Re: [bolger] growing fascination w/Birdwatcher
> Sprit sails have vastly less cordage andYes, but they can have double sprits and/or clubs on the end of the sprit.
>no battens compared with junk rigs.
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Yes, Bruce, I do. It's Tarantula, from BWAOM. It's what PCB calls a
clone of the C. Ray Hunt designed International 110. It's not really
a clone, but a design inspired by the 110, just as Tennessee was
inspired by ACF cruisers.
The fin is bolted permanently inside a box, like a shallow
centreboard case, that is in turn fixed to the double-ply bottom.
The boat was impractical in the shallow waters of Essex Bay, so
Bolger designed and Story built a trimaran conversion.
Bolger goes on to say that he and Story were talking about building
a "more practical" main hull and rig for the trimaran. Perhaps this
was done and Story is now selling the boat after returning it to its
original form.
For some reason Tarantula reminds me of some ideas presented by Wm.
Garden in Yacht Designs II, where he shows how a Star boat could be
converted into a small cruiser, by adding a cuddy, a wide strake to
increase the freeboard and, perhaps, a mizzen.
Howard
clone of the C. Ray Hunt designed International 110. It's not really
a clone, but a design inspired by the 110, just as Tennessee was
inspired by ACF cruisers.
The fin is bolted permanently inside a box, like a shallow
centreboard case, that is in turn fixed to the double-ply bottom.
The boat was impractical in the shallow waters of Essex Bay, so
Bolger designed and Story built a trimaran conversion.
Bolger goes on to say that he and Story were talking about building
a "more practical" main hull and rig for the trimaran. Perhaps this
was done and Story is now selling the boat after returning it to its
original form.
For some reason Tarantula reminds me of some ideas presented by Wm.
Garden in Yacht Designs II, where he shows how a Star boat could be
converted into a small cruiser, by adding a cuddy, a wide strake to
increase the freeboard and, perhaps, a mizzen.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>http://hallman.org/bolger/fast_daysailer.gif
>
> This Brad Story, Bolger daysailer is unfamiliar to me.
> Anybody else recognize it?
I knew it was a derivative of the 110 but I thought it was from an
earlier book, so I wasted time looking in the wrong place. I have always
had a soft spot for the 110, my father designed a double ended 36'
sloop cruiser in the 1940's that was obviously inspired by the 110. In
latter years the plans lay in a stack of his designs in my parents
closet and I used to sneak them out and pour over them in my room. I
didn't know that fin keels and spade rudders were way ahead of their
time. My father was an superb artist (genes that missed me) and he had
the aesthetics just right. That unbuilt boat and a 12 year old boy made
some far voyages.
HJ
earlier book, so I wasted time looking in the wrong place. I have always
had a soft spot for the 110, my father designed a double ended 36'
sloop cruiser in the 1940's that was obviously inspired by the 110. In
latter years the plans lay in a stack of his designs in my parents
closet and I used to sneak them out and pour over them in my room. I
didn't know that fin keels and spade rudders were way ahead of their
time. My father was an superb artist (genes that missed me) and he had
the aesthetics just right. That unbuilt boat and a 12 year old boy made
some far voyages.
HJ
>Its the Tarantula, BWAOM page 156.
>
>Tom
>
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>
>
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/fast_daysailer.gif
>>
>>This Brad Story, Bolger daysailer is unfamiliar to me.
>>Anybody else recognize it?
>>
>>24' x 4' with a deep ballasted keel, would be fast!
>>[and cheap]
>>I wonder if that keel retracts like the I60?
>>
>>
>
>
>
Its the Tarantula, BWAOM page 156.
Tom
Tom
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>http://hallman.org/bolger/fast_daysailer.gif
>
> This Brad Story, Bolger daysailer is unfamiliar to me.
> Anybody else recognize it?
>
> 24' x 4' with a deep ballasted keel, would be fast!
> [and cheap]
> I wonder if that keel retracts like the I60?
http://hallman.org/bolger/fast_daysailer.gif
This Brad Story, Bolger daysailer is unfamiliar to me.
Anybody else recognize it?
24' x 4' with a deep ballasted keel, would be fast!
[and cheap]
I wonder if that keel retracts like the I60?
This Brad Story, Bolger daysailer is unfamiliar to me.
Anybody else recognize it?
24' x 4' with a deep ballasted keel, would be fast!
[and cheap]
I wonder if that keel retracts like the I60?
> Also, I remember seeing a photo of aYou are not alone in being fascinated with the junk rig.
> Birdwatcher with a Junk sail--another concept which interests me.
Though, different people give different reasons as to why.
What are your reasons?
I think that one thing Bolger likes about the BW
is that it is respectably close winded and surprisingly fast
in casual racing. A junk rig would negate that quality, I bet.
Junk rigs also have the deserved reputation of being
simple and low tech/low stress. Which is a real
improvement over marconi rigged sloops.
Though the BW sprit sail is not really a high tech sail
either. The gain in simplicity of a junk rig over a sprit rig
is very debatable. Sprit sails have vastly less cordage and
no battens compared with junk rigs.
Good morning: I sent the following post a few days ago, but it didn't
get included in the last two digests, so i assume something went amiss.
Here goes again:
I admit to becoming fascinated with the Birdwatcher of late, though
I've never sailed in one. Also, I remember seeing a photo of a
Birdwatcher with a Junk sail--another concept which interests me. At
first glance this would seem to be a simple enough modification of
Bolger's sail plan for Birdwatcher, though I gather he's not fond of
the Junk rig. Any experience with this rig, and/or with this boat,
that can feed either of my fascinations? Thanks.
Bernie Weinraub
get included in the last two digests, so i assume something went amiss.
Here goes again:
I admit to becoming fascinated with the Birdwatcher of late, though
I've never sailed in one. Also, I remember seeing a photo of a
Birdwatcher with a Junk sail--another concept which interests me. At
first glance this would seem to be a simple enough modification of
Bolger's sail plan for Birdwatcher, though I gather he's not fond of
the Junk rig. Any experience with this rig, and/or with this boat,
that can feed either of my fascinations? Thanks.
Bernie Weinraub