Re: Having Micro withdrawal-- mizzen furl trick
> with this chinese gaff rig, there is no other good way to furl thesprit
> mizzen that I can see. You can't use a hallyard because of the
> boom and sheet anchorages; lifting the mast out would be awkwardand
> untidy because of all the ropes, etc etc. I'm not sure it is avery
> workmanlike rig except when you are sailing.I think this is why the update shows a chinese gaff mizzen that
settles into it's own little lazyjacks. Let the toping lift go and
the gaff snuffs the whole rig. Just need a quick lash to hold it in
place.
Jason
.
I just tried this, and it works, except that the stiffening around
the top of the sail won't flatten, and a triangle sticks out at the
top, looks a bit untidy, and will catch the wind some. Trouble is
with this chinese gaff rig, there is no other good way to furl the
mizzen that I can see. You can't use a hallyard because of the sprit
boom and sheet anchorages; lifting the mast out would be awkward and
untidy because of all the ropes, etc etc. I'm not sure it is a very
workmanlike rig except when you are sailing.
DonB
the top of the sail won't flatten, and a triangle sticks out at the
top, looks a bit untidy, and will catch the wind some. Trouble is
with this chinese gaff rig, there is no other good way to furl the
mizzen that I can see. You can't use a hallyard because of the sprit
boom and sheet anchorages; lifting the mast out would be awkward and
untidy because of all the ropes, etc etc. I'm not sure it is a very
workmanlike rig except when you are sailing.
DonB
> Doesn't the mizzen furl by rolling it up on it's leech,
> and then lashing it to the mast? Several Bolger
> sprit sails furl this way, starting with (I think) Pointer.
Oooooh!
Scan it into the files, i'd like to see as well.....please
Same goes for you folks with the navigator rig, i'm overwhellemed by
the number of lines :)......2 more lines on the new mizzen now.
Thanks,
Jason
Scan it into the files, i'd like to see as well.....please
Same goes for you folks with the navigator rig, i'm overwhellemed by
the number of lines :)......2 more lines on the new mizzen now.
Thanks,
Jason
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > the rigging, starting next week. Any chance I can get a cop of
David's
> > instructions? Greatfully, Bill
>
> I am curious about this too!
>
> Doesn't the mizzen furl by rolling it up on it's leech,
> and then lashing it to the mast? Several Bolger
> sprit sails furl this way, starting with (I think) Pointer.
> the rigging, starting next week. Any chance I can get a cop of David'sI am curious about this too!
> instructions? Greatfully, Bill
Doesn't the mizzen furl by rolling it up on it's leech,
and then lashing it to the mast? Several Bolger
sprit sails furl this way, starting with (I think) Pointer.
Rob, I have a Chebacco (Samantha), and I am going to have to figure out
the rigging, starting next week. Any chance I can get a cop of Davids
instructions? Greatfully, Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: goganrob [mailto:goganrob@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:53
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Having Micro withdrawal-- mizzen furl trick
David, sorry your kids miss the Micro but if it's any consolation to
them, my sons, nieces and nephew get a big kick out of sailing on a
boat with a cabin. I will keep an eye out for "Magnificat" as I
gunkhole Buzzards Bay. Let's rendez-vous in '05!
Trudy, I sympathize with your interest in spending less time at
launching ramps and more time sailing. I agree that rigging the
mizzen can be tricky. David Jost wrote excellent Micro rigging
instructions for me. (Thanks for this too David!) If you'd like, I
can scan them and send them over to you or anyone else. If more than
two on this list want the rigging instructions I will post them to
the group at large. Please let me know! One of the mizzen tricks
I've learned that saves much rigging time is to furl the mizzen sail
around the mast. Just remove the mizzen spar and wrap the mizzen
around and around the mast about five times until it's snug. Then
tie it tight with a looped line about 5' high, just above the mizzen
snotter fixture (sorry I don't have the exact nomenclature at hand),
which forms a big enough bulge that a tight knot will prevent
slippage down the mast. Then suspend the end of the main spar from
the loop in the line (with the snotter tightly pulled in, of course),
which creates a helpful steadying rail when you are moving fore and
aft. This also looks tidy at anchor. Many Micros are pictured at
anchor with the mizzen fully rigged; I found that I couldn't do this
without dragging the anchor when facing the strong Sou'westerlies of
Buzzards Bay. Amazing how much wind resistance the luffing mizzen
creates! So when I'm able to keep the boat in the water between
sails of a week or less, I just keep the mizzen rigged but furled.
The mainsail of course sleeps very soundly in the bow well even in a
gale with a couple of loose turns of the halyard line to keep it from
spilling out too much.
--Rob
Rob, I'll be anxious to hear about your adventures and tricks you've
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the rigging, starting next week. Any chance I can get a cop of Davids
instructions? Greatfully, Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: goganrob [mailto:goganrob@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:53
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Having Micro withdrawal-- mizzen furl trick
David, sorry your kids miss the Micro but if it's any consolation to
them, my sons, nieces and nephew get a big kick out of sailing on a
boat with a cabin. I will keep an eye out for "Magnificat" as I
gunkhole Buzzards Bay. Let's rendez-vous in '05!
Trudy, I sympathize with your interest in spending less time at
launching ramps and more time sailing. I agree that rigging the
mizzen can be tricky. David Jost wrote excellent Micro rigging
instructions for me. (Thanks for this too David!) If you'd like, I
can scan them and send them over to you or anyone else. If more than
two on this list want the rigging instructions I will post them to
the group at large. Please let me know! One of the mizzen tricks
I've learned that saves much rigging time is to furl the mizzen sail
around the mast. Just remove the mizzen spar and wrap the mizzen
around and around the mast about five times until it's snug. Then
tie it tight with a looped line about 5' high, just above the mizzen
snotter fixture (sorry I don't have the exact nomenclature at hand),
which forms a big enough bulge that a tight knot will prevent
slippage down the mast. Then suspend the end of the main spar from
the loop in the line (with the snotter tightly pulled in, of course),
which creates a helpful steadying rail when you are moving fore and
aft. This also looks tidy at anchor. Many Micros are pictured at
anchor with the mizzen fully rigged; I found that I couldn't do this
without dragging the anchor when facing the strong Sou'westerlies of
Buzzards Bay. Amazing how much wind resistance the luffing mizzen
creates! So when I'm able to keep the boat in the water between
sails of a week or less, I just keep the mizzen rigged but furled.
The mainsail of course sleeps very soundly in the bow well even in a
gale with a couple of loose turns of the halyard line to keep it from
spilling out too much.
--Rob
Rob, I'll be anxious to hear about your adventures and tricks you've
> learned along the way, so "keep those cards and letters coming!"with
> Rigging has me a bit puzzled but I haven't had a chance to play
> it yet. Rigging the mizzen is, at the moment, a mystery to beBolger rules!!!
> figured out. If anyone can help let me know!
>
> Trudy Nash, Marshalls Creek PA
>
>
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David, sorry your kids miss the Micro but if it's any consolation to
them, my sons, nieces and nephew get a big kick out of sailing on a
boat with a cabin. I will keep an eye out for "Magnificat" as I
gunkhole Buzzards Bay. Let's rendez-vous in '05!
Trudy, I sympathize with your interest in spending less time at
launching ramps and more time sailing. I agree that rigging the
mizzen can be tricky. David Jost wrote excellent Micro rigging
instructions for me. (Thanks for this too David!) If you'd like, I
can scan them and send them over to you or anyone else. If more than
two on this list want the rigging instructions I will post them to
the group at large. Please let me know! One of the mizzen tricks
I've learned that saves much rigging time is to furl the mizzen sail
around the mast. Just remove the mizzen spar and wrap the mizzen
around and around the mast about five times until it's snug. Then
tie it tight with a looped line about 5' high, just above the mizzen
snotter fixture (sorry I don't have the exact nomenclature at hand),
which forms a big enough bulge that a tight knot will prevent
slippage down the mast. Then suspend the end of the main spar from
the loop in the line (with the snotter tightly pulled in, of course),
which creates a helpful steadying rail when you are moving fore and
aft. This also looks tidy at anchor. Many Micros are pictured at
anchor with the mizzen fully rigged; I found that I couldn't do this
without dragging the anchor when facing the strong Sou'westerlies of
Buzzards Bay. Amazing how much wind resistance the luffing mizzen
creates! So when I'm able to keep the boat in the water between
sails of a week or less, I just keep the mizzen rigged but furled.
The mainsail of course sleeps very soundly in the bow well even in a
gale with a couple of loose turns of the halyard line to keep it from
spilling out too much.
--Rob
Rob, I'll be anxious to hear about your adventures and tricks you've
them, my sons, nieces and nephew get a big kick out of sailing on a
boat with a cabin. I will keep an eye out for "Magnificat" as I
gunkhole Buzzards Bay. Let's rendez-vous in '05!
Trudy, I sympathize with your interest in spending less time at
launching ramps and more time sailing. I agree that rigging the
mizzen can be tricky. David Jost wrote excellent Micro rigging
instructions for me. (Thanks for this too David!) If you'd like, I
can scan them and send them over to you or anyone else. If more than
two on this list want the rigging instructions I will post them to
the group at large. Please let me know! One of the mizzen tricks
I've learned that saves much rigging time is to furl the mizzen sail
around the mast. Just remove the mizzen spar and wrap the mizzen
around and around the mast about five times until it's snug. Then
tie it tight with a looped line about 5' high, just above the mizzen
snotter fixture (sorry I don't have the exact nomenclature at hand),
which forms a big enough bulge that a tight knot will prevent
slippage down the mast. Then suspend the end of the main spar from
the loop in the line (with the snotter tightly pulled in, of course),
which creates a helpful steadying rail when you are moving fore and
aft. This also looks tidy at anchor. Many Micros are pictured at
anchor with the mizzen fully rigged; I found that I couldn't do this
without dragging the anchor when facing the strong Sou'westerlies of
Buzzards Bay. Amazing how much wind resistance the luffing mizzen
creates! So when I'm able to keep the boat in the water between
sails of a week or less, I just keep the mizzen rigged but furled.
The mainsail of course sleeps very soundly in the bow well even in a
gale with a couple of loose turns of the halyard line to keep it from
spilling out too much.
--Rob
Rob, I'll be anxious to hear about your adventures and tricks you've
> learned along the way, so "keep those cards and letters coming!"with
> Rigging has me a bit puzzled but I haven't had a chance to play
> it yet. Rigging the mizzen is, at the moment, a mystery to be
> figured out. If anyone can help let me know!
>
> Trudy Nash, Marshalls Creek PA
>
>
Hi Micro Owners! I too bought my Micro last year from it's builders,
Lisa and Randy Robar (who had a "biggerboatitis" attack), and after
it sat in my driveway for 9 months I finally found a summer home for
her... rented a fresh water lake slip for the remainder of the summer
since trailer launching was getting cumbersome for me as
a "single." I'm very excited because now I can play around as a new
sailor and actually get some sailing in without worrying about
pulling her in and tying her down for the ride home. It was too
much to do in one day.
Rob, I'll be anxious to hear about your adventures and tricks you've
learned along the way, so "keep those cards and letters coming!"
Rigging has me a bit puzzled but I haven't had a chance to play with
it yet. Rigging the mizzen is, at the moment, a mystery to be
figured out. If anyone can help let me know!
Trudy Nash, Marshalls Creek PA
. --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "goganrob" <goganrob@y...> wrote:
Lisa and Randy Robar (who had a "biggerboatitis" attack), and after
it sat in my driveway for 9 months I finally found a summer home for
her... rented a fresh water lake slip for the remainder of the summer
since trailer launching was getting cumbersome for me as
a "single." I'm very excited because now I can play around as a new
sailor and actually get some sailing in without worrying about
pulling her in and tying her down for the ride home. It was too
much to do in one day.
Rob, I'll be anxious to hear about your adventures and tricks you've
learned along the way, so "keep those cards and letters coming!"
Rigging has me a bit puzzled but I haven't had a chance to play with
it yet. Rigging the mizzen is, at the moment, a mystery to be
figured out. If anyone can help let me know!
Trudy Nash, Marshalls Creek PA
. --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "goganrob" <goganrob@y...> wrote:
> Just joined this list! Been a lurker for a year but back fromsnotter
> vacation, I am having severe Micro-withdrawal and I just couldn't
> resist signing up with the buccaneers and builders of Bolgerdom.
>
> I must also thank David Jost who did such a fine job building the
> Micro I bought in 2003! Good luck in your Marshall catboat
> adventures, David! My only hardware failure to date was the
> block on the mast, which popped out in a 15 knot breeze in Buzzardsthe
> Bay. We probably should have slackened the snotter in those
> conditions. No harm done; I just tied the head of the spar to the
> base of the mast. With the mizzen sheeted in tight, we faced the
> chop properly while I tended to the spar. We sailed home all on
> same tack just fine. To repair, we just tied up to a dock whichthe
> tide had put high enough out of the water so that I could reach theplodder
> mast and put in two new (slightly thicker) brass screws. It was
> lucky that we didn't have to take out the mast. We were back out
> sailing in an hour.
>
> I think the Micro is a terrific all-around sailer; kind of a
> when pointing, but graceful and forgiving overall. Not a goodlight
> air sailor, but where we sail there's almost always great air.mizzen
> Tacking on a choppy day tends to put her in irons, but as Elrow
> LaRowe said, manually back-filling the main while luffing the
> always swings her around to the desired tack. We furled her oneday
> in a 18-20 knot breeze and she sailed like a dream. In the Baywide
> swells she reached along like the gem of the ocean, spreading a
> wake of creamy froth and spinning twin bubble vortices far beyondthe
> stern. David warned me that the twin bubble-wake would look liketwo
> submarines cruising below the hull, and indeed it does!Harbor,
>
> Having already cruised Buzzards Bay, Pleasant Bay and Boston
> my wife, sons and I look forward to many more Micro adventures!
> Would particularly like to hear of others' sailing adventures with
> Micro-cruising.
>
> Regards to all,
>
> Rob Gogan
> Acton, MA
I sold Firefly as I was offered what I was asking. Simple as
that...I also happen to have always wanted a Cape Cod Catboat and
the opportunity arose to purchase one and rehabilitate it.
I guess I like working on boats as much as sailing them. I am
seriously looking at jumping into the building of an AS 29. All the
virtues of Micro, yet suitable for longer stays.
David Jost
that...I also happen to have always wanted a Cape Cod Catboat and
the opportunity arose to purchase one and rehabilitate it.
I guess I like working on boats as much as sailing them. I am
seriously looking at jumping into the building of an AS 29. All the
virtues of Micro, yet suitable for longer stays.
David Jost
I'm having to do alot more work to my micro than I first anticipated.
I know that it will payoff in the end, but I really want to get it on
the water.
Been toying with ideas for a paint job.
Check it out on the BOlger 4 files, under A2's Micro.
I know that it will payoff in the end, but I really want to get it on
the water.
Been toying with ideas for a paint job.
Check it out on the BOlger 4 files, under A2's Micro.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h...> wrote:
> David-
> What spurred you to sell firefly? Were you in someway unhappy with
> boat and it's perforance or did biggerboatitus set in? Your webpage
> for firefly along with a few others is why i convinced myself i
> could/should build my navigator insteady of fixing up an old junker
> potter 15. Too bad i've got to take a few weeks off from building to
> go collect some data.
> Jason.......the cruising will come soon
David-
What spurred you to sell firefly? Were you in someway unhappy with
boat and it's perforance or did biggerboatitus set in? Your webpage
for firefly along with a few others is why i convinced myself i
could/should build my navigator insteady of fixing up an old junker
potter 15. Too bad i've got to take a few weeks off from building to
go collect some data.
Jason.......the cruising will come soon
What spurred you to sell firefly? Were you in someway unhappy with
boat and it's perforance or did biggerboatitus set in? Your webpage
for firefly along with a few others is why i convinced myself i
could/should build my navigator insteady of fixing up an old junker
potter 15. Too bad i've got to take a few weeks off from building to
go collect some data.
Jason.......the cruising will come soon
Rob -
I cannot tell you how happy your posting has made me. The fact that
your boat has given you some pleasurable memories, means a lot to
its creator.
This is spurring me on to build an AS 29. My kids miss the Micro.
We are moving the catboat over to Buzzard's Bay next season as the
ride to Harwich has become too much to endure on a regular basis.
Thanks
David JOst
I cannot tell you how happy your posting has made me. The fact that
your boat has given you some pleasurable memories, means a lot to
its creator.
This is spurring me on to build an AS 29. My kids miss the Micro.
We are moving the catboat over to Buzzard's Bay next season as the
ride to Harwich has become too much to endure on a regular basis.
Thanks
David JOst
Just joined this list! Been a lurker for a year but back from
vacation, I am having severe Micro-withdrawal and I just couldn't
resist signing up with the buccaneers and builders of Bolgerdom.
I must also thank David Jost who did such a fine job building the
Micro I bought in 2003! Good luck in your Marshall catboat
adventures, David! My only hardware failure to date was the snotter
block on the mast, which popped out in a 15 knot breeze in Buzzards
Bay. We probably should have slackened the snotter in those
conditions. No harm done; I just tied the head of the spar to the
base of the mast. With the mizzen sheeted in tight, we faced the
chop properly while I tended to the spar. We sailed home all on the
same tack just fine. To repair, we just tied up to a dock which the
tide had put high enough out of the water so that I could reach the
mast and put in two new (slightly thicker) brass screws. It was
lucky that we didn't have to take out the mast. We were back out
sailing in an hour.
I think the Micro is a terrific all-around sailer; kind of a plodder
when pointing, but graceful and forgiving overall. Not a good light
air sailor, but where we sail there's almost always great air.
Tacking on a choppy day tends to put her in irons, but as Elrow
LaRowe said, manually back-filling the main while luffing the mizzen
always swings her around to the desired tack. We furled her one day
in a 18-20 knot breeze and she sailed like a dream. In the Bay
swells she reached along like the gem of the ocean, spreading a wide
wake of creamy froth and spinning twin bubble vortices far beyond the
stern. David warned me that the twin bubble-wake would look like two
submarines cruising below the hull, and indeed it does!
Having already cruised Buzzards Bay, Pleasant Bay and Boston Harbor,
my wife, sons and I look forward to many more Micro adventures!
Would particularly like to hear of others' sailing adventures with
Micro-cruising.
Regards to all,
Rob Gogan
Acton, MA
vacation, I am having severe Micro-withdrawal and I just couldn't
resist signing up with the buccaneers and builders of Bolgerdom.
I must also thank David Jost who did such a fine job building the
Micro I bought in 2003! Good luck in your Marshall catboat
adventures, David! My only hardware failure to date was the snotter
block on the mast, which popped out in a 15 knot breeze in Buzzards
Bay. We probably should have slackened the snotter in those
conditions. No harm done; I just tied the head of the spar to the
base of the mast. With the mizzen sheeted in tight, we faced the
chop properly while I tended to the spar. We sailed home all on the
same tack just fine. To repair, we just tied up to a dock which the
tide had put high enough out of the water so that I could reach the
mast and put in two new (slightly thicker) brass screws. It was
lucky that we didn't have to take out the mast. We were back out
sailing in an hour.
I think the Micro is a terrific all-around sailer; kind of a plodder
when pointing, but graceful and forgiving overall. Not a good light
air sailor, but where we sail there's almost always great air.
Tacking on a choppy day tends to put her in irons, but as Elrow
LaRowe said, manually back-filling the main while luffing the mizzen
always swings her around to the desired tack. We furled her one day
in a 18-20 knot breeze and she sailed like a dream. In the Bay
swells she reached along like the gem of the ocean, spreading a wide
wake of creamy froth and spinning twin bubble vortices far beyond the
stern. David warned me that the twin bubble-wake would look like two
submarines cruising below the hull, and indeed it does!
Having already cruised Buzzards Bay, Pleasant Bay and Boston Harbor,
my wife, sons and I look forward to many more Micro adventures!
Would particularly like to hear of others' sailing adventures with
Micro-cruising.
Regards to all,
Rob Gogan
Acton, MA