Re: cheap row boat?
"thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise."
My suggestion is, that shortly after rowing a few times in your brand
new cheap row boat, you will begin to long for a good row boat!
The difference in cost between any 13' to 16' boat is minimal, as all
use two sheets for the sides and about the same amount of glue,
lumber paint, etc.
I love rowing my Seagull, its speed, stability, capacity and
seaworthiness are outstanding. Looks great too. Also rows well with
one or two extra crew on board.
The Sport Dory is great also, but I'd like to add fixed seats and
floatation chambers. Lake Ontario gets kinda big some times.
Have fun building, then have a ball rowing.
Strangers even talk with you as you row by.
Bruce Hector
My suggestion is, that shortly after rowing a few times in your brand
new cheap row boat, you will begin to long for a good row boat!
The difference in cost between any 13' to 16' boat is minimal, as all
use two sheets for the sides and about the same amount of glue,
lumber paint, etc.
I love rowing my Seagull, its speed, stability, capacity and
seaworthiness are outstanding. Looks great too. Also rows well with
one or two extra crew on board.
The Sport Dory is great also, but I'd like to add fixed seats and
floatation chambers. Lake Ontario gets kinda big some times.
Have fun building, then have a ball rowing.
Strangers even talk with you as you row by.
Bruce Hector
Jason Stancil wrote:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/row/l.jpg
http://hallman.org/bolger/spur/
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/hour56/
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/hour68/
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/row/
Not that hard to build, I recall it took my
spare time over a three week period to build.
The plywood lap strake method, while it looks
tedious is actually easier, in a way, than taped
seams of plywood panels.
Because, the tolerances for each individual piece
is very forgiving.
Worth mentioning; that Spur II is one of the
boats that Phil Bolger chooses to personally
own and use, too.
> thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise.The obvious first choice would be a Spur II in my opinion :)
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/row/l.jpg
http://hallman.org/bolger/spur/
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/hour56/
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/hour68/
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/row/
Not that hard to build, I recall it took my
spare time over a three week period to build.
The plywood lap strake method, while it looks
tedious is actually easier, in a way, than taped
seams of plywood panels.
Because, the tolerances for each individual piece
is very forgiving.
Worth mentioning; that Spur II is one of the
boats that Phil Bolger chooses to personally
own and use, too.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, cha62759@t... wrote:
Just a reminder, Don't forget the chine runners, and a little window
blind lugsail, just in case you decide you had a enough exercise for
one day:o)
> -TealJason,
>
> Bob Chamberland
>
Just a reminder, Don't forget the chine runners, and a little window
blind lugsail, just in case you decide you had a enough exercise for
one day:o)
-Teal
Bob Chamberland
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h...> wrote:
Bob Chamberland
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h...> wrote:
> thinking of building a cheap rowboat snip
My Gull isn't properly outfiitted for a crowd, so I've taken the Teal
out with wife, daughter and dog (~450lbs total) for leisurely outings
on the lake. If you're not pulling too hard, she's nearly as good as a
Gull. But once you put your back into it, the difference is obvious –
the Gull is the faster boat.
In the surf zone there's no comparison. The rocker, flair, and speed of
the Gull make it a far better boat.
YIBB,
David
out with wife, daughter and dog (~450lbs total) for leisurely outings
on the lake. If you're not pulling too hard, she's nearly as good as a
Gull. But once you put your back into it, the difference is obvious –
the Gull is the faster boat.
In the surf zone there's no comparison. The rocker, flair, and speed of
the Gull make it a far better boat.
YIBB,
David
On Saturday, August 28, 2004, at 11:39 AM, Nels wrote:
>> of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise.
>
> TEAL?
>
>http://www.instantboats.com/teal.htm
>
How about an Elegant Punt? Simple and easy to build. I have one I
started on Monday, and am 75% finished after 15 hours. Pictures can
be found at
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolgeroldshoe/lst?.dir=/Elegant+P
unt&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/
I built mine for hauling in the pickup when towing the travel trailer
to a "wet" campground (one with a lake). It drives me crazy to be
near the water and not on it.
The E.P. plans can be had for $30.00 or free from the original
book "Instant Boats" if your eyes are good (really small printing.
My two cents.
Jon Freeman
Kent, WA
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h...>
wrote:
started on Monday, and am 75% finished after 15 hours. Pictures can
be found at
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolgeroldshoe/lst?.dir=/Elegant+P
unt&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/
I built mine for hauling in the pickup when towing the travel trailer
to a "wet" campground (one with a lake). It drives me crazy to be
near the water and not on it.
The E.P. plans can be had for $30.00 or free from the original
book "Instant Boats" if your eyes are good (really small printing.
My two cents.
Jon Freeman
Kent, WA
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h...>
wrote:
> thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise. It will beneeded.
> used on a slow moving river, upsream as well as down so it needs to
> have a bit of speed but rough water capability is not really
> Stability is not much of a issue either as i used to spend time ina
> scull and raced kayaks for years. 200 pounds of capacity would be
> fine. There are alot of nice multi chineboats available but a
> quicker leaner junbug would be ideal for cheap fast and dirty
> building. Looking at maybe designing my own along the lines of a
> peero or j. bug? Any suggestions?
> Jason
You can probably build from the book, (which costs less than the
plans), but you probably have a) learned enough already to forgo the
book. b) developments since the book's publication have made some of
the techniques described obsolete. c) have access to a wealth of
firsthand experience here d) can much more easily take unspecified
measurements off the full sized plans. e) should really pay the
designer the hull fee. The plans are about $35; obviously if you order
them direct from PCB&F then more of your money goes towards
subsidizing the work they're doing on my boat!
However you go about getting the boat together, I assure you you won't
regret it. She's a lively performer as a pulling boat, stable enough to
fish out of, will take care of you even in rather intimidating
conditions, and elegant to behold. Even as roughly as I finished mine,
I get all sorts of compliments where ever I go.
YIBB,
David
plans), but you probably have a) learned enough already to forgo the
book. b) developments since the book's publication have made some of
the techniques described obsolete. c) have access to a wealth of
firsthand experience here d) can much more easily take unspecified
measurements off the full sized plans. e) should really pay the
designer the hull fee. The plans are about $35; obviously if you order
them direct from PCB&F then more of your money goes towards
subsidizing the work they're doing on my boat!
However you go about getting the boat together, I assure you you won't
regret it. She's a lively performer as a pulling boat, stable enough to
fish out of, will take care of you even in rather intimidating
conditions, and elegant to behold. Even as roughly as I finished mine,
I get all sorts of compliments where ever I go.
YIBB,
David
>
> How much are the plans?.......i think the book is 25 with the little
> blue prints.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@h...>
wrote:
http://www.instantboats.com/teal.htm
wrote:
> thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise.TEAL?
http://www.instantboats.com/teal.htm
David's number parallel my experience with my Sportdory. Like my old
Sportdory, Gull has a beam of 48" at the wales and is 24" across the bottom.
Sportdory, Gull has a beam of 48" at the wales and is 24" across the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: cheap row boat?
|
| > Comparable Effort Speed
| >
| > Strolling 3 knots
| > Brisk Walk 3.5 knots
| > Jogging 4 knots
| > Running 5 knots
| > Sprinting 5.5 knots
|
| David-
| Thanks for the stats! Ballpark of the gunnel width at center and the
| bottom panel? and maybe the beam at water line?
|
| How much are the plans?.......i think the book is 25 with the little
| blue prints.
|
| Thanks,
| Jason
|
|
|
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> Comparable Effort SpeedDavid-
>
> Strolling 3 knots
> Brisk Walk 3.5 knots
> Jogging 4 knots
> Running 5 knots
> Sprinting 5.5 knots
Thanks for the stats! Ballpark of the gunnel width at center and the
bottom panel? and maybe the beam at water line?
How much are the plans?.......i think the book is 25 with the little
blue prints.
Thanks,
Jason
Some performance "stats" for my dory in the ocean with a 1-2 foot
swell. Testing conditions were not stringent, but speed was determined
by GPS.
I weight about 190 lbs
The dory, built as spec'd in previous e-mail, weighs about 60-80lbs
I use 7' hardware store oars.
Comparable Effort Speed
Strolling 3 knots
Brisk Walk 3.5 knots
Jogging 4 knots
Running 5 knots
Sprinting 5.5 knots
If you've got to buck a 2-3 knot current, I'd say you'll get a nice
workout in the Gull. The Junebug is a little longer, but has to drag a
square stern; I'd guess it's a wash between the two. I can't imagine
you can build a Junebug any lighter than you can build a Light Dory,
but you can sail a Junebug, so maybe that's more boat for the money.
YIBB,
David
swell. Testing conditions were not stringent, but speed was determined
by GPS.
I weight about 190 lbs
The dory, built as spec'd in previous e-mail, weighs about 60-80lbs
I use 7' hardware store oars.
Comparable Effort Speed
Strolling 3 knots
Brisk Walk 3.5 knots
Jogging 4 knots
Running 5 knots
Sprinting 5.5 knots
If you've got to buck a 2-3 knot current, I'd say you'll get a nice
workout in the Gull. The Junebug is a little longer, but has to drag a
square stern; I'd guess it's a wash between the two. I can't imagine
you can build a Junebug any lighter than you can build a Light Dory,
but you can sail a Junebug, so maybe that's more boat for the money.
YIBB,
David
On Saturday, August 28, 2004, at 10:05 AM, Jason Stancil wrote:
> Anyone want to elaborate on there
> performance?........i'm looking at 40 minutes upstream and 20 coming
> back just want to be able to keep a moderate cadence, i'm not racing
> anyone.
"Anyone spent some time rowing a june bug?.....seems a bit wide and
heafty but i could strip it to the bare min. including freeboard as
i'm not sailing it."
Yes. The June Bug's OK for rowing, but doesn't fly like a light dory ( - I've rowed both). Still, you'd probably find it fits your requirements.
Bill
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heafty but i could strip it to the bare min. including freeboard as
i'm not sailing it."
Yes. The June Bug's OK for rowing, but doesn't fly like a light dory ( - I've rowed both). Still, you'd probably find it fits your requirements.
Bill
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Thanks for everyones help. Let me add.
I like the little dories.....bolger's light dory, welsford seagull
and jim m's version what ever it is called. These boat seem a bit
heafty for throwing on the roof rack and seem to sacrifice a bit of
go for tolerating blow. Anyone want to elaborate on there
performance?........i'm looking at 40 minutes upstream and 20 coming
back just want to be able to keep a moderate cadence, i'm not racing
anyone.
Bell's little tender looks neat but i need something long enough
that it won't bog in it's on waves as i have to beat a 2-3 knot
current to get upstream.
I like Jim's Oracle and some other multichines....but i want this to
be a weekend project relatively epoxy and glass free.
Anyone spent some time rowing a june bug?.....seems a bit wide and
heafty but i could strip it to the bare min. including freeboard as
i'm not sailing it.
Thanks again,
Jason
I like the little dories.....bolger's light dory, welsford seagull
and jim m's version what ever it is called. These boat seem a bit
heafty for throwing on the roof rack and seem to sacrifice a bit of
go for tolerating blow. Anyone want to elaborate on there
performance?........i'm looking at 40 minutes upstream and 20 coming
back just want to be able to keep a moderate cadence, i'm not racing
anyone.
Bell's little tender looks neat but i need something long enough
that it won't bog in it's on waves as i have to beat a 2-3 knot
current to get upstream.
I like Jim's Oracle and some other multichines....but i want this to
be a weekend project relatively epoxy and glass free.
Anyone spent some time rowing a june bug?.....seems a bit wide and
heafty but i could strip it to the bare min. including freeboard as
i'm not sailing it.
Thanks again,
Jason
While I appreciate the plug, I'll have to say that Blondie would be not be
my first choice for an exercise boat. It's just too short to be satisfying
under oars.
I'll second the notion that a dory is the way to go. I had a 15' Michalak
dory that was a very fast and fun boat to row. PCB's Light Dory is always a
good choice. I'm also fond of Jim Michalak's v-bottom rowboats like Vireo
and Oracle.
I've got a new 14' dory design that I'm releasing to the public in an
upcoming issue of MAIB. Watch your mailbox in October.
John Bell
my first choice for an exercise boat. It's just too short to be satisfying
under oars.
I'll second the notion that a dory is the way to go. I had a 15' Michalak
dory that was a very fast and fun boat to row. PCB's Light Dory is always a
good choice. I'm also fond of Jim Michalak's v-bottom rowboats like Vireo
and Oracle.
I've got a new 14' dory design that I'm releasing to the public in an
upcoming issue of MAIB. Watch your mailbox in October.
John Bell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Badenoch" <robinbadenoch@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] cheap row boat?
| Jason,
| Try this one called Blondie by John Bell free plan and all .....
http://www.mindspring.com/~jmbell/blondie.htm
|
|
I'll second the nomination for the Light Dory!
The ladder frame can be built in about an hour or two at a cost of
$20-$30. Using the Ryan/Davis variation you can get the entire hull out
of 3 sheets of (1/4" luan) plywood (no chinelogs or stem!) , and have
enough left over for the transon and middle seat (leave out the forward
and aft seat to keep her light and cheap!) If you're good with epoxy,
you can do all the gluing, filletting, and glassing with about 1 1/2
gallons of resin (leave the inside bare for the sake of labor, cost,
and lightness.) Buy a bucket of Benjamin Moore Urethane Formulation
Porch and Floor Paint ($33/gallon) and you'll have enough left over to
keep her looking fine for years to come.
BTW: My turn to brag about the PCB&F reaction to my dory. I brought
photos of our boats to Gloucester. My read is that Phil and Suzanne we
initially skeptical of my Gull's barely finished state and absences of
some structural elements. But I think they came around when I explained
that she was built "All for the sake of lightness and thrift. The first
to make her handy on and off the car, and nimble through the impact
zone; and the second to make her (somewhat inevitable) loss less
painful." I got nicely raised eyebrows of surprise and/or approbation
when I told them my Gull weighs well under 100 lbs!
If I were building her again, I might use 1/4" ACX instead of luan. I
think she'd be a little tougher without adding much more weight or cost.
YIBB,
David
The ladder frame can be built in about an hour or two at a cost of
$20-$30. Using the Ryan/Davis variation you can get the entire hull out
of 3 sheets of (1/4" luan) plywood (no chinelogs or stem!) , and have
enough left over for the transon and middle seat (leave out the forward
and aft seat to keep her light and cheap!) If you're good with epoxy,
you can do all the gluing, filletting, and glassing with about 1 1/2
gallons of resin (leave the inside bare for the sake of labor, cost,
and lightness.) Buy a bucket of Benjamin Moore Urethane Formulation
Porch and Floor Paint ($33/gallon) and you'll have enough left over to
keep her looking fine for years to come.
BTW: My turn to brag about the PCB&F reaction to my dory. I brought
photos of our boats to Gloucester. My read is that Phil and Suzanne we
initially skeptical of my Gull's barely finished state and absences of
some structural elements. But I think they came around when I explained
that she was built "All for the sake of lightness and thrift. The first
to make her handy on and off the car, and nimble through the impact
zone; and the second to make her (somewhat inevitable) loss less
painful." I got nicely raised eyebrows of surprise and/or approbation
when I told them my Gull weighs well under 100 lbs!
If I were building her again, I might use 1/4" ACX instead of luan. I
think she'd be a little tougher without adding much more weight or cost.
YIBB,
David
On Saturday, August 28, 2004, at 08:22 AM, John B. Trussell wrote:
> Jason--There are a ton of choices out there. Bolger's light dory (or
> any one of the variations--Michalak and Welford offer stitch and glue
> versions), the Weekend Skiff, Michalak's version of Pete Culler's
> Otter (which is too tiddly for me, but as an ex kayaker, perhaps not
> for you), or any of half a dozen skiffs would work for you. If you
> want to get a little more complicated, Oughtred's Elf is gorgeous and
> the Herreshoff row boat (either the version drawn by John Gardner or
> Michalik's stitch and glue version) are fine boats.
>
> John T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jason Stancil
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:29 PM
> Subject: [bolger] cheap row boat?
>
>
> thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise. It will be
> used on a slow moving river, upsream as well as down so it needs to
> have a bit of speed but rough water capability is not really needed.
> Stability is not much of a issue either as i used to spend time in a
> scull and raced kayaks for years. 200 pounds of capacity would be
> fine. There are alot of nice multi chineboats available but a
> quicker leaner junbug would be ideal for cheap fast and dirty
> building. Looking at maybe designing my own along the lines of a
> peero or j. bug? Any suggestions?
> Jason
>
>
>
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Jason,
Try this one called Blondie by John Bell free plan and all .....http://www.mindspring.com/~jmbell/blondie.htm
Rob B
Try this one called Blondie by John Bell free plan and all .....http://www.mindspring.com/~jmbell/blondie.htm
Rob B
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From: Jason Stancil
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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: [bolger] cheap row boat?
thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise. It will be
used on a slow moving river, upsream as well as down so it needs to
have a bit of speed but rough water capability is not really needed.
Stability is not much of a issue either as i used to spend time in a
scull and raced kayaks for years. 200 pounds of capacity would be
fine. There are alot of nice multi chineboats available but a
quicker leaner junbug would be ideal for cheap fast and dirty
building. Looking at maybe designing my own along the lines of a
peero or j. bug? Any suggestions?
Jason
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Jason--There are a ton of choices out there. Bolger's light dory (or any one of the variations--Michalak and Welford offer stitch and glue versions), the Weekend Skiff, Michalak's version of Pete Culler's Otter (which is too tiddly for me, but as an ex kayaker, perhaps not for you), or any of half a dozen skiffs would work for you. If you want to get a little more complicated, Oughtred's Elf is gorgeous and the Herreshoff row boat (either the version drawn by John Gardner or Michalik's stitch and glue version) are fine boats.
John T
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Stancil
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:29 PM
Subject: [bolger] cheap row boat?
thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise. It will be
used on a slow moving river, upsream as well as down so it needs to
have a bit of speed but rough water capability is not really needed.
Stability is not much of a issue either as i used to spend time in a
scull and raced kayaks for years. 200 pounds of capacity would be
fine. There are alot of nice multi chineboats available but a
quicker leaner junbug would be ideal for cheap fast and dirty
building. Looking at maybe designing my own along the lines of a
peero or j. bug? Any suggestions?
Jason
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thinking of building a cheap rowboat for some exercise. It will be
used on a slow moving river, upsream as well as down so it needs to
have a bit of speed but rough water capability is not really needed.
Stability is not much of a issue either as i used to spend time in a
scull and raced kayaks for years. 200 pounds of capacity would be
fine. There are alot of nice multi chineboats available but a
quicker leaner junbug would be ideal for cheap fast and dirty
building. Looking at maybe designing my own along the lines of a
peero or j. bug? Any suggestions?
Jason
used on a slow moving river, upsream as well as down so it needs to
have a bit of speed but rough water capability is not really needed.
Stability is not much of a issue either as i used to spend time in a
scull and raced kayaks for years. 200 pounds of capacity would be
fine. There are alot of nice multi chineboats available but a
quicker leaner junbug would be ideal for cheap fast and dirty
building. Looking at maybe designing my own along the lines of a
peero or j. bug? Any suggestions?
Jason