Re: Hopeless Bolger Group..nobody knows design #258

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
> From memory Bolger specifys that "Hope" can do about 10.5 Knots or
thereabouts with a 18 HP outboard, more power would result in more
speed, but she may cock her bow in the air a bit and possibly throw a
lot of spray, some of which will come inboard! For a faster and
drier boat checkout "Seguin" a 15' 6'' x7' ? (takes a 60+ HP, but
performs well with a 25HPf)rom the same "Small Boats" Book or as
somebody said Bolger's "Shivaree" in 16', 18' and 21' versions with
7' Beam and 10.5" draft(Hull)
> avsube <raburke@i...> wrote:--- In
bolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
> > Yes Al, I know it, from Bolgers first book, Small Boats 1973.
> > She looks a very able design, but I have never seen one, or
> references
> > to the design here.
> > Have you seen the article and Bolgers description in the book?
> > If you have not, I could scan and email it to you, if you can see
> > through your fug of Fosters.
> > DonB
>
> Thanks Don,
> If you hapen to have 'the book' open , I will be pleased to have a
> copy of what 'the master' has to say about this design....I don't
> have a copy of the book but know many of the plans well.
> While Fosters is widely loved around the world, I fear that it is
the
> potency of my home-brew that is the reason for my occasional rude
> message...I appologise to all my shipmates out there!
> btw...where is here?..NZ?
> Happy Long Tan Day mate.Al.
>
>
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Thanks Hugo,she looks to be that type of hull...I was hoping that she
may go to aroung 14-15kts without too much change in trim.The second
boat built in Aus is o/b powered,don't know motor size, but I hope to
make contact with the owner to see how she performs.Al.
'Open' is the natural state of my Bolger books Al, so no problem.
Of course I'm in NZ, otherwise I would never have rubbished you!
I'll pass on the home brew,
DonB
>
> Thanks Don,
> If you hapen to have 'the book' open , I will be pleased to have a
> copy of what 'the master' has to say about this design....I don't
> have a copy of the book but know many of the plans well.
> While Fosters is widely loved around the world, I fear that it is the
> potency of my home-brew that is the reason for my occasional rude
> message...I appologise to all my shipmates out there!
> btw...where is here?..NZ?
> Happy Long Tan Day mate.Al.
From memory Bolger specifys that "Hope" can do about 10.5 Knots or thereabouts with a 18 HP outboard, more power would result in more speed, but she may cock her bow in the air a bit and possibly throw a lot of spray, some of which will come inboard! For a faster and drier boat checkout "Seguin" a 15' 6'' x7' ? (takes a 60+ HP, but performs well with a 25HPf)rom the same "Small Boats" Book or as somebody said Bolger's "Shivaree" in 16', 18' and 21' versions with 7' Beam and 10.5" draft(Hull)
avsube <raburke@...> wrote:--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
> Yes Al, I know it, from Bolgers first book, Small Boats 1973.
> She looks a very able design, but I have never seen one, or
references
> to the design here.
> Have you seen the article and Bolgers description in the book?
> If you have not, I could scan and email it to you, if you can see
> through your fug of Fosters.
> DonB

Thanks Don,
If you hapen to have 'the book' open , I will be pleased to have a
copy of what 'the master' has to say about this design....I don't
have a copy of the book but know many of the plans well.
While Fosters is widely loved around the world, I fear that it is the
potency of my home-brew that is the reason for my occasional rude
message...I appologise to all my shipmates out there!
btw...where is here?..NZ?
Happy Long Tan Day mate.Al.



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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
> Yes Al, I know it, from Bolgers first book, Small Boats 1973.
> She looks a very able design, but I have never seen one, or
references
> to the design here.
> Have you seen the article and Bolgers description in the book?
> If you have not, I could scan and email it to you, if you can see
> through your fug of Fosters.
> DonB

Thanks Don,
If you hapen to have 'the book' open , I will be pleased to have a
copy of what 'the master' has to say about this design....I don't
have a copy of the book but know many of the plans well.
While Fosters is widely loved around the world, I fear that it is the
potency of my home-brew that is the reason for my occasional rude
message...I appologise to all my shipmates out there!
btw...where is here?..NZ?
Happy Long Tan Day mate.Al.
Yes Al, I know it, from Bolgers first book, Small Boats 1973.
She looks a very able design, but I have never seen one, or references
to the design here.
Have you seen the article and Bolgers description in the book?
If you have not, I could scan and email it to you, if you can see
through your fug of Fosters.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > Bolger ' Hope' plan # 258
>
> > Any REAL Bolger enthusiasts out there?...I live in hope...pun
> > intended!.
> >
> > Al Burke
>
> Pun accepted. With over 700 Bolger designs,
> there is plenty to be enthused about. I know
> of no 'Hope' built, and think that PB&F are more
> up on their design Shivaree, in this size/type.

Thanks Bruce,I have a photo of the original built in USA for a
lobsterman & will post it in my photo album..have pics too of one of
the Aus-built ones.Al.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bill and Carol Deane" <wfdeane@m...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> "Hasn't anyone seen this design?I know of 2 here in OZ, both done
in clinker rather than carvel as the plans show."
>
> Good Morning Al,
>
> It may be that the only two built are in Australia! :) Maybe
someone will pop up who has some info for you.
>
> Bill Deane
> North Carolina

Thanks Bill...I do have a photo of the original built in USA for a
lobsterman...will delete the plan I have in my photo album & post the
photo.Al.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@s...> wrote:
> Well, let's see. There's 1929 members this morning. I seem to
remember the
> number of Bolger designs as over 700. About three members per
design. If
> all 1929 were actually active, and all designs were equally popular
with the
> computer literate, then, you might have gotten two responses.
Brick and
> Chebacco and Micro probably skew the average considerably.
>
> I'd guess maybe you're it.
>
> Roger
> derbyrm@s...
> derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "avsube" <raburke@i...>
>
> > Have posted plan in photos section to see how many of you have
built
> > Bolger ' Hope' plan # 258, a lobster boat of 16'.A month ago I
posted
> > a request asking if anyone had built this plan & have received
> > complete silence!! I thought when joining this group I would be
> > flooded with replies from knowledgeable Bolger enthusiasts, but
alas,
> > none exist!! Seems that more of this plan have been built in
> > Australia than in the US of bloody A!! Hasn't anyone seen this
> > design?I know of 2 here in OZ, both done in clinker rather than
> > carvel as the plans show.
> >
> > Any REAL Bolger enthusiasts out there?...I live in hope...pun
> > intended!.
> >
> > Al Burke
> > Newcastle,Australia.

Thanks Rog....I do have a photo of the original built in USA for a
lobsterman & wiil post it in photo gallery after I delete the plan
that's there at the moment.Al.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
> Al baby, did you really want 2000 replies saying we have not built
or
> seen #258?
> DonB
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "avsube" <raburke@i...> wrote:
> > Have posted plan in photos section to see how many of you have
built
> > Bolger ' Hope' plan # 258, a lobster boat of 16'.A month ago I
posted
> > a request asking if anyone had built this plan & have received
> > complete silence!! I thought when joining this group I would be
> > flooded with replies from knowledgeable Bolger enthusiasts, but
alas,
> > none exist!! Seems that more of this plan have been built in
> > Australia than in the US of bloody A!! Hasn't anyone seen this
> > design?I know of 2 here in OZ, both done in clinker rather than
> > carvel as the plans show.
> >
> > Any REAL Bolger enthusiasts out there?...I live in hope...pun
> > intended!.
> >
> > Al Burke
> > Newcastle,Australia.

Don, old son,a Kiwi eh?...anyhow, nice to know someone has read my
polite request....on other forums, one in particular, the replies
flow thick & fast so I was expecting the same.Anyhow, do you know
this design?...I am after some real feedback from any builders of the
original plan.A wooden boatbuilder mate here in OZ has done two of
them, but modified with a small cabin & one with inboard diesel,and
both in lapstrake instead of strip plank...much more difficult than
strip plank with some severe curves up forrard.
I have a pic of the original & of one of the Aus-built ones but the
photo gallery will only allow me to post one pic at a time, even
though it says multiple photos can be uploaded as they automatically
re-size them??
Anyhow,I can only assume no one else has built one.
Thanks for replying.
Al Burke.
Al baby, did you really want 2000 replies saying we have not built or
seen #258?
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "avsube" <raburke@i...> wrote:
> Have posted plan in photos section to see how many of you have built
> Bolger ' Hope' plan # 258, a lobster boat of 16'.A month ago I posted
> a request asking if anyone had built this plan & have received
> complete silence!! I thought when joining this group I would be
> flooded with replies from knowledgeable Bolger enthusiasts, but alas,
> none exist!! Seems that more of this plan have been built in
> Australia than in the US of bloody A!! Hasn't anyone seen this
> design?I know of 2 here in OZ, both done in clinker rather than
> carvel as the plans show.
>
> Any REAL Bolger enthusiasts out there?...I live in hope...pun
> intended!.
>
> Al Burke
> Newcastle,Australia.
> Bolger ' Hope' plan # 258

> Any REAL Bolger enthusiasts out there?...I live in hope...pun
> intended!.
>
> Al Burke

Pun accepted. With over 700 Bolger designs,
there is plenty to be enthused about. I know
of no 'Hope' built, and think that PB&F are more
up on their design Shivaree, in this size/type.
"Hasn't anyone seen this design?I know of 2 here in OZ, both done in clinker rather than carvel as the plans show."

Good Morning Al,

It may be that the only two built are in Australia! :) Maybe someone will pop up who has some info for you.

Bill Deane
North Carolina



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Well, let's see. There's 1929 members this morning. I seem to remember the
number of Bolger designs as over 700. About three members per design. If
all 1929 were actually active, and all designs were equally popular with the
computer literate, then, you might have gotten two responses. Brick and
Chebacco and Micro probably skew the average considerably.

I'd guess maybe you're it.

Roger
derbyrm@...
derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "avsube" <raburke@...>

> Have posted plan in photos section to see how many of you have built
> Bolger ' Hope' plan # 258, a lobster boat of 16'.A month ago I posted
> a request asking if anyone had built this plan & have received
> complete silence!! I thought when joining this group I would be
> flooded with replies from knowledgeable Bolger enthusiasts, but alas,
> none exist!! Seems that more of this plan have been built in
> Australia than in the US of bloody A!! Hasn't anyone seen this
> design?I know of 2 here in OZ, both done in clinker rather than
> carvel as the plans show.
>
> Any REAL Bolger enthusiasts out there?...I live in hope...pun
> intended!.
>
> Al Burke
> Newcastle,Australia.
Have posted plan in photos section to see how many of you have built
Bolger ' Hope' plan # 258, a lobster boat of 16'.A month ago I posted
a request asking if anyone had built this plan & have received
complete silence!! I thought when joining this group I would be
flooded with replies from knowledgeable Bolger enthusiasts, but alas,
none exist!! Seems that more of this plan have been built in
Australia than in the US of bloody A!! Hasn't anyone seen this
design?I know of 2 here in OZ, both done in clinker rather than
carvel as the plans show.

Any REAL Bolger enthusiasts out there?...I live in hope...pun
intended!.

Al Burke
Newcastle,Australia.