Re: Big pram?
Yes, we still have Tetard. It made an appearance at the messabout in
Kingston, Ontario last year, where it demonstrated great capacity. Had 4
adults on board at one time. Janet is having a moratorium on sailing,
but I'm not worried because she had one on driving a stick shift a while
back but now shifts with aplomb. Anticipating the same with sailing.
I recall seeing a large pram at www.bateau.com
Kingston, Ontario last year, where it demonstrated great capacity. Had 4
adults on board at one time. Janet is having a moratorium on sailing,
but I'm not worried because she had one on driving a stick shift a while
back but now shifts with aplomb. Anticipating the same with sailing.
I recall seeing a large pram at www.bateau.com
>Matthew Long wrote:sippage
>
>Greetings all!
>
>I used to be pretty active in this group, but it's been a while.
>(Lincoln, do you still have "Tetard"?).
>
>I am thinking of tackling a new boat project (Brick, Yellow Leaf,
>June Bug and Tortoise built to date) and would like a big sailing
>pram for family-style Swallows & Amazons adventures with my wife and
>two small boys.
>
FWIW, Rob, Bolger did draw up a "Giant Nymph" scaled up to a two-sheet
length, but abandoned the idea before finishing the plans. There was a write
up about it in MAIB some time back. Twin bilgeboards and a Lateen rig. I
found the boat cartooned to be attractive, personally, but Bolger felt
[IIRC] that the accomodations would be impracticable.
cheers
Derek
length, but abandoned the idea before finishing the plans. There was a write
up about it in MAIB some time back. Twin bilgeboards and a Lateen rig. I
found the boat cartooned to be attractive, personally, but Bolger felt
[IIRC] that the accomodations would be impracticable.
cheers
Derek
> so it amounted to a giant _Nymph_ with cruising accomodations.Just
> think of it! (On the other hand, the fussier original constructionI thought about building a stretch rueben's nymph.....evidently
> would yield more compliments from the folks in the Hinkleys!)
there is an article out there were bolger discussed designing a camp
cruiser based on the nymph hull form. Would be much simpler than a
j. beach cruiser..........however i think the j. beach cruiser is
beautiful.
jason
Matthew:
I am the one who asked about the Japanese Beach Cruiser, and I am
actually toying with the idea of of writing to the man himself and
asking whether he has considered designing a "stretched" version,
say...15' 6" LOA. I'd bet that the general shape of the pram would
lend itself to being simplified to "instant boat" style construction,
so it amounted to a giant _Nymph_ with cruising accomodations. Just
think of it! (On the other hand, the fussier original construction
would yield more compliments from the folks in the Hinkleys!)
Rob Hazard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Trussell"
<John.Trussell@w...> wrote:
120centimeters by 240 centimeters. A plank length of 8 ft or 2.4
meters is the most you can get out of a single sheet, and this limits
you to a 7 ft 6 inch or 2.25 meter boat (examples are the small
pram "Wooden Boat" sells and John Wellsford's Sherpa). A longer boat
requires that you splice two sheets together, and once you do that,
you can get boats around 12 ft long or 3.6 meters from a one and a
half sheet plank. And 2 full sheets will allow a 15 to 16 foot or
around 4.8 meter boat.
which can be reviewed on line at www.duckworks.com. A San Farancisco
Pelican is a wonderful boat (you can see one in action in the movie
Summer Vacation), but requires an extensive ladder frame building
form. You have a lot of choices, and your biggest problem will be to
make up your mind on a design.
I am the one who asked about the Japanese Beach Cruiser, and I am
actually toying with the idea of of writing to the man himself and
asking whether he has considered designing a "stretched" version,
say...15' 6" LOA. I'd bet that the general shape of the pram would
lend itself to being simplified to "instant boat" style construction,
so it amounted to a giant _Nymph_ with cruising accomodations. Just
think of it! (On the other hand, the fussier original construction
would yield more compliments from the folks in the Hinkleys!)
Rob Hazard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Trussell"
<John.Trussell@w...> wrote:
> Mathew--A consideration in selecting pram size is the limitationimposed by a standard sheet of plywood which is 4 ft by 8 ft or about
120centimeters by 240 centimeters. A plank length of 8 ft or 2.4
meters is the most you can get out of a single sheet, and this limits
you to a 7 ft 6 inch or 2.25 meter boat (examples are the small
pram "Wooden Boat" sells and John Wellsford's Sherpa). A longer boat
requires that you splice two sheets together, and once you do that,
you can get boats around 12 ft long or 3.6 meters from a one and a
half sheet plank. And 2 full sheets will allow a 15 to 16 foot or
around 4.8 meter boat.
>Open Mind. Jim Michalak and John Wellsford also have several plans
> Bolger has several prams including an Auray Punt from Boats with an
which can be reviewed on line at www.duckworks.com. A San Farancisco
Pelican is a wonderful boat (you can see one in action in the movie
Summer Vacation), but requires an extensive ladder frame building
form. You have a lot of choices, and your biggest problem will be to
make up your mind on a design.
>and
> John T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: The Peillet-Long Family
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:44 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Big pram?
>
>
> Greetings all!
>
> I used to be pretty active in this group, but it's been a while.
> (Lincoln, do you still have "Tetard"?).
>
> I am thinking of tackling a new boat project (Brick, Yellow Leaf,
> June Bug and Tortoise built to date) and would like a big sailing
> pram for family-style Swallows & Amazons adventures with my wife
> two small boys. Someone recently asked about Japanese BeachCruiser,
> which I've alwasys liked, but it seems a bit complex for my needs.work
>
> Iain Oughtred has the Granny pram, 9' 4" x 4' 1", which would
> for now while the boys are small (age 5 and 1) but one thing I'veboat
> noticed about kids--they grow. So I think I'd better size the
> for four adults, to allow for kids growing in size and/or numbers.my
>
> Does anyone know of a Bolger or other design for a large sailing
> pram, say 12', suitable for carrying four adultskids? Simple
> building, simple sail plan would be best, but I am willing to try
> hand at strip building or clinker plywood.posts
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> Luxembourg City, Luxembourg
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Mathew--A consideration in selecting pram size is the limitation imposed by a standard sheet of plywood which is 4 ft by 8 ft or about 120centimeters by 240 centimeters. A plank length of 8 ft or 2.4 meters is the most you can get out of a single sheet, and this limits you to a 7 ft 6 inch or 2.25 meter boat (examples are the small pram "Wooden Boat" sells and John Wellsford's Sherpa). A longer boat requires that you splice two sheets together, and once you do that, you can get boats around 12 ft long or 3.6 meters from a one and a half sheet plank. And 2 full sheets will allow a 15 to 16 foot or around 4.8 meter boat.
Bolger has several prams including an Auray Punt from Boats with an Open Mind. Jim Michalak and John Wellsford also have several plans which can be reviewed on line at www.duckworks.com. A San Farancisco Pelican is a wonderful boat (you can see one in action in the movie Summer Vacation), but requires an extensive ladder frame building form. You have a lot of choices, and your biggest problem will be to make up your mind on a design.
John T
Bolger has several prams including an Auray Punt from Boats with an Open Mind. Jim Michalak and John Wellsford also have several plans which can be reviewed on line at www.duckworks.com. A San Farancisco Pelican is a wonderful boat (you can see one in action in the movie Summer Vacation), but requires an extensive ladder frame building form. You have a lot of choices, and your biggest problem will be to make up your mind on a design.
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: The Peillet-Long Family
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:44 AM
Subject: [bolger] Big pram?
Greetings all!
I used to be pretty active in this group, but it's been a while.
(Lincoln, do you still have "Tetard"?).
I am thinking of tackling a new boat project (Brick, Yellow Leaf,
June Bug and Tortoise built to date) and would like a big sailing
pram for family-style Swallows & Amazons adventures with my wife and
two small boys. Someone recently asked about Japanese Beach Cruiser,
which I've alwasys liked, but it seems a bit complex for my needs.
Iain Oughtred has the Granny pram, 9' 4" x 4' 1", which would work
for now while the boys are small (age 5 and 1) but one thing I've
noticed about kids--they grow. So I think I'd better size the boat
for four adults, to allow for kids growing in size and/or numbers.
Does anyone know of a Bolger or other design for a large sailing
pram, say 12', suitable for carrying four adultskids? Simple
building, simple sail plan would be best, but I am willing to try my
hand at strip building or clinker plywood.
Cheers,
Matthew
Luxembourg City, Luxembourg
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As the part-designer, builder and owner of a 14'6" by nearly 7' non-
sailing pram, I share the enthusiam for these big simple flat-
bottomed designs. I'd like to build one something like 21' x' 10'
that I could live aboard.
If you think a 12' pram is a bit small, remember that, compared with
an 8-footer, it would have more than three times the volume, weight,
cost and time to build.
Howard
sailing pram, I share the enthusiam for these big simple flat-
bottomed designs. I'd like to build one something like 21' x' 10'
that I could live aboard.
If you think a 12' pram is a bit small, remember that, compared with
an 8-footer, it would have more than three times the volume, weight,
cost and time to build.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry" <churchj@e...> wrote:
> I think you may want to look at the San Francisco Pelican. I
acquired
> a fixer-upper example of this versatile craft early this year as my
> first boat and my family and I are really enjoying it. There is a
> family of boats, 12', 16', and 18' respectively. Mine is a 12. On
> Father's Day this year my 4 kids and I "broke 'er in" on a small
> local lake. There is enough room for us all on board, for a few
more
> years, at least.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
<owlnmole@y...> wrote:
of choices for the best price.
There is ZEPHYR and TINY CAT certainly comes to mind. The for
something larger and easier lines there is BOB CAT BEACHCRUISER
(Optional Birdwatcher Cuddy.)
But the best plan buy in all boatdom has to be the CHEBACCO plans for
$60. It is so superior to the JAPANESE BEACHCRUISER that there is no
comparison. (Bolger has pretty much gone away from those leeboards
and loose-footed sails.)
Fore sheer fun, I can't get FASTBRICK out of my head. Then to realize
it is a capable lifeboat as well is even more impressive.
Been a long time since I have been to Luxembourg. Not sure where you
would go sailing there except along the river?
<owlnmole@y...> wrote:
> Someone recently asked about Japanese Beach Cruiser,I would advise Dynamite's plans catalogue as giving the most number
> which I've alwasys liked, but it seems a bit complex for my needs.
>
of choices for the best price.
There is ZEPHYR and TINY CAT certainly comes to mind. The for
something larger and easier lines there is BOB CAT BEACHCRUISER
(Optional Birdwatcher Cuddy.)
But the best plan buy in all boatdom has to be the CHEBACCO plans for
$60. It is so superior to the JAPANESE BEACHCRUISER that there is no
comparison. (Bolger has pretty much gone away from those leeboards
and loose-footed sails.)
Fore sheer fun, I can't get FASTBRICK out of my head. Then to realize
it is a capable lifeboat as well is even more impressive.
Been a long time since I have been to Luxembourg. Not sure where you
would go sailing there except along the river?
I think you may want to look at the San Francisco Pelican. I acquired
a fixer-upper example of this versatile craft early this year as my
first boat and my family and I are really enjoying it. There is a
family of boats, 12', 16', and 18' respectively. Mine is a 12. On
Father's Day this year my 4 kids and I "broke 'er in" on a small
local lake. There is enough room for us all on board, for a few more
years, at least.
Santa Rosa Sailing Club holds a sail-in-only campout / regatta on
Tomales Bay every Labor Day weekend up here in Northern California.
About a dozen Pelicans show up for this. Club members tell me they
are amazed at how much gear the Pelicaners haul into the campsite. It
all has to come by boat, there is no vehicle access.
http://www.santarosasailingclub.org/index.html
I've sailed my Pelican with 2 Dads, 2 12-year-olds and 2 70 pound
dogs with no trouble. One of the dogs tried to save her tennis ball
from the lake, and we didn't take on any water.
The Pelican's pram-type hull form has been described as having a
Chinese sampan bow with Banks dory flared hull. It is 12' long and
6'2" wide at the rails. The mainsail is a standing lug with a small
jib on a removable bowsprit. It weighs about 400 pounds on the
trailer. It is constructed from 3/8" plywood. Mine was built in 1966
and had been neglected so it is now sheathed in fiberglass.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pelican-sail/?yguid=164176278
The Pelican is not a fast boat. It is quite seaworthy, originally
designed to be sailed during the summer on San Francisco Bay.
Afternoon winds reach 20 knots or more on a daily basis there. We've
never gotten wet in this boat, but we've never been out in real
waves, either. The SR Club president remarked just a few nights ago
that the Pelicaners always stay dry on Tomales Bay.
A search for "San Francisco Pelican" will turn up lots of information
on-line.
It's a great family boat - just my own partial opinion.
-Jerry
SF Pelican 12
http://community-2.webtv.net/PelicanSailboat/SFPELICANSAILBOATS/
a fixer-upper example of this versatile craft early this year as my
first boat and my family and I are really enjoying it. There is a
family of boats, 12', 16', and 18' respectively. Mine is a 12. On
Father's Day this year my 4 kids and I "broke 'er in" on a small
local lake. There is enough room for us all on board, for a few more
years, at least.
Santa Rosa Sailing Club holds a sail-in-only campout / regatta on
Tomales Bay every Labor Day weekend up here in Northern California.
About a dozen Pelicans show up for this. Club members tell me they
are amazed at how much gear the Pelicaners haul into the campsite. It
all has to come by boat, there is no vehicle access.
http://www.santarosasailingclub.org/index.html
I've sailed my Pelican with 2 Dads, 2 12-year-olds and 2 70 pound
dogs with no trouble. One of the dogs tried to save her tennis ball
from the lake, and we didn't take on any water.
The Pelican's pram-type hull form has been described as having a
Chinese sampan bow with Banks dory flared hull. It is 12' long and
6'2" wide at the rails. The mainsail is a standing lug with a small
jib on a removable bowsprit. It weighs about 400 pounds on the
trailer. It is constructed from 3/8" plywood. Mine was built in 1966
and had been neglected so it is now sheathed in fiberglass.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pelican-sail/?yguid=164176278
The Pelican is not a fast boat. It is quite seaworthy, originally
designed to be sailed during the summer on San Francisco Bay.
Afternoon winds reach 20 knots or more on a daily basis there. We've
never gotten wet in this boat, but we've never been out in real
waves, either. The SR Club president remarked just a few nights ago
that the Pelicaners always stay dry on Tomales Bay.
A search for "San Francisco Pelican" will turn up lots of information
on-line.
It's a great family boat - just my own partial opinion.
-Jerry
SF Pelican 12
http://community-2.webtv.net/PelicanSailboat/SFPELICANSAILBOATS/
Matthew,
have you looked through John Welsford's designs?http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz
He is in my top five designer list. Good looking, and eminently
seaworthy designs. You don't need to have a very trained eye to see
they just make sense. Plenty of prams.
BTW, I found your Tetard pages useful and encouraging while making a
Brick. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Juan.
have you looked through John Welsford's designs?http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz
He is in my top five designer list. Good looking, and eminently
seaworthy designs. You don't need to have a very trained eye to see
they just make sense. Plenty of prams.
BTW, I found your Tetard pages useful and encouraging while making a
Brick. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Juan.
The Caravelle is based on the famous French sail training boats.
It's bigger than you have in mind, I think, but the construction is
simplified and the boat will still be big enough when the children
are grown.
http://boatplans-online.com/proddetail.php?prod=CV16
Bolger is a fan of the pram model for various purposes. Not having
the books at hand, I can't be certain I remember them all, but
Fieldmouse, Supermouse, and the Japanese beach cruiser all come to
mind. You might take a look at Oldshoe (not in any book, as far as I
know). The ballast keel makes her harder to deal with on land, but
that's about the only downside. One owner described her as being the
cockpit of a big cruiser without the expensive of a big boat.
I think that you can worry too much about the lobster traps. You can
clear them from leeboards easier than from a centerboard or keel
anyway.
A boat of 11-12 feet that is burdensome enough for a crew of four is
at the tipping point of needing a motor, especially to deal with the
currents that I remember from the Sheepscott River.
Peter
It's bigger than you have in mind, I think, but the construction is
simplified and the boat will still be big enough when the children
are grown.
http://boatplans-online.com/proddetail.php?prod=CV16
Bolger is a fan of the pram model for various purposes. Not having
the books at hand, I can't be certain I remember them all, but
Fieldmouse, Supermouse, and the Japanese beach cruiser all come to
mind. You might take a look at Oldshoe (not in any book, as far as I
know). The ballast keel makes her harder to deal with on land, but
that's about the only downside. One owner described her as being the
cockpit of a big cruiser without the expensive of a big boat.
I think that you can worry too much about the lobster traps. You can
clear them from leeboards easier than from a centerboard or keel
anyway.
A boat of 11-12 feet that is burdensome enough for a crew of four is
at the tipping point of needing a motor, especially to deal with the
currents that I remember from the Sheepscott River.
Peter
I believe you may be interested in the San Francisco Pelican design by
William Short. It's about the nicest pram for the purpose I've seen to
date. The plan set is quite detailed. You can find the information at:
http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!E4!97!B7B61FB156C3/PelicanSailboat/SFPELICA
NSAILBOATS/
David
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From: The Peillet-Long Family [mailto:owlnmole@...]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:44 AM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Big pram?
Greetings all!
I used to be pretty active in this group, but it's been a while.
(Lincoln, do you still have "Tetard"?).
I am thinking of tackling a new boat project (Brick, Yellow Leaf,
June Bug and Tortoise built to date) and would like a big sailing
pram for family-style Swallows & Amazons adventures with my wife and
two small boys. Someone recently asked about Japanese Beach Cruiser,
which I've alwasys liked, but it seems a bit complex for my needs.
Iain Oughtred has the Granny pram, 9' 4" x 4' 1", which would work
for now while the boys are small (age 5 and 1) but one thing I've
noticed about kids--they grow. So I think I'd better size the boat
for four adults, to allow for kids growing in size and/or numbers.
Does anyone know of a Bolger or other design for a large sailing
pram, say 12', suitable for carrying four adultskids? Simple
building, simple sail plan would be best, but I am willing to try my
hand at strip building or clinker plywood.
Cheers,
Matthew
Luxembourg City, Luxembourg
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William Short. It's about the nicest pram for the purpose I've seen to
date. The plan set is quite detailed. You can find the information at:
http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!E4!97!B7B61FB156C3/PelicanSailboat/SFPELICA
NSAILBOATS/
David
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From: The Peillet-Long Family [mailto:owlnmole@...]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:44 AM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Big pram?
Greetings all!
I used to be pretty active in this group, but it's been a while.
(Lincoln, do you still have "Tetard"?).
I am thinking of tackling a new boat project (Brick, Yellow Leaf,
June Bug and Tortoise built to date) and would like a big sailing
pram for family-style Swallows & Amazons adventures with my wife and
two small boys. Someone recently asked about Japanese Beach Cruiser,
which I've alwasys liked, but it seems a bit complex for my needs.
Iain Oughtred has the Granny pram, 9' 4" x 4' 1", which would work
for now while the boys are small (age 5 and 1) but one thing I've
noticed about kids--they grow. So I think I'd better size the boat
for four adults, to allow for kids growing in size and/or numbers.
Does anyone know of a Bolger or other design for a large sailing
pram, say 12', suitable for carrying four adultskids? Simple
building, simple sail plan would be best, but I am willing to try my
hand at strip building or clinker plywood.
Cheers,
Matthew
Luxembourg City, Luxembourg
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Michalaks' mikesboat is a large pram, bigger than you specified
though.
James
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
<owlnmole@y...> wrote:
though.
James
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
<owlnmole@y...> wrote:
> It's probably bad etiquette to reply to my own post, but I justidea,
> called Iain Oughtred to ask about a bigger pram. He liked the
> and also suggested a fairly broad-beamed double ender called aSkerry
> Skiff. I am going to sent him a letter (Iain doesn't have e-mail)
> and we'll see what comes of it.
>
> I'm still interested in hearing any other suggestions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
It's probably bad etiquette to reply to my own post, but I just
called Iain Oughtred to ask about a bigger pram. He liked the idea,
and also suggested a fairly broad-beamed double ender called a Skerry
Skiff. I am going to sent him a letter (Iain doesn't have e-mail)
and we'll see what comes of it.
I'm still interested in hearing any other suggestions.
Cheers,
Matthew
called Iain Oughtred to ask about a bigger pram. He liked the idea,
and also suggested a fairly broad-beamed double ender called a Skerry
Skiff. I am going to sent him a letter (Iain doesn't have e-mail)
and we'll see what comes of it.
I'm still interested in hearing any other suggestions.
Cheers,
Matthew
Greetings all!
I used to be pretty active in this group, but it's been a while.
(Lincoln, do you still have "Tetard"?).
I am thinking of tackling a new boat project (Brick, Yellow Leaf,
June Bug and Tortoise built to date) and would like a big sailing
pram for family-style Swallows & Amazons adventures with my wife and
two small boys. Someone recently asked about Japanese Beach Cruiser,
which I've alwasys liked, but it seems a bit complex for my needs.
Iain Oughtred has the Granny pram, 9' 4" x 4' 1", which would work
for now while the boys are small (age 5 and 1) but one thing I've
noticed about kids--they grow. So I think I'd better size the boat
for four adults, to allow for kids growing in size and/or numbers.
Does anyone know of a Bolger or other design for a large sailing
pram, say 12', suitable for carrying four adultskids? Simple
building, simple sail plan would be best, but I am willing to try my
hand at strip building or clinker plywood.
Cheers,
Matthew
Luxembourg City, Luxembourg
I used to be pretty active in this group, but it's been a while.
(Lincoln, do you still have "Tetard"?).
I am thinking of tackling a new boat project (Brick, Yellow Leaf,
June Bug and Tortoise built to date) and would like a big sailing
pram for family-style Swallows & Amazons adventures with my wife and
two small boys. Someone recently asked about Japanese Beach Cruiser,
which I've alwasys liked, but it seems a bit complex for my needs.
Iain Oughtred has the Granny pram, 9' 4" x 4' 1", which would work
for now while the boys are small (age 5 and 1) but one thing I've
noticed about kids--they grow. So I think I'd better size the boat
for four adults, to allow for kids growing in size and/or numbers.
Does anyone know of a Bolger or other design for a large sailing
pram, say 12', suitable for carrying four adultskids? Simple
building, simple sail plan would be best, but I am willing to try my
hand at strip building or clinker plywood.
Cheers,
Matthew
Luxembourg City, Luxembourg