Birdwatcher Ride! was Re: WoodenBoat Show 2004
Yes, he was at the Bolger and Friends tent setup (well I think it was
him, he looked like the picture on the groups main site). They were
not listed in the Exhibitors directory, but from a previous post, I
think they were late in being notified. No I was too shy to approach
him. Don't ask me why, perhaps I was afraid he'd ask me a question,
and instead of an intelligent answer I would just freeze in awe of
the man! And I would hate to act like a silly kid raving about the
ride I just had.
Oh, Peter (the other passenger) found out Mason was selling the BW. I
believe the asking price is $4k.
Paul
him, he looked like the picture on the groups main site). They were
not listed in the Exhibitors directory, but from a previous post, I
think they were late in being notified. No I was too shy to approach
him. Don't ask me why, perhaps I was afraid he'd ask me a question,
and instead of an intelligent answer I would just freeze in awe of
the man! And I would hate to act like a silly kid raving about the
ride I just had.
Oh, Peter (the other passenger) found out Mason was selling the BW. I
believe the asking price is $4k.
Paul
> Thanks for the Birdwatcher report! You didn't mention Phil Bolger,
> was he there and did you see or speak to him?
Yes, he was at the Bolger and Friends tent setup (well I think it was
him, he looked like the picture on the groups main site). They were
not listed in the Exhibitors directory, but from a previous post, I
think they were late in being notified. No I was too shy to approach
him. Don't ask me why, perhaps I was afraid he'd ask me a question,
and instead of an intelligent answer I would just freeze in awe of
the man! And I would hate to act like a silly kid raving about the
ride I just had.
Oh, Peter (the other passenger) found out Mason was selling the BW. I
believe the asking price is $4k.
Paul
him, he looked like the picture on the groups main site). They were
not listed in the Exhibitors directory, but from a previous post, I
think they were late in being notified. No I was too shy to approach
him. Don't ask me why, perhaps I was afraid he'd ask me a question,
and instead of an intelligent answer I would just freeze in awe of
the man! And I would hate to act like a silly kid raving about the
ride I just had.
Oh, Peter (the other passenger) found out Mason was selling the BW. I
believe the asking price is $4k.
Paul
> Thanks for the Birdwatcher report! You didn't mention Phil Bolger,
> was he there and did you see or speak to him?
Thanks for the Birdwatcher report! You didn't mention Phil Bolger,
was he there and did you see or speak to him?
was he there and did you see or speak to him?
First thing I did was take pictures of Sven Lundin's (now Sven
Yrvind) Bris at the entrance to the Museum of Yachting for another
email group, previously owed.
Second thing was I found the Birdwatcher tied off to another large
boat, that was previously sunk, raised then restored. Nice of them to
allow the BW to tie off to them.
This was Mason Smith's boat of the latest Woodenboat Magazine
article. He and Susanne Altenburger were about to take another fellow
for a sail and they were nice enough to allow me to join them. I have
a Dovekie, and was very interested in a comparison. Pretty windy
today, and apparently it was too windy yesterday so that they didn't
take it out. Glad I came today.
First thing I did was to step down in the middle of the deck. Oops,
you're supposed to step centered over a frame. Sorry! Hopped down in,
offered any assistance, but they just told us to basically stay out
of the way and they would take care of everything. Cool.
Susanne was at the helm. They used the engine to get out of the
enclosed area, and then they set up the sail. Took off like a shot.
It's great having the center slot open, instead of hatches as in the
Dovekie. Don't keep having to duck down. Also, in a Dovekie, people
end up sitting on the benches as you can't see anything on the floor.
What a difference with the Lexan windows, sitting on the floor with
feet pressed on the other side is so much more useful as live
ballast. Plus you have the feeling of being right at water level,
whereas in the Dovekie you are sitting up higher and feel somewhat
isolated.
I have never had the Dovekie out in very windy conditions as this,
plus I do not consider myself a good sailer, as I have use my kayaks
most often. The Dovekie was just to hold the kids. Anyway the DOvekie
basically sails flat. I have flipped the Hunter 140's in sailing
school, so I know at what point of heel they flip. Tough in the
Dovekie as it really doesn't heel much.
The Birdwatcher, heels over a bit, and if it goes to far the water
just hits the windows and keeps it all upright. I was told as it
heels over it just depowers the sail. Seems to be a better feel as
far as heeling goes.
There is some hobby horsing (I think that is the correct term), but
that is preferable to the pounding in the Dovekie. I guess the bottom
rocker is responsible for that in the BW. I only heard the BW pound
once.
Susanne couldn't resist pulling up along side a Rhode's 19 in a
friednly little race. The BW pulled ahead, and eventually she cut
across in front of the Rhodes. She's very nice and apparently very
competetive! What a playful look in her eyes as she was passing the
other boat.
I have an early Dovekie with the smaller leeboards, and the boat
tends to slip sideways when getting hit broadside by other boats
wakes, which gives a somewhat nauseous feeling. Not so with the BW. I
would assume the later larger leeboards would take care of this in
the Dovekie.
We chased down a couple of more boats, and had a great time. So glad
I came today. Thanks to Mason and Susanne for the great time. Peter,
the other passenger had his camera, and will send me any pics that
come out well. My wife took some pics going out, and coming back in,
so I will post some eventually.
I saw the Caledonia yawl as well. Sure looks wider in real life. Very
pretty boat. My wife had to have a look at the mini tugboat. THe
owner apparently has a great time in it.
There was also a Gary Dierking designed Ulua there. Very pretty
outrigger sailing canoe with a crab claw sail.
It's mostly a vendor display, but I was glad to see the boats that I
did. Would like to see a Bolger messabout some day.
Paul
Yrvind) Bris at the entrance to the Museum of Yachting for another
email group, previously owed.
Second thing was I found the Birdwatcher tied off to another large
boat, that was previously sunk, raised then restored. Nice of them to
allow the BW to tie off to them.
This was Mason Smith's boat of the latest Woodenboat Magazine
article. He and Susanne Altenburger were about to take another fellow
for a sail and they were nice enough to allow me to join them. I have
a Dovekie, and was very interested in a comparison. Pretty windy
today, and apparently it was too windy yesterday so that they didn't
take it out. Glad I came today.
First thing I did was to step down in the middle of the deck. Oops,
you're supposed to step centered over a frame. Sorry! Hopped down in,
offered any assistance, but they just told us to basically stay out
of the way and they would take care of everything. Cool.
Susanne was at the helm. They used the engine to get out of the
enclosed area, and then they set up the sail. Took off like a shot.
It's great having the center slot open, instead of hatches as in the
Dovekie. Don't keep having to duck down. Also, in a Dovekie, people
end up sitting on the benches as you can't see anything on the floor.
What a difference with the Lexan windows, sitting on the floor with
feet pressed on the other side is so much more useful as live
ballast. Plus you have the feeling of being right at water level,
whereas in the Dovekie you are sitting up higher and feel somewhat
isolated.
I have never had the Dovekie out in very windy conditions as this,
plus I do not consider myself a good sailer, as I have use my kayaks
most often. The Dovekie was just to hold the kids. Anyway the DOvekie
basically sails flat. I have flipped the Hunter 140's in sailing
school, so I know at what point of heel they flip. Tough in the
Dovekie as it really doesn't heel much.
The Birdwatcher, heels over a bit, and if it goes to far the water
just hits the windows and keeps it all upright. I was told as it
heels over it just depowers the sail. Seems to be a better feel as
far as heeling goes.
There is some hobby horsing (I think that is the correct term), but
that is preferable to the pounding in the Dovekie. I guess the bottom
rocker is responsible for that in the BW. I only heard the BW pound
once.
Susanne couldn't resist pulling up along side a Rhode's 19 in a
friednly little race. The BW pulled ahead, and eventually she cut
across in front of the Rhodes. She's very nice and apparently very
competetive! What a playful look in her eyes as she was passing the
other boat.
I have an early Dovekie with the smaller leeboards, and the boat
tends to slip sideways when getting hit broadside by other boats
wakes, which gives a somewhat nauseous feeling. Not so with the BW. I
would assume the later larger leeboards would take care of this in
the Dovekie.
We chased down a couple of more boats, and had a great time. So glad
I came today. Thanks to Mason and Susanne for the great time. Peter,
the other passenger had his camera, and will send me any pics that
come out well. My wife took some pics going out, and coming back in,
so I will post some eventually.
I saw the Caledonia yawl as well. Sure looks wider in real life. Very
pretty boat. My wife had to have a look at the mini tugboat. THe
owner apparently has a great time in it.
There was also a Gary Dierking designed Ulua there. Very pretty
outrigger sailing canoe with a crab claw sail.
It's mostly a vendor display, but I was glad to see the boats that I
did. Would like to see a Bolger messabout some day.
Paul
> I went to the show this weekend, saw one of Ian Oughtred"s (sp?)Caledonia yawls
> the Birdwatcher was moored off shore but her lines wereunmistakable, the show was great,
I went to the show this weekend, saw one of Ian Oughtred"s (sp?) Caledonia
yawls, a Handy Billy built by Goeff Kerr of 2 Daughters Boatworks up here in
Vermont and lots of other fantastic handmade wooden boats, the Birdwatcher
was moored off shore but her lines were unmistakable, the show was great,
several flea market type tents with loads of used boating hardware and
tools, a great show, but I am glad to be home,
Grant
on 7/22/04 5:00 PM, Paul atkayaker37@...wrote:
yawls, a Handy Billy built by Goeff Kerr of 2 Daughters Boatworks up here in
Vermont and lots of other fantastic handmade wooden boats, the Birdwatcher
was moored off shore but her lines were unmistakable, the show was great,
several flea market type tents with loads of used boating hardware and
tools, a great show, but I am glad to be home,
Grant
on 7/22/04 5:00 PM, Paul atkayaker37@...wrote:
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> A previous post mentions the Wooden Boat show. I found the web page:
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>https://s12.a2zinc.net/clients/wbs/wbs2004/
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> I've never been to this, is there many of you going? Can I expect to
> see many Bolger boats there? Of course seeing the Birdwatcher may be
> enough :)
> Paul
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I went to the WoodenBoat Show when it was in South Haven a few years
ago. It is the mecca for people who like to build boats. There was a
very large variety of craft, demonstations, etc. It was a day well
spent. Wish I could make it to Newport.
ago. It is the mecca for people who like to build boats. There was a
very large variety of craft, demonstations, etc. It was a day well
spent. Wish I could make it to Newport.
A previous post mentions the Wooden Boat show. I found the web page:
https://s12.a2zinc.net/clients/wbs/wbs2004/
I've never been to this, is there many of you going? Can I expect to
see many Bolger boats there? Of course seeing the Birdwatcher may be
enough :)
Paul
https://s12.a2zinc.net/clients/wbs/wbs2004/
I've never been to this, is there many of you going? Can I expect to
see many Bolger boats there? Of course seeing the Birdwatcher may be
enough :)
Paul