Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
Yes Howard. Interesting you draw the comparison, because Spencers
early keelers looked very much influenced by the Van de Stadt ply
fliers. His Sabre was very similar to the 30fter. And of course his
most exciting was Infidel. Those were the interesting days of plywood
experimentation,
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
early keelers looked very much influenced by the Van de Stadt ply
fliers. His Sabre was very similar to the 30fter. And of course his
most exciting was Infidel. Those were the interesting days of plywood
experimentation,
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
> Don,large
>
> It was Stormvgel I was thinking of. It wasn't built from sheet
> plywood but, as I recall, cold-moulded; so, a kind of plywoood.
>
> I used to admire those John Spencer very-light-displacement plywood
> sailing yachts of about the same era. Some of them were rather
> too.ocean
>
> Howard
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
> > No, Stormvogel was a large (about 70ft) round bilge ketch. I
> > photographed her here in Auckland once.
> > The plywood boat mentioned was a 30ft hard chine lightweight
> > racer. I think her name was something like Zee Haeng. Thespelling
> isEnglish
> > dodgy. The original plan featured in Yachting World, also showed
> the
> > whole cabin roof made from acrylic, like a glasshouse (or
> > Messchersmidt 109), but I don't think used in the final boat. I
> have
> > the magazine article somewhere in my archives.
> > DonB
> >http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
> > <stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
> > > Yes, thanks. Actually Stormvogel, which is Storm Bird in
> > I'mabout
> > > pretty sure. I'll Google around and see what I can find out
> > it.<pvanderwaart@y...>
> > > There might have been a series of them.
> > >
> > > Howard
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart"
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Maybe you can help me with its name, Marius.
> > > >
> > > > Stormvogul?
Don,
It was Stormvgel I was thinking of. It wasn't built from sheet
plywood but, as I recall, cold-moulded; so, a kind of plywoood.
I used to admire those John Spencer very-light-displacement plywood
sailing yachts of about the same era. Some of them were rather large
too.
Howard
It was Stormvgel I was thinking of. It wasn't built from sheet
plywood but, as I recall, cold-moulded; so, a kind of plywoood.
I used to admire those John Spencer very-light-displacement plywood
sailing yachts of about the same era. Some of them were rather large
too.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
> No, Stormvogel was a large (about 70ft) round bilge ketch. I
> photographed her here in Auckland once.
> The plywood boat mentioned was a 30ft hard chine lightweight ocean
> racer. I think her name was something like Zee Haeng. The spelling
is
> dodgy. The original plan featured in Yachting World, also showed
the
> whole cabin roof made from acrylic, like a glasshouse (or
> Messchersmidt 109), but I don't think used in the final boat. I
have
> the magazine article somewhere in my archives.
> DonB
>http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
> <stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
> > Yes, thanks. Actually Stormvogel, which is Storm Bird in English
> I'm
> > pretty sure. I'll Google around and see what I can find out about
> it.
> > There might have been a series of them.
> >
> > Howard
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Maybe you can help me with its name, Marius.
> > >
> > > Stormvogul?
No, Stormvogel was a large (about 70ft) round bilge ketch. I
photographed her here in Auckland once.
The plywood boat mentioned was a 30ft hard chine lightweight ocean
racer. I think her name was something like Zee Haeng. The spelling is
dodgy. The original plan featured in Yachting World, also showed the
whole cabin roof made from acrylic, like a glasshouse (or
Messchersmidt 109), but I don't think used in the final boat. I have
the magazine article somewhere in my archives.
DonB
http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
photographed her here in Auckland once.
The plywood boat mentioned was a 30ft hard chine lightweight ocean
racer. I think her name was something like Zee Haeng. The spelling is
dodgy. The original plan featured in Yachting World, also showed the
whole cabin roof made from acrylic, like a glasshouse (or
Messchersmidt 109), but I don't think used in the final boat. I have
the magazine article somewhere in my archives.
DonB
http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
> Yes, thanks. Actually Stormvogel, which is Storm Bird in EnglishI'm
> pretty sure. I'll Google around and see what I can find out aboutit.
> There might have been a series of them.
>
> Howard
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
> wrote:
> > > Maybe you can help me with its name, Marius.
> >
> > Stormvogul?
Taken from link in previous message...
Rough conversion between Imperial and Metric
Five centimetres is just less than two inches.
Five millimetres is just less than a fifth of an inch.
A foot is slightly more than 30 centimetres (think of a ruler).
A metre is a few inches more than a yard.
A kilometre is over half a mile (about 5/8 if you don't mind
fractions).
A hectare is about two and a half acres.
Accurate conversion
1 inch = 2.54 cm
1 foot = 30.48 cm
1 yard = 91.44 cm
1 mile = 1.609344 km
1 cm = .3937 ins
10 cm = 3.937 ins
1 m = 1 yard 3.37 ins
1 km = 0.6213711 miles
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
Rough conversion between Imperial and Metric
Five centimetres is just less than two inches.
Five millimetres is just less than a fifth of an inch.
A foot is slightly more than 30 centimetres (think of a ruler).
A metre is a few inches more than a yard.
A kilometre is over half a mile (about 5/8 if you don't mind
fractions).
A hectare is about two and a half acres.
Accurate conversion
1 inch = 2.54 cm
1 foot = 30.48 cm
1 yard = 91.44 cm
1 mile = 1.609344 km
1 cm = .3937 ins
10 cm = 3.937 ins
1 m = 1 yard 3.37 ins
1 km = 0.6213711 miles
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<stephensonhw@a...> wrote:
> Robin,we've
>
> If there are 25.4 millimetres to the inch -- and there are, as
> already established -- there would be 39.37 inches to the metre.<robinbadenoch@a...>
>
> 1/25.4 = 0.03937
>
> And there are 100 cm to the metre -- that is why they are called
> centimetres.
>
> Howard
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Badenoch"
> wrote:the
> > Hi,
> > There are 25.4 millimetres to the inch and 39.6 inches to
> meter. Not sure about the preceding. 10 mm = 1cm 10cm = 1m. Tapeone
> measures and rulers in OZ generally have both measuring systems
> on each edge so conversion can be done on the job.there
> >
> > Rob B (Australia, bought up during the conversion from imperial
> measurement to metric)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gabriel K. McAtee
> > To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:28 AM
> > Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
> >
> >
> > You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition
> are
> > precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy
> conversion
> > from feet/inches to cm....
> >
> > --Gabe
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yes, thanks. Actually Stormvogel, which is Storm Bird in English I'm
pretty sure. I'll Google around and see what I can find out about it.
There might have been a series of them.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
wrote:
pretty sure. I'll Google around and see what I can find out about it.
There might have been a series of them.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
wrote:
> > Maybe you can help me with its name, Marius.
>
> Stormvogul?
> Maybe you can help me with its name, Marius.Stormvogul?
Bruynzeel marine plywood is still famous. A long time ago Mr
Bruynzeel used to campaign a successful racing yacht with a Bruynzeel
plywood hull. Maybe you can help me with its name, Marius.
Howard
Bruynzeel used to campaign a successful racing yacht with a Bruynzeel
plywood hull. Maybe you can help me with its name, Marius.
Howard
> BTW our plywood is of a very high standard and manufactured here inSouth
> Africa, mostly from pine. The exterior ply is waterproof and is tosaid to
> be the same as marine ply, in fact comes from the same process,just maybe a
> slight difference in finish. Our sizes are standard at 2440 x 1220,and we
> tend to follow Euro standards and quality controls prettydiligently as we
> export most of our (South Africa) goods there.
>
> Kind Regards
> Marius
It wouldn't take very long to make up a table:
1/16 .0625" .16cm
1/8 .125" .32cm
3/16 .1875 .48
etc. etc.
1 foot 30.48cm
My Machinery's Handbook gives the conversion factor between cm and
inches to many decimal places. For going between inches and cm they just
say multiply by 2.54, with an asterisk which refers to a footnote saying
the number is "exact".
Still, seems like it might be easier to just acquire the proper
measuring instruments, unless you are going to scale the design in which
case my guess is converting to metric wins hands down.
1/16 .0625" .16cm
1/8 .125" .32cm
3/16 .1875 .48
etc. etc.
1 foot 30.48cm
My Machinery's Handbook gives the conversion factor between cm and
inches to many decimal places. For going between inches and cm they just
say multiply by 2.54, with an asterisk which refers to a footnote saying
the number is "exact".
Still, seems like it might be easier to just acquire the proper
measuring instruments, unless you are going to scale the design in which
case my guess is converting to metric wins hands down.
>David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
>Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:58 PM
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
>
>
>Great! Now explain to Marius a ready conversion factor to eighths and
>sixteenths.... and remember just how many measurements will need to be
>calculated for the complete boat. Personally, I prefer metric; but
>converting boat plans on the fly is no bed of roses.
>
Hello Grant,
I suppose one could order such a measuring tape from the USA, but since I
grew up with metric and have never used inches, pounds and such, I don't
have clue what two or three inches means while I sure know what 10 cm is.
The problem is not unsolvable, I would just like to avoid getting mixed up
between mm - inches and remembering to scale up. So working in metric from
the beginning makes more sense, to me at least.
As I said before I hoped that someone had already done the conversions and
tested it, so that I can avoid having to make the mistakes myself, but its
not such a great problem, I have a good conversion program, I'll just hope
for some luck and get going ASAP.
Cheers
Marius
Marius Lubbe
Creative MindsR HQ
Cape Town, South Africa
Cell: 082 785 7763
www.minds.co.za <http://www.minds.co.za/>
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From: grant corson [mailto:corson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:31 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] RE: Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
What could be simpler than acquiring the proper measuring instrument, there
are measuring tapes that have metric on one edge and inches on the
other???????
Grant
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I suppose one could order such a measuring tape from the USA, but since I
grew up with metric and have never used inches, pounds and such, I don't
have clue what two or three inches means while I sure know what 10 cm is.
The problem is not unsolvable, I would just like to avoid getting mixed up
between mm - inches and remembering to scale up. So working in metric from
the beginning makes more sense, to me at least.
As I said before I hoped that someone had already done the conversions and
tested it, so that I can avoid having to make the mistakes myself, but its
not such a great problem, I have a good conversion program, I'll just hope
for some luck and get going ASAP.
Cheers
Marius
Marius Lubbe
Creative MindsR HQ
Cape Town, South Africa
Cell: 082 785 7763
www.minds.co.za <http://www.minds.co.za/>
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From: grant corson [mailto:corson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:31 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] RE: Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
What could be simpler than acquiring the proper measuring instrument, there
are measuring tapes that have metric on one edge and inches on the
other???????
Grant
on 7/13/04 1:12 PM, Lincoln Ross atlincolnr@...wrote:
> It wouldn't take very long to make up a table:Bolger rules!!!
> 1/16 .0625" .16cm
> 1/8 .125" .32cm
> 3/16 .1875 .48
> etc. etc.
> 1 foot 30.48cm
> My Machinery's Handbook gives the conversion factor between cm and
> inches to many decimal places. For going between inches and cm they just
> say multiply by 2.54, with an asterisk which refers to a footnote saying
> the number is "exact".
>
> Still, seems like it might be easier to just acquire the proper
> measuring instruments, unless you are going to scale the design in which
> case my guess is converting to metric wins hands down.
>
>> David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:58 PM
>> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
>>
>>
>> Great! Now explain to Marius a ready conversion factor to eighths and
>> sixteenths.... and remember just how many measurements will need to be
>> calculated for the complete boat. Personally, I prefer metric; but
>> converting boat plans on the fly is no bed of roses.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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What could be simpler than acquiring the proper measuring instrument, there
are measuring tapes that have metric on one edge and inches on the
other???????
Grant
on 7/13/04 1:12 PM, Lincoln Ross atlincolnr@...wrote:
are measuring tapes that have metric on one edge and inches on the
other???????
Grant
on 7/13/04 1:12 PM, Lincoln Ross atlincolnr@...wrote:
> It wouldn't take very long to make up a table:
> 1/16 .0625" .16cm
> 1/8 .125" .32cm
> 3/16 .1875 .48
> etc. etc.
> 1 foot 30.48cm
> My Machinery's Handbook gives the conversion factor between cm and
> inches to many decimal places. For going between inches and cm they just
> say multiply by 2.54, with an asterisk which refers to a footnote saying
> the number is "exact".
>
> Still, seems like it might be easier to just acquire the proper
> measuring instruments, unless you are going to scale the design in which
> case my guess is converting to metric wins hands down.
>
>> David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:58 PM
>> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
>>
>>
>> Great! Now explain to Marius a ready conversion factor to eighths and
>> sixteenths.... and remember just how many measurements will need to be
>> calculated for the complete boat. Personally, I prefer metric; but
>> converting boat plans on the fly is no bed of roses.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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>
*blush* Uh..... yeah, that's what I meant :)
--Gabe
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From: Roger Derby [mailto:derbyrm@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:06 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
Er, Gabe. How about 2.54 centimeters to the inch?
Roger
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--Gabe
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From: Roger Derby [mailto:derbyrm@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:06 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
Er, Gabe. How about 2.54 centimeters to the inch?
Roger
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@...>
You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there
are precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for
easy conversion from feet/inches to cm....
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the feedback. I believe David below got the right message,
its not converting that worries me, it having converted and proofed the
plans that I was hoping someone has already done. If I must be the one to
make the mistakes, I was hoping it would not be with my first
self-built-boat.
BTW our plywood is of a very high standard and manufactured here in South
Africa, mostly from pine. The exterior ply is waterproof and is to said to
be the same as marine ply, in fact comes from the same process, just maybe a
slight difference in finish. Our sizes are standard at 2440 x 1220, and we
tend to follow Euro standards and quality controls pretty diligently as we
export most of our (South Africa) goods there.
Kind Regards
Marius
Marius Lubbe
Creative MindsR HQ
Cape Town, South Africa
Cell: 082 785 7763
www.minds.co.za
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From: David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:58 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
Great! Now explain to Marius a ready conversion factor to eighths and
sixteenths.... and remember just how many measurements will need to be
calculated for the complete boat. Personally, I prefer metric; but
converting boat plans on the fly is no bed of roses.
David
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From: Gabriel K. McAtee [mailto:gmcatee@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:58 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there are
precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy conversion
from feet/inches to cm....
--Gabe
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Thanks for all the feedback. I believe David below got the right message,
its not converting that worries me, it having converted and proofed the
plans that I was hoping someone has already done. If I must be the one to
make the mistakes, I was hoping it would not be with my first
self-built-boat.
BTW our plywood is of a very high standard and manufactured here in South
Africa, mostly from pine. The exterior ply is waterproof and is to said to
be the same as marine ply, in fact comes from the same process, just maybe a
slight difference in finish. Our sizes are standard at 2440 x 1220, and we
tend to follow Euro standards and quality controls pretty diligently as we
export most of our (South Africa) goods there.
Kind Regards
Marius
Marius Lubbe
Creative MindsR HQ
Cape Town, South Africa
Cell: 082 785 7763
www.minds.co.za
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From: David Romasco [mailto:dromasco@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:58 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
Great! Now explain to Marius a ready conversion factor to eighths and
sixteenths.... and remember just how many measurements will need to be
calculated for the complete boat. Personally, I prefer metric; but
converting boat plans on the fly is no bed of roses.
David
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From: Gabriel K. McAtee [mailto:gmcatee@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:58 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there are
precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy conversion
from feet/inches to cm....
--Gabe
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Robin,
If there are 25.4 millimetres to the inch -- and there are, as we've
already established -- there would be 39.37 inches to the metre.
1/25.4 = 0.03937
And there are 100 cm to the metre -- that is why they are called
centimetres.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Badenoch" <robinbadenoch@a...>
wrote:
measures and rulers in OZ generally have both measuring systems one
on each edge so conversion can be done on the job.
If there are 25.4 millimetres to the inch -- and there are, as we've
already established -- there would be 39.37 inches to the metre.
1/25.4 = 0.03937
And there are 100 cm to the metre -- that is why they are called
centimetres.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Badenoch" <robinbadenoch@a...>
wrote:
> Hi,meter. Not sure about the preceding. 10 mm = 1cm 10cm = 1m. Tape
> There are 25.4 millimetres to the inch and 39.6 inches to the
measures and rulers in OZ generally have both measuring systems one
on each edge so conversion can be done on the job.
>measurement to metric)
> Rob B (Australia, bought up during the conversion from imperial
> ----- Original Message -----are
> From: Gabriel K. McAtee
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:28 AM
> Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
>
>
> You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there
> precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easyconversion
> from feet/inches to cm....
>
> --Gabe
>
> _____
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi,
There are 25.4 millimetres to the inch and 39.6 inches to the meter. Not sure about the preceding. 10 mm = 1cm 10cm = 1m. Tape measures and rulers in OZ generally have both measuring systems one on each edge so conversion can be done on the job.
Rob B (Australia, bought up during the conversion from imperial measurement to metric)
There are 25.4 millimetres to the inch and 39.6 inches to the meter. Not sure about the preceding. 10 mm = 1cm 10cm = 1m. Tape measures and rulers in OZ generally have both measuring systems one on each edge so conversion can be done on the job.
Rob B (Australia, bought up during the conversion from imperial measurement to metric)
----- Original Message -----
From: Gabriel K. McAtee
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there are
precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy conversion
from feet/inches to cm....
--Gabe
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Bruce,
I thought all Australian-made marine ply was 2400 x 1200, whereas at
least some imported ply is 2440 x 1220. I haven't actually measured
the sheets, but a look at a few websites (e.g.
http://www.constructionplywoods.com.au) supports that impression,
gained originally from a plywood retailer.
PCB loves to make the most of the full sheet of ply, so there can be
a problem if one is laying out an instant boat from sheets that are
slightly smaller than 8' x 4'.
Marius is in South Africa; I don't know what is available there.
Howard
I thought all Australian-made marine ply was 2400 x 1200, whereas at
least some imported ply is 2440 x 1220. I haven't actually measured
the sheets, but a look at a few websites (e.g.
http://www.constructionplywoods.com.au) supports that impression,
gained originally from a plywood retailer.
PCB loves to make the most of the full sheet of ply, so there can be
a problem if one is laying out an instant boat from sheets that are
slightly smaller than 8' x 4'.
Marius is in South Africa; I don't know what is available there.
Howard
--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, fountainb@s... wrote:
> Howard Stephenson wrote:
> > There is another slight problem: metric plywood is 2400 x 1200.
> > Imperial plywood is 8' x 4', which is close to 2440 x 1220.
>
> This is probably not true, but it is a good idea to check. I got
> caught once with 2400x1200, but I have never seen ply of these
> dimensions since. Standard metric plywood here is 2440x1220.
>
> Bruce Fountain
> Senior Software Engineer
> Union Switch & Signal
> Perth, Western Australia
Howard Stephenson wrote:
caught once with 2400x1200, but I have never seen ply of these
dimensions since. Standard metric plywood here is 2440x1220.
Bruce Fountain
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
> There is another slight problem: metric plywood is 2400 x 1200.This is probably not true, but it is a good idea to check. I got
> Imperial plywood is 8' x 4', which is close to 2440 x 1220.
caught once with 2400x1200, but I have never seen ply of these
dimensions since. Standard metric plywood here is 2440x1220.
Bruce Fountain
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
I was going to say that it's precise only to three significant
figures, although that's probably accurate enough for boatbuilding.
But it seems, as Gabriel implies, that the Imperial inch is now
defined in terms of the centimetre. More information at
http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/length.htm
I haven't had much to do with programmable calculators, but my guess
is that they could be programmed to make these simple conversions too
(including handling inches, eighths and sixteenths), if you couldn't
find a dedicated device e.g. an Imperial tape or folding measure, or
the special calculator suggested.
Howard
figures, although that's probably accurate enough for boatbuilding.
But it seems, as Gabriel implies, that the Imperial inch is now
defined in terms of the centimetre. More information at
http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/length.htm
I haven't had much to do with programmable calculators, but my guess
is that they could be programmed to make these simple conversions too
(including handling inches, eighths and sixteenths), if you couldn't
find a dedicated device e.g. an Imperial tape or folding measure, or
the special calculator suggested.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@s...> wrote:
> Er, Gabe. How about 2.54 centimeters to the inch?
>
> Roger
> derbyrm@s...
> derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@s...>
>
>
> You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there
> are precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for
> easy conversion from feet/inches to cm....
Er, Gabe. How about 2.54 centimeters to the inch?
Roger
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
Roger
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@...>
You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there
are precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for
easy conversion from feet/inches to cm....
To be exact Gabe, it's actually the opposite: 2.54 cm to 1 inch!
:-)
This link will bring you to a download page to a great converter...
http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@s...>
wrote:
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4ck1na/
:-)
This link will bring you to a download page to a great converter...
http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel K. McAtee" <gmcatee@s...>
wrote:
> You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition thereare
> precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easyconversion
> from feet/inches to cm....calculator
>
> --Gabe
>
> _____
>
> From: Grupos [mailto:grupos@p...]
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:35 PM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
>
>
> > seriously. It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket
> > that would do the conversion.posts
>
>http://www.promax.com.ar/conversor.htm
>
> Regards, Máximo.
>
>
>
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You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there are
precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy conversion
from feet/inches to cm....
--Gabe
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From: Grupos [mailto:grupos@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:35 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
Regards, Máximo.
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precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy conversion
from feet/inches to cm....
--Gabe
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From: Grupos [mailto:grupos@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:35 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
> seriously. It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket calculatorhttp://www.promax.com.ar/conversor.htm
> that would do the conversion.
Regards, Máximo.
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Great! Now explain to Marius a ready conversion factor to eighths and
sixteenths.... and remember just how many measurements will need to be
calculated for the complete boat. Personally, I prefer metric; but
converting boat plans on the fly is no bed of roses.
David
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From: Gabriel K. McAtee [mailto:gmcatee@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:58 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there are
precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy conversion
from feet/inches to cm....
--Gabe
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
sixteenths.... and remember just how many measurements will need to be
calculated for the complete boat. Personally, I prefer metric; but
converting boat plans on the fly is no bed of roses.
David
_____
From: Gabriel K. McAtee [mailto:gmcatee@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:58 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
You can certainly use any tool out there, but by definition there are
precisely 2.54 inches to the centimeter. That allows for easy conversion
from feet/inches to cm....
--Gabe
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What�s the advantage to converting all the measurements? If you need to work
in the metric system use a tape in meters. If you need to work in inches use
a tape in inches.
Bob
in the metric system use a tape in meters. If you need to work in inches use
a tape in inches.
Bob
>From: "David Romasco" <dromasco@...>
>Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:02:37 -0400
>
>Gentlemen,
>I use just such a calculator; they're fairly common in US-based DIY stores,
>and are probably readily available via the internet. Mine is a ProjectCalc
>Model 8515 by Calculated Industries. I forget the price, but it was quite
>reasonable. It will convert metric to feet/inches/fractions and vice
>versa.
>A useful tool when you work in both metric and Imperial as we do here.
>
>David
>
> _____
>
>From: Howard Stephenson [mailto:stephensonhw@...]
>Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:56 PM
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
>
>
> <snip> It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket calculator
>that would do the conversion. <snip>
>Howard
>Gold Coast
>Australia
>
>
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Marius Lubbe - Creative MindsR HQ
><marius@c...> wrote:
> > Does anyone have the plans for Diablo in metric form please, it
>will save me
> > a lot of time converting!
> >
> > Thanks
> > Marius
> >
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> seriously. It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket calculatorhttp://www.promax.com.ar/conversor.htm
> that would do the conversion.
Regards, Máximo.
Gentlemen,
I use just such a calculator; they're fairly common in US-based DIY stores,
and are probably readily available via the internet. Mine is a ProjectCalc
Model 8515 by Calculated Industries. I forget the price, but it was quite
reasonable. It will convert metric to feet/inches/fractions and vice versa.
A useful tool when you work in both metric and Imperial as we do here.
David
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From: Howard Stephenson [mailto:stephensonhw@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:56 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
<snip> It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket calculator
that would do the conversion. <snip>
Howard
Gold Coast
Australia
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Marius Lubbe - Creative MindsR HQ
<marius@c...> wrote:
I use just such a calculator; they're fairly common in US-based DIY stores,
and are probably readily available via the internet. Mine is a ProjectCalc
Model 8515 by Calculated Industries. I forget the price, but it was quite
reasonable. It will convert metric to feet/inches/fractions and vice versa.
A useful tool when you work in both metric and Imperial as we do here.
David
_____
From: Howard Stephenson [mailto:stephensonhw@...]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:56 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo Plans in metric form ?
<snip> It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket calculator
that would do the conversion. <snip>
Howard
Gold Coast
Australia
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Marius Lubbe - Creative MindsR HQ
<marius@c...> wrote:
> Does anyone have the plans for Diablo in metric form please, itwill save me
> a lot of time converting![Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Thanks
> Marius
>
Marius,
I'm one of the lucky ones who are more-or-less imperial-metric
bilingual, having grown up with feet and inches, learning metric at
school and finding it easy to handle when it came into force here
about 40 years ago.
There are between 100 and 150 dimensions on the plan that need to be
converted, although some would be duplicates. You could use Excel or
a similar spreadsheet to do it, but of course you would have to enter
all those feet, inches and eighths. You might be able to find a
bilingual steel tape, such as is still fairly readily available here,
and probably in Britain, where they have not yet taken metric
seriously. It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket calculator
that would do the conversion.
There is another slight problem: metric plywood is 2400 x 1200.
Imperial plywood is 8' x 4', which is close to 2440 x 1220. The plan
is laid out on 8' x 4' sheets of ply. I haven't analysed this
thoroughly but I can see, for example, that the butts in the ply
sides and bottom will have to be moved if you use metric ply. You
might be able to buy 8 x 4 ply (it's still available here imported
from Malaysia), or you could scale down the dimensions slightly when
doing the conversion, so that the boat is slightly smaller; i.e. you
would convert so that 4' becomes 1200mm.
Or if you really wanted to have fun, you could scale up the plan, to
make the boat bigger. A Diablo scaled x 1.5 linear would have 3.375
times the weight, volume, load capacity and power requirement!
Hope this is useful.
Howard
Gold Coast
Australia
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Marius Lubbe - Creative MindsR HQ
<marius@c...> wrote:
I'm one of the lucky ones who are more-or-less imperial-metric
bilingual, having grown up with feet and inches, learning metric at
school and finding it easy to handle when it came into force here
about 40 years ago.
There are between 100 and 150 dimensions on the plan that need to be
converted, although some would be duplicates. You could use Excel or
a similar spreadsheet to do it, but of course you would have to enter
all those feet, inches and eighths. You might be able to find a
bilingual steel tape, such as is still fairly readily available here,
and probably in Britain, where they have not yet taken metric
seriously. It's a pity someone doesn't produce a pocket calculator
that would do the conversion.
There is another slight problem: metric plywood is 2400 x 1200.
Imperial plywood is 8' x 4', which is close to 2440 x 1220. The plan
is laid out on 8' x 4' sheets of ply. I haven't analysed this
thoroughly but I can see, for example, that the butts in the ply
sides and bottom will have to be moved if you use metric ply. You
might be able to buy 8 x 4 ply (it's still available here imported
from Malaysia), or you could scale down the dimensions slightly when
doing the conversion, so that the boat is slightly smaller; i.e. you
would convert so that 4' becomes 1200mm.
Or if you really wanted to have fun, you could scale up the plan, to
make the boat bigger. A Diablo scaled x 1.5 linear would have 3.375
times the weight, volume, load capacity and power requirement!
Hope this is useful.
Howard
Gold Coast
Australia
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Marius Lubbe - Creative MindsR HQ
<marius@c...> wrote:
> Does anyone have the plans for Diablo in metric form please, itwill save me
> a lot of time converting!
>
> Thanks
> Marius
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Does anyone have the plans for Diablo in metric form please, it will save me
a lot of time converting!
Thanks
Marius
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a lot of time converting!
Thanks
Marius
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