Re: Slight Stretch of an Elegant Punt?
Jamie,
Thanks for the input. The experience of someone who has built and
used the boat is the best guide. The designed length seems small,
and I suspect it was chosen to fit the standard 8 foot plywood
sheet. But it seems that those who tried it, liked it "as is."
Regards
Rob M
Thanks for the input. The experience of someone who has built and
used the boat is the best guide. The designed length seems small,
and I suspect it was chosen to fit the standard 8 foot plywood
sheet. But it seems that those who tried it, liked it "as is."
Regards
Rob M
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "jas_orr" <jas_orr@y...> wrote:
> I built one for my eight year old. It was about as much as he
could
> row, and certainly big enough. Make the centreline seat as shown --
> I cut it short and put a standard seat across the back, and as a
> result it is too short for a 6 footer to row comfortably for long
> distances. but if I'd built it as drawn, it would have been fine.
>
> The eight footer is built without trouble from standard length
> plywood sheets -- a 10 footer will need scarfs or butt joints. we
> had the whole family of four in ours when the kids were around 12
and
> 15, and we've had wife, son and self for about 480 pounds load in
> choppy water since then. Worked fine, not a drop of water came
> aboard.
>
> You can probably tell I'm a little biased. I think the punt is a
> great boat as it is. Small enough for a kid to handle but big
enough
> for a serious tender.
>
> Jamie Orr
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Mouradian" <r_mouradian@y...>
> wrote:
> > I am looking at the Elegant Punt as a possible row boat for my 9
> year
> > old. Looks like it should have good initial stability and not
too
> > hard to car-top. But, maybe just a bit too small.
> >
> > Has anyone built a slightly longer version using 10 foot plywood?
> The
> > 10 foot material is locally available and it seems like it would
> > still be small enough to car-top. I assume I could just space
out
> > the plan lines, which are drawn at 6" intervals, to extend the
> length
> > by 25%. I don't plan to build the sail rig, so I don't have to
> worry
> > about the lee board or mast position.
> >
> > Am I making this too simple, or should that be OK?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rob
I built one for my eight year old. It was about as much as he could
row, and certainly big enough. Make the centreline seat as shown --
I cut it short and put a standard seat across the back, and as a
result it is too short for a 6 footer to row comfortably for long
distances. but if I'd built it as drawn, it would have been fine.
The eight footer is built without trouble from standard length
plywood sheets -- a 10 footer will need scarfs or butt joints. we
had the whole family of four in ours when the kids were around 12 and
15, and we've had wife, son and self for about 480 pounds load in
choppy water since then. Worked fine, not a drop of water came
aboard.
You can probably tell I'm a little biased. I think the punt is a
great boat as it is. Small enough for a kid to handle but big enough
for a serious tender.
Jamie Orr
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Mouradian" <r_mouradian@y...>
wrote:
row, and certainly big enough. Make the centreline seat as shown --
I cut it short and put a standard seat across the back, and as a
result it is too short for a 6 footer to row comfortably for long
distances. but if I'd built it as drawn, it would have been fine.
The eight footer is built without trouble from standard length
plywood sheets -- a 10 footer will need scarfs or butt joints. we
had the whole family of four in ours when the kids were around 12 and
15, and we've had wife, son and self for about 480 pounds load in
choppy water since then. Worked fine, not a drop of water came
aboard.
You can probably tell I'm a little biased. I think the punt is a
great boat as it is. Small enough for a kid to handle but big enough
for a serious tender.
Jamie Orr
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Mouradian" <r_mouradian@y...>
wrote:
> I am looking at the Elegant Punt as a possible row boat for my 9year
> old. Looks like it should have good initial stability and not tooThe
> hard to car-top. But, maybe just a bit too small.
>
> Has anyone built a slightly longer version using 10 foot plywood?
> 10 foot material is locally available and it seems like it wouldlength
> still be small enough to car-top. I assume I could just space out
> the plan lines, which are drawn at 6" intervals, to extend the
> by 25%. I don't plan to build the sail rig, so I don't have toworry
> about the lee board or mast position.
>
> Am I making this too simple, or should that be OK?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
You'd better make it skinnier while you're at it, and then it will not
be the same boat. What makes you think it's small? As I recall, it's not
bad for one oarsman my size. (probably about the weight of 3 nine year
olds). How about Poohsticks? Meant for kids. Good up to total
displacement of 250 lbs, as I recall. If anything, I would SHRINK
something like the Elegant Punt to make it easier for a kid. Maybe a
shrunk Teal. (but not shrunk by much)
Not sure why a kid would need good initial stability, unless fearful.
They are more athletic than we are and have less weight and height to
upset the boat. And they probably don't mind dunking as much either.
Once underway, with oarsman seated, most rowing boats are pretty stable.
How about a shrunk dory? Speedy, simple, pretty. Lifelong lessons in how
to get on and off boats. Also see Michalak designs for a bunch of small
rowboats.
be the same boat. What makes you think it's small? As I recall, it's not
bad for one oarsman my size. (probably about the weight of 3 nine year
olds). How about Poohsticks? Meant for kids. Good up to total
displacement of 250 lbs, as I recall. If anything, I would SHRINK
something like the Elegant Punt to make it easier for a kid. Maybe a
shrunk Teal. (but not shrunk by much)
Not sure why a kid would need good initial stability, unless fearful.
They are more athletic than we are and have less weight and height to
upset the boat. And they probably don't mind dunking as much either.
Once underway, with oarsman seated, most rowing boats are pretty stable.
How about a shrunk dory? Speedy, simple, pretty. Lifelong lessons in how
to get on and off boats. Also see Michalak designs for a bunch of small
rowboats.
>Me"Rob Mouradian" wrote:
>I am looking at the Elegant Punt as a possible row boat for my 9 year
>old. Looks like it should have good initial stability and not too
>hard to car-top. But, maybe just a bit too small.
>
>Has anyone built a slightly longer version using 10 foot plywood? The
>10 foot material is locally available and it seems like it would
>still be small enough to car-top. I assume I could just space out
>the plan lines, which are drawn at 6" intervals, to extend the length
>by 25%. I don't plan to build the sail rig, so I don't have to worry
>about the lee board or mast position.
>
>Am I making this too simple, or should that be OK?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rob
>
> I think your method of stretching would be fine.....though I wouldI agree all around, though I have two comments.
> have thought it plenty big enough for a 9 year old per plan.
> The Punt sits beautiful and stable on a roof, see link below,
> DonB
>http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/elegant%20punt.html
1) the EP is a little high-sided and narrow compared to my idea of
perfection in punts.
2) the strong rocker and sheer can cause trouble in car-topping
depending on the spacing and height of the roof rack.
Peter
I think your method of stretching would be fine.....though I would
have thought it plenty big enough for a 9 year old per plan.
The Punt sits beautiful and stable on a roof, see link below,
DonB
http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/elegant%20punt.html
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Mouradian" <r_mouradian@y...>
wrote:
have thought it plenty big enough for a 9 year old per plan.
The Punt sits beautiful and stable on a roof, see link below,
DonB
http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/elegant%20punt.html
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Mouradian" <r_mouradian@y...>
wrote:
> I am looking at the Elegant Punt as a possible row boat for my 9year
> old. Looks like it should have good initial stability and not tooThe
> hard to car-top. But, maybe just a bit too small.
>
> Has anyone built a slightly longer version using 10 foot plywood?
> 10 foot material is locally available and it seems like it wouldlength
> still be small enough to car-top. I assume I could just space out
> the plan lines, which are drawn at 6" intervals, to extend the
> by 25%. I don't plan to build the sail rig, so I don't have toworry
> about the lee board or mast position.
>
> Am I making this too simple, or should that be OK?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
I am looking at the Elegant Punt as a possible row boat for my 9 year
old. Looks like it should have good initial stability and not too
hard to car-top. But, maybe just a bit too small.
Has anyone built a slightly longer version using 10 foot plywood? The
10 foot material is locally available and it seems like it would
still be small enough to car-top. I assume I could just space out
the plan lines, which are drawn at 6" intervals, to extend the length
by 25%. I don't plan to build the sail rig, so I don't have to worry
about the lee board or mast position.
Am I making this too simple, or should that be OK?
Thanks,
Rob
old. Looks like it should have good initial stability and not too
hard to car-top. But, maybe just a bit too small.
Has anyone built a slightly longer version using 10 foot plywood? The
10 foot material is locally available and it seems like it would
still be small enough to car-top. I assume I could just space out
the plan lines, which are drawn at 6" intervals, to extend the length
by 25%. I don't plan to build the sail rig, so I don't have to worry
about the lee board or mast position.
Am I making this too simple, or should that be OK?
Thanks,
Rob