Re: [bolger] Re: AUCKLAND CATAMARAN (BWOM)
Along similar lines for construction ease Bill Kristoffersons designs,
the 24 ft cat and tri are both very appealing to me.
http://www.prcn.org/kismet/index.html
HJ
woofers94401 wrote:
the 24 ft cat and tri are both very appealing to me.
http://www.prcn.org/kismet/index.html
HJ
woofers94401 wrote:
>I yahoo'd, got this linke and was able to get right to it...
>
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/gilbert/gumboots/
>
>Incidentally, I wonder what made PBs first cat. such a "failure.."
>
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@y...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>--- Susan Davis <futabachan@y...> wrote:
>>Anybody have a source for info on gumboots? Duckworks
>>lists it, but I can't open the link. Sam
>>
>>
>>>A non-Bolger alternative of similar size, cost, and
>>>ease of
>>>construction would be Jeff Gilbert's "Gumboots",
>>>which also has
>>>ocean-crossinga ccommodations on board where the
>>>Auckland cat is
>>>strictly a daysailer.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Susan Davis <futabachan@y...>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Hi John,
Sorry to have given then impression I was any kind of expert. I'm
just someone with too much spare time and a certain amount of
knowledge in this area, mostly acquired directly from Lock Crowther,
a master of multihull design until his untimely death a decade or so
ago. The only plans for AC I've seen are the drawings in BWAOM. The
only multihull I've built was a 20' daysailer trimaran, over 40 years
ago.
I was trying to say that AC's design is 50 years behind modern
multihull thinking. Others have tried balanced jibs, planing hulls
and centreboards not mounted under hulls and found they didn't work
well enough to persist with. I don't know any other examples of a
rudder like this one, for good reason, as I'm fairly sure it won't
work just when it's needed, as the windward hull starts to lift.
Modern racing cats are proportionately wider than this and the
crossbeams are farther from the water and properly faired.
I assume this is the Seawind catamaran:
http://www.cancuncatamaran1.netfirms.com/aboutme.htmI don't think AC
would stand a chance against it. Your best bet would be to try and
find a used one -- possibly cheaper than building an AC. To gain an
advantage you could try something like a flat single-luff spinnaker
for light-air downwind sailing, when apparent wind will turn a broad
reach into a close reach.
By the way, Crowther tried angled daggerboards like Seawind's in
about 1961 and found they didn't provide as much vertical lift as
he'd hoped.
Howard
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Spoering" <spoering@e...> wrote:
Sorry to have given then impression I was any kind of expert. I'm
just someone with too much spare time and a certain amount of
knowledge in this area, mostly acquired directly from Lock Crowther,
a master of multihull design until his untimely death a decade or so
ago. The only plans for AC I've seen are the drawings in BWAOM. The
only multihull I've built was a 20' daysailer trimaran, over 40 years
ago.
I was trying to say that AC's design is 50 years behind modern
multihull thinking. Others have tried balanced jibs, planing hulls
and centreboards not mounted under hulls and found they didn't work
well enough to persist with. I don't know any other examples of a
rudder like this one, for good reason, as I'm fairly sure it won't
work just when it's needed, as the windward hull starts to lift.
Modern racing cats are proportionately wider than this and the
crossbeams are farther from the water and properly faired.
I assume this is the Seawind catamaran:
http://www.cancuncatamaran1.netfirms.com/aboutme.htmI don't think AC
would stand a chance against it. Your best bet would be to try and
find a used one -- possibly cheaper than building an AC. To gain an
advantage you could try something like a flat single-luff spinnaker
for light-air downwind sailing, when apparent wind will turn a broad
reach into a close reach.
By the way, Crowther tried angled daggerboards like Seawind's in
about 1961 and found they didn't provide as much vertical lift as
he'd hoped.
Howard
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Spoering" <spoering@e...> wrote:
> Hi Howard --Auckland Cat.
>
> Thanks for your replies to my query re. P.B.'s
Hi Don -
You've made me a wonderful offer --If it's not an expensive call I
would appreciate it if you can give Howard a call and see wether or not he
actually built the Auckland Cat or still has the plans and just email me
the results as I don't see him on the Bolger groups membership list.
Thanking you in advance - - - - Aloha Jack Spoering - Ft
Lauderdale, Florida
You've made me a wonderful offer --If it's not an expensive call I
would appreciate it if you can give Howard a call and see wether or not he
actually built the Auckland Cat or still has the plans and just email me
the results as I don't see him on the Bolger groups membership list.
Thanking you in advance - - - - Aloha Jack Spoering - Ft
Lauderdale, Florida
> [Original Message](978) 282-1349
> From: dbaldnz <oink@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 10/7/2004 3:06:50 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: AUCKLAND CATAMARAN (BWOM)
>
>
>
> Hi Jack,
> I looked him up in the phone book a couple of years ago here in
> Auckland, didn't ring him, but took a look around the coast where he
> lives, but never saw the boat.
> I have his name, address and phone no, which is in the current book,
> if you want it? Or I could ring him if you want me to.
> Let me know.
> DonB
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Spoering" <spoering@e...> wrote:
> > Hi All -
> >
> > Does anyone know if (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter
> 33) Colin Frankham of New Zealand ever built the Auckland Catamaran
> that Phill Bolger designed for him.? I'd really like to hear
> something about her performance. Seems to me that if one had
> access to the rig and sail that here would be a relatively
> inexpensive sailor that could really give those hi-class guys at the
> yacht club with their $200,000.00 plastic cats a real scare.
> >
> >
> Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale Fl
> >
> >
> > John Spoering
> > spoering@e...
> > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Don -
Thanks for all your replies re. my request for info on P.B.'s Auckland
Cat. Sorry, about my oversight of not distinguishing that I'm NOT looking
for an all out racing cat, she would never keep up with the new ultralight
racing machines out there now . But, could she keep up with boats like the
Australian built "Sea Wind Cat" or the "Main Cat" that are so popular (and
costly) here in the local Florida coastal races ?
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale
Thanks for all your replies re. my request for info on P.B.'s Auckland
Cat. Sorry, about my oversight of not distinguishing that I'm NOT looking
for an all out racing cat, she would never keep up with the new ultralight
racing machines out there now . But, could she keep up with boats like the
Australian built "Sea Wind Cat" or the "Main Cat" that are so popular (and
costly) here in the local Florida coastal races ?
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale
> [Original Message](978) 282-1349
> From: dbaldnz <oink@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 10/7/2004 11:03:06 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: AUCKLAND CATAMARAN (BWOM)
>
>
>
> I feel some are taking the AC too seriously. I'm pretty sure it is
> meant as a daysailing fun boat, fast for the outlay and quick easy
> construction. You are comparing apples with oranges when comparing
> AC with cruising cats,
> DonB
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > they could do a lot worse than look at James Wharram's boats.
> >
> > Jeff's big complaint about Wharram is that his smaller (<30ft)
> boats
> > don't have even proper sitting headroom.
> >
> > Peter
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Howard --
Thanks for your replies to my query re. P.B.'s Auckland Cat. I'd be
interested in building one to take part in Florida races like the Ft
Lauderdale and Miami race to Key West and the Columbus Day Regatta.
Scaling off the diagrams in BWOM it looks like the hulls are about 3' wide
and high, I can live with this by puting a Wharram (I've built 4 of these)
type cabin over the large hatch shown on the plans in order to meet race
requirements of berth, head and cooker inside.
What I'd like to hear from someone is - - - can this cat keep up with
the "Sea Wind" cats (30-33') that are so prevalent here ? These are
cruising class not all out races like the Roberts designs.
Aloha - Jack Spoering
Thanks for your replies to my query re. P.B.'s Auckland Cat. I'd be
interested in building one to take part in Florida races like the Ft
Lauderdale and Miami race to Key West and the Columbus Day Regatta.
Scaling off the diagrams in BWOM it looks like the hulls are about 3' wide
and high, I can live with this by puting a Wharram (I've built 4 of these)
type cabin over the large hatch shown on the plans in order to meet race
requirements of berth, head and cooker inside.
What I'd like to hear from someone is - - - can this cat keep up with
the "Sea Wind" cats (30-33') that are so prevalent here ? These are
cruising class not all out races like the Roberts designs.
Aloha - Jack Spoering
> [Original Message](978) 282-1349
> From: Howard Stephenson <stephensonhw@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 10/7/2004 3:32:15 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: AUCKLAND CATAMARAN (BWOM)
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Spoering" <spoering@e...> wrote:
> > Hi All -
> >
> > Does anyone know if (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter
> >33) Colin Frankham of New Zealand ever built the Auckland Catamaran
> >that Phill Bolger designed for him.? I'd really like to hear
> >something about her performance. Seems to me that if one had
> >access to the rig and sail that here would be a relatively
> >inexpensive sailor that could really give those hi-class guys at the
> >yacht club with their $200,000.00 plastic cats a real scare.
>
> As one who learnt about the design of multihulls directly from Lock
> Crowther, I'm confident in saying that AC would be (relatively) cheap
> and easy to build but wouldn't compete with a modern racing catamaran
> of a similar size. It would beat some of the cruising cats whose
> design was not optimized for speed.
>
> The design is even less sophisticated than Charles Cunningham's 1950s
> designs, such as the Yvonne and Quickcat. Go to
>
>http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/9449/
>
> ... for information on the Yvonne, whose plans were available in 1954
> and most likely still are. The class still holds championships.
>
> AC's biggest deficiency is the centreboard arrangement. I can't quite
> work out the fairing, if any, on the crossbeams, but they look too
> close to the water anyway.
>
> Howard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Peter:
for my next project after the I60 is in the water. If she's really
being completed and built, that's good news.
-- Sue --
(who has more than enough on her plate at the moment, though)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> [Jeff Gilbert] was just finishing the drawings of a 25 foot cruisingOoo, Cartaphylla? I've had my eye on her for a while as a possibility
> schooner last I corresponded with him.
for my next project after the I60 is in the water. If she's really
being completed and built, that's good news.
-- Sue --
(who has more than enough on her plate at the moment, though)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Yes, I felt that if he was looking at the AC, he wouldn't be
considering cruisers.
A friend showed me a newspaper advert for a Bolger Centennial2 last
weekend. Without the high house. For the equivalent of us$3300.
Sadly the quality of the newspaper photo was so bad...not worth
scanning. A pity because the original would be a nice sailing
picture.
DonB
considering cruisers.
A friend showed me a newspaper advert for a Bolger Centennial2 last
weekend. Without the high house. For the equivalent of us$3300.
Sadly the quality of the newspaper photo was so bad...not worth
scanning. A pity because the original would be a nice sailing
picture.
DonB
> True enough, Don. John's first post was comparing (contrasting) ACracing
> with "$200,000 plastic cats" without saying whether he meant
> or cruising boats. The dialogue went on from there.the
>
> Not much headroom inside the AC, but plenty if you're sitting on
> deck, as long as you watch the boom.
>
> Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
with "$200,000 plastic cats" without saying whether he meant racing
or cruising boats. The dialogue went on from there.
Not much headroom inside the AC, but plenty if you're sitting on the
deck, as long as you watch the boom.
Howard
>True enough, Don. John's first post was comparing (contrasting) AC
> I feel some are taking the AC too seriously. I'm pretty sure it is
> meant as a daysailing fun boat, fast for the outlay and quick easy
> construction. You are comparing apples with oranges when comparing
> AC with cruising cats,
> DonB
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > they could do a lot worse than look at James Wharram's boats.
> >
> > Jeff's big complaint about Wharram is that his smaller (<30ft)
> boats don't have even proper sitting headroom.
with "$200,000 plastic cats" without saying whether he meant racing
or cruising boats. The dialogue went on from there.
Not much headroom inside the AC, but plenty if you're sitting on the
deck, as long as you watch the boom.
Howard
I feel some are taking the AC too seriously. I'm pretty sure it is
meant as a daysailing fun boat, fast for the outlay and quick easy
construction. You are comparing apples with oranges when comparing
AC with cruising cats,
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
wrote:
meant as a daysailing fun boat, fast for the outlay and quick easy
construction. You are comparing apples with oranges when comparing
AC with cruising cats,
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
wrote:
>boats
> > they could do a lot worse than look at James Wharram's boats.
>
> Jeff's big complaint about Wharram is that his smaller (<30ft)
> don't have even proper sitting headroom.
>
> Peter
> they could do a lot worse than look at James Wharram's boats.Jeff's big complaint about Wharram is that his smaller (<30ft) boats
don't have even proper sitting headroom.
Peter
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Will Samson" <willsamson@y...> wrote:
http://www.jameswharramdesigns.co.uk/
I admit a grudging admiration of his designs. They shouldn't work,
but they seem to meet the purpose for which they were designed. As
far as I know, considering all the rank amateurs who have built and
sailed them across oceans, they have a good safety record.
Howard
> If anybody is thinking about a proven low-tech catamaran design,they could do a lot worse than look at James Wharram's boats.
http://www.jameswharramdesigns.co.uk/
I admit a grudging admiration of his designs. They shouldn't work,
but they seem to meet the purpose for which they were designed. As
far as I know, considering all the rank amateurs who have built and
sailed them across oceans, they have a good safety record.
Howard
If anybody is thinking about a proven low-tech catamaran design, they could do a lot worse than look at James Wharram's boats.http://www.jameswharramdesigns.co.uk/
They range from 14 feet to 55 feet in length, and just about all of them have been built in large numbers.
Bill
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They range from 14 feet to 55 feet in length, and just about all of them have been built in large numbers.
Bill
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> Does Jeff Gilbert have a track record of successful multihullHaving corresponded with Jeff at some length, I'll toss in some info.
> designs? I wouldn't invest my time and money in an
> untested catamaran design.
I don't know if he has any catamarans in the water. I tend to think
not. I appreciate the desire to stay away from an untested design,
and for many it makes a lot of sense. The question is whether there
is a design you like.
The Gumboots is in mid-development. He has changed the hull from the
last distributed drawing in order to get the boat into a shipping
container (dismounted, of course). I suspect that it will likely sail
well in a straight line. Whether the speed will be competitive with a
boat from a more experienced designer, only time can tell. Jeff has a
commitment to strong construction, but anything can happen in a one-
off.
There are two other Gilbert catamaran designs in the works. Hot Chili
is about 15 feet. One was built to approximately completed hull
stage, but the builder decided to go J-24 racing instead of finishing
the boat. AlleyCat is about 20 feet. The first boat is in build,
probably slowly. AlleyCat is not envisioned to be a fast boat, and,
IMHO, is marginal from a safety point of view since it relies on the
sailor not to press too hard.
He was just finishing the drawings of a 25 foot cruising schooner
last I corresponded with him.
Jeff is somewhat now and then with regards to communications. On his
Yahoo group, there was a comment that he has had computer trouble
lately.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jgbuilders/messages
Peter
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "woofers94401" <gregoryu@p...> wrote:
designs? I wouldn't invest my time and money in an untested catamaran
design.
They are much harder to design than it looks because of the stresses
generated by their stability and speed and the need to keep weight to
a minimum due to the limited underwater volume of the hulls that must
be slim to be fast. When sailing fast practically all the weight must
be borne on only one hull. If you are going to build it heavy to make
it strong, you might as well have a monohull -- only one hull to
build instead or two.
Howard
>Does Jeff Gilbert have a track record of successful multihull
> I yahoo'd, got this linke and was able to get right to it...
>
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/gilbert/gumboots/
>
> Incidentally, I wonder what made PBs first cat. such a "failure.."
designs? I wouldn't invest my time and money in an untested catamaran
design.
They are much harder to design than it looks because of the stresses
generated by their stability and speed and the need to keep weight to
a minimum due to the limited underwater volume of the hulls that must
be slim to be fast. When sailing fast practically all the weight must
be borne on only one hull. If you are going to build it heavy to make
it strong, you might as well have a monohull -- only one hull to
build instead or two.
Howard
I yahoo'd, got this linke and was able to get right to it...
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/gilbert/gumboots/
Incidentally, I wonder what made PBs first cat. such a "failure.."
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@y...>
wrote:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/gilbert/gumboots/
Incidentally, I wonder what made PBs first cat. such a "failure.."
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@y...>
wrote:
>
> --- Susan Davis <futabachan@y...> wrote:
> Anybody have a source for info on gumboots? Duckworks
> lists it, but I can't open the link. Sam
> > A non-Bolger alternative of similar size, cost, and
> > ease of
> > construction would be Jeff Gilbert's "Gumboots",
> > which also has
> > ocean-crossinga ccommodations on board where the
> > Auckland cat is
> > strictly a daysailer.
> >
> > --
> > Susan Davis <futabachan@y...>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Spoering" <spoering@e...> wrote:
Crowther, I'm confident in saying that AC would be (relatively) cheap
and easy to build but wouldn't compete with a modern racing catamaran
of a similar size. It would beat some of the cruising cats whose
design was not optimized for speed.
The design is even less sophisticated than Charles Cunningham's 1950s
designs, such as the Yvonne and Quickcat. Go to
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/9449/
... for information on the Yvonne, whose plans were available in 1954
and most likely still are. The class still holds championships.
AC's biggest deficiency is the centreboard arrangement. I can't quite
work out the fairing, if any, on the crossbeams, but they look too
close to the water anyway.
Howard
> Hi All -As one who learnt about the design of multihulls directly from Lock
>
> Does anyone know if (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter
>33) Colin Frankham of New Zealand ever built the Auckland Catamaran
>that Phill Bolger designed for him.? I'd really like to hear
>something about her performance. Seems to me that if one had
>access to the rig and sail that here would be a relatively
>inexpensive sailor that could really give those hi-class guys at the
>yacht club with their $200,000.00 plastic cats a real scare.
Crowther, I'm confident in saying that AC would be (relatively) cheap
and easy to build but wouldn't compete with a modern racing catamaran
of a similar size. It would beat some of the cruising cats whose
design was not optimized for speed.
The design is even less sophisticated than Charles Cunningham's 1950s
designs, such as the Yvonne and Quickcat. Go to
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/9449/
... for information on the Yvonne, whose plans were available in 1954
and most likely still are. The class still holds championships.
AC's biggest deficiency is the centreboard arrangement. I can't quite
work out the fairing, if any, on the crossbeams, but they look too
close to the water anyway.
Howard
--- Susan Davis <futabachan@...> wrote:
Anybody have a source for info on gumboots? Duckworks
lists it, but I can't open the link. Sam
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> A non-Bolger alternative of similar size, cost, and__________________________________________________
> ease of
> construction would be Jeff Gilbert's "Gumboots",
> which also has
> ocean-crossinga ccommodations on board where the
> Auckland cat is
> strictly a daysailer.
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>
>
>
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Hi Jack,
I looked him up in the phone book a couple of years ago here in
Auckland, didn't ring him, but took a look around the coast where he
lives, but never saw the boat.
I have his name, address and phone no, which is in the current book,
if you want it? Or I could ring him if you want me to.
Let me know.
DonB
I looked him up in the phone book a couple of years ago here in
Auckland, didn't ring him, but took a look around the coast where he
lives, but never saw the boat.
I have his name, address and phone no, which is in the current book,
if you want it? Or I could ring him if you want me to.
Let me know.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Spoering" <spoering@e...> wrote:
> Hi All -
>
> Does anyone know if (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter
33) Colin Frankham of New Zealand ever built the Auckland Catamaran
that Phill Bolger designed for him.? I'd really like to hear
something about her performance. Seems to me that if one had
access to the rig and sail that here would be a relatively
inexpensive sailor that could really give those hi-class guys at the
yacht club with their $200,000.00 plastic cats a real scare.
>
>
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale Fl
>
>
> John Spoering
> spoering@e...
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> Does anyone know if (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter 33)A non-Bolger alternative of similar size, cost, and ease of
> Colin Frankham of New Zealand ever built the Auckland Catamaran that
> Phill Bolger designed for him.? I'd really like to hear something
> about her performance. Seems to me that if one had access to the rig
> and sail that here would be a relatively inexpensive sailor that
> could really give those hi-class guys at the yacht club with their
> $200,000.00 plastic cats a real scare.
construction would be Jeff Gilbert's "Gumboots", which also has
ocean-crossinga ccommodations on board where the Auckland cat is
strictly a daysailer.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> Where does one go to see the lines/ pic of this cat-jimPages 166 and 167 of Bolger's book _Boats With an Open Mind_
Amazon.com has the 'search inside this book' feature,
so you can read the chapter [if you don't have the book].
It is Bolger's best book, a must read.
If the cookie monster and tinyurl works, this click might take you there.
http://tinyurl.com/4brb7
Auckland Cat-
Where does one go to see the lines/ pic of this cat-jim
Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
and not read that chapter closely until now.
What an interesting boat! The hull seems
simple to build, and yes it looks very fast.
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Where does one go to see the lines/ pic of this cat-jim
Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
> (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter 33)I have read from that book a hundred times
> Auckland Catamaran
and not read that chapter closely until now.
What an interesting boat! The hull seems
simple to build, and yes it looks very fast.
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>> (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter 33)Is there any photos, files, scans, website to look at?
>> Auckland Catamaran
>
> I have read from that book a hundred times
> and not read that chapter closely until now.
> What an interesting boat! The hull seems
> simple to build, and yes it looks very fast.
Thanks, regards, Máximo.
> (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter 33)I have read from that book a hundred times
> Auckland Catamaran
and not read that chapter closely until now.
What an interesting boat! The hull seems
simple to build, and yes it looks very fast.
Hi All -
Does anyone know if (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter 33) Colin Frankham of New Zealand ever built the Auckland Catamaran that Phill Bolger designed for him.? I'd really like to hear something about her performance. Seems to me that if one had access to the rig and sail that here would be a relatively inexpensive sailor that could really give those hi-class guys at the yacht club with their $200,000.00 plastic cats a real scare.
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale Fl
John Spoering
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Does anyone know if (Boating With An Open Mind - chapter 33) Colin Frankham of New Zealand ever built the Auckland Catamaran that Phill Bolger designed for him.? I'd really like to hear something about her performance. Seems to me that if one had access to the rig and sail that here would be a relatively inexpensive sailor that could really give those hi-class guys at the yacht club with their $200,000.00 plastic cats a real scare.
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale Fl
John Spoering
spoering@...
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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