Bolger w' a Steadying Sail???
I was involved in this thread but apparently never viewed the Diesel
Launch till tonight. There is one of those darn little sails on a
Bolger design.
Launch till tonight. There is one of those darn little sails on a
Bolger design.
> >Another Bolger boat in the same size range as Minesota would
> >be "Diesel Launch" 39'4"x8'0"x2'6", 12kt displacement hull,
> >which I find to be quite intriguing.
> >
> >The 'box keel' would be streamline, and much more seaworthy than
> >the flat bottom 'riverine' sharpies. Plus, the spread out styling,
> >veranda, stack, etc.. of the 'Diesel Cruiser' really are sharp!
> >
> >I want one!!!!
> >
> >http://hallman.org/bolger/DieselLaunch.gif
> >
Does anyone know if there is a way to get MAIB compilations, or SBJ
compilations, for that matter?
Actually if these were available in PDF format on CD, it would be ideal.
Juan.
compilations, for that matter?
Actually if these were available in PDF format on CD, it would be ideal.
Juan.
[now with the Micro 422B], which has a writeup
in the latest MAIB, a very interesting article.
What is this Micro 422B?
It is rather hard to get MAIB for those of us outside the US.
Juan.
in the latest MAIB, a very interesting article.
What is this Micro 422B?
It is rather hard to get MAIB for those of us outside the US.
Juan.
Nice looking boat but a whole order of magnitude increase of effort and
time I think. Its not a boat you would haul out the staple gun and PL
premium to build.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
time I think. Its not a boat you would haul out the staple gun and PL
premium to build.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
><donschultz> wrote:
>
>
>>I find the Minnesota very attractive,...
>>I believe the Minnesota cabin layout may be attractive to builders of
>>other 30'-40' Bolger sharpies, IE Tennesee, Dakota, Wyoming, Topaz,
>>and Windemere. I find it classic and handsome in appearance. I like
>>the idea of the "remote" outhouse, at least in temperate weather.
>>
>>
>
>Another Bolger boat in the same size range as Minesota would
>be "Diesel Launch" 39'4"x8'0"x2'6", 12kt displacement hull,
>which I find to be quite intriguing.
>
>The 'box keel' would be streamline, and much more seaworthy than
>the flat bottom 'riverine' sharpies. Plus, the spread out styling,
>veranda, stack, etc.. of the 'Diesel Cruiser' really are sharp!
>
>I want one!!!!
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/DieselLaunch.gif
>
>
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, donschultz@i... wrote:
about this comment. He replied that he no longer felt the clam skiff
type "shoe" was a good option for this design. In fact, you can
faintly see where it was drawn in and then erased from the plans. He
said that he had some other ideas on the centerboard retraction
mechanism, and asked that I get in touch with him when I got to that
point.
Ralph
> I find the Minnesota very attractive.... This would be in combo with aI purchased plans for Minnesota a few months ago and asked Bolger
> CCSkiff type "shoe" as Bolger suggests in his essay.
about this comment. He replied that he no longer felt the clam skiff
type "shoe" was a good option for this design. In fact, you can
faintly see where it was drawn in and then erased from the plans. He
said that he had some other ideas on the centerboard retraction
mechanism, and asked that I get in touch with him when I got to that
point.
Ralph
Which book is Diesel Cruiser in?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hallman [mailto:bruce@...]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:51 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Minnesota
<donschultz> wrote:
Launch" 39'4"x8'0"x2'6", 12kt displacement hull, which I find to be quite
intriguing.
The 'box keel' would be streamline, and much more seaworthy than the flat
bottom 'riverine' sharpies. Plus, the spread out styling, veranda, stack,
etc.. of the 'Diesel Cruiser' really are sharp!
I want one!!!!
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:51 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Minnesota
<donschultz> wrote:
> I find the Minnesota very attractive,...Another Bolger boat in the same size range as Minesota would be "Diesel
> I believe the Minnesota cabin layout may be attractive to builders of
> other 30'-40' Bolger sharpies, IE Tennesee, Dakota, Wyoming, Topaz,
> and Windemere. I find it classic and handsome in appearance. I like
> the idea of the "remote" outhouse, at least in temperate weather.
Launch" 39'4"x8'0"x2'6", 12kt displacement hull, which I find to be quite
intriguing.
The 'box keel' would be streamline, and much more seaworthy than the flat
bottom 'riverine' sharpies. Plus, the spread out styling, veranda, stack,
etc.. of the 'Diesel Cruiser' really are sharp!
I want one!!!!
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Thanks for posting that, Bruce. I'm in love! But for me it's about as
useful as being in love with Miss Universe.
In line with the thread on Bolger design families: this one is like a
stretched 15'11" Miniature Steel Tug, from BWAOM.
Howard
Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
useful as being in love with Miss Universe.
In line with the thread on Bolger design families: this one is like a
stretched 15'11" Miniature Steel Tug, from BWAOM.
Howard
Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> <donschultz> wrote:> Another Bolger boat in the same size range asMinesota would
> be "Diesel Launch" 39'4"x8'0"x2'6", 12kt displacement hull,
> which I find to be quite intriguing.
>
> The 'box keel' would be streamline, and much more seaworthy than
> the flat bottom 'riverine' sharpies. Plus, the spread out styling,
> veranda, stack, etc.. of the 'Diesel Cruiser' really are sharp!
>
> I want one!!!!
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/DieselLaunch.gif
<donschultz> wrote:
be "Diesel Launch" 39'4"x8'0"x2'6", 12kt displacement hull,
which I find to be quite intriguing.
The 'box keel' would be streamline, and much more seaworthy than
the flat bottom 'riverine' sharpies. Plus, the spread out styling,
veranda, stack, etc.. of the 'Diesel Cruiser' really are sharp!
I want one!!!!
http://hallman.org/bolger/DieselLaunch.gif
> I find the Minnesota very attractive,...Another Bolger boat in the same size range as Minesota would
> I believe the Minnesota cabin layout may be attractive to builders of
> other 30'-40' Bolger sharpies, IE Tennesee, Dakota, Wyoming, Topaz,
> and Windemere. I find it classic and handsome in appearance. I like
> the idea of the "remote" outhouse, at least in temperate weather.
be "Diesel Launch" 39'4"x8'0"x2'6", 12kt displacement hull,
which I find to be quite intriguing.
The 'box keel' would be streamline, and much more seaworthy than
the flat bottom 'riverine' sharpies. Plus, the spread out styling,
veranda, stack, etc.. of the 'Diesel Cruiser' really are sharp!
I want one!!!!
http://hallman.org/bolger/DieselLaunch.gif
This topic extends from another here, a year ago,
but certainly you could discern a Bolger
style group called 'Instant Boats', for Teal,
Windsprint, Zephyr etc..
Jessie Cooper would belong to the 'Advanced
Sharpie' class, IMO.
I am not sure where you would put the Long
Micro and the Micro, perhaps their own class,
[now with the Micro 422B], which has a writeup
in the latest MAIB, a very interesting article.
but certainly you could discern a Bolger
style group called 'Instant Boats', for Teal,
Windsprint, Zephyr etc..
Jessie Cooper would belong to the 'Advanced
Sharpie' class, IMO.
I am not sure where you would put the Long
Micro and the Micro, perhaps their own class,
[now with the Micro 422B], which has a writeup
in the latest MAIB, a very interesting article.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, donschultz@i... wrote:
I've sketched
> on the scans, raking the chine upward from the bulkhead just ahead
of
> the centerboard. I would either add an FMS like box cutwater, or a
> Topaz like cutwater filled with foam. This would be in combo with
a
> CCSkiff type "shoe" as Bolger suggests in his essay. The mod has
> minimal effect on the interior of the boat. I believe the
increased
> complexity can be offset by leaving out the centerboard, depending
on
> the shoe to improve handling. I view the centerboard as a
maintenance
> headache.
Don,
Just for the fun of it, I would suggest that your proposed
modification would have much more then a"minimal effect on the
interior" since by raising the chine and adding on a boxkeel you
would reduce,even further,the limited volume of the "cuddy"
stateroom up forward.Leaving out the centerboard,while at first
climpse appears to reduce complexity in construction,will
undoubtably only add greatly to the future complexity and cost of
the boat as one attempts to find a solution for the boats poor cross
wind handling and tracking resulting from the absence of any forward
resistance,aka;the centerboard. I,for one,would not want the
challenge of retro-fitting a centerboard or paying for a
bowthruster.But that's just beer-guzzling-lazy-old-me talking.You
may be more of a sporting kind of fellow.
The way Bolger offen installs his centerboard cases,they all
appear to become part of the interior"furniture", and not the nasty
right-in-the-middle-of-the-cabin-toe-crackers of the past.They also
add greatly to the structural strength of the hull in that
region.With the great adhesives available today combined with the
plywood centerboard case construction,one can pretty wave bye-bye to
the legendary tales of leaky centerboard cases which more properly
belong to the plank-on-edge box construction found in traditional
woodenboat construction.
>
> I believe the Minnesota cabin layout may be attractive to builders
of
> other 30'-40' Bolger sharpies,
> and Windemere.
Well....I don't know about that one Don ;-)......as a Windermere
builder myself, I am kinda partial to having full standing headroom,
anywhere and everywhere inside the boat with lots of tank volume
bellow the cabin sole,fully insulated 4 season living accomadations
and nicely layed out,seperate/dedicated, living spaces.Should I ever
feel nostalgic about crawling around on my hands and knees just to
get into bed, I can always dream up some games for the crew and I to
play on the carpet...........
Minnesota does however have a handsome profile and should provide
for lots of on the water fun for anyone who builds and gets to know
her well,especially in more temperate climates.
So.......are you gonna ta build her or what?!? :-D
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, looking forward to another wonderful day of listening
to the rain fall OUTSIDE his boat shed while all remains blessedly
dry and dusty inside the ever growing Windermere,from along the
shores of the St.Lawrence..........
.......The conversation than turned to a bigger boat to continue to
explore the vistas that had been opened up by the sneakeasy. He
thought that the Wyoming and probably the Dakota were too big and I
mentioned the Minnesota which he had never heard of.............
I like to group Bolger's designs. I suggest that one such group is;
Sneakeasy, Idaho, Minnesota, and Wyoming. All very flat bottomed,
fast, and pretty simple for their size.
Tennesee, Dakota, and Illinois, with maybe Champlagne (SP?) are
another group, this time with rockered bottoms.
Yet another group is FMS, Puffer, Shady Lady, and Salvage1.
How 'bout Topaz, Sitka Explorer, and Tahiti?
The Advanced Sailing Sharpies include the AS 19, up through Sir Joseph
Banks, which I would call an AS 100.
explore the vistas that had been opened up by the sneakeasy. He
thought that the Wyoming and probably the Dakota were too big and I
mentioned the Minnesota which he had never heard of.............
I like to group Bolger's designs. I suggest that one such group is;
Sneakeasy, Idaho, Minnesota, and Wyoming. All very flat bottomed,
fast, and pretty simple for their size.
Tennesee, Dakota, and Illinois, with maybe Champlagne (SP?) are
another group, this time with rockered bottoms.
Yet another group is FMS, Puffer, Shady Lady, and Salvage1.
How 'bout Topaz, Sitka Explorer, and Tahiti?
The Advanced Sailing Sharpies include the AS 19, up through Sir Joseph
Banks, which I would call an AS 100.
I find the Minnesota very attractive, though like Bolger I find 140hp
kinda scary on a dead flat bottom boat such as he drew. I've sketched
on the scans, raking the chine upward from the bulkhead just ahead of
the centerboard. I would either add an FMS like box cutwater, or a
Topaz like cutwater filled with foam. This would be in combo with a
CCSkiff type "shoe" as Bolger suggests in his essay. The mod has
minimal effect on the interior of the boat. I believe the increased
complexity can be offset by leaving out the centerboard, depending on
the shoe to improve handling. I view the centerboard as a maintenance
headache.
I believe the Minnesota cabin layout may be attractive to builders of
other 30'-40' Bolger sharpies, IE Tennesee, Dakota, Wyoming, Topaz,
and Windemere. I find it classic and handsome in appearance. I like
the idea of the "remote" outhouse, at least in temperate weather.
I sketched such a lay out on an Idaho hull, but now believe it would
present far to much area to the wind for the narrow spud boat.
I've got my doubts about using Minnesota with the dead flat bottom in
all but the best water conditions, but a shoe and cutwater should help.
kinda scary on a dead flat bottom boat such as he drew. I've sketched
on the scans, raking the chine upward from the bulkhead just ahead of
the centerboard. I would either add an FMS like box cutwater, or a
Topaz like cutwater filled with foam. This would be in combo with a
CCSkiff type "shoe" as Bolger suggests in his essay. The mod has
minimal effect on the interior of the boat. I believe the increased
complexity can be offset by leaving out the centerboard, depending on
the shoe to improve handling. I view the centerboard as a maintenance
headache.
I believe the Minnesota cabin layout may be attractive to builders of
other 30'-40' Bolger sharpies, IE Tennesee, Dakota, Wyoming, Topaz,
and Windemere. I find it classic and handsome in appearance. I like
the idea of the "remote" outhouse, at least in temperate weather.
I sketched such a lay out on an Idaho hull, but now believe it would
present far to much area to the wind for the narrow spud boat.
I've got my doubts about using Minnesota with the dead flat bottom in
all but the best water conditions, but a shoe and cutwater should help.
Your post made me laugh, David. The mood was heightened by the opera
music that happened to be playing on the radio as I read it.
Howard
music that happened to be playing on the radio as I read it.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
> I always thought the GY would be an interesting, albeit noisy,
design to try out. That article is (IMHO) quintessential Bolger; one
can see PCB at work, eyes gleaming with creativity and enthusiasm as
the concept took shape; and one can only imagine the look on the
client's face initially, then follow the arc downward as
the "experts" solemnly chime in. Fairly cries out to be
> done up as an opera, doesn't it?
I always thought the GY would be an interesting, albeit noisy, design to try
out. That article is (IMHO) quintessential Bolger; one can see PCB at work,
eyes gleaming with creativity and enthusiasm as the concept took shape; and
one can only imagine the look on the client's face initially, then follow
the arc downward as the "experts" solemnly chime in. Fairly cries out to be
done up as an opera, doesn't it? PCB may have had a narrow escape, however;
had the the client gotten enthused, the next requirement might well have
been to see how the design could incorporate a cabin and inboard power
(!).........
David
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From: Howard Stephenson [mailto:stephensonhw@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:57 PM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Minnesota
The MAIB article provides a rare insight into a relationship between
designer and client that does not go well.
It reminds me of the chapter in Small Boats about the Gloucester
Yawl, a 21' open three-masted boat. The hull is a heavily-rockered,
no-flare sharpie. So far, that's fairly conventional by Bolger
standards, but it gets worse: there is a wide out-of-water sponson on
each side, with a "bilgeboard" (a long way from the bilge) in a trunk
mounted towards the outside edge of each sponson. Bolger is annoyed
that the client, after consulting so-called experts, reneges on the
deal and won't have it built, asking that instead Bolger design a
dory sloop; Bolger refuses. He says the moral of the story is: don't
trust anybody with pretensions to moral superiority -- the client is
a "missionary type".
Eventually someone built the design and apparently found it to be
reasonably successful. There is a photo of the boat sitting so high
in the water that it looks like it's made of 1/8" balsa. The caption
says: "Looks as though some ballast would be a good idea."
Howard
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out. That article is (IMHO) quintessential Bolger; one can see PCB at work,
eyes gleaming with creativity and enthusiasm as the concept took shape; and
one can only imagine the look on the client's face initially, then follow
the arc downward as the "experts" solemnly chime in. Fairly cries out to be
done up as an opera, doesn't it? PCB may have had a narrow escape, however;
had the the client gotten enthused, the next requirement might well have
been to see how the design could incorporate a cabin and inboard power
(!).........
David
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From: Howard Stephenson [mailto:stephensonhw@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:57 PM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Minnesota
The MAIB article provides a rare insight into a relationship between
designer and client that does not go well.
It reminds me of the chapter in Small Boats about the Gloucester
Yawl, a 21' open three-masted boat. The hull is a heavily-rockered,
no-flare sharpie. So far, that's fairly conventional by Bolger
standards, but it gets worse: there is a wide out-of-water sponson on
each side, with a "bilgeboard" (a long way from the bilge) in a trunk
mounted towards the outside edge of each sponson. Bolger is annoyed
that the client, after consulting so-called experts, reneges on the
deal and won't have it built, asking that instead Bolger design a
dory sloop; Bolger refuses. He says the moral of the story is: don't
trust anybody with pretensions to moral superiority -- the client is
a "missionary type".
Eventually someone built the design and apparently found it to be
reasonably successful. There is a photo of the boat sitting so high
in the water that it looks like it's made of 1/8" balsa. The caption
says: "Looks as though some ballast would be a good idea."
Howard
eint.--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector"
<bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...>around?"
> wrote: "Minnesota. Had an outhouse on the back. Is it still
>Bolger rules!!!
> Yep, its in the Bolger2 files section, in a file named Bolger Scans.
>
> This might work
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
>
> Bruce Hector
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The MAIB article provides a rare insight into a relationship between
designer and client that does not go well.
It reminds me of the chapter in Small Boats about the Gloucester
Yawl, a 21' open three-masted boat. The hull is a heavily-rockered,
no-flare sharpie. So far, that's fairly conventional by Bolger
standards, but it gets worse: there is a wide out-of-water sponson on
each side, with a "bilgeboard" (a long way from the bilge) in a trunk
mounted towards the outside edge of each sponson. Bolger is annoyed
that the client, after consulting so-called experts, reneges on the
deal and won't have it built, asking that instead Bolger design a
dory sloop; Bolger refuses. He says the moral of the story is: don't
trust anybody with pretensions to moral superiority -- the client is
a "missionary type".
Eventually someone built the design and apparently found it to be
reasonably successful. There is a photo of the boat sitting so high
in the water that it looks like it's made of 1/8" balsa. The caption
says: "Looks as though some ballast would be a good idea."
Howard
eint.--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector"
<bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
designer and client that does not go well.
It reminds me of the chapter in Small Boats about the Gloucester
Yawl, a 21' open three-masted boat. The hull is a heavily-rockered,
no-flare sharpie. So far, that's fairly conventional by Bolger
standards, but it gets worse: there is a wide out-of-water sponson on
each side, with a "bilgeboard" (a long way from the bilge) in a trunk
mounted towards the outside edge of each sponson. Bolger is annoyed
that the client, after consulting so-called experts, reneges on the
deal and won't have it built, asking that instead Bolger design a
dory sloop; Bolger refuses. He says the moral of the story is: don't
trust anybody with pretensions to moral superiority -- the client is
a "missionary type".
Eventually someone built the design and apparently found it to be
reasonably successful. There is a photo of the boat sitting so high
in the water that it looks like it's made of 1/8" balsa. The caption
says: "Looks as though some ballast would be a good idea."
Howard
eint.--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector"
<bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...>around?"
> wrote: "Minnesota. Had an outhouse on the back. Is it still
>
> Yep, its in the Bolger2 files section, in a file named Bolger Scans.
>
> This might work
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
>
> Bruce Hector
Missed placed "a" there, sentence went by too fast.
HJ
Harry James wrote:
HJ
Harry James wrote:
>Makes one think of small block Chevy with a 4 barrel carb and straight
>pipes to see what she could really do. Adds a whole new meaning to house
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Makes one think of small a block Chevy with 4 barrel carb and straight
pipes to see what she could really do. Adds a whole new meaning to house
moving.
Jason Stancil wrote:
pipes to see what she could really do. Adds a whole new meaning to house
moving.
Jason Stancil wrote:
>My God, 40 MPH in a sharpie/houseboat :)
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Ed -
I have two solutions that you can borrow to deal with the shallow
ramp syndrome.
1. Laminate a couple of 10 foot 2X4's and lash one end to the
trailer and couple the other end to your car. It worked well for my
Micro.
2. IN retrospect...I could have accomplished the same thing with a
heavy rope and an excellent trailer tongue wheel at the front of the
trailer. It would have been simple just to push the trailer in. be
sure to chock the trailer wheels before detaching from your car!
David Jost
I have two solutions that you can borrow to deal with the shallow
ramp syndrome.
1. Laminate a couple of 10 foot 2X4's and lash one end to the
trailer and couple the other end to your car. It worked well for my
Micro.
2. IN retrospect...I could have accomplished the same thing with a
heavy rope and an excellent trailer tongue wheel at the front of the
trailer. It would have been simple just to push the trailer in. be
sure to chock the trailer wheels before detaching from your car!
David Jost
My God, 40 MPH in a sharpie/houseboat :)
Jason
Jason
Bruce-
You nautical library never ceases to amaze me. Man, when i saw that
first jpeg link "broad reaching" I was thinking holy &*^&^%.....Bruce
launched that little tug boat!(all the neibors keep asking me why
there is a pipe on top of my tug boat, i give up trying to
explain)....... Oh well i guess all navigators are doomed to dry dock
in various stages of completion for all eternity :)
Jason
You nautical library never ceases to amaze me. Man, when i saw that
first jpeg link "broad reaching" I was thinking holy &*^&^%.....Bruce
launched that little tug boat!(all the neibors keep asking me why
there is a pipe on top of my tug boat, i give up trying to
explain)....... Oh well i guess all navigators are doomed to dry dock
in various stages of completion for all eternity :)
Jason
Of interest to some: I just stumbled across
Phil Bolgers 1999 article in MAIB describing
the Jim Melcher's Alert upgrade with a
Chinese Gaff Rig. Some may remember that
there were mixed reports of his success, and
Bolger's writeup makes sense of that confusion,
especially his comments about variable batten
thicknesses, and even sail cloth weight in
each of the panels.
Also, there are very few pictures of a Chinese
Gaff Rig on the Internet, and here are four more.
http://hallman.org/bolger/alert/
Phil Bolgers 1999 article in MAIB describing
the Jim Melcher's Alert upgrade with a
Chinese Gaff Rig. Some may remember that
there were mixed reports of his success, and
Bolger's writeup makes sense of that confusion,
especially his comments about variable batten
thicknesses, and even sail cloth weight in
each of the panels.
Also, there are very few pictures of a Chinese
Gaff Rig on the Internet, and here are four more.
http://hallman.org/bolger/alert/
Bruce
I was over visiting Fritz yesterday and he was regaling me with tales of
sneakeasies incredible performance in the shallow river waters of
Wisconsin and the upper Mississippi this summer. He says that the only
thing that can go shallower than him is an airboat on step. He tilts the
motor up and the extensions in the back act like a tunnel.
The conversation than turned to a bigger boat to continue to explore the
vistas that had been opened up by the sneakeasy. He thought that the
Wyoming and probably the Dakota were too big and I mentioned the
Minnesota which he had never heard of.
And now you know the rest of the story.
HJ
Bruce Hector wrote:
I was over visiting Fritz yesterday and he was regaling me with tales of
sneakeasies incredible performance in the shallow river waters of
Wisconsin and the upper Mississippi this summer. He says that the only
thing that can go shallower than him is an airboat on step. He tilts the
motor up and the extensions in the back act like a tunnel.
The conversation than turned to a bigger boat to continue to explore the
vistas that had been opened up by the sneakeasy. He thought that the
Wyoming and probably the Dakota were too big and I mentioned the
Minnesota which he had never heard of.
And now you know the rest of the story.
HJ
Bruce Hector wrote:
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...>
>wrote: "It appears to be from a MAIB article. What issue was it
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>No idea Harry, I found it on the net somewhere in the distant past.
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>Why, are you thinking of building one? It's my favorite power
>sharpie.
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...>
wrote: "It appears to be from a MAIB article. What issue was it
No idea Harry, I found it on the net somewhere in the distant past.
Why, are you thinking of building one? It's my favorite power
sharpie.
Bruce
wrote: "It appears to be from a MAIB article. What issue was it
No idea Harry, I found it on the net somewhere in the distant past.
Why, are you thinking of building one? It's my favorite power
sharpie.
Bruce
Bruce
It appears to be from a MAIB article. What issue was it?
HJ
Bruce Hector wrote:
It appears to be from a MAIB article. What issue was it?
HJ
Bruce Hector wrote:
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...>
>wrote: "Minnesota. Had an outhouse on the back. Is it still around?"
>
>Yep, its in the Bolger2 files section, in a file named Bolger Scans.
>
>This might work
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
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>Bruce Hector
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...>
wrote: "Minnesota. Had an outhouse on the back. Is it still around?"
Yep, its in the Bolger2 files section, in a file named Bolger Scans.
This might work
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
Bruce Hector
wrote: "Minnesota. Had an outhouse on the back. Is it still around?"
Yep, its in the Bolger2 files section, in a file named Bolger Scans.
This might work
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
Bruce Hector
I have returned from a year absence and I am unable to find some things
in the files. Not that it should be static anyway.
Somewhere used to be a file on an intermediate power sharpie longer than
Tennessee, shorter than Wyoming and maybe Dakota and I think it was
called Minnesota. Had an outhouse on the back. Is it still around?
HJ
in the files. Not that it should be static anyway.
Somewhere used to be a file on an intermediate power sharpie longer than
Tennessee, shorter than Wyoming and maybe Dakota and I think it was
called Minnesota. Had an outhouse on the back. Is it still around?
HJ
Congratulations Ed! You did better than I did -- on my first attempt
at launching I couldn't get her off the trailer, had to drive another
15 miles to a steeper ramp.
Get that bridle or strap on the gaff good and tight, and make sure
your peak halyard isn't pulling downwards on it when you're fully
hoisted. This can happen if the peak halyard block is lower than the
bottom end of the bridle. I couldn't tell from your pictures whether
this was the case or not, but it's something else to try.
Looking forward to more pics, this time of Boudicea sailing briskly
along, or perhaps at anchor in some picturesque cove while the crew
relax with a glass of wine....
Jamie Orr
at launching I couldn't get her off the trailer, had to drive another
15 miles to a steeper ramp.
Get that bridle or strap on the gaff good and tight, and make sure
your peak halyard isn't pulling downwards on it when you're fully
hoisted. This can happen if the peak halyard block is lower than the
bottom end of the bridle. I couldn't tell from your pictures whether
this was the case or not, but it's something else to try.
Looking forward to more pics, this time of Boudicea sailing briskly
along, or perhaps at anchor in some picturesque cove while the crew
relax with a glass of wine....
Jamie Orr
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
> After 6 years 2 states and 4 places of residence, I managed to
launch Boudicea, the Chebacco that has doubled as a garage ornament
for far too long.
>
> We approached launching day with appropriate plans for celebration
including a christening bottle of some not-for-consumption concoction
all neatly enclosed in netting, blue blazers, and Deb, my British
Lady wife, well rehearsed in her best QE2 accent .
>
> All great ideas, however they didn't get used today. In fact we
launched into probably the most inappropriate venue I've ever seen.
(Unfortunately, while the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia is
resplendant in natural wonders, it exhibits a complete lack of
sailing water) Nevertheless, we dunked the boat and celebrations may
follow at a later date and location.
>
> The good news. 1) The trailer rig travelled without a hitch. It's
apparent I need a tongue extension for shallow ramps, but more on
that later. 2) we didn't take on any water we didn't understand. Yes,
the centerboard pivot leaks a bit, but that is a project yet to come.
3) I didn't fall off the boat, do a bad "Caber Tossing" impression
with the main mast, or otherwise. and 4) I arrived at the launch site
with everything I needed for a normal set up and launch.
>
> Now the bad news. 1) Lake Shenandoah ( a pond to anyone other than
a realtor), is small, narrow, shallow (something the locals are
either unaware of, or unwilling to share). Hence we had to push the
boat off the trailer, and reloading it was an experience. 2) I've got
a problem in the gaff rigging that will be resolved before the next
attempt at a sail. Please ignore the poor sail set in the attached
pics. 3) Probably the worst occurance however was a jammed
centerboard in the down position. I placed a block on the board to
give better purchase which worked well in dry tests, but apparently
after numerous groundings ( refer to item 1, !@###$%^ shallow pond)
the block has managed to twist in the trunk. We managed to get the
board back up, but damage assessment is on hold till the morrow. Oh
well, the great thing about building a boat, is that the repairs are
just a continuance of the project.
>
> Next on the agenda is the Atlantic small craft festival in St.
Michaels MD. I'm confident that my trailer rig will allow me to get
it there. Beyond that it's anybody's guess. If anyone should see a
statuesque British woman smacking a blue hulled Chebacco with a
netted bottle, be advised that things are probably going better the
second time around.
>
> Oh yea pics are going up in the Chebaccos folder
under "Boudicea" if space permits
>
> "Let the chips fall where they will..... I've got boats to build."
>
> Cheers y'all.
>
> Ed Heins
>
> New Market VA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Ed,
You mention that you put your gaff bridle on as tight as you could, and still it stretches. Have you used nylon, or non-stretchy polyester line for it?
Anyway, it's hard to overemphasize how tight it has to be.
Also - having the bottom end of the bridle just about opposite the peak halyard block on the mast, when the sail is up, reduces the effects of stretch considerably.
Bill
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You mention that you put your gaff bridle on as tight as you could, and still it stretches. Have you used nylon, or non-stretchy polyester line for it?
Anyway, it's hard to overemphasize how tight it has to be.
Also - having the bottom end of the bridle just about opposite the peak halyard block on the mast, when the sail is up, reduces the effects of stretch considerably.
Bill
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Thanks Roger. I'm probably going to put another purchase in the halyards. Not real happy with the way they are. Next weekend I'll be putting the boat on blocks to repair the CB. I don't think it's tragic after today's brief assessment. Whatever the case it has been wet anyway.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Derby
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Chebacco Launching (or "where did he learn that language")
Congratulations! It does look good.
The discussion cited earlier under "Bobcat Rigging" led to
http://www.messing-about.com/gaffrig/gaffhaly.htmwhich was very
interesting. It suggested to me that the 150 sq.ft. Chebacco main might
like a 3 part rig on the halyards.
I'm thinking the CB will have a 2" sheave held rigid by two 1/8" straps per
someone else's suggestion.
Perfection takes a few trials, but you're close.
Roger
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Heins" <eheins@...>
> After 6 years 2 states and 4 places of residence, I managed to
> launch Boudicea, the Chebacco that has doubled as a garage
> ornament for far too long.
>
<snip>
> 2) I've got a problem in the gaff rigging that will be resolved
> before the next attempt at a sail. Please ignore the poor sail
> set in the attached pics.
>
> 3) Probably the worst occurance however was a jammed
> centerboard in the down position. I placed a block on the
> board to give better purchase which worked well in dry tests,
> but apparently after numerous groundings the block has
> managed to twist in the trunk.
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Congratulations! It does look good.
The discussion cited earlier under "Bobcat Rigging" led to
http://www.messing-about.com/gaffrig/gaffhaly.htmwhich was very
interesting. It suggested to me that the 150 sq.ft. Chebacco main might
like a 3 part rig on the halyards.
I'm thinking the CB will have a 2" sheave held rigid by two 1/8" straps per
someone else's suggestion.
Perfection takes a few trials, but you're close.
Roger
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The discussion cited earlier under "Bobcat Rigging" led to
http://www.messing-about.com/gaffrig/gaffhaly.htmwhich was very
interesting. It suggested to me that the 150 sq.ft. Chebacco main might
like a 3 part rig on the halyards.
I'm thinking the CB will have a 2" sheave held rigid by two 1/8" straps per
someone else's suggestion.
Perfection takes a few trials, but you're close.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Heins" <eheins@...>
> After 6 years 2 states and 4 places of residence, I managed to
> launch Boudicea, the Chebacco that has doubled as a garage
> ornament for far too long.
>
<snip>
> 2) I've got a problem in the gaff rigging that will be resolved
> before the next attempt at a sail. Please ignore the poor sail
> set in the attached pics.
>
> 3) Probably the worst occurance however was a jammed
> centerboard in the down position. I placed a block on the
> board to give better purchase which worked well in dry tests,
> but apparently after numerous groundings the block has
> managed to twist in the trunk.
Anyone who would like a good curse or two would do well to
familiarize themselves with Chapter 11 of Tristram Shandy
http://www.gifu-u.ac.jp/~masaru/TS/iii.36-59.html#Ernulphus
boblq
Powerful curses indeed! But they don't really apply to a trailer or launching slip . . . Mind you, they are quite apposite for the guys who stand there watching you struggling and don't think to lend a hand ;-)
Cheers,
Bill
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familiarize themselves with Chapter 11 of Tristram Shandy
http://www.gifu-u.ac.jp/~masaru/TS/iii.36-59.html#Ernulphus
boblq
Powerful curses indeed! But they don't really apply to a trailer or launching slip . . . Mind you, they are quite apposite for the guys who stand there watching you struggling and don't think to lend a hand ;-)
Cheers,
Bill
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On Monday 06 September 2004 05:10 am, Will Samson wrote:
familiarize themselves with Chapter 11 of Tristram Shandy
http://www.gifu-u.ac.jp/~masaru/TS/iii.36-59.html#Ernulphus
boblq
>Anyone who would like a good curse or two would do well to
> It'd be interesting to compare our vocabularies of swearwords!
>
familiarize themselves with Chapter 11 of Tristram Shandy
http://www.gifu-u.ac.jp/~masaru/TS/iii.36-59.html#Ernulphus
boblq
Hi Ed, glad to hear the Chebacco finally got wet! I have a friend who
lives in Luray ( a life long resident) who is a boat nut, too. If you
like, I can put you in contact with him. Perhaps he can share with
you his experiences and places to sail in the valley. Contact me off
list if you are interested.
Dennis
lives in Luray ( a life long resident) who is a boat nut, too. If you
like, I can put you in contact with him. Perhaps he can share with
you his experiences and places to sail in the valley. Contact me off
list if you are interested.
Dennis
Good work and best of luck!
I think that 9/10ths of all launching day photos of gaff riggers show
the sail not peaked up all the way, mostly due to the stretching of
the halyards. It's even true in several of the pictures in Bolger's
books.
I hope that the centerboard problem doesn't amount to more than a
little mud.
Peter
I think that 9/10ths of all launching day photos of gaff riggers show
the sail not peaked up all the way, mostly due to the stretching of
the halyards. It's even true in several of the pictures in Bolger's
books.
I hope that the centerboard problem doesn't amount to more than a
little mud.
Peter
The Chebacco folder is in the "Photos" section of Bolger 2. Perhaps you were looking in the"files" section?
I suspect the rigging problem has come from the use of too stretchy line on the gaff bridle, even though I pulled it as tight as I could. Also something in the only partially developed topping lift design and throat lacing connection. Coupled with being tired, generally irritated at our launching endeavours and dealing with the thunderstorm overhead I just didn't sort it out.
The trailer is a converted powerboat trailer. The nice things about it are the tandem wheel setup, and the lights that are raised above the waterline which for the first time in my life renders relatively non-intermittent trailer lights. I still want to add a tongue extension and some way to better center the keel when reloading. I also want some sidelights but want to keep them out of the water if possible. I didn't build the jonesport cleat so I snug the bow with a bridle run from the two forward cleats to the winch.
I'll check with you before the St. Michaels "do". By the way the QE2 reference wasn't directed at the boat, but my loving wife of British extraction. Hopefully we'll all be there.
I suspect the rigging problem has come from the use of too stretchy line on the gaff bridle, even though I pulled it as tight as I could. Also something in the only partially developed topping lift design and throat lacing connection. Coupled with being tired, generally irritated at our launching endeavours and dealing with the thunderstorm overhead I just didn't sort it out.
The trailer is a converted powerboat trailer. The nice things about it are the tandem wheel setup, and the lights that are raised above the waterline which for the first time in my life renders relatively non-intermittent trailer lights. I still want to add a tongue extension and some way to better center the keel when reloading. I also want some sidelights but want to keep them out of the water if possible. I didn't build the jonesport cleat so I snug the bow with a bridle run from the two forward cleats to the winch.
I'll check with you before the St. Michaels "do". By the way the QE2 reference wasn't directed at the boat, but my loving wife of British extraction. Hopefully we'll all be there.
----- Original Message -----
From: seagulloutb
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:12 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco Launching (or "where did he learn that language")
Celebrations are indeed in order, Ed. Even if you'd put her in a
puddle in the driveway! Congrats!!! Happy is the sailor when his
boat floats...or...something like that. Our Chebacco, like the lame
horse left in the stall, has envy drooling from her bow. Even, it
seems, her pampering servant, yours truly. Perhaps I'll be enchanted
into getting on with it. Our plan of launching the hull this summer
went kaput.
For reasons beyond my brain, I cannot access the photos you put up on
Bolger 2. Later perhaps the pixies will change that. In the
meantime, your gaff problem is...what? I'd sent off to others the
data and sketch from Jim Slakov on rigging....
Will look forward to seeing you and your QE2 Chebacco at St.
Michael's! Wow--we are planning on going and now you've put whipped
cream on top of the event. Would like to know about your trailer
choice, cost, 2nd thoughts, etc. Should I bring the Slakov sketches,
etc., with me?
-- Dick Burnham, humbled bumbling carpenter of the stalled
Chebacco "Stealing Horses."
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
> Bolger2 pics "Chebaccos" "Boudicea"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nels
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:19 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco Launching (or "where did he learn
that language")
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
> The good news. 1) The trailer rig travelled without a hitch.
>
> How did you manage to do that? Push it maybe;-))
>
> Sorry I couldn't resist. When you say the photos are in the
Chebacco
> folder, where exactly is that located please?
>
> Congratulations! Nels
>
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Haha! Puts me in mind of the time we put our Chebacco, 'Sylvester', on Loch Lomond. Once again the trailer had to be pushed out the best part of a mile before the water was deep enough. To add spice to the proceedings, the slip narrowed to about 8 feet under the water and one wheel went over the edge before the boat could float off.
While trying to get out of this muddle, I stumbled and cut my leg open on a rusty length of iron bar on the loch bottom.
Mind you, we had a great sail after we got afloat! Oh the joys of trailer-sailing in unknown waters . . .
It'd be interesting to compare our vocabularies of swearwords!
Anyway - heartiest congratulations on getting afloat! I can guarantee you some wonderful times in Boudicea! Talking of whom, do you by any chance have scythe blades welded to your trailer axles?
Bill
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While trying to get out of this muddle, I stumbled and cut my leg open on a rusty length of iron bar on the loch bottom.
Mind you, we had a great sail after we got afloat! Oh the joys of trailer-sailing in unknown waters . . .
It'd be interesting to compare our vocabularies of swearwords!
Anyway - heartiest congratulations on getting afloat! I can guarantee you some wonderful times in Boudicea! Talking of whom, do you by any chance have scythe blades welded to your trailer axles?
Bill
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Celebrations are indeed in order, Ed. Even if you'd put her in a
puddle in the driveway! Congrats!!! Happy is the sailor when his
boat floats...or...something like that. Our Chebacco, like the lame
horse left in the stall, has envy drooling from her bow. Even, it
seems, her pampering servant, yours truly. Perhaps I'll be enchanted
into getting on with it. Our plan of launching the hull this summer
went kaput.
For reasons beyond my brain, I cannot access the photos you put up on
Bolger 2. Later perhaps the pixies will change that. In the
meantime, your gaff problem is...what? I'd sent off to others the
data and sketch from Jim Slakov on rigging....
Will look forward to seeing you and your QE2 Chebacco at St.
Michael's! Wow--we are planning on going and now you've put whipped
cream on top of the event. Would like to know about your trailer
choice, cost, 2nd thoughts, etc. Should I bring the Slakov sketches,
etc., with me?
-- Dick Burnham, humbled bumbling carpenter of the stalled
Chebacco "Stealing Horses."
puddle in the driveway! Congrats!!! Happy is the sailor when his
boat floats...or...something like that. Our Chebacco, like the lame
horse left in the stall, has envy drooling from her bow. Even, it
seems, her pampering servant, yours truly. Perhaps I'll be enchanted
into getting on with it. Our plan of launching the hull this summer
went kaput.
For reasons beyond my brain, I cannot access the photos you put up on
Bolger 2. Later perhaps the pixies will change that. In the
meantime, your gaff problem is...what? I'd sent off to others the
data and sketch from Jim Slakov on rigging....
Will look forward to seeing you and your QE2 Chebacco at St.
Michael's! Wow--we are planning on going and now you've put whipped
cream on top of the event. Would like to know about your trailer
choice, cost, 2nd thoughts, etc. Should I bring the Slakov sketches,
etc., with me?
-- Dick Burnham, humbled bumbling carpenter of the stalled
Chebacco "Stealing Horses."
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
> Bolger2 pics "Chebaccos" "Boudicea"
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco Launching (or "where did he learn
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
> The good news. 1) The trailer rig travelled without a hitch.
>
> How did you manage to do that? Push it maybe;-))
>
> Sorry I couldn't resist. When you say the photos are in the
Chebacco
> folder, where exactly is that located please?
>
> Congratulations! Nels
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Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco Launching (or "where did he learn that language")
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
The good news. 1) The trailer rig travelled without a hitch.
How did you manage to do that? Push it maybe;-))
Sorry I couldn't resist. When you say the photos are in the Chebacco
folder, where exactly is that located please?
Congratulations! Nels
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
The good news. 1) The trailer rig travelled without a hitch.
How did you manage to do that? Push it maybe;-))
Sorry I couldn't resist. When you say the photos are in the Chebacco
folder, where exactly is that located please?
Congratulations! Nels
After 6 years 2 states and 4 places of residence, I managed to launch Boudicea, the Chebacco that has doubled as a garage ornament for far too long.
We approached launching day with appropriate plans for celebration including a christening bottle of some not-for-consumption concoction all neatly enclosed in netting, blue blazers, and Deb, my British Lady wife, well rehearsed in her best QE2 accent .
All great ideas, however they didn't get used today. In fact we launched into probably the most inappropriate venue I've ever seen. (Unfortunately, while the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia is resplendant in natural wonders, it exhibits a complete lack of sailing water) Nevertheless, we dunked the boat and celebrations may follow at a later date and location.
The good news. 1) The trailer rig travelled without a hitch. It's apparent I need a tongue extension for shallow ramps, but more on that later. 2) we didn't take on any water we didn't understand. Yes, the centerboard pivot leaks a bit, but that is a project yet to come. 3) I didn't fall off the boat, do a bad "Caber Tossing" impression with the main mast, or otherwise. and 4) I arrived at the launch site with everything I needed for a normal set up and launch.
Now the bad news. 1) Lake Shenandoah ( a pond to anyone other than a realtor), is small, narrow, shallow (something the locals are either unaware of, or unwilling to share). Hence we had to push the boat off the trailer, and reloading it was an experience. 2) I've got a problem in the gaff rigging that will be resolved before the next attempt at a sail. Please ignore the poor sail set in the attached pics. 3) Probably the worst occurance however was a jammed centerboard in the down position. I placed a block on the board to give better purchase which worked well in dry tests, but apparently after numerous groundings ( refer to item 1, !@###$%^ shallow pond) the block has managed to twist in the trunk. We managed to get the board back up, but damage assessment is on hold till the morrow. Oh well, the great thing about building a boat, is that the repairs are just a continuance of the project.
Next on the agenda is the Atlantic small craft festival in St. Michaels MD. I'm confident that my trailer rig will allow me to get it there. Beyond that it's anybody's guess. If anyone should see a statuesque British woman smacking a blue hulled Chebacco with a netted bottle, be advised that things are probably going better the second time around.
Oh yea pics are going up in the Chebaccos folder under "Boudicea" if space permits
"Let the chips fall where they will..... I've got boats to build."
Cheers y'all.
Ed Heins
New Market VA
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We approached launching day with appropriate plans for celebration including a christening bottle of some not-for-consumption concoction all neatly enclosed in netting, blue blazers, and Deb, my British Lady wife, well rehearsed in her best QE2 accent .
All great ideas, however they didn't get used today. In fact we launched into probably the most inappropriate venue I've ever seen. (Unfortunately, while the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia is resplendant in natural wonders, it exhibits a complete lack of sailing water) Nevertheless, we dunked the boat and celebrations may follow at a later date and location.
The good news. 1) The trailer rig travelled without a hitch. It's apparent I need a tongue extension for shallow ramps, but more on that later. 2) we didn't take on any water we didn't understand. Yes, the centerboard pivot leaks a bit, but that is a project yet to come. 3) I didn't fall off the boat, do a bad "Caber Tossing" impression with the main mast, or otherwise. and 4) I arrived at the launch site with everything I needed for a normal set up and launch.
Now the bad news. 1) Lake Shenandoah ( a pond to anyone other than a realtor), is small, narrow, shallow (something the locals are either unaware of, or unwilling to share). Hence we had to push the boat off the trailer, and reloading it was an experience. 2) I've got a problem in the gaff rigging that will be resolved before the next attempt at a sail. Please ignore the poor sail set in the attached pics. 3) Probably the worst occurance however was a jammed centerboard in the down position. I placed a block on the board to give better purchase which worked well in dry tests, but apparently after numerous groundings ( refer to item 1, !@###$%^ shallow pond) the block has managed to twist in the trunk. We managed to get the board back up, but damage assessment is on hold till the morrow. Oh well, the great thing about building a boat, is that the repairs are just a continuance of the project.
Next on the agenda is the Atlantic small craft festival in St. Michaels MD. I'm confident that my trailer rig will allow me to get it there. Beyond that it's anybody's guess. If anyone should see a statuesque British woman smacking a blue hulled Chebacco with a netted bottle, be advised that things are probably going better the second time around.
Oh yea pics are going up in the Chebaccos folder under "Boudicea" if space permits
"Let the chips fall where they will..... I've got boats to build."
Cheers y'all.
Ed Heins
New Market VA
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