Re: [bolger] Re: More pics of a Spur II Uploaded to Bolger4photos group.
I thought so too when I looked at the photo,it didn't appear so in the flesh so to speak, but I'm pretty sure its an optical illusion, given my avereage photographic skills, I probably wasn't dead centre on when it took the photo and the fact that the support to hold the stem, added on to the building frame is a wedge shape and this probably accounts for this illusion?!. I'm going down there tomorrow, so I'll check this out. A poor excuse if it is a bit warped, but no boat is ever truly symmetrical! If it is slightly curved to the portside as you say, well there's probably not too much to be done about it, everythings glued and screwed in place, but I'm sure he'd have checked to see it was right before it was permanently fixed in place!
A note to future builders of Spur IIs. Don't leave any of the station molds out when building, especially if using very light/thin plywood. My father,while being quite an experienced boat builder left a few out, thinking things would be OK, but had to improvise with props to attain the right, fair shape. He used 6mm -1/4" Okume(I think it was Okume, maybe Gabon) ply and found this quite flexible. 7mm ply might have been better(Not quite so flexible), but he wanted a lightweight boat and the 7mm ply available here is a different type of wood and much heavier.
I'll post more pictures soon, hopefully of the upright Spur II. Also If its a nice day tomorrow we may actually launch the 15' "Harbinger" Catboat "Dolly-T" that my father finished building a few months ago.I'll post pics of her too!
Hugo Tyson, launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
Peter Lenihan <peterlenihan@...> wrote:
A note to future builders of Spur IIs. Don't leave any of the station molds out when building, especially if using very light/thin plywood. My father,while being quite an experienced boat builder left a few out, thinking things would be OK, but had to improvise with props to attain the right, fair shape. He used 6mm -1/4" Okume(I think it was Okume, maybe Gabon) ply and found this quite flexible. 7mm ply might have been better(Not quite so flexible), but he wanted a lightweight boat and the 7mm ply available here is a different type of wood and much heavier.
I'll post more pictures soon, hopefully of the upright Spur II. Also If its a nice day tomorrow we may actually launch the 15' "Harbinger" Catboat "Dolly-T" that my father finished building a few months ago.I'll post pics of her too!
Hugo Tyson, launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
Peter Lenihan <peterlenihan@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "hhetyson" <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just posted some more pictures of a Bolger designed "Spur II"
> clinker-plywood rowing boat that my father has been building.
Thanks for the lovely pictures Hugo! Your Dad is doing a a bang up
job of it and it is awefully nice to see a boat going
together,especially at this time of the year :-)
Not to be too picky or critical,but might you ask your Dad if his
stem/cutwater doesn't have a wee bit of a curve to
it....leaning/curving to the port side...at least it looks that way
to me in the last pictures of the most recent batch.If so,how does
he propose correcting it?
Again,thanks for the pictures!
Peter Lenihan
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "hhetyson" <hhetyson@y...> wrote:
job of it and it is awefully nice to see a boat going
together,especially at this time of the year :-)
Not to be too picky or critical,but might you ask your Dad if his
stem/cutwater doesn't have a wee bit of a curve to
it....leaning/curving to the port side...at least it looks that way
to me in the last pictures of the most recent batch.If so,how does
he propose correcting it?
Again,thanks for the pictures!
Peter Lenihan
>Thanks for the lovely pictures Hugo! Your Dad is doing a a bang up
> Hi,
>
> I've just posted some more pictures of a Bolger designed "Spur II"
> clinker-plywood rowing boat that my father has been building.
job of it and it is awefully nice to see a boat going
together,especially at this time of the year :-)
Not to be too picky or critical,but might you ask your Dad if his
stem/cutwater doesn't have a wee bit of a curve to
it....leaning/curving to the port side...at least it looks that way
to me in the last pictures of the most recent batch.If so,how does
he propose correcting it?
Again,thanks for the pictures!
Peter Lenihan
On Monday 18 October 2004 07:51 am, Bruce Hallman wrote:
your way of building looked like more fun than Hugo's.
I don't think the water cares much what the boat looks like
or even if it is "straight". Water is rarely flat after all.
But to each his own. We cannot all be Don Elliot, thank god.
boblq
> > I've just posted some more pictures of a Bolger designed "Spur II"I gotta say that to me, in my rough and ready way, that
> > clinker-plywood rowing boat that my father has been building.
> > Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
>
> Sure is interesting to see how a real boatbuilder builds a Spur II!
> I wish I had seen those photos before my Spur II experiment.
> I had no clue, or point of reference, when I built mine,
> which came out much 'rougher'.
>
> Still, she floated and rowed sweetly.
>
> What a good idea, use sturdy frames on a stout strongback!
>
> For those who haven't seen my Spur II experiment, they can look here.
>
>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/
your way of building looked like more fun than Hugo's.
I don't think the water cares much what the boat looks like
or even if it is "straight". Water is rarely flat after all.
But to each his own. We cannot all be Don Elliot, thank god.
boblq
> Some long days thereI recall that it took three weekends of long hour days,
> Howard
plus some spare time on weekday evenings after work.
All in all, it went much faster than I expected.
Lots of time was saved by not fretting about accuracy or
quality of finish!
Some long days there, Bruce. I think the last plank is the shutter.
Howard
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> For those who haven't seen my Spur II experiment, they can look
here.
>
>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/
> BruceYes, it continues to hold. Though, I am not such an enthusiast
>
> Has the gorilla glue continued to hold? Would you use it again.
>
> HJ
as I was two years ago. I would still use polyurathane glue, when
working outside in the rain, as I did for much of the construction
of my Spur II. But otherwise, epoxy is just *so* great, and is about
the same price as polyurathane glue. I now prefer epoxy when the
wood you are working with is dry.
Bruce
Has the gorilla glue continued to hold? Would you use it again.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
Has the gorilla glue continued to hold? Would you use it again.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
>>I've just posted some more pictures of a Bolger designed "Spur II"
>>clinker-plywood rowing boat that my father has been building.
>>Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
>>
>>
>
>Sure is interesting to see how a real boatbuilder builds a Spur II!
>I wish I had seen those photos before my Spur II experiment.
>I had no clue, or point of reference, when I built mine,
>which came out much 'rougher'.
>
>Still, she floated and rowed sweetly.
>
>What a good idea, use sturdy frames on a stout strongback!
>
>For those who haven't seen my Spur II experiment, they can look here.
>
>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/
>
>
>
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> I've just posted some more pictures of a Bolger designed "Spur II"Sure is interesting to see how a real boatbuilder builds a Spur II!
> clinker-plywood rowing boat that my father has been building.
> Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
I wish I had seen those photos before my Spur II experiment.
I had no clue, or point of reference, when I built mine,
which came out much 'rougher'.
Still, she floated and rowed sweetly.
What a good idea, use sturdy frames on a stout strongback!
For those who haven't seen my Spur II experiment, they can look here.
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/
Hi,
I've just posted some more pictures of a Bolger designed "Spur II"
clinker-plywood rowing boat that my father has been building. All
the planking is done, outer stem, keel and skeg have beed fitted and
glued in place Also the lower sheer strake rub rails have been
fitted and glued in place. The bottom 4 planks on each side of the
keel have been sheathed with a layer of fairly thin fibreglass to
give the 6mm plywood some protection against the pebbles etc. on the
beaches and river banks around here.All the hull (outside) has been
epoxy saturated and epoxy filler has been spread and partially
faired off on the fibreglass. Apparently, due to the plank laps and
curves of the hull it was difficult to get an absolutely perfect
finish with the fibreglass, therefore some grinding and filling was
needed! My father was just cutting out the seat frame/bulkheads this
morning. A bit more work will be needed on the outside of the hull
before she's turned upright to do all the interior work, but dad's
hoping by this coming weekend we'll be able to flip her over and
get a good look at what she really looks like!
The photos are posted in the
Files section of Bolger4photos group
in the Folder labelled "Tyson's Merlin, Sabre & SpurII pics."
The most recent photos start at the file labelled "Spur II- more
pictures 001.jpg" to "Spur II- more pictures 009x.jpg "
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/files/
Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
I've just posted some more pictures of a Bolger designed "Spur II"
clinker-plywood rowing boat that my father has been building. All
the planking is done, outer stem, keel and skeg have beed fitted and
glued in place Also the lower sheer strake rub rails have been
fitted and glued in place. The bottom 4 planks on each side of the
keel have been sheathed with a layer of fairly thin fibreglass to
give the 6mm plywood some protection against the pebbles etc. on the
beaches and river banks around here.All the hull (outside) has been
epoxy saturated and epoxy filler has been spread and partially
faired off on the fibreglass. Apparently, due to the plank laps and
curves of the hull it was difficult to get an absolutely perfect
finish with the fibreglass, therefore some grinding and filling was
needed! My father was just cutting out the seat frame/bulkheads this
morning. A bit more work will be needed on the outside of the hull
before she's turned upright to do all the interior work, but dad's
hoping by this coming weekend we'll be able to flip her over and
get a good look at what she really looks like!
The photos are posted in the
Files section of Bolger4photos group
in the Folder labelled "Tyson's Merlin, Sabre & SpurII pics."
The most recent photos start at the file labelled "Spur II- more
pictures 001.jpg" to "Spur II- more pictures 009x.jpg "
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/files/
Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.