Re: [bolger] Re: deisel outboard motor?
A while back on this group (2 years?) a member panned china diesel, said
that current management didn't do as good a job of checking quality
control as previously. As I remember the discussion these engines are
kind of a standard with 10's of thousands of units built. Some
manufactures did better than others.
HJ
Howard Stephenson wrote:
that current management didn't do as good a job of checking quality
control as previously. As I remember the discussion these engines are
kind of a standard with 10's of thousands of units built. Some
manufactures did better than others.
HJ
Howard Stephenson wrote:
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
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>>Shows their 'high thrust' outboard motor which has
>>long intrigued me, and the price is right.
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>... but mind your fingers!
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>There are inboard diesels at the same site. Bolger's Miniature Steel
>Tug was designed around a 30 h.p. Chinese version. He said he'd seen
>one installed; he, and others better qualified that he thought they
>looked "an excellent job of engineering".
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>He also commented about the low price coming out of the hides of the
>workers. These days, the people left behind in the rural villages are
>worse off than those with jobs -- but I suppose some of the money
>gained from foreign sales gets back to them.
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Hello again Mr, Pannell
I just answered my own question by actually paying attention to what is
written on the page I was copying.
The motor mentioned below is gasoline powered, not diesel.
However it is a good price.
Thank you for your reply
Mark Mirski
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Mark mirski wrote:
I just answered my own question by actually paying attention to what is
written on the page I was copying.
The motor mentioned below is gasoline powered, not diesel.
However it is a good price.
Thank you for your reply
Mark Mirski
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Mark mirski wrote:
>Hi* *Tom Pannell
>I just copied this from the morgan diesel page and it appears to me that
>the 5hp weighs only 63lbs.
>Am I missing something?http://www.morganequipment.net/page4.html
>Respectfully,
>Mark Mirskianshin@...
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Hi* *Tom Pannell
I just copied this from the morgan diesel page and it appears to me that
the 5hp weighs only 63lbs.
Am I missing something?
Respectfully,
Mark Mirskianshin@...
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Diesel Outboard*_/
/http://www.morganequipment.net/page4.html
*SHAFT LENGTH */20" /
*WEIGHT *63lbs (ship weight 89lbs)* OUTPUT POWER
*/*5HP(3.7kW)/3600rpm*/* IDLING SPEED */*1800rpm*/*
ENGINE MODE */*AIRCOOLED, 4 STROKE*/*
DISPLACEMENT */*163 cc*/*
FUEL VOLUME */*2.L*/*
OIL VOLUME */*0.65L
*/*IGNITION MODE */*INDUCTIVE FIRING*/*
FUEL CONSUMPTION */*395 g/kWh*/*
STARTING MODE */*MANUAL*/*
GEAR MODE */*SHAFT GEARING*/*
GEAR RATIO */*1.46
*/*STEERING */*TILLER*/*
GEAR SHIFT */*Forward & Neutral
*/*GEAR OIL VOLUME */*0.2L*/*
*/* *//*$599.00*/
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"steelcb wrote:/
I just copied this from the morgan diesel page and it appears to me that
the 5hp weighs only 63lbs.
Am I missing something?
Respectfully,
Mark Mirskianshin@...
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Diesel Outboard*_/
/http://www.morganequipment.net/page4.html
*SHAFT LENGTH */20" /
*WEIGHT *63lbs (ship weight 89lbs)* OUTPUT POWER
*/*5HP(3.7kW)/3600rpm*/* IDLING SPEED */*1800rpm*/*
ENGINE MODE */*AIRCOOLED, 4 STROKE*/*
DISPLACEMENT */*163 cc*/*
FUEL VOLUME */*2.L*/*
OIL VOLUME */*0.65L
*/*IGNITION MODE */*INDUCTIVE FIRING*/*
FUEL CONSUMPTION */*395 g/kWh*/*
STARTING MODE */*MANUAL*/*
GEAR MODE */*SHAFT GEARING*/*
GEAR RATIO */*1.46
*/*STEERING */*TILLER*/*
GEAR SHIFT */*Forward & Neutral
*/*GEAR OIL VOLUME */*0.2L*/*
*/* *//*$599.00*/
/___________________________________________________
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>Just looked at that Morgan Equipment site and went to the diesel
>outboard link. They have a 6 hp and a 10 hp. The weight of the 10hp
>is a whopping 165lbs and the 6hp model is 132lbs! The power is
>certainly there, but I wouldn't want to put one of those on a boat of
>a size calling for a 6 or 10 hp outboard. That's about twice the
>weight of a comparable 2 stroke. Also, one would find taking such an
>outboard on or off the boat to be impractical unless there is a small
>crane on your dock or you are built like the governor of California.
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>The Chinese initially developed the diesel outboard with having one on
>the transom of a heavy fishing boat that would tow other fishing boats
>to and from the fishing grounds. At least when I looked at the China
>diesel site a year ago, that's what they were describing as a good use.
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>As much as I would like to get a diesel outboard(just for the
>increased safety in fuel handling, not to mention economy) I'm going
>to have to stick with, at most, a small 4 stroke.
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>Tulls Bay, NC"/
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Just looked at that Morgan Equipment site and went to the diesel
outboard link. They have a 6 hp and a 10 hp. The weight of the 10hp
is a whopping 165lbs and the 6hp model is 132lbs! The power is
certainly there, but I wouldn't want to put one of those on a boat of
a size calling for a 6 or 10 hp outboard. That's about twice the
weight of a comparable 2 stroke. Also, one would find taking such an
outboard on or off the boat to be impractical unless there is a small
crane on your dock or you are built like the governor of California.
The Chinese initially developed the diesel outboard with having one on
the transom of a heavy fishing boat that would tow other fishing boats
to and from the fishing grounds. At least when I looked at the China
diesel site a year ago, that's what they were describing as a good use.
As much as I would like to get a diesel outboard(just for the
increased safety in fuel handling, not to mention economy) I'm going
to have to stick with, at most, a small 4 stroke.
Tom Pannell
Tulls Bay, NC
outboard link. They have a 6 hp and a 10 hp. The weight of the 10hp
is a whopping 165lbs and the 6hp model is 132lbs! The power is
certainly there, but I wouldn't want to put one of those on a boat of
a size calling for a 6 or 10 hp outboard. That's about twice the
weight of a comparable 2 stroke. Also, one would find taking such an
outboard on or off the boat to be impractical unless there is a small
crane on your dock or you are built like the governor of California.
The Chinese initially developed the diesel outboard with having one on
the transom of a heavy fishing boat that would tow other fishing boats
to and from the fishing grounds. At least when I looked at the China
diesel site a year ago, that's what they were describing as a good use.
As much as I would like to get a diesel outboard(just for the
increased safety in fuel handling, not to mention economy) I'm going
to have to stick with, at most, a small 4 stroke.
Tom Pannell
Tulls Bay, NC
> Tug was designed around a 30 h.p. Chinese version.I would bet that 25% of the diesel engines in
the world are China Diesels. I love Bolger's
Miniature Diesel Tug, Bolgeresque for being
made just short enough to avoid taxes.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
There are inboard diesels at the same site. Bolger's Miniature Steel
Tug was designed around a 30 h.p. Chinese version. He said he'd seen
one installed; he, and others better qualified that he thought they
looked "an excellent job of engineering".
He also commented about the low price coming out of the hides of the
workers. These days, the people left behind in the rural villages are
worse off than those with jobs -- but I suppose some of the money
gained from foreign sales gets back to them.
Howard
>http://www.chinadiesel.com/... but mind your fingers!
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> Shows their 'high thrust' outboard motor which has
> long intrigued me, and the price is right.
There are inboard diesels at the same site. Bolger's Miniature Steel
Tug was designed around a 30 h.p. Chinese version. He said he'd seen
one installed; he, and others better qualified that he thought they
looked "an excellent job of engineering".
He also commented about the low price coming out of the hides of the
workers. These days, the people left behind in the rural villages are
worse off than those with jobs -- but I suppose some of the money
gained from foreign sales gets back to them.
Howard
http://www.chinadiesel.com/images/170/170%20Out%20board%20full%20from%20left.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/6r5mx
http://www.chinadiesel.com/
Shows their 'high thrust' outboard motor which has
long intrigued me, and the price is right.
http://tinyurl.com/6r5mx
http://www.chinadiesel.com/
Shows their 'high thrust' outboard motor which has
long intrigued me, and the price is right.
A long time ago "Small Boat Journal" had an article on Chinese diesel out boards. As I recall, the thrust of the article was that the outboard they used was heavt, noisy, and had a lot of vibration. That was at least 20 years ago, and the new ones may be different..
John T
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark mirski
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:12 AM
Subject: [bolger] deisel outboard motor?
With all this talk of bio-deisel discussion, has any one experienced any
of these small deisel outboard motors?
http://www.morganequipment.net/page4.html
Mark
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With all this talk of bio-deisel discussion, has any one experienced any
of these small deisel outboard motors?
http://www.morganequipment.net/page4.html
Mark
of these small deisel outboard motors?
http://www.morganequipment.net/page4.html
Mark
Ah, infrastructure...
http://www.gobiodiesel.org/tiki-index.php
http://biodieselblog.com/
http://www.biodieselwarehouse.com/
Alas, it still won't solve that pesky CO2 emission problem. And even the very advanced
German diesel cars may still be pretty sooty otherwise.
Mark
Sam Glasscock wrote:
http://www.gobiodiesel.org/tiki-index.php
http://biodieselblog.com/
http://www.biodieselwarehouse.com/
Alas, it still won't solve that pesky CO2 emission problem. And even the very advanced
German diesel cars may still be pretty sooty otherwise.
Mark
Sam Glasscock wrote:
> Bio Diesel is a neat idea and appeals to me for a
> variety of reasons (it's cheap, green and appeals to
> my scrounger instincts). If it were to be used on a
> large scale, however, the waste-oil source from fryers
> would quickly be exhausted, and if crops were grown
> explicitly for bio-diesel use, it wouldn't cost 20
> cents/gallon for long.g