Re: [bolger] Re: Repost From ANTISPRAY Builders
Juan,
what interested you in her ?
Built in steel, she should be one of the most able full-time liveaboard sailing-cruisers, assuming you’d invest in careful installation of that insulation-system.
Built in steel, she should be one of the most able full-time liveaboard sailing-cruisers, assuming you’d invest in careful installation of that insulation-system.
Built in plywood/epoxy/fiberglass/foam construction, she’d need a
copper/bronze-plate belly-cladding for ballast plus ice-belt sheathing up to at
last 12” above waterline for more serious ice-conditions movement through the
water, but could then offer better R-value yet for iced-in liveaboard duty, and
might come to be sinking-resistant indeed !
She is one (more or less) end-point of a conceptual development arc, Phil and then we pushed forward hard, likely ‘the standard’ for a most serious sailing cruiser.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
She is one (more or less) end-point of a conceptual development arc, Phil and then we pushed forward hard, likely ‘the standard’ for a most serious sailing cruiser.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Saturday, October 01, 2016 11:39 PM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Repost From ANTISPRAY
Builders
Thank you for your quick response. Very kind of you.
Have a nice day.
JC
Thank you for your quick response. Very kind of you.
Have a nice day.
JC
Juan,
we never published much of the final version
of Design #642 ANTISPRAY-48.
As a go-near-anywhere steel liveaboard (48’ x 12’6” x
2’4”) what made her an initial challenge was the coherent solutions
necessary to develop to make a stout steel-hull a viable 4-season envelope via
an advanced insulation and ventilation approach.
She is the first of three successively bigger steel types
to allow full access of nearly every square-inch of her steel-hull’s interior
surface to keep an eye on emerging rust and treating it
successfully.
There are quite a few steel-hulls out there, but with few
offering a coherent approach to thermal performance and long-term
hull-maintenance.
She will be discussed in a dedicated book on Bolger’s
Steel Designs.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:42 PM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Repost From ANTISPRAY
Builders
I've just found some pics of a scale model in Bolger 2, and seaching here and there I've found an old chat in Bolger 4 where the builders said that they put some photos in the file section, but the files are not there. I just try to gather info about this interesting boat.
Rgds.
I've just found some pics of a scale model in Bolger 2, and seaching here and there I've found an old chat in Bolger 4 where the builders said that they put some photos in the file section, but the files are not there. I just try to gather info about this interesting boat.
Rgds.
Has any been built ?
One was started in Indiana but no hull-shell was completed if memory
serves.
Where have you heard about her ?
Susanne
Sent:Saturday, October 01, 2016 6:37 PM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Repost From ANTISPRAY
Builders
Hi,everyone, I'm trying to find construction photos of Antispray 48. I've found a message with a link in Bolger 4 files but it does not work. Any help will be appreciated.
Best regards.
Juan Carlos Guilarte
Hi,everyone, I'm trying to find construction photos of Antispray 48. I've found a message with a link in Bolger 4 files but it does not work. Any help will be appreciated.
Best regards.
Juan Carlos Guilarte
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "elejon" <jmcdan@h...> wrote:
Mighty impressive John and Susan.Can't say if your "shop" or the
actual boat is doing it to me but both are damned impressive to say
the very least.
It looks like you might be able to set up a production run in that
shop,it is so,so...er whats the word...perfect!
Equally revealing is the amount of set up work you've done before
even cutting your first piece of steel.It must represent a goodly
chunk of up front cash(and lots of sweat labour!) and this is surely
something other/future Big Bolger Boat Builders should keep firmly
in mind while contemplating the costs of a given design.
I'll bet there must be days when you both wish it would just all
come together as easily as your scale model of her :-)
Continued success and please feel free to pleasure us with more
pictures and/or extracts from your builders journal.....you are
keeping a journal I(we) hope :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,who,when recalling much early pictures of John,detects
a distinctly "younger" looking John in these latest pictures and
suspects John may have fell upon the perfect rejuvinative
therapy.....at least your looking younger in the pictures John:-)
> Feel free to ask questions or comment.HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! ABSOLUTELYFLAMINGBEAUTIFUL!!!!!!
>
> John & Susan
Mighty impressive John and Susan.Can't say if your "shop" or the
actual boat is doing it to me but both are damned impressive to say
the very least.
It looks like you might be able to set up a production run in that
shop,it is so,so...er whats the word...perfect!
Equally revealing is the amount of set up work you've done before
even cutting your first piece of steel.It must represent a goodly
chunk of up front cash(and lots of sweat labour!) and this is surely
something other/future Big Bolger Boat Builders should keep firmly
in mind while contemplating the costs of a given design.
I'll bet there must be days when you both wish it would just all
come together as easily as your scale model of her :-)
Continued success and please feel free to pleasure us with more
pictures and/or extracts from your builders journal.....you are
keeping a journal I(we) hope :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,who,when recalling much early pictures of John,detects
a distinctly "younger" looking John in these latest pictures and
suspects John may have fell upon the perfect rejuvinative
therapy.....at least your looking younger in the pictures John:-)
Nels, Phil, and the group,
Yes, we're alive and well-ding !!
Thanks for prodding us to update the Group on our ANTISPRAY 48
project. I've posted several pictures in the Photos section of the
Bolger4 Yahoo Groups site:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/lst
Look in the ANTISPRAY48 folder. We're extemely pleased to date with
how Phil & Susanne's metallic "stitch'n'glue" design has gone
together.
Feel free to ask questions or comment.
John & Susan
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
...think it's about time these people checked in and updated us,...
Yes, we're alive and well-ding !!
Thanks for prodding us to update the Group on our ANTISPRAY 48
project. I've posted several pictures in the Photos section of the
Bolger4 Yahoo Groups site:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/lst
Look in the ANTISPRAY48 folder. We're extemely pleased to date with
how Phil & Susanne's metallic "stitch'n'glue" design has gone
together.
Feel free to ask questions or comment.
John & Susan
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
...think it's about time these people checked in and updated us,...
FWIW, (for what it's worth) Phil and Susanne said that
John was welding away. I dropped by John's a little
over a year ago and he had all or almost all of the
large panels built and was fairly ready to assemble
them into a boat-like structure.
John may be too busy building to correspond here.
Phil Smith
John was welding away. I dropped by John's a little
over a year ago and he had all or almost all of the
large panels built and was fairly ready to assemble
them into a boat-like structure.
John may be too busy building to correspond here.
Phil Smith
think it's about time these people checked in and updated us, don't
you?
Below is a copy of msg 6990 from this group.
From: "John R. McDaniel" <jmcdan@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 29, 2000 11:06 pm
Subject: Big (but not HUGE) Sharpie - ANTISPRAY 48
Pertinent to 'Big Sharpies': File ANTISPRAY48.jpg has been posted
in the "Files" section. ANTISPRAY is a custom PB&F design (#642)
which we are currently building.
PB&F said this, and more, about the 48' x 12'6" x 28" hullform,
"We have developed the traditional Long Island Sound sharpie into a
shape which offers decent up-wind capability,is fast reaching and
running, safe for off-shore work, and offers adequate cruising
interior-volume." (Coastal Cruising, Jan/Feb 1997).
There are at least two sister sharpie designs that followed ANTISPRAY
which are considerably larger.... WALRUS and PROVIDENCE....both in
the 60' region. At half again ANTISPRAY's 41,000 lb. displacement,
we consider WALRUS and PROVIDENCE to be HUGE!
Like any true Bolger maniac, we'd be glad to discuss any aspect "our"
design. It's Bolger, it's Big (but not huge), and it's under
construction.
John & Susan
you?
Below is a copy of msg 6990 from this group.
From: "John R. McDaniel" <jmcdan@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 29, 2000 11:06 pm
Subject: Big (but not HUGE) Sharpie - ANTISPRAY 48
Pertinent to 'Big Sharpies': File ANTISPRAY48.jpg has been posted
in the "Files" section. ANTISPRAY is a custom PB&F design (#642)
which we are currently building.
PB&F said this, and more, about the 48' x 12'6" x 28" hullform,
"We have developed the traditional Long Island Sound sharpie into a
shape which offers decent up-wind capability,is fast reaching and
running, safe for off-shore work, and offers adequate cruising
interior-volume." (Coastal Cruising, Jan/Feb 1997).
There are at least two sister sharpie designs that followed ANTISPRAY
which are considerably larger.... WALRUS and PROVIDENCE....both in
the 60' region. At half again ANTISPRAY's 41,000 lb. displacement,
we consider WALRUS and PROVIDENCE to be HUGE!
Like any true Bolger maniac, we'd be glad to discuss any aspect "our"
design. It's Bolger, it's Big (but not huge), and it's under
construction.
John & Susan