Re: Small Engine stuffing box?
In SE Asia they are usually known as long tail boats. You will find
several pictures by searching Google Images on ("long tail" boat),
without the brackets.
Howard
several pictures by searching Google Images on ("long tail" boat),
without the brackets.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> Sounds like a Go Devil. You can check out
>
>http://www.go-devil.com/
>
> The name is actually generic, you can google "go devil" and find
lots of
> references. They are common world wide. If I am not mistaken one of
the
> James Bond movies had a V8 one in Thailand. It is something to see
> somebody balancing a V-8 on a stick.
Sounds like a Go Devil. You can check out
http://www.go-devil.com/
The name is actually generic, you can google "go devil" and find lots of
references. They are common world wide. If I am not mistaken one of the
James Bond movies had a V8 one in Thailand. It is something to see
somebody balancing a V-8 on a stick.
HJ
J. R. Sloan wrote:
http://www.go-devil.com/
The name is actually generic, you can google "go devil" and find lots of
references. They are common world wide. If I am not mistaken one of the
James Bond movies had a V8 one in Thailand. It is something to see
somebody balancing a V-8 on a stick.
HJ
J. R. Sloan wrote:
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John" <opus2sail@y...> wrote:
>
>
>>Small Engine stuffing box?
>>
>>Hey Guys,
>>Years ago I remember someone had a kit or what amounted to a kit
>>
>>
>to use a regular side shaft Briggs & Stratton gas engine to power a
> small skiff or jon boat. So... has anyone seen such an animal
> lately? Got any ideas? Have you dreamed any schemes like this?
>Remember any old popular mechanix that had one of these babies?
>
>
>>Thanx, Johann
>>
>>
>
>JR: there was an article in Woodenboat Magazine in the last year or
>so, describing such a device used in a Louisiana (or other Gulf
>State) pirogue-or-jonboat. Basically, this was a longish shaft
>mounted on a 1"x8"x(maybe)6', so that it was parallel to the shaft
>of a small B&S one-lunger, also mounted to the board. It propelled
>the boat by turning the prop on the shaft using a little belt and a
>centrifugal clutch, I believe, though that fancy a clutch wouldn't
>be essential (it could be direct drive or an idler pulley to tighten
>a loose belt).
>The unique feature was that the boat was sort of "half-a-boat", with
>the front half partitioned off from the back,so the transom was
>actually midships and the sides of the boat extended back an
>additional 4' or so to where you would expect a transom to appear.
>This board with motor simply mounted on a pivot and hung out the
>back where the transom would normally be.
>
>This thing worked by starting the motor, engaging the shaft, then
>lifting the motor so that the shaft (and attached prop) lowered into
>the water. Forward motion flushed out the aft section enough to
>keep her afloat while moving. If I were doing it, I would put
>flotation chambers on both sides of the mounts for the board in the
>rear section, but the model didn't have them. A very simple smooth-
>water solution to the issue you bring up.
>
>Incidentally, there used to be a whole class of boats in the upper
>midwest that used a similar mode of motor-powered propulsion. In
>these, the motor was stationary, and the shaft was lifted up into
>the hull somehow. I never saw one, but understand there might be a
>restorer's club around somewhere.
>
>Using Bolger techniques, a wooden box with a long moveable shaft
>inside could be installed to the interior or aft of a lot of boats.
>Maybe like those SE Asia boats one could see (remember that old
>James Bond Movie?) where they balanced a long shaft mounted directly
>to an auto engine on the broad-beam transoms of water taxiis.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>JR Sloan
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The boat was a Chalon. See WB 171.
As for the stationary engine, shaft moving craft, you might want to
check out Dispro (Disappearing Propellor)boats. The company changed
hands and locations several times. Most built in Southern Ontario and
Tonawanda NY. Sold and resold all used over the world including South
America and Africa. Since these are a popular, restorable "classic"
there are any number of them restored to date and there are sources
for old stock and newly manufactured parts. IIRC it's possible to get
most of the parts for the drive assembly. Of course, being cheap, I'd
do some "googling" and work out how to build my own.
Bryant
As for the stationary engine, shaft moving craft, you might want to
check out Dispro (Disappearing Propellor)boats. The company changed
hands and locations several times. Most built in Southern Ontario and
Tonawanda NY. Sold and resold all used over the world including South
America and Africa. Since these are a popular, restorable "classic"
there are any number of them restored to date and there are sources
for old stock and newly manufactured parts. IIRC it's possible to get
most of the parts for the drive assembly. Of course, being cheap, I'd
do some "googling" and work out how to build my own.
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "J. R. Sloan" <jr_sloan@m...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John" <opus2sail@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Small Engine stuffing box?
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > Years ago I remember someone had a kit or what amounted to a kit
> to use a regular side shaft Briggs & Stratton gas engine to power a
> small skiff or jon boat. So... has anyone seen such an animal
> lately? Got any ideas? Have you dreamed any schemes like this?
> Remember any old popular mechanix that had one of these babies?
> > Thanx, Johann
>
> JR: there was an article in Woodenboat Magazine in the last year or
> so, describing such a device used in a Louisiana (or other Gulf
> State) pirogue-or-jonboat. Basically, this was a longish shaft
> mounted on a 1"x8"x(maybe)6', so that it was parallel to the shaft
> of a small B&S one-lunger, also mounted to the board. It propelled
> the boat by turning the prop on the shaft using a little belt and a
> centrifugal clutch, I believe, though that fancy a clutch wouldn't
> be essential (it could be direct drive or an idler pulley to
tighten
> a loose belt).
> The unique feature was that the boat was sort of "half-a-boat",
with
> the front half partitioned off from the back,so the transom was
> actually midships and the sides of the boat extended back an
> additional 4' or so to where you would expect a transom to appear.
> This board with motor simply mounted on a pivot and hung out the
> back where the transom would normally be.
>
> This thing worked by starting the motor, engaging the shaft, then
> lifting the motor so that the shaft (and attached prop) lowered
into
> the water. Forward motion flushed out the aft section enough to
> keep her afloat while moving. If I were doing it, I would put
> flotation chambers on both sides of the mounts for the board in the
> rear section, but the model didn't have them. A very simple smooth-
> water solution to the issue you bring up.
>
> Incidentally, there used to be a whole class of boats in the upper
> midwest that used a similar mode of motor-powered propulsion. In
> these, the motor was stationary, and the shaft was lifted up into
> the hull somehow. I never saw one, but understand there might be a
> restorer's club around somewhere.
>
> Using Bolger techniques, a wooden box with a long moveable shaft
> inside could be installed to the interior or aft of a lot of
boats.
> Maybe like those SE Asia boats one could see (remember that old
> James Bond Movie?) where they balanced a long shaft mounted
directly
> to an auto engine on the broad-beam transoms of water taxiis.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> JR Sloan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John" <opus2sail@y...> wrote:
small skiff or jon boat. So... has anyone seen such an animal
lately? Got any ideas? Have you dreamed any schemes like this?
Remember any old popular mechanix that had one of these babies?
so, describing such a device used in a Louisiana (or other Gulf
State) pirogue-or-jonboat. Basically, this was a longish shaft
mounted on a 1"x8"x(maybe)6', so that it was parallel to the shaft
of a small B&S one-lunger, also mounted to the board. It propelled
the boat by turning the prop on the shaft using a little belt and a
centrifugal clutch, I believe, though that fancy a clutch wouldn't
be essential (it could be direct drive or an idler pulley to tighten
a loose belt).
The unique feature was that the boat was sort of "half-a-boat", with
the front half partitioned off from the back,so the transom was
actually midships and the sides of the boat extended back an
additional 4' or so to where you would expect a transom to appear.
This board with motor simply mounted on a pivot and hung out the
back where the transom would normally be.
This thing worked by starting the motor, engaging the shaft, then
lifting the motor so that the shaft (and attached prop) lowered into
the water. Forward motion flushed out the aft section enough to
keep her afloat while moving. If I were doing it, I would put
flotation chambers on both sides of the mounts for the board in the
rear section, but the model didn't have them. A very simple smooth-
water solution to the issue you bring up.
Incidentally, there used to be a whole class of boats in the upper
midwest that used a similar mode of motor-powered propulsion. In
these, the motor was stationary, and the shaft was lifted up into
the hull somehow. I never saw one, but understand there might be a
restorer's club around somewhere.
Using Bolger techniques, a wooden box with a long moveable shaft
inside could be installed to the interior or aft of a lot of boats.
Maybe like those SE Asia boats one could see (remember that old
James Bond Movie?) where they balanced a long shaft mounted directly
to an auto engine on the broad-beam transoms of water taxiis.
Best Regards,
JR Sloan
>to use a regular side shaft Briggs & Stratton gas engine to power a
> Small Engine stuffing box?
>
> Hey Guys,
> Years ago I remember someone had a kit or what amounted to a kit
small skiff or jon boat. So... has anyone seen such an animal
lately? Got any ideas? Have you dreamed any schemes like this?
Remember any old popular mechanix that had one of these babies?
> Thanx, JohannJR: there was an article in Woodenboat Magazine in the last year or
so, describing such a device used in a Louisiana (or other Gulf
State) pirogue-or-jonboat. Basically, this was a longish shaft
mounted on a 1"x8"x(maybe)6', so that it was parallel to the shaft
of a small B&S one-lunger, also mounted to the board. It propelled
the boat by turning the prop on the shaft using a little belt and a
centrifugal clutch, I believe, though that fancy a clutch wouldn't
be essential (it could be direct drive or an idler pulley to tighten
a loose belt).
The unique feature was that the boat was sort of "half-a-boat", with
the front half partitioned off from the back,so the transom was
actually midships and the sides of the boat extended back an
additional 4' or so to where you would expect a transom to appear.
This board with motor simply mounted on a pivot and hung out the
back where the transom would normally be.
This thing worked by starting the motor, engaging the shaft, then
lifting the motor so that the shaft (and attached prop) lowered into
the water. Forward motion flushed out the aft section enough to
keep her afloat while moving. If I were doing it, I would put
flotation chambers on both sides of the mounts for the board in the
rear section, but the model didn't have them. A very simple smooth-
water solution to the issue you bring up.
Incidentally, there used to be a whole class of boats in the upper
midwest that used a similar mode of motor-powered propulsion. In
these, the motor was stationary, and the shaft was lifted up into
the hull somehow. I never saw one, but understand there might be a
restorer's club around somewhere.
Using Bolger techniques, a wooden box with a long moveable shaft
inside could be installed to the interior or aft of a lot of boats.
Maybe like those SE Asia boats one could see (remember that old
James Bond Movie?) where they balanced a long shaft mounted directly
to an auto engine on the broad-beam transoms of water taxiis.
Best Regards,
JR Sloan
Small transmission from a riding lawnmower or simular?
HJ
John wrote:
HJ
John wrote:
>Small Engine stuffing box?
>
>Hey Guys,
>
> Years ago I remember someone had a kit or what amounted to a kit to
>use a regular side shaft Briggs & Stratton gas engine to power a
>small skiff or jon boat. So... has anyone seen such an animal
>lately? I can find parts to do a 4-cylinder engine but really nothing
>less than that and that's with a transmission and the whole nine
>yards.
>
>Got any ideas? Do you know of any parts warehouses for lighter
>engines? Have you dreamed any schemes like this? Remember any old
>popular mechanix that had one of these babies?
>Thanx, Johann
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Bolger rules!!!
>- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
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Hi Johann,
Athttp://www.glenwoodmarine.net/Catalog.htm
... you will see a catalogue of marine hardware. The company can
supply stuffing boxes for shafts down to 1" dia.
You might get answers to your various questions at:
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi
This is an old marine engines discussion board.
Best of luck,
Howard
Athttp://www.glenwoodmarine.net/Catalog.htm
... you will see a catalogue of marine hardware. The company can
supply stuffing boxes for shafts down to 1" dia.
You might get answers to your various questions at:
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi
This is an old marine engines discussion board.
Best of luck,
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John" <opus2sail@y...> wrote:
>
> Small Engine stuffing box?
Small Engine stuffing box?
Hey Guys,
Years ago I remember someone had a kit or what amounted to a kit to
use a regular side shaft Briggs & Stratton gas engine to power a
small skiff or jon boat. So... has anyone seen such an animal
lately? I can find parts to do a 4-cylinder engine but really nothing
less than that and that's with a transmission and the whole nine
yards.
Got any ideas? Do you know of any parts warehouses for lighter
engines? Have you dreamed any schemes like this? Remember any old
popular mechanix that had one of these babies?
Thanx, Johann
Hey Guys,
Years ago I remember someone had a kit or what amounted to a kit to
use a regular side shaft Briggs & Stratton gas engine to power a
small skiff or jon boat. So... has anyone seen such an animal
lately? I can find parts to do a 4-cylinder engine but really nothing
less than that and that's with a transmission and the whole nine
yards.
Got any ideas? Do you know of any parts warehouses for lighter
engines? Have you dreamed any schemes like this? Remember any old
popular mechanix that had one of these babies?
Thanx, Johann