reduce the
potential for me to muck things up. The leeboards were a big plus point
for me, a lot of my potential cruising grounds are sand flats with maybe
a foot or two of water. The large end plate on the rudder also looked
very attractive, I can't understand why it hasn't been more widely
adopted by other designers.
Other ideas I've considered are a 10% enlargement of the hull (I'm a
fairly big bloke and need all the space I can get), and an increase in
the size of the dry stowage compartments. Final decisions on these will
definitely have to wait until I've bought my plans and can consult with PCB.
I'm planning to use her for dinghy cruising with two people, and
daysailing with up to four in good weather. Mostly off the
Northumberland coast (The ambition is to make it to the Farne Islands at
least once, and preferably back as well), but she's small enough that we
should be able to trailer her easily to other cruising grounds (mostly
lakes and inland waterways, but I have considered the possibility of
getting the ferry to Norway or Denmark for a change of scenery).
Anyway, there's my thoughts on the design, anyone else got anything to add?
Dan
Being a micro owner, I am curious as to when the upgrade sheet my be
avaliable?
Todd
avaliable?
Todd
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
With the upcoming Micro upgrade fresh in
> his mind, he might fancy adding that information to the
> new sheet(s). [That might delay I60 progress though. <g>]
>
Dan--The plans for Lynx were included in Bolger's first book. Small Boats. Its dimensions are 14'8''x6'11"x3'0". I would describe the hull as round bottomed with fairly firm bilges and a keel which drops in a straight line from about 6 'aft of the bow to the transom. The drop is about 2' and the keel is triangular in shape. The keel includes a 700lb casting. The boat has a flush deck forward and the deck in the cockpit is about a foot lower. The area beneath the deck is the cabin.
Bolger says:
She proved close winded, went where she looked, balanced well heeled and upright, maneuvered neatly, and shouldered her way through a turmoil of motor boat wakes in light air without pitching twice in the same hole.She is remarkably dry in a chop, and will hold her course with the tiller lashed on a wide range of points....She is the type that can take care of her crew, rather than continually drawing on them for her own safety.She's a well corked bottle and it is not easy to imagine conditions that would put her down. Compared to Sopranino, to say nothing about Tinkerbell, she'a a powerful roomy vessel able to go anywhere.
My observation is that a short, heavy boat is likely to be slower, but have a more comfortable motion than a longer, lighter boat.
John T
Bolger says:
She proved close winded, went where she looked, balanced well heeled and upright, maneuvered neatly, and shouldered her way through a turmoil of motor boat wakes in light air without pitching twice in the same hole.She is remarkably dry in a chop, and will hold her course with the tiller lashed on a wide range of points....She is the type that can take care of her crew, rather than continually drawing on them for her own safety.She's a well corked bottle and it is not easy to imagine conditions that would put her down. Compared to Sopranino, to say nothing about Tinkerbell, she'a a powerful roomy vessel able to go anywhere.
My observation is that a short, heavy boat is likely to be slower, but have a more comfortable motion than a longer, lighter boat.
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Burrill
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Lynx for sale in UK & Bolger boats in the UK in general
pvanderwaart wrote:
>>I'm
>>wondering how Lynx would compare to the Chebacco boats?
>
>
> Lynx is much shorter (15' vs 20')
I should know better than to trust a yacht broker, they give the figure
of 18' 6", which I guess includes the bowsprit, and is much closer to
the 19' 8" given in BWAOM for the Chebacco, which of course does not
have a bowsprit (one of the reasons why I like the design so much).
, and ballasted with a fixed keel.
Some of the Chebacco boats have a fixed keel and lead ballast, not
having seen a picture of Lynx below the waterline, I don't know how
similar it is. I'd guess that given that it was originally designed for
traditional construction methods it doesn't have a free-flooding box keel.
> The original design did not have real cockpit, so the entire volume
> was useable interior. Construction was conventional, caulked carvel.
So this is a modified Lynx, in more than just an alternate construction
method. Any idea if the modifications are PCB designed or approved? Is
it a design that he recommends to people these days or has it been
superceded? As far as the group's aware, have many been built?
I must admit the example that's currently for sale is very pretty,
though I don't have £4,500 to spare and the rig isn't exactly to my
taste. It's also the wrong side of the country for me, though at least
it's at the right end (I'm currently based in Newcastle Upon Tyne, but
moving to South Shields in the near future, to a house with a yard
suitable for boatbuilding).
She's only the second Bolger boat I've seen for sale in the UK, which
would suggest that either not many have been built this side of the
pond, or that they don't change hands very often. I know of four that
have been built here (this one, Bill Samson's Chebacco, a Birdwatcher in
Scotland, and a Japanese Beach Cruiser built and sailed on Humberside,
down the coast from me). I realise at this point I'm likely to provoke a
flurry of outraged emails from fellow UK-based list members who know of
more, but that's really the point, as I'm curious as to what's out there.
I'm hopefully going to be adding a boat to that list in the none too
distant future. I'm not certain which design yet, though almost
certainly a Bolger. Those ruminations are for another email, I think.
Dan
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Dan, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the Japanese Beach
Cruiser. Have you seen her sail? Do you know the owners? Do you have
pics? Any information that you could give would be appreciated.
Thanks, Dennis
Cruiser. Have you seen her sail? Do you know the owners? Do you have
pics? Any information that you could give would be appreciated.
Thanks, Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Dan Burrill <dan@b...> wrote:
> pvanderwaart wrote:
>
> >>I'm
> >>wondering how Lynx would compare to the Chebacco boats?
> >
> >
> > Lynx is much shorter (15' vs 20')
>
> I should know better than to trust a yacht broker, they give the
figure
> of 18' 6", which I guess includes the bowsprit, and is much closer
to
> the 19' 8" given in BWAOM for the Chebacco, which of course does
not
> have a bowsprit (one of the reasons why I like the design so much).
>
> , and ballasted with a fixed keel.
>
> Some of the Chebacco boats have a fixed keel and lead ballast, not
> having seen a picture of Lynx below the waterline, I don't know how
> similar it is. I'd guess that given that it was originally designed
for
> traditional construction methods it doesn't have a free-flooding
box keel.
>
> > The original design did not have real cockpit, so the entire
volume
> > was useable interior. Construction was conventional, caulked
carvel.
>
> So this is a modified Lynx, in more than just an alternate
construction
> method. Any idea if the modifications are PCB designed or approved?
Is
> it a design that he recommends to people these days or has it been
> superceded? As far as the group's aware, have many been built?
>
> I must admit the example that's currently for sale is very pretty,
> though I don't have £4,500 to spare and the rig isn't exactly to my
> taste. It's also the wrong side of the country for me, though at
least
> it's at the right end (I'm currently based in Newcastle Upon Tyne,
but
> moving to South Shields in the near future, to a house with a yard
> suitable for boatbuilding).
>
> She's only the second Bolger boat I've seen for sale in the UK,
which
> would suggest that either not many have been built this side of the
> pond, or that they don't change hands very often. I know of four
that
> have been built here (this one, Bill Samson's Chebacco, a
Birdwatcher in
> Scotland, and a Japanese Beach Cruiser built and sailed on
Humberside,
> down the coast from me). I realise at this point I'm likely to
provoke a
> flurry of outraged emails from fellow UK-based list members who
know of
> more, but that's really the point, as I'm curious as to what's out
there.
>
> I'm hopefully going to be adding a boat to that list in the none
too
> distant future. I'm not certain which design yet, though almost
> certainly a Bolger. Those ruminations are for another email, I
think.
>
> Dan
Suggest investigation of Platt Monfort's boats. Very little stinky goo,
and not much sanding, though many hours of work. Or that's what people
say. And nice and light so you can carry it from your living room to the
elevator.
and not much sanding, though many hours of work. Or that's what people
say. And nice and light so you can carry it from your living room to the
elevator.
>Gabriel K. McAtee wrote:
>Greetings, all! I live in a high-rise in the windy city (otherwise known as
>Chicago), and have been bitten by the boat-building bug in a big way...
>I've probably spent enough on books an plans to build a small boat...
>*laugh* Unfortunately, space to build and store a boat are somewhat limited
>in a high rise, and I am wondering if any of you have ideas or suggestions
>as to likely places in this kind of environment (either general ideas or
>specific info, if you happen to know ChicagoLand fairly well) where I can
>feed my bug...
>
>regards,
> Gabriel McAtee
>
pvanderwaart wrote:
of 18' 6", which I guess includes the bowsprit, and is much closer to
the 19' 8" given in BWAOM for the Chebacco, which of course does not
have a bowsprit (one of the reasons why I like the design so much).
, and ballasted with a fixed keel.
Some of the Chebacco boats have a fixed keel and lead ballast, not
having seen a picture of Lynx below the waterline, I don't know how
similar it is. I'd guess that given that it was originally designed for
traditional construction methods it doesn't have a free-flooding box keel.
method. Any idea if the modifications are PCB designed or approved? Is
it a design that he recommends to people these days or has it been
superceded? As far as the group's aware, have many been built?
I must admit the example that's currently for sale is very pretty,
though I don't have £4,500 to spare and the rig isn't exactly to my
taste. It's also the wrong side of the country for me, though at least
it's at the right end (I'm currently based in Newcastle Upon Tyne, but
moving to South Shields in the near future, to a house with a yard
suitable for boatbuilding).
She's only the second Bolger boat I've seen for sale in the UK, which
would suggest that either not many have been built this side of the
pond, or that they don't change hands very often. I know of four that
have been built here (this one, Bill Samson's Chebacco, a Birdwatcher in
Scotland, and a Japanese Beach Cruiser built and sailed on Humberside,
down the coast from me). I realise at this point I'm likely to provoke a
flurry of outraged emails from fellow UK-based list members who know of
more, but that's really the point, as I'm curious as to what's out there.
I'm hopefully going to be adding a boat to that list in the none too
distant future. I'm not certain which design yet, though almost
certainly a Bolger. Those ruminations are for another email, I think.
Dan
>>I'mI should know better than to trust a yacht broker, they give the figure
>>wondering how Lynx would compare to the Chebacco boats?
>
>
> Lynx is much shorter (15' vs 20')
of 18' 6", which I guess includes the bowsprit, and is much closer to
the 19' 8" given in BWAOM for the Chebacco, which of course does not
have a bowsprit (one of the reasons why I like the design so much).
, and ballasted with a fixed keel.
Some of the Chebacco boats have a fixed keel and lead ballast, not
having seen a picture of Lynx below the waterline, I don't know how
similar it is. I'd guess that given that it was originally designed for
traditional construction methods it doesn't have a free-flooding box keel.
> The original design did not have real cockpit, so the entire volumeSo this is a modified Lynx, in more than just an alternate construction
> was useable interior. Construction was conventional, caulked carvel.
method. Any idea if the modifications are PCB designed or approved? Is
it a design that he recommends to people these days or has it been
superceded? As far as the group's aware, have many been built?
I must admit the example that's currently for sale is very pretty,
though I don't have £4,500 to spare and the rig isn't exactly to my
taste. It's also the wrong side of the country for me, though at least
it's at the right end (I'm currently based in Newcastle Upon Tyne, but
moving to South Shields in the near future, to a house with a yard
suitable for boatbuilding).
She's only the second Bolger boat I've seen for sale in the UK, which
would suggest that either not many have been built this side of the
pond, or that they don't change hands very often. I know of four that
have been built here (this one, Bill Samson's Chebacco, a Birdwatcher in
Scotland, and a Japanese Beach Cruiser built and sailed on Humberside,
down the coast from me). I realise at this point I'm likely to provoke a
flurry of outraged emails from fellow UK-based list members who know of
more, but that's really the point, as I'm curious as to what's out there.
I'm hopefully going to be adding a boat to that list in the none too
distant future. I'm not certain which design yet, though almost
certainly a Bolger. Those ruminations are for another email, I think.
Dan
> I'mLynx is much shorter (15' vs 20'), and ballasted with a fixed keel.
> wondering how Lynx would compare to the Chebacco boats?
The original design did not have real cockpit, so the entire volume
was useable interior. Construction was conventional, caulked carvel.
Peter
I've just spotted a very pretty example of a Lynx for sale here:
http://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=14758
It's not a design I'm particularly familiar with from my browsing on the
Internet and limited available reading materials (I've only managed to
get my grubby paws on Boats With an Open Mind, so far). Does anyone have
any more knowledge of this design that they'd like to share? I'm
wondering how it would compare to the Chebacco boats?
Dan
http://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=14758
It's not a design I'm particularly familiar with from my browsing on the
Internet and limited available reading materials (I've only managed to
get my grubby paws on Boats With an Open Mind, so far). Does anyone have
any more knowledge of this design that they'd like to share? I'm
wondering how it would compare to the Chebacco boats?
Dan
Hi Bob,
Where are you in sn Diego? I am in the Lakeside area. I might be able
to help you with some space if your other plan does not work out. How
big is this banca and the space you need?
Scott Calman
Where are you in sn Diego? I am in the Lakeside area. I might be able
to help you with some space if your other plan does not work out. How
big is this banca and the space you need?
Scott Calman
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, boblq <boblq@c...> wrote:
> I am in the midst of building a small sailboat. Here are some
images:
>http://www.osocomm.com/Bob/banka.html
>
> Recently the landlord decided to renovate and I lost
> my space to build. Finding a new space has been
> _far_ more difficult than any of the building effort.
> An overall housing shortage, gentrification and
> urbanization has turned this area (San Diego) into
> a very difficult place to find simple working space ...
>
> At an average of $1/sqft each month storage (only)
> where one would have to bootleg working is not very
> attractive. I am proposing a deal with a fellow to use
> a small area in his backyard but have during the last
> month spent at least 30-40 hours looking for a space
> to set up and work.
>
> It is kind of a drag.
>
> Bob La Quey
>
> BTW, I have been working outdoors previously, which is
> a real pleasure here and which I would like to continue.
>
> On Wednesday 23 June 2004 01:38 pm, Robert Gainer wrote:
> > Just thinking out load. If the boat is small enough, can you rent
space at
> > a self-storage place? The other chance if the boat is a bit
larger is a
> > small airport. They very often have hanger space to rent out.
Last but not
> > least ask at a boat yard
> > All the best;
> > Robert Gainer
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@s...>
> >
> > >Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: [bolger] Kind of off-topic....
> > >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:21:00 -0500
> > >
> > >Greetings, all! I live in a high-rise in the windy city
(otherwise known
> > >as
> > >Chicago), and have been bitten by the boat-building bug in a big
way...
> > >I've probably spent enough on books an plans to build a small
boat...
> > >*laugh* Unfortunately, space to build and store a boat are
somewhat
> > >limited
> > >in a high rise, and I am wondering if any of you have ideas or
suggestions
> > >as to likely places in this kind of environment (either general
ideas or
> > >specific info, if you happen to know ChicagoLand fairly well)
where I can
> > >feed my bug...
> > >
> > >regards,
> > > Gabriel McAtee
> > >
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> > - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax:
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I am in the midst of building a small sailboat. Here are some images:
http://www.osocomm.com/Bob/banka.html
Recently the landlord decided to renovate and I lost
my space to build. Finding a new space has been
_far_ more difficult than any of the building effort.
An overall housing shortage, gentrification and
urbanization has turned this area (San Diego) into
a very difficult place to find simple working space ...
At an average of $1/sqft each month storage (only)
where one would have to bootleg working is not very
attractive. I am proposing a deal with a fellow to use
a small area in his backyard but have during the last
month spent at least 30-40 hours looking for a space
to set up and work.
It is kind of a drag.
Bob La Quey
BTW, I have been working outdoors previously, which is
a real pleasure here and which I would like to continue.
http://www.osocomm.com/Bob/banka.html
Recently the landlord decided to renovate and I lost
my space to build. Finding a new space has been
_far_ more difficult than any of the building effort.
An overall housing shortage, gentrification and
urbanization has turned this area (San Diego) into
a very difficult place to find simple working space ...
At an average of $1/sqft each month storage (only)
where one would have to bootleg working is not very
attractive. I am proposing a deal with a fellow to use
a small area in his backyard but have during the last
month spent at least 30-40 hours looking for a space
to set up and work.
It is kind of a drag.
Bob La Quey
BTW, I have been working outdoors previously, which is
a real pleasure here and which I would like to continue.
On Wednesday 23 June 2004 01:38 pm, Robert Gainer wrote:
> Just thinking out load. If the boat is small enough, can you rent space at
> a self-storage place? The other chance if the boat is a bit larger is a
> small airport. They very often have hanger space to rent out. Last but not
> least ask at a boat yard
> All the best;
> Robert Gainer
>
>
>
> From: "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@...>
>
> >Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [bolger] Kind of off-topic....
> >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:21:00 -0500
> >
> >Greetings, all! I live in a high-rise in the windy city (otherwise known
> >as
> >Chicago), and have been bitten by the boat-building bug in a big way...
> >I've probably spent enough on books an plans to build a small boat...
> >*laugh* Unfortunately, space to build and store a boat are somewhat
> >limited
> >in a high rise, and I am wondering if any of you have ideas or suggestions
> >as to likely places in this kind of environment (either general ideas or
> >specific info, if you happen to know ChicagoLand fairly well) where I can
> >feed my bug...
> >
> >regards,
> > Gabriel McAtee
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
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>
>
>
Just thinking out load. If the boat is small enough, can you rent space at a
self-storage place? The other chance if the boat is a bit larger is a small
airport. They very often have hanger space to rent out. Last but not least
ask at a boat yard
All the best;
Robert Gainer
self-storage place? The other chance if the boat is a bit larger is a small
airport. They very often have hanger space to rent out. Last but not least
ask at a boat yard
All the best;
Robert Gainer
>From: "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@...>
>Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [bolger] Kind of off-topic....
>Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:21:00 -0500
>
>Greetings, all! I live in a high-rise in the windy city (otherwise known
>as
>Chicago), and have been bitten by the boat-building bug in a big way...
>I've probably spent enough on books an plans to build a small boat...
>*laugh* Unfortunately, space to build and store a boat are somewhat
>limited
>in a high rise, and I am wondering if any of you have ideas or suggestions
>as to likely places in this kind of environment (either general ideas or
>specific info, if you happen to know ChicagoLand fairly well) where I can
>feed my bug...
>
>regards,
> Gabriel McAtee
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Greetings, all! I live in a high-rise in the windy city (otherwise known as
Chicago), and have been bitten by the boat-building bug in a big way...
I've probably spent enough on books an plans to build a small boat...
*laugh* Unfortunately, space to build and store a boat are somewhat limited
in a high rise, and I am wondering if any of you have ideas or suggestions
as to likely places in this kind of environment (either general ideas or
specific info, if you happen to know ChicagoLand fairly well) where I can
feed my bug...
regards,
Gabriel McAtee
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Chicago), and have been bitten by the boat-building bug in a big way...
I've probably spent enough on books an plans to build a small boat...
*laugh* Unfortunately, space to build and store a boat are somewhat limited
in a high rise, and I am wondering if any of you have ideas or suggestions
as to likely places in this kind of environment (either general ideas or
specific info, if you happen to know ChicagoLand fairly well) where I can
feed my bug...
regards,
Gabriel McAtee
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Bruce and I have both built yulohs for our micro navigators, yet
neither of us have launched our boats, yet.......bruce is what looks
like days away and i'm about 7 or 8 weeks shy.
We both "guessed" at our dimension and are both unproven. I think we
both over did the legth figuring it easier to make it shorter than
longer......bruce has a really neat folder, of bolger design:
http://community.webshots.com/album/152437024nfhYQS
Mine is pretty traditional in appearance. i could post a photo but
it's so long it will be hard to see much. I know i have the angle
right, and i believe the outboard length, it the inboard bit that
will have to lose 18" or so.
There is some good info out there, google for sculling and there is
a yuloh page or two that will pop up, also in the microcruising
yahoo group files section there are plans for a matt layden designed
yuloh for his 15" little cruiser. Tom Mc Naughton has plans for a
scalable yuloh to fit you and your boats transom.
Jason
Jason
neither of us have launched our boats, yet.......bruce is what looks
like days away and i'm about 7 or 8 weeks shy.
We both "guessed" at our dimension and are both unproven. I think we
both over did the legth figuring it easier to make it shorter than
longer......bruce has a really neat folder, of bolger design:
http://community.webshots.com/album/152437024nfhYQS
Mine is pretty traditional in appearance. i could post a photo but
it's so long it will be hard to see much. I know i have the angle
right, and i believe the outboard length, it the inboard bit that
will have to lose 18" or so.
There is some good info out there, google for sculling and there is
a yuloh page or two that will pop up, also in the microcruising
yahoo group files section there are plans for a matt layden designed
yuloh for his 15" little cruiser. Tom Mc Naughton has plans for a
scalable yuloh to fit you and your boats transom.
Jason
Jason
Not me! Launching probabaly sometime in July.
See the Bolger article and photo of a yuloh he
designed for Swallow in 30 Odd Boats.
His yuloh was 9'6" overall with a 7 1/2" blade, fitted
to the boat Swallow, which is about 2/3rds the size of
a Micro [I recall]. Bolger tested it and declared it
a foot [or a foot and a half] too short.
My proto-type is 17 feet overall, made too long on
purpose. I plan cut it down to the best length
and blade width after trying it out.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/149977853/151049045FtvdnC
You also could ask Bolger to suggest some dimensions,
I understand he is fond of the idea for using a yuloh
on Micro. With the upcoming Micro upgrade fresh in
his mind, he might fancy adding that information to the
new sheet(s). [That might delay I60 progress though. <g>]
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:29:05 -0000,findleyjh@...
<findleyjh@...> wrote:
See the Bolger article and photo of a yuloh he
designed for Swallow in 30 Odd Boats.
His yuloh was 9'6" overall with a 7 1/2" blade, fitted
to the boat Swallow, which is about 2/3rds the size of
a Micro [I recall]. Bolger tested it and declared it
a foot [or a foot and a half] too short.
My proto-type is 17 feet overall, made too long on
purpose. I plan cut it down to the best length
and blade width after trying it out.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/149977853/151049045FtvdnC
You also could ask Bolger to suggest some dimensions,
I understand he is fond of the idea for using a yuloh
on Micro. With the upcoming Micro upgrade fresh in
his mind, he might fancy adding that information to the
new sheet(s). [That might delay I60 progress though. <g>]
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:29:05 -0000,findleyjh@...
<findleyjh@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings All,
>
> Has anyone built and used a yuloh for their Micro (or similar) who is
> also willing to share some dimensions for building one?
>
> All help appreciated,
> Jim
Greetings All,
Has anyone built and used a yuloh for their Micro (or similar) who is
also willing to share some dimensions for building one?
All help appreciated,
Jim
Has anyone built and used a yuloh for their Micro (or similar) who is
also willing to share some dimensions for building one?
All help appreciated,
Jim