[bolger] Re: Construction started! And marine plywood
Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco wrote:
is from this list, and has Micro plans from CSD. He doesn't have time to
build it right now, but is contemplating the plans and thinking about some
modifications. This is his second building project.
your micro and your Volvo will sleep outside. But don't worry, a good polish
makes miracles :-)
o.k., but I have to say that I found some small defects in the core veneers
after cuting. Nothing serious, I think.
Francisco
p.s.: If you go in a near future to "La Maternaa Accessori Di Scano & Co.
SNC" (Vía A. Manzoni), you will find some spring hinges, door retainers,
etc. with the "Justor" mark. My wife exported them today. The world is an
handkerchief!
> Hi Francisco - congratulations! It looks like the Med will be full ofI got surprised days ago by a guy from Barcelona that sent me an e-mail. Hi
> Micros in no time (well, sort of).
is from this list, and has Micro plans from CSD. He doesn't have time to
build it right now, but is contemplating the plans and thinking about some
modifications. This is his second building project.
> I just bought a new car (a Volvo V40) but until it's so shinyYour car is not going to be shining anymore when you will start assembling
> my wife won't allow me to transport plywood or lumber...
your micro and your Volvo will sleep outside. But don't worry, a good polish
makes miracles :-)
> Back to plywood...Thanks for the comments (and the web) about ply. I see that our stuff is
o.k., but I have to say that I found some small defects in the core veneers
after cuting. Nothing serious, I think.
Francisco
p.s.: If you go in a near future to "La Maternaa Accessori Di Scano & Co.
SNC" (Vía A. Manzoni), you will find some spring hinges, door retainers,
etc. with the "Justor" mark. My wife exported them today. The world is an
handkerchief!
Hi Francisco - congratulations! It looks like the Med will be full of
Micros in no time (well, sort of).
Luckily enough a friend of mine (who owns a truck transport company,
and hosts the southern Italy wharehouse of one of Italy's biggest
lumber selling companies) delivered my 250 kg of plywood right into my
garage. I just bought a new car (a Volvo V40) but until it's so shiny
my wife won't allow me to transport plywood or lumber...
Back to plywood, a couple of years ago I bought some CTB-X okoume which
was also stamped AW-100, that should be equivalent to the Lloyd's BS
1088, but it did have butts on the inner layers. Actually, it's
interesting to know the real marine BS-1088 specs. As you can read
hereafter (to read the whole documento go tohttp://209.237.144.92/bs10
88.htm), butts are allowed also in the face veneers (at least that is
what I understand from the text).
I'm pretty sure that this cheap CTB-X is very, very similar to real
marine, except for the certification (which is very expensive)...
Face Veneers
These shall present a solid surface, free from open defects. They shall
be free from knots, other than sound pin knots, of which there shall be
no more than 6 in any area 30cm square (1ft2), and not more than an
average of 2 per 30cm square (1ft2) over the whole area of the board.
The veneers shall be reasonably free from irregular grain, due note
being taken to the characteristics of the species being used. Isolated
pinholes not along the plane of the veneers, and occasional closed
splits are permissible. Veneers showing compression failure shall be
excluded. Occasional minor discoloration is permissible.
There shall be not more than one edge joint in any 30cm (1ft2) width of
the board, and the veneers shall, when jointed, be matched for color.
There shall be no end joints.
Core Veneers.
The requirements for core veneers shall be the same as those for face
veneers, with the following exceptions. Small splits are permitted, and
there is no limitation on the number of pin knots or edge joints.
Discoloration is permissible, provided this is free from dote. Veneers
need not be matched for color. There shall be no end joints.
Best, Pippo
francisco =?iso-8859-1?q?ram=edrez?= <astrolabi-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3764
Micros in no time (well, sort of).
Luckily enough a friend of mine (who owns a truck transport company,
and hosts the southern Italy wharehouse of one of Italy's biggest
lumber selling companies) delivered my 250 kg of plywood right into my
garage. I just bought a new car (a Volvo V40) but until it's so shiny
my wife won't allow me to transport plywood or lumber...
Back to plywood, a couple of years ago I bought some CTB-X okoume which
was also stamped AW-100, that should be equivalent to the Lloyd's BS
1088, but it did have butts on the inner layers. Actually, it's
interesting to know the real marine BS-1088 specs. As you can read
hereafter (to read the whole documento go tohttp://209.237.144.92/bs10
88.htm), butts are allowed also in the face veneers (at least that is
what I understand from the text).
I'm pretty sure that this cheap CTB-X is very, very similar to real
marine, except for the certification (which is very expensive)...
Face Veneers
These shall present a solid surface, free from open defects. They shall
be free from knots, other than sound pin knots, of which there shall be
no more than 6 in any area 30cm square (1ft2), and not more than an
average of 2 per 30cm square (1ft2) over the whole area of the board.
The veneers shall be reasonably free from irregular grain, due note
being taken to the characteristics of the species being used. Isolated
pinholes not along the plane of the veneers, and occasional closed
splits are permissible. Veneers showing compression failure shall be
excluded. Occasional minor discoloration is permissible.
There shall be not more than one edge joint in any 30cm (1ft2) width of
the board, and the veneers shall, when jointed, be matched for color.
There shall be no end joints.
Core Veneers.
The requirements for core veneers shall be the same as those for face
veneers, with the following exceptions. Small splits are permitted, and
there is no limitation on the number of pin knots or edge joints.
Discoloration is permissible, provided this is free from dote. Veneers
need not be matched for color. There shall be no end joints.
Best, Pippo
francisco =?iso-8859-1?q?ram=edrez?= <astrolabi-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=3764
> Hi, Pippo. Thanks for your answer. Yesterday I bougth three more ply
> sheets,
> and yes, is CTB-X. They told me that the only difference with marine
> ply, is
> that in m.p. the inner layers are also one piece.
Hi, Pippo. Thanks for your answer. Yesterday I bougth three more ply
sheets,
and yes, is CTB-X. They told me that the only difference with marine
ply, is
that in m.p. the inner layers are also one piece.
I have the whole Saturday to work (wow!), because my wife went to his
mother's house (with my son). I'm planning to cut my sides today.
I'm buying small amounts of ply, because I have to take them in my small
car
(Punto) roof, and bring them up to my apartment with my wifes help...
not easy.
Those of you who have big pick-ups or get the request at home, may be in
a garage or
in a specific place, are losing part of the emotion of boat building .
;-)
I'm working in a small shop, that was calculated to draw-cut 122 x 244
cm.
(4' x 8') panels. So, first of all I have to cut the 6 extra centimeters
in
order to go in with the stuff. Im looking for a bigger (and lower)
place
for summer to assemble the hull... and then... I dont know, maybe
taking
the bolger box to the water and finish it there?
So, I can say... I started building... the drug is running in my veins!!
Francisco
p.s.: Tuesday I went to the Barcelonas Maritim Museum. Incredible. They
have a biiiiig -196 ft- row boat build in this place in 1576? that
fightedin some battles.
Has something like 100 oars... each oar was drived by three
slaves... If somebody from the list is comming to Barcelona for
holydays,
business or to see-sail the first (?) spanish Micro, I will take you to
visit it.
Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco wrote:
sheets,
and yes, is CTB-X. They told me that the only difference with marine
ply, is
that in m.p. the inner layers are also one piece.
I have the whole Saturday to work (wow!), because my wife went to his
mother's house (with my son). I'm planning to cut my sides today.
I'm buying small amounts of ply, because I have to take them in my small
car
(Punto) roof, and bring them up to my apartment with my wifes help...
not easy.
Those of you who have big pick-ups or get the request at home, may be in
a garage or
in a specific place, are losing part of the emotion of boat building .
;-)
I'm working in a small shop, that was calculated to draw-cut 122 x 244
cm.
(4' x 8') panels. So, first of all I have to cut the 6 extra centimeters
in
order to go in with the stuff. Im looking for a bigger (and lower)
place
for summer to assemble the hull... and then... I dont know, maybe
taking
the bolger box to the water and finish it there?
So, I can say... I started building... the drug is running in my veins!!
Francisco
p.s.: Tuesday I went to the Barcelonas Maritim Museum. Incredible. They
have a biiiiig -196 ft- row boat build in this place in 1576? that
fightedin some battles.
Has something like 100 oars... each oar was drived by three
slaves... If somebody from the list is comming to Barcelona for
holydays,
business or to see-sail the first (?) spanish Micro, I will take you to
visit it.
Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco wrote:
> Hi Franciscoon
> it seems your plywood is pretty much the same of mine, except of the
> size which in my case is 1.53x3.10 m^2 (5'x10').
> The stuff is almost identical to marine ply, with no Lloyd stamp or
> other certifications. Most probably it's made in France. If you look
> the labels, you should find "CTB-X", which is roughly equivalent tonow.
> ACX. I've cut through several panels and haven't find a void up to
> The price looks ok. I'd say go for it, but look for voids aound thedue
> edges before buying if you can. The external layer are so thin also
> to the finish sanding.
> Best, Pippo