Re: Bell's Puffer, Puffer, All Weather House Boat
Sail or knot, if I were to build a SB, she'd be a purpose built motor
sailor. Sailing only when going downwind or reaching. The motor would
be for all windward work.
Of course I'd add a deck level and below deck conning station with
remote controls for the motor.
That is, after all, how the vast majority of cruising yachts work
anyways, no?
Bruce Hector
And of course a genset for the central a/c, fridge, freezer, Oporto
cooling cellar (might even want to invite that pesky rascal Lenihan
onboard sometimes), TV, DVD, microwave, hot tub, satelite computer
internet system, so I could constantly sent Superbrick notices to the
group, washer, dryer, dishwasher, massaging couch, etc.
sailor. Sailing only when going downwind or reaching. The motor would
be for all windward work.
Of course I'd add a deck level and below deck conning station with
remote controls for the motor.
That is, after all, how the vast majority of cruising yachts work
anyways, no?
Bruce Hector
And of course a genset for the central a/c, fridge, freezer, Oporto
cooling cellar (might even want to invite that pesky rascal Lenihan
onboard sometimes), TV, DVD, microwave, hot tub, satelite computer
internet system, so I could constantly sent Superbrick notices to the
group, washer, dryer, dishwasher, massaging couch, etc.
I really liked the Puffer 40. I think the plan was for (2) T
50's so it had some power but not a passage maker. I tried to get a
group to make up the $2000 that PCB wanted at the time to complete the
design but didn't. I don't know if it was ever completed. Kind of a one
bedroom townhouse as opposed to the yachty looking alternative. The
discussion being" how long you could get away with anchoring in front
of fancy homes before the law arrives to send you on your way. Clyde
donschultz8275 wrote:
50's so it had some power but not a passage maker. I tried to get a
group to make up the $2000 that PCB wanted at the time to complete the
design but didn't. I don't know if it was ever completed. Kind of a one
bedroom townhouse as opposed to the yachty looking alternative. The
discussion being" how long you could get away with anchoring in front
of fancy homes before the law arrives to send you on your way. Clyde
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> Are all 3 different boats.
>
> Puffer was sketched up as an alternative to Illinois. Both were
> presented in MAIB, and are underpowered mobile house boats. Both use
> 50 hp outboard motors to help them get around in coastal/riverine
> environments.
>
> Illinois is a 63' sharpie. IMO Puffer is a 40' Super Brick w' a pilot
> house, and cutwater.
>
> Bells Puffer is a box keel passagemaker. Above the waterline, the
> Bell's Puffer and Puffer are similar in appearance.
>
> The All Weather House Boat, I know little about, but it looks like an
> older design. Perhaps a wood version of Shady Lady.
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I think that Bell's Puffer is more nearly a version of
Shady Lady--both large box keel displacement cruisers.
All Weather Houseboat, as I recall, is of
hollow-garboard traditional construction. She looks
pretty complicated.
Has anyone ever approached PB&F and Bob Hicks about
putting out the Bolger on Design articles from MAIB,
in book form? It would really be neat to have
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Shady Lady--both large box keel displacement cruisers.
All Weather Houseboat, as I recall, is of
hollow-garboard traditional construction. She looks
pretty complicated.
Has anyone ever approached PB&F and Bob Hicks about
putting out the Bolger on Design articles from MAIB,
in book form? It would really be neat to have
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Are all 3 different boats.
Puffer was sketched up as an alternative to Illinois. Both were
presented in MAIB, and are underpowered mobile house boats. Both use
50 hp outboard motors to help them get around in coastal/riverine
environments.
Illinois is a 63' sharpie. IMO Puffer is a 40' Super Brick w' a pilot
house, and cutwater.
Bells Puffer is a box keel passagemaker. Above the waterline, the
Bell's Puffer and Puffer are similar in appearance.
The All Weather House Boat, I know little about, but it looks like an
older design. Perhaps a wood version of Shady Lady.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/>
Puffer was sketched up as an alternative to Illinois. Both were
presented in MAIB, and are underpowered mobile house boats. Both use
50 hp outboard motors to help them get around in coastal/riverine
environments.
Illinois is a 63' sharpie. IMO Puffer is a 40' Super Brick w' a pilot
house, and cutwater.
Bells Puffer is a box keel passagemaker. Above the waterline, the
Bell's Puffer and Puffer are similar in appearance.
The All Weather House Boat, I know little about, but it looks like an
older design. Perhaps a wood version of Shady Lady.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/>
> What is this about a "stretched" sitka explorer?Hi Ken,
> ken
In a letter I recieved from Suzanne about 8 months ago she mentione
dthat they were curently working on a design for a stretched "Sitka
Explorer". I recieved a note recently that progress has been made on
that design but not to expect any thing until later this year.
Phil
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ken
>What is this about a "stretched" sitka explorer?
> I certainly don't see how the origami method eliminates
> > half the welding. It eliminates about 1/3 of the welding of the chine.
> >
> snip
>
> I really like Mr. Bolgers other designs and hope that he completes the
> Stretched Sitka Explorer is done some time soon.
> Regards
> Phil
ken
Bruce
Here you go
HJ
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>please and thank you!
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>On Apr 9, 2005 9:21 PM, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
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>>Fritz scanned the puffer graphics for me, quite a bit better quality
>>than the posted one, will email to anybody who wants to contact me directly.
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I certainly don't see how the origami method eliminates
Well if you look at it, with the Bells Puffer design there are 16 full
hull length welds, quite a number of strucural bulk heads. With the
typical Brent Swain style Origami design, there are 5 full hull length
welds and 2ea. 2/3rds welds. Some stringers and no real lateral bulkeads.
I really like Mr. Bolgers other designs and hope that he completes the
Stretched Sitka Explorer is done some time soon.
Regards
Phil
> half the welding. It eliminates about 1/3 of the welding of the chine.Peter
>
Well if you look at it, with the Bells Puffer design there are 16 full
hull length welds, quite a number of strucural bulk heads. With the
typical Brent Swain style Origami design, there are 5 full hull length
welds and 2ea. 2/3rds welds. Some stringers and no real lateral bulkeads.
I really like Mr. Bolgers other designs and hope that he completes the
Stretched Sitka Explorer is done some time soon.
Regards
Phil
bruce@...
please and thank you!
please and thank you!
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>
> Fritz scanned the puffer graphics for me, quite a bit better quality
> than the posted one, will email to anybody who wants to contact me directly.
>
> HJ
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Fritz scanned the puffer graphics for me, quite a bit better quality
than the posted one, will email to anybody who wants to contact me directly.
HJ
than the posted one, will email to anybody who wants to contact me directly.
HJ
> An origami design would be just as sea worthy but withBolger has a reputation for being very canny about the use of
> half the welding, again just my opinion.
materials. Of course, he might try to minimize labor on one boat, and
material cost on another, because the circumstances of the build are
different. I certainly don't see how the origami method eliminates
half the welding. It eliminates about 1/3 of the welding of the chine.
Peter
Ahhh, From That point of view I truly do understand...
My profound apologies.
Regards
Phil
My profound apologies.
Regards
Phil
> How dare you speak so boldly about someones mistress! :-D
>
> Actually, by the looks of that design, it clearly was a custom job for
> a fellow who; a)had a Gardner diesel,b)had an afinity for steel hull,c)
> had a Gardner diesel,d)appreciated Bolgers wonderful argonomic sense
> of interior spaces,e)had a Gardner diesel,and f)is a fan of Bolger and
> his out-side-the-box thinking. In a crazy sort of way,pretty much the
> same way we go about finding ourselves,one day,married to the most un-
> expected speciman!
> So thinks I.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan
I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my issues are with the design of the
hull and the massive freeboard. An origami design would be just as sea worthy but with
half the welding, again just my opinion. I have zero experiance building large boats, but
lots of welding and metal working experiance. Just from instinct I think this boat would be
very lively in a seaway.
regards
Phil
hull and the massive freeboard. An origami design would be just as sea worthy but with
half the welding, again just my opinion. I have zero experiance building large boats, but
lots of welding and metal working experiance. Just from instinct I think this boat would be
very lively in a seaway.
regards
Phil
I have scanned and uploaded the complete Bell's Puffer article,http://groups.yahoo.com/
group/bolger4/files/BellsPuffer/ I hope you enjoy it. I found the article fascinating as it
discusses Mr. Bolgers' relationship with one of my hero's Cmd Robert Beebe.
Enjoy
Phil
group/bolger4/files/BellsPuffer/ I hope you enjoy it. I found the article fascinating as it
discusses Mr. Bolgers' relationship with one of my hero's Cmd Robert Beebe.
Enjoy
Phil
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Actually, by the looks of that design, it clearly was a custom job for
a fellow who; a)had a Gardner diesel,b)had an afinity for steel hull,c)
had a Gardner diesel,d)appreciated Bolgers wonderful argonomic sense
of interior spaces,e)had a Gardner diesel,and f)is a fan of Bolger and
his out-side-the-box thinking. In a crazy sort of way,pretty much the
same way we go about finding ourselves,one day,married to the most un-
expected speciman!
So thinks I.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
>being
> I don't have the issue, but I do have the article. I will scan it and
> email it too you. But in my opinion it is about the worst boat design
> I have ever seen, complicated hull form, heavy, deep draft, designed
> around a Gardner engine that is no longer in production (gardner
> defunct) and butt ugly. If you want a heavy deep draft, serious oceanHow dare you speak so boldly about someones mistress! :-D
> cruiser go for a George Beuhler designed Duck.
> JMHO
> Phil
Actually, by the looks of that design, it clearly was a custom job for
a fellow who; a)had a Gardner diesel,b)had an afinity for steel hull,c)
had a Gardner diesel,d)appreciated Bolgers wonderful argonomic sense
of interior spaces,e)had a Gardner diesel,and f)is a fan of Bolger and
his out-side-the-box thinking. In a crazy sort of way,pretty much the
same way we go about finding ourselves,one day,married to the most un-
expected speciman!
So thinks I.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
I have it, will try and get it scanned if somebody doesn't beat me to it.
HJ
Bruce Hector wrote:
HJ
Bruce Hector wrote:
>This is the only hit I got off Yahoo with +"Bell's Puffer" and +Bolger.
>
>It was in MAIB, Issue 17, volume 11, page 26
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> Ocean Passagemakers
> #634 Bell's Puffer 45' Ocean Pasagemaker 17 11 26
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>Anyone got that issue?
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>Bruce Hector
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> designs ...
...is a database, not comprehensive, but the best in existance.
Maintained collectively, which means everybody is
encouraged [and needed] to maintain and update it.
--- "Phil S." <newbarndesign@y...> wrote:
know". Looks like I knew it wrong.... Good to have people here who know
a "little" more than me <g>.
Would be easy, if there would be a comprehensive database about the
designs ...
Cheers,
Stefan
>Thank you! I stand corrected. I said always "AFAIK", "as far as I
> That is "Puffer", a completely different design than
> the "Bells Puffer".
> Phil
know". Looks like I knew it wrong.... Good to have people here who know
a "little" more than me <g>.
Would be easy, if there would be a comprehensive database about the
designs ...
Cheers,
Stefan
Yes, I know some may think Bell's Puffer ugly, but I think she's beautifully ugly and would be an impressive boat. In the round I suspect she'd look quite good if built well and be an unusual and interesting boat with lots of potential!
As to the Gardener engine, they last for years and years as they're such low revving engines and massively and well built. The engine is nothing to worry about, I'm sure a similar size/power modern (current production) diesel could be fitted to the design. Maybe a little more ballast up forward may be needed to offset the lighter weight of a modern diesel?
Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
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As to the Gardener engine, they last for years and years as they're such low revving engines and massively and well built. The engine is nothing to worry about, I'm sure a similar size/power modern (current production) diesel could be fitted to the design. Maybe a little more ballast up forward may be needed to offset the lighter weight of a modern diesel?
Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
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I've uploaded too:
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filename is BellsPuffer_634_a.jpg
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4/files/
filename is BellsPuffer_634_a.jpg
On Apr 8, 2005 1:13 PM, Stefan Probst <stefan.probst@opticom.v-nam.net> wrote:
>
>
> --- Bill Turnbull <BillTurnbull@g...> wrote:
> > Photo is posted in bolger2 group photos section.
>
> Dear Bill,
>
> could you upload it also into the files section so that we can see
> it "full size"? AFAIK, photos in the photos section are reduced in
> size for everybody than the one who posted it and the group owner.
>
> IIRC the "Bell's Puffer" is also called "Mobile Houseboat Concept". I
> have scans, but don't know where I downloaded them from, so I
> hesitate a bit to upload them.
>
> On two pages there is a side view, floor layout for deck and cabins,
> and a cross section (to see internal heights).
>
> If you don't find them on the Net, I can mail them to you directly.
>
> Best Regards,
> Stefan
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>--but Buehler himself wouldSo would I but they are out of business...
> love the Gardner engine, I bet. Sam>
Not going to put something in a boat that I can't get parts for...
Phil
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"If you want a heavy deep draft, serious ocean cruiser go for a George
Beuhler designed Duck."
Or PB's Sitka Explorer!
Bruce Hector
Thanks, Phil, I'll really enjoy looking at it. I like
Bolger's box-keel boats, although as you say Bell's
Puffer is a little overpowering. I also like the
looks of the Diesel Duck--but Buehler himself would
love the Gardner engine, I bet. Sam
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Bolger's box-keel boats, although as you say Bell's
Puffer is a little overpowering. I also like the
looks of the Diesel Duck--but Buehler himself would
love the Gardner engine, I bet. Sam
--- "Phil S." <newbarndesign@...> wrote:
>__________________________________
> I Do not have a scanner available at this second but
> here are the
> specs for Bell's Puffer the ocean going monstrosity,
> Length - 45.9'
> Breadth - 15.6'
> Draft - 3.9'
> Displacement - 51,000 pounds
> Fuel - 985 usGal
>
> It is a box keel forward engine design, similar
> layout to the house
> boat aft wheel house type of design. The Gardner
> engine that is
> deigned to go in this boat weighs something like
> 2400 pounds. Like I
> said in an earlier post, this is (in my opinion) a
> very poor design.
> The Bueler Ducks are far nicer looking and easier to
> build.
>
> At some point this weekend I will try and get this
> article scanned and
> posted.
> Phil
>
>
>
>
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I Do not have a scanner available at this second but here are the
specs for Bell's Puffer the ocean going monstrosity,
Length - 45.9'
Breadth - 15.6'
Draft - 3.9'
Displacement - 51,000 pounds
Fuel - 985 usGal
It is a box keel forward engine design, similar layout to the house
boat aft wheel house type of design. The Gardner engine that is
deigned to go in this boat weighs something like 2400 pounds. Like I
said in an earlier post, this is (in my opinion) a very poor design.
The Bueler Ducks are far nicer looking and easier to build.
At some point this weekend I will try and get this article scanned and
posted.
Phil
specs for Bell's Puffer the ocean going monstrosity,
Length - 45.9'
Breadth - 15.6'
Draft - 3.9'
Displacement - 51,000 pounds
Fuel - 985 usGal
It is a box keel forward engine design, similar layout to the house
boat aft wheel house type of design. The Gardner engine that is
deigned to go in this boat weighs something like 2400 pounds. Like I
said in an earlier post, this is (in my opinion) a very poor design.
The Bueler Ducks are far nicer looking and easier to build.
At some point this weekend I will try and get this article scanned and
posted.
Phil
You have me confused now, guys. Bell's Puffer is a
box keel passagemaker. Puffer aka mobile houseboat
concept is a forty foot liveaboard, and as far as I
can tell unrelated to Bell's Puffer. All Weather
Houseboat is a cruising boat with a built down hull
for traditional construction. At least, that is what
I get from the files/photos in Bolger 2. Does anyone
have the actual Bell's Puffer MIAB artical available?
I'd love to see it. Sam
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concept is a forty foot liveaboard, and as far as I
can tell unrelated to Bell's Puffer. All Weather
Houseboat is a cruising boat with a built down hull
for traditional construction. At least, that is what
I get from the files/photos in Bolger 2. Does anyone
have the actual Bell's Puffer MIAB artical available?
I'd love to see it. Sam
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> Puffer'?
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> Don't think so.
> "Mobile Houseboat Concept" (which is Bell's Puffer
> AFAIK) is given as
> as 40'x14'x2' whereas "All Weather Houseboat" is
> given as 30'x14'.
> There is definitely more space in the Houseboat
> Concept.
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That is "Puffer", a completely different design than the "Bells Puffer".
Phil
Phil
I don't have the issue, but I do have the article. I will scan it and
email it too you. But in my opinion it is about the worst boat design
I have ever seen, complicated hull form, heavy, deep draft, designed
around a Gardner engine that is no longer in production (gardner being
defunct) and butt ugly. If you want a heavy deep draft, serious ocean
cruiser go for a George Beuhler designed Duck.
JMHO
Phil
email it too you. But in my opinion it is about the worst boat design
I have ever seen, complicated hull form, heavy, deep draft, designed
around a Gardner engine that is no longer in production (gardner being
defunct) and butt ugly. If you want a heavy deep draft, serious ocean
cruiser go for a George Beuhler designed Duck.
JMHO
Phil
--- Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
"Mobile Houseboat Concept" (which is Bell's Puffer AFAIK) is given as
as 40'x14'x2' whereas "All Weather Houseboat" is given as 30'x14'.
There is definitely more space in the Houseboat Concept.
Stefan
>Don't think so.
> Is 'All Weather Houseboat' the same as 'Bell's Puffer'?
"Mobile Houseboat Concept" (which is Bell's Puffer AFAIK) is given as
as 40'x14'x2' whereas "All Weather Houseboat" is given as 30'x14'.
There is definitely more space in the Houseboat Concept.
Stefan
> Found it: files section of Bolger2, in folder "BIG BOLGER BOATS".Thanks, found it too. Is 'All Weather Houseboat' the same as 'Bell's Puffer'?
--- "Stefan Probst" <stefan.probst@o...> wrote:
Cheers,
Stefan
> I have scans, but don't know where I downloaded them fromFound it: files section of Bolger2, in folder "BIG BOLGER BOATS".
Cheers,
Stefan
--- Bill Turnbull <BillTurnbull@g...> wrote:
could you upload it also into the files section so that we can see
it "full size"? AFAIK, photos in the photos section are reduced in
size for everybody than the one who posted it and the group owner.
IIRC the "Bell's Puffer" is also called "Mobile Houseboat Concept". I
have scans, but don't know where I downloaded them from, so I
hesitate a bit to upload them.
On two pages there is a side view, floor layout for deck and cabins,
and a cross section (to see internal heights).
If you don't find them on the Net, I can mail them to you directly.
Best Regards,
Stefan
> Photo is posted in bolger2 group photos section.Dear Bill,
could you upload it also into the files section so that we can see
it "full size"? AFAIK, photos in the photos section are reduced in
size for everybody than the one who posted it and the group owner.
IIRC the "Bell's Puffer" is also called "Mobile Houseboat Concept". I
have scans, but don't know where I downloaded them from, so I
hesitate a bit to upload them.
On two pages there is a side view, floor layout for deck and cabins,
and a cross section (to see internal heights).
If you don't find them on the Net, I can mail them to you directly.
Best Regards,
Stefan
Photo is posted in bolger2 group photos section.
Bill
Bill
On Apr 7, 2005 10:30 AM, Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:
>
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> This is the only hit I got off Yahoo with +"Bell's Puffer" and +Bolger.
>
> It was in MAIB, Issue 17, volume 11, page 26
>
> Ocean Passagemakers
> #634 Bell's Puffer 45' Ocean Pasagemaker 17 11 26
>
> Anyone got that issue?
>
> Bruce Hector
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A new hit with Google.
http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/trawlers-and-trawlering/1999-
November/016309.html
http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/trawlers-and-trawlering/1999-
November/016309.html
This is the only hit I got off Yahoo with +"Bell's Puffer" and +Bolger.
It was in MAIB, Issue 17, volume 11, page 26
Ocean Passagemakers
#634 Bell's Puffer 45' Ocean Pasagemaker 17 11 26
Anyone got that issue?
Bruce Hector
It was in MAIB, Issue 17, volume 11, page 26
Ocean Passagemakers
#634 Bell's Puffer 45' Ocean Pasagemaker 17 11 26
Anyone got that issue?
Bruce Hector
> While looking at a file or photo of the real "Bell's Puffer".Yes please, someone 'round here with a collection
> Anyone got a shot?
> Bruce Hector
of old MAIB's look up Vol# 17 No 11...TIA!
I just thought of another:
While looking at a file or photo of the real "Bell's Puffer".
Anyone got a shot?
Bruce Hector
Sober and stupid as ever on the other end of the mighty St. Lawrence.
Glad that I'm upstream of Peter and he's downstream of ....er .... me.
While looking at a file or photo of the real "Bell's Puffer".
Anyone got a shot?
Bruce Hector
Sober and stupid as ever on the other end of the mighty St. Lawrence.
Glad that I'm upstream of Peter and he's downstream of ....er .... me.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@h...>
wrote: "
drinking a can of beer at 60 feet while scuba diving on the Aloha, a
local wreck. Very interestin. As you took a gulp, the can made
a "TUNK TUNK" noise and crushed itself a little. When the can was
finished, it was flat as a pancake, and I didn't even have to bang it
on my forehead!
The of course there's:
Flying
Hiking
Table Tennis
Boatbuilding & moaning
Competitive eating
Checkers
Strip Chess
Chug-a-lug contests
Motorcycling
Gunnel Bobbing (possibly another unique Canadian activity. You stand
on the gunnels of a canoe and rhythemicly flex your kness which
magically propells the boat forward. Steering is by leaning. I
believe beer is a prerequisite for this one.
Not to mention private indoor, outdoor and below decks sports
involving another crewmember or two.....
Bruce Hector
Who doesn't own a construction helmet, but can set a can of beer on a
thwart or sole with the best of them.
Hoping to steal a day away from my training schedule to visit the
Lenihan boatshop next week.
wrote: "
>once,with remarkable success :
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
> wrote: "Well here is my short list of ones I've tried,at least
> bicyle ridingI apologise Peter, I wrote that in far to much haste. I remember
> sailing
> canoeing
> baseball
> football
> golf
> skiing
> ski-booting( you're a real Canadian if you know what that is:-))
> tobaganing,without a sled.....long story there!
> skating,without skates....longer story there!
> swimming,without a swim suit.....oh!oh!
drinking a can of beer at 60 feet while scuba diving on the Aloha, a
local wreck. Very interestin. As you took a gulp, the can made
a "TUNK TUNK" noise and crushed itself a little. When the can was
finished, it was flat as a pancake, and I didn't even have to bang it
on my forehead!
The of course there's:
Flying
Hiking
Table Tennis
Boatbuilding & moaning
Competitive eating
Checkers
Strip Chess
Chug-a-lug contests
Motorcycling
Gunnel Bobbing (possibly another unique Canadian activity. You stand
on the gunnels of a canoe and rhythemicly flex your kness which
magically propells the boat forward. Steering is by leaning. I
believe beer is a prerequisite for this one.
Not to mention private indoor, outdoor and below decks sports
involving another crewmember or two.....
Bruce Hector
Who doesn't own a construction helmet, but can set a can of beer on a
thwart or sole with the best of them.
Hoping to steal a day away from my training schedule to visit the
Lenihan boatshop next week.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
wrote:
"Bells Puffer" is certainly differenter then the Puffer I put in
that file,which if I recall right,Bolger refered to as a marina type
cruiser of sorts with houseboat/mobile home like features.I wouldn't
want to take Puffer across any ocean :-)
And who said I DIDN'T like rowing? I love it! As to "what other
sports can you do while drinkin' beer?" Well here is my short list
of ones I've tried,at least once,with remarkable success :
bicyle riding
sailing
canoeing
baseball
football
golf
skiing
ski-booting( you're a real Canadian if you know what that is:-))
tobaganing,without a sled.....long story there!
skating,without skates....longer story there!
swimming,without a swim suit.....oh!oh!
And that is just the short list! So don't go off makin' it all sound
like darts-n-rowing are the cats' ass of beer sports. The sky is the
limit or whenever the cops show up....whichever comes first!
Sincerely,
Peter,of the virgin constitution,Lenihan...awaiting the Spring-time
boatshop visit of one Big Bad Bruce to sample some recent Ports,some
early Ports and some late Ports all the while viewing the winter
production of his younger accolite...............
wrote:
>darts, what other sport can you do while
> Here's files of Bolger's Puffer, > What an outing. Other than
> drinking a beer? Even Peter Lenihan should like rowing.BBB,
"Bells Puffer" is certainly differenter then the Puffer I put in
that file,which if I recall right,Bolger refered to as a marina type
cruiser of sorts with houseboat/mobile home like features.I wouldn't
want to take Puffer across any ocean :-)
And who said I DIDN'T like rowing? I love it! As to "what other
sports can you do while drinkin' beer?" Well here is my short list
of ones I've tried,at least once,with remarkable success :
bicyle riding
sailing
canoeing
baseball
football
golf
skiing
ski-booting( you're a real Canadian if you know what that is:-))
tobaganing,without a sled.....long story there!
skating,without skates....longer story there!
swimming,without a swim suit.....oh!oh!
And that is just the short list! So don't go off makin' it all sound
like darts-n-rowing are the cats' ass of beer sports. The sky is the
limit or whenever the cops show up....whichever comes first!
Sincerely,
Peter,of the virgin constitution,Lenihan...awaiting the Spring-time
boatshop visit of one Big Bad Bruce to sample some recent Ports,some
early Ports and some late Ports all the while viewing the winter
production of his younger accolite...............
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Fountain"
<fountain.bruce@a...> wrote:
Things may be different in your part of the world but up here we are
allowed to put the beer down every once in a while :-)
I like the hat trick but fear that both I and Bruce Hector(the evil
influence in my otherwise virginal existance) would do serious
damage to our neck bones from the weight of a "2 four" each
balancing up top of our noggins'...........
Sincerely,
Peter,"the saintly one",Lenihan,workin' up a mighty fierce thirst
just thinkin' about it.................
<fountain.bruce@a...> wrote:
> I am having difficulty visualising a combination of the twoBruce,
> activities. How can you row with one hand? Or perhaps you have
> one of those hats with the can holsters and straws.
>
> Bruce Fountain
> Systems Engineer
> Union Switch & Signal
> Perth, Western Australia
Things may be different in your part of the world but up here we are
allowed to put the beer down every once in a while :-)
I like the hat trick but fear that both I and Bruce Hector(the evil
influence in my otherwise virginal existance) would do serious
damage to our neck bones from the weight of a "2 four" each
balancing up top of our noggins'...........
Sincerely,
Peter,"the saintly one",Lenihan,workin' up a mighty fierce thirst
just thinkin' about it.................
Bruce Hector wrote:
activities. How can you row with one hand? Or perhaps you have
one of those hats with the can holsters and straws.
Bruce Fountain
Systems Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
> What an outing. Other than darts, what other sport can you do whileI am having difficulty visualising a combination of the two
> drinking a beer? Even Peter Lenihan should like rowing.
activities. How can you row with one hand? Or perhaps you have
one of those hats with the can holsters and straws.
Bruce Fountain
Systems Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
Here's files of Bolger's Puffer, but I wouln't call it an ocean
crosser, except as deck cargo on a freighter.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
Is Bell's Puffer a different design?
Bruce Hector
http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/1000IslandFunRowers/
Rowed 7 miles today in my Michalak Sport Dory. 3.5 at lunch agaist the
wind and the same back with the wind after work.
With the wind is better.
What an outing. Other than darts, what other sport can you do while
drinking a beer? Even Peter Lenihan should like rowing.
crosser, except as deck cargo on a freighter.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
Is Bell's Puffer a different design?
Bruce Hector
http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/1000IslandFunRowers/
Rowed 7 miles today in my Michalak Sport Dory. 3.5 at lunch agaist the
wind and the same back with the wind after work.
With the wind is better.
What an outing. Other than darts, what other sport can you do while
drinking a beer? Even Peter Lenihan should like rowing.
I don't ever remember seeing this design and I don't have the MAIB
V# 17 No 11 that it was in. Does anybody have a picture of this
boat, Bell's Puffer a 45 foot ocean crossing voyager. I'm still
looking for my big design to build. Mr. Bolger told me to build the
Loose Moose 2 or the version that was called Le Cabotin but I want a
small diesel for power and not an outboard since where I will be
going to and coming from demands better fuel consumption. The trip
down is all downwind but you have to motor sail most of the way
back. It would be nice to see this 45' vessel. Another reason is
that I don't want my wife to be able to hear the water slapping the
bow of the Loose Moose 2 to give her an excuse to take the launch to
town shopping rather than hearing any more waves. I can only
imagine inside the cavernous hull of this boat could elevate that
drumming sound since others have complained about it. Of course a
navigator version with the steel plate, a small diesel and a pointy
bow with a chain locker and bow sprit for a jib and maybe a mizzen
mast like the little brother would make it more acceptable. I would
not presume to know more than PCB and do that. I looked through the
design numbers and I saw Bell's Puffer and it may be more of what I
want.
Thank You,
John
V# 17 No 11 that it was in. Does anybody have a picture of this
boat, Bell's Puffer a 45 foot ocean crossing voyager. I'm still
looking for my big design to build. Mr. Bolger told me to build the
Loose Moose 2 or the version that was called Le Cabotin but I want a
small diesel for power and not an outboard since where I will be
going to and coming from demands better fuel consumption. The trip
down is all downwind but you have to motor sail most of the way
back. It would be nice to see this 45' vessel. Another reason is
that I don't want my wife to be able to hear the water slapping the
bow of the Loose Moose 2 to give her an excuse to take the launch to
town shopping rather than hearing any more waves. I can only
imagine inside the cavernous hull of this boat could elevate that
drumming sound since others have complained about it. Of course a
navigator version with the steel plate, a small diesel and a pointy
bow with a chain locker and bow sprit for a jib and maybe a mizzen
mast like the little brother would make it more acceptable. I would
not presume to know more than PCB and do that. I looked through the
design numbers and I saw Bell's Puffer and it may be more of what I
want.
Thank You,
John
No, bells puffer is a bull nose design. if I get a chance this weekend I will scan and post
the article on my web page.
Regards
Phil
the article on my web page.
Regards
Phil
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > I have only seen vague
> > references to it elseware.
> >
> > Steve T.
>
> I know very little about 'Bell's Puffer'; please tell us all you know.
>
> A few bucks sent to Bob Hicks would probably buy you a
> copy of that back issue of MAIB.
>
> I am guessing it is a sharpie. And, probably with more
> similarities than differences with Antispray 48, considering
> they were designed in the same decade.
> I have only seen vagueI know very little about 'Bell's Puffer'; please tell us all you know.
> references to it elseware.
>
> Steve T.
A few bucks sent to Bob Hicks would probably buy you a
copy of that back issue of MAIB.
I am guessing it is a sharpie. And, probably with more
similarities than differences with Antispray 48, considering
they were designed in the same decade.
I am interested in it because I have never seen it and I am
interested in passage making designs. I have only seen vague
references to it elseware.
Steve T.
interested in passage making designs. I have only seen vague
references to it elseware.
Steve T.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Phil S." <newbarndesign@y...> wrote:
>
> I have a copy of the article, but my question is why would you want
it? It is about the worst
> design I have ever seen. It has an extremely complicated hull form,
it is designed around
> an engine that has been out of production for years, it looks like
it would be violently
> active in a seaway, and it is butt ugly. Just my opinion but you
would be farther ahead with
> either Tahiti or a Diesel Duck.
> Regards
> Phil
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Steve T." <stevet44@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody have a scan of Bolgers "Bell's Puffer"? It's design
> > #634 and is a 45' pasagemaker. It was in MAIB volume 17, issue
11.
> >
> > This design is not to be confused with the Puffer Mobile
Houseboat
> > design.
> >
> > Steve T.
I have a copy of the article, but my question is why would you want it? It is about the worst
design I have ever seen. It has an extremely complicated hull form, it is designed around
an engine that has been out of production for years, it looks like it would be violently
active in a seaway, and it is butt ugly. Just my opinion but you would be farther ahead with
either Tahiti or a Diesel Duck.
Regards
Phil
design I have ever seen. It has an extremely complicated hull form, it is designed around
an engine that has been out of production for years, it looks like it would be violently
active in a seaway, and it is butt ugly. Just my opinion but you would be farther ahead with
either Tahiti or a Diesel Duck.
Regards
Phil
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Steve T." <stevet44@y...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody have a scan of Bolgers "Bell's Puffer"? It's design
> #634 and is a 45' pasagemaker. It was in MAIB volume 17, issue 11.
>
> This design is not to be confused with the Puffer Mobile Houseboat
> design.
>
> Steve T.
Does anybody have a scan of Bolgers "Bell's Puffer"? It's design
#634 and is a 45' pasagemaker. It was in MAIB volume 17, issue 11.
This design is not to be confused with the Puffer Mobile Houseboat
design.
Steve T.
#634 and is a 45' pasagemaker. It was in MAIB volume 17, issue 11.
This design is not to be confused with the Puffer Mobile Houseboat
design.
Steve T.