Cynthia J wasRe: [bolger]

I never capsized mine, nor swamped it, but it would a
> be a bad day.

Peter,

Tony Groves capsized his Cynthia J. and was not able to right it
alone. The park rangers came to his rescue on the lake he was
sailing. By the time he got back to the launching ramp he was
seriously hypothermic.

Reed
> I like that thing but it needs some floatation chambers ala' af3.

I think so too. I never capsized mine, nor swamped it, but it would a
be a bad day. Bolger agreed, of course. The original plan has foam
under the seats and in front of the mast. I bought a "ingot" of foam.
I was going to put a length vertically against each side between the
windows but I never go around to it. I did not do any calculation,
but even 100lbs of flotation would help a lot.

Peter
There are also some building shots in bolger 2 files section and a
scan from a csd catalouge.

I like that thing but it needs some floatation chambers ala' af3.

Jason
> Peter Vanderwaart used to have one.
> He's written about the boat on more than one occasion here.

See Files in this group (Bolger).

Peter
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Spoering" <spoering@e...> wrote:
> Hi John --- Thanks , --- I'll check out Peters' messages --
Aloha -
> Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale
>
Hey Jack,

There are some photos in the Files section of Bolger2.

I forget the name of the builder due to a sudden senior moment. Would
be nice to get some updates about it.

Didn't Hugo Tyson build one as well?

Cheers, Nels
Hi John --- Thanks , --- I'll check out Peters' messages -- Aloha -
Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale


> [Original Message]
> From: John Bell <smallboatdesigner@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 8/22/2004 11:35:05 AM
> Subject: Cynthia J wasRe: [bolger] Re: Yamaha Outboards
>
> Peter Vanderwaart used to have one. He's written about the boat on more
than
> one occasion here. A search of the archives should find the messages.
>
> JB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Spoering" <spoering@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>; <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Yamaha Outboards
>
>
> | Hi All -
> |
> | I wonder if any of the group has had cooling problems with the Yamaha
> | ???? My son & I both use Yamaha 9.9's in salt water and the
cooling
> | system is constantly clogging up with salt deposits. I'm told that
Yamaha
> | uses a very narrow tube in their cooling line, much smaller than what
> | previously was the norm. The problem is so acute that we've taken to
> | carry a jug of vinigar with us to flush out the motor.
> | This works very well but is a nusiance.
> | P.S. - Anyone built a "Cynthia J"
> | Aoha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale
> |
> |
> |
> | > [Original Message]
> | > From: Robert Paquette <robertpaquette@...>
> | > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> | > Date: 8/21/2004 2:11:42 PM
> | > Subject: [bolger] Re: Yamaha Outboards
> | >
> | >
> | > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
> | >
> | > > I already have a 5 HP Merc and you are right about it having enough
> | > > power for a Micro and the weight is really handy. I was looking at
> | > > getting one with an alternator and it seems you have to get about an
> | > > 8HP for that.
> | > > Cheers, Nels
> | >
> | > I have an Edel 540 (17' 8") sloop (with gear, it must weight around
1500
> | lbs). I bought a 2003, 4 cycle, 4 HP Mercury, for it this spring. I
> | purchased the optional lighting coil. When I went on my first cruise in
> | the Thousand Islands (east end of lake Ontario), I measured the voltage
> | output, and the most I was getting at my cruising speed (5 knots) was
8.5
> | volts. On the throtle handle, cruising speed was just above the notch
> | where you start the engine. I have no way of measuring the RPM but it
was
> | way too low to achieve 12 volt battery charging voltage. I would guess
> | about half throtle. At this point, I also determined the motor was way
> | over powered for my Edel. I knew I needed more charging voltage if I
was
> | going to go on a two week cruise in the North Channel of Lake Huron in
> | July. When I checked the circuitry of the charger, I saw that Mercury
> | (Tohatsu(?)) was using a simple rectifier. I was losing half the
charging
> | pulse. I bypassed the rectifer with a full-wave bridge rectifier and
then
> | did some tests with the motor in a garbage pail. With the throttle at
my
> | cruising speed, I was getting over 16 volts. I connected a 12 volt lamp
> to
> | the output and measured 2 amps. As it turns out, I had also retired my
> old
> | 12V battery and bought a new one at Costco. A couple of years ago I had
> | bought a 15 watt solar panel with a 7 amp three stage regulator
> | manufactured by the same company. The panel was 160 CDN$ and the
charger
> | was 50 CDN$. I decided to bring the panel along for the cruise. I had
> | intended to use the regulator for the output of the Mercury as well as
the
> | solar panel. As it turns out, I never needed the output of the Mercury!
> | The solar panel provided all the power I needed. I'm really baffled by
> | this. Mind you, we had two weeks of beautiful sunshine. My electrical
> | requirements were, a Raymarine autopilot (which I used constantly), a
> | handheld VHF radio that outputs 5 watts, a Garmin 45 GPS, a depth
finder
> | which I use intermittently, a bulkhead mounted knotlog meter, and a 12V
> | cabin light for about two hours a night. And that's what I learned
about
> | solar panels and 12 volt generating coils on outboards. Also, a fellow
> | trailer sailor let me try his 2 HP Honda from his tender. I was
surprise
> | at how easily it pushed my Edel. I wondered if I would have been better
> | off with that motor. It sure would be lighter on the stern of the boat.
> | Previously, I had a 1979, 2 cycle, 4.5 horsepower Mercury; it was noisy,
> | poor fuel economy, underpowered, and heavy. Mind you the new Mercury is
> | quieter, very good fuel economy, no oil mixing, lots of power, but alas,
> | just as heavy.
> | >
> | > Robert, Edel 540, Niagara Falls
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > Bolger rules!!!
> | > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> | > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> | > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> | > - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
> Fax:
> | (978) 282-1349
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> | > - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> | > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> |
> | Bolger rules!!!
> | - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> | - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> | - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> | - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax:
> (978) 282-1349
> | - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> | - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> | Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
(978) 282-1349
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>
Peter Vanderwaart used to have one. He's written about the boat on more than
one occasion here. A search of the archives should find the messages.

JB


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Spoering" <spoering@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>; <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Yamaha Outboards


| Hi All -
|
| I wonder if any of the group has had cooling problems with the Yamaha
| ???? My son & I both use Yamaha 9.9's in salt water and the cooling
| system is constantly clogging up with salt deposits. I'm told that Yamaha
| uses a very narrow tube in their cooling line, much smaller than what
| previously was the norm. The problem is so acute that we've taken to
| carry a jug of vinigar with us to flush out the motor.
| This works very well but is a nusiance.
| P.S. - Anyone built a "Cynthia J"
| Aoha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale
|
|
|
| > [Original Message]
| > From: Robert Paquette <robertpaquette@...>
| > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
| > Date: 8/21/2004 2:11:42 PM
| > Subject: [bolger] Re: Yamaha Outboards
| >
| >
| > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
| >
| > > I already have a 5 HP Merc and you are right about it having enough
| > > power for a Micro and the weight is really handy. I was looking at
| > > getting one with an alternator and it seems you have to get about an
| > > 8HP for that.
| > > Cheers, Nels
| >
| > I have an Edel 540 (17' 8") sloop (with gear, it must weight around 1500
| lbs). I bought a 2003, 4 cycle, 4 HP Mercury, for it this spring. I
| purchased the optional lighting coil. When I went on my first cruise in
| the Thousand Islands (east end of lake Ontario), I measured the voltage
| output, and the most I was getting at my cruising speed (5 knots) was 8.5
| volts. On the throtle handle, cruising speed was just above the notch
| where you start the engine. I have no way of measuring the RPM but it was
| way too low to achieve 12 volt battery charging voltage. I would guess
| about half throtle. At this point, I also determined the motor was way
| over powered for my Edel. I knew I needed more charging voltage if I was
| going to go on a two week cruise in the North Channel of Lake Huron in
| July. When I checked the circuitry of the charger, I saw that Mercury
| (Tohatsu(?)) was using a simple rectifier. I was losing half the charging
| pulse. I bypassed the rectifer with a full-wave bridge rectifier and then
| did some tests with the motor in a garbage pail. With the throttle at my
| cruising speed, I was getting over 16 volts. I connected a 12 volt lamp
to
| the output and measured 2 amps. As it turns out, I had also retired my
old
| 12V battery and bought a new one at Costco. A couple of years ago I had
| bought a 15 watt solar panel with a 7 amp three stage regulator
| manufactured by the same company. The panel was 160 CDN$ and the charger
| was 50 CDN$. I decided to bring the panel along for the cruise. I had
| intended to use the regulator for the output of the Mercury as well as the
| solar panel. As it turns out, I never needed the output of the Mercury!
| The solar panel provided all the power I needed. I'm really baffled by
| this. Mind you, we had two weeks of beautiful sunshine. My electrical
| requirements were, a Raymarine autopilot (which I used constantly), a
| handheld VHF radio that outputs 5 watts, a Garmin 45 GPS, a depth finder
| which I use intermittently, a bulkhead mounted knotlog meter, and a 12V
| cabin light for about two hours a night. And that's what I learned about
| solar panels and 12 volt generating coils on outboards. Also, a fellow
| trailer sailor let me try his 2 HP Honda from his tender. I was surprise
| at how easily it pushed my Edel. I wondered if I would have been better
| off with that motor. It sure would be lighter on the stern of the boat.
| Previously, I had a 1979, 2 cycle, 4.5 horsepower Mercury; it was noisy,
| poor fuel economy, underpowered, and heavy. Mind you the new Mercury is
| quieter, very good fuel economy, no oil mixing, lots of power, but alas,
| just as heavy.
| >
| > Robert, Edel 540, Niagara Falls
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > Bolger rules!!!
| > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
| > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
| > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
| > - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax:
| (978) 282-1349
| > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
| > - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
| > Yahoo! Groups Links
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Bolger rules!!!
| - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
| - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
| - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
| - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
(978) 282-1349
| - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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| Yahoo! Groups Links
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